And it is still alive and well.
I'd expect to see some updates in this space soon too:
https://www.sinenomine.net/products-and-services/products-and-tools/mono
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:02 AM Tim Hare
wrote:
> The Mono project ran .NET stuff on Linux, and I have seen it running on
> z/Linux
>
>
The Mono project ran .NET stuff on Linux, and I have seen it running on z/Linux
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W dniu 13.10.2020 o 19:28, Salva Carrasco pisze:
Well not 16, but we run 10-12 trans per real client every day.
Well, my knowledge from real life: 40-50 CICS transaction per customer
every day. Note: every customer, including those who haven't been
serviced for years or use services once a mo
Well not 16, but we run 10-12 trans per real client every day.
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On 2020-10-12 10:04 PM, Joe Monk wrote:
"For example, show me a customer that is running Node.js in
production on z/OS?"
How long has it been since youve been to SHARE?
Pittsburgh. I can't remember any customer presentations about deploying
Node is production. Are you aware of any since you o
W dniu 12.10.2020 o 17:23, Ed Jaffe pisze:
On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote:
I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business
today on other than Microsoft operating systems or Linux on x86 and
ARM hardware.
Microsoft has an IBM mainframe running z/OS. One of their
IBM runs Azure for MS
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> On Oct 12, 2020, at 10:23, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>
> On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote:
>>
>> I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business
>> today on other than Micros
On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote:
I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business
today on other than Microsoft operating systems or Linux on x86 and
ARM hardware.
Microsoft has an IBM mainframe running z/OS. One of their guys comes to
SHARE. I saw him a while bac
I agree with Joe.
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On Monday, October 12, 2020, 10:48 AM, Joe Monk wrote:
Mainframes have been running node.js for years. In fact you can run
Linux/390 and z/OS side by side on the same box with LPARs...
"A Forrester survey released in 2019 found that 56% of re
You act like IBM marketing material isn’t true. Prove to me it’s false that 90%
of credit card transactions don’t process on the mainframe. I’ve provided proof
it is. You’ve provided nothing to disprove it. It’s not hard to come to the 90%
conclusion since almost all banks worldwide run on the m
12, 2020 6:55 AM
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>The dirty little secret is that MSOFT has a mainframe in the back office!
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The dirty little secret is that MSOFT has a mainframe in the back office!
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Before pontificating on "stupid" patents, PLEASE study the general field
just a tiny bit! These are defensive patents and the unfortunate patent
systems (mostly led by the U.S.) make these very necessary. The only
stupidity involved (other than the whole patent process) is not
understanding th
"For example, show me a customer that is running Node.js in
production on z/OS?"
How long has it been since youve been to SHARE?
Joe
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 7:36 AM David Crayford wrote:
> On 2020-10-12 8:21 PM, Joe Monk wrote:
>
> > IBM has also aggressively added support for newer technologi
Classification: HCL Internal
The dirty little secret is that MSOFT has a mainframe in the back office!
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 10:44:09 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote:
>Anyone know any more about this?
>
>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ibm-divestiture/ibm-to-break-up-109-year-old-company-to-focus-on-cloud-growth-idUSKBN26T1TZ
>
>https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ibm-to-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-grow
On 2020-10-12 8:21 PM, Joe Monk wrote:
IBM has also aggressively added support for newer technologies on System z.
"All modern stuff runs well on the big box, from Linux to Kubernetes,"
Mueller said. "So cloud makes sense when you need infinite compute for
AI/ML or storage for Big Data. Then the
Mainframes have been running node.js for years. In fact you can run
Linux/390 and z/OS side by side on the same box with LPARs...
"A Forrester survey released in 2019 found that 56% of respondents planned
to increase their mainframe usage over the next two years, while 36%
planned on the same amou
I never post BS. I interviewed at PayPal quite a few years ago at their
Columbus, Ohio location. Up in Dublin a northern suburb. They had a mainframe
then. Apple & Amazon uses a credit card processor which uses a mainframe.
PayPal also tries to push a credit card on you which is processed by Syn
On 2020-10-12 6:41 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Coming from the guy who said he does PayPal, Amazon, & Apple transactions and
doesn’t know those transactions are mainframe processed through a bank.
So what? The payments system is not running on a mainframe. Nor is the
mobile payments back-end and
Coming from the guy who said he does PayPal, Amazon, & Apple transactions and
doesn’t know those transactions are mainframe processed through a bank.
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On Monday, October 12, 2020, 5:53 AM, David Crayford
wrote:
On 2020-10-12 12:19 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Am
Yes, semantics! Here's another cracker
https://www.ft.com/content/6f02ce76-e1d6-45d8-b27a-0491281c2507!
On 2020-10-12 5:55 PM, R.S. wrote:
David,
You wrote:
"IBM patents are mostly pathetic."
I understand it as (almost all) IBM patents are pathetic. I disagree
with such generalisation.
No
David,
You wrote:
"IBM patents are mostly pathetic."
I understand it as (almost all) IBM patents are pathetic. I disagree
with such generalisation.
Now you write:
"It was me that said they were pathetic"
Which can be understood as SOME patents are pathetic. Note: not
"mostly", and not "IBM
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Is this kind of behavior what you are describing as "defensive"?
https://www.forbes.com/asap/2
du/~smetz3
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Mike Hochee
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:09 PM
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Charles, you must've found my creds! Please dispose of them in a secure
manner. :-)
On
Behalf Of Mike Hochee
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:09 PM
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Charles, you must've found my creds! Please dispose of them in a secure
manner. :-)
You make a good point. And to muddy things further, the AWS user communi
metz3
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Wayne Bickerdike
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Unfortunately, the U.S. patent system creates warped incentives for
emerging sof
Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Crayford
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:39 PM
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It was me that said they were pathetic a
om successfully patenting it.
--
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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David Crayford
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:39 PM
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Having been at a company IBM acquired, we were told that if we could come up
with a novel way to throw paper into a trash can
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> On Oct 11, 2020, at 10:39 PM, David Crayford wrote:
>
> It was me that sai
On 2020-10-12 12:19 AM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Amazon, PayPal, & Apple either have a mainframe (PayPal did when I interviewed
there)
In what parallel universe did Amazon, Paypal run a mainframe? lala-land?
If I google "paypal technology stack" and I don't see a mainframe!
Mainframes are for run
It was me that said they were pathetic and I stand by that remark.
There's a website that has a "stupid patent of the month" which is
dominated by IBM.
Here's a good one!
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/stupid-patent-month-ibm-patents-out-office-email
A lot of my colleagues are ex IBMe
pensive court battle to invalidate it?
>
>
> --
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> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf
> of Wayne Bickerdike
> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 6:14 PM
&g
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Charles, you must've found my creds! Please dispose of them in a secure
manner. :-)
You make a good point. And to muddy things further, the AWS user community
seems to use the
e-board.
Mike
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I do not have an accurate big picture nor a decent set of data to work with,
but here are a few google hits that do not inspire confidence, just
anecdotal
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[Default] On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:40:07 -0700 (PDT), in bit.listserv.ibm-main
computer chyck wrote:
>> snip much
>
>Cloud computing is alot like teenage sex - everybody is doin
, October 11, 2020 6:14 PM
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IBM have a patent on the SORTL instruction. I guess they are entitled to do
that but IMHO what it does is hardly new. How it does it, perhaps.
I wish I had patented run flat tires. It was my idea many
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[Default] On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:40:07 -0700 (PDT), in
bit.listserv.ibm-main computer chyck wrote:
>> snip much
>
>Cloud computing is alot like teenage sex - everybody is doing it (or wants to
>do it) but nobody has a flippin' clue how to do it correctly!!!
What I fear is that Amazon and Micros
ing-aws-microsoft-azure-and-google-cloud-revenue-growth-is-a-good-thing%2Famp%2F
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>>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
>>> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@list
Discussion List on behalf of
R.S.
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 12:26 PM
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Patents are not pathetic. Other companies still make new patents.
Including those like Microsoft and Google.
Patents are still valid and important even if
>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
>>> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
>>> building real enterprise-level
g/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
>>> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don
True. Thanks.
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On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 12:36 PM, R.S.
wrote:
Bill,
I know that. I just complemented your answer.
BTW: I also wasn't the person wrote about IBM was not forced out.
However I believe you also knew that.
Fortunately listserv is written, so ev
Bill,
I know that. I just complemented your answer.
BTW: I also wasn't the person wrote about IBM was not forced out.
However I believe you also knew that.
Fortunately listserv is written, so everyone may read the history and
re-read if needed.
Regards
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
on the way to commoditization.
>>>> Because it’s easy to replicate. In fact, AZURE growth is beginning to
>>> slow.
>>>> Even with the government contract.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/31/probeat-slowing-aws-microsoft
du> wrote:
Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
Peter
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owth-is-a-good-thing/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
>>> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>>
>&
z/OS? A very bold move
> by someone only six months on the job.
>
> My nickel's worth.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of David Crayford
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t; https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/31/probeat-slowing-aws-microsoft-azure-and-google-cloud-revenue-growth-is-a-good-thing/amp/
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x233
nths on the job.
>
> My nickel's worth.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of David Crayford
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 11:31 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subjec
hing Arvind Krishna thinks about z/OS? A very bold move
> by someone only six months on the job.
>
> My nickel's worth.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of David Crayfo
ix months on the job.
>
> My nickel's worth.
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of David Crayford
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 11:31 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
You are right, but it wasn't just failed implementation. It was blocker
from legal point of view - both parties wanted to do the business, but
government law demanded this liability. So, no other attempt of any
other company (in this business) would be possible.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Pola
owth-is-a-good-thing/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Friday, October 9, 2020, 6:38 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
>>> 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>>
>&
IBM does indeed process 90% of credit card transactions. Maybe not at POS, but
at the backend. (POS- point of sale)
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On Sunday, October 11, 2020, 11:28 AM, zMan wrote:
A fair question. That's based on working with all of the top-ten
processors, most or all of w
A fair question. That's based on working with all of the top-ten
processors, most or all of whom still use NonStop.
Compaq bought Tandem, HP bought Compaq, then when HP split into HP and HPE,
the NonStop business went to HPE.
Yes, NonStop is way down from its peak. Credit card processing seems to
W dniu 09.10.2020 o 04:25, zMan pisze:
Nope, IBM doesn't process 90% of credit card transactions. Most processors
are on distributed, with a lot of HPE NonStop in the mix, but also other
platforms.
Can you provide any source of this statement?
From my limited knowledge it seems NonStop is decli
So market cap is now the determining factor for the best companies? Here’s the
1980 list of market cap leaders. Had IBM not been forced out of the PC market,
I’d bet IBM would still be at or near the top, and MSFT wouldn’t be.
1980:
1. IBM
2. AT&T
3. Exxon
4. Standard Oil of Indiana
5. Schlumber
ve whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
Peter
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ou that about AWS. There are real companies
building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
Peter
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
Of Bill Johnson
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BM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
Of Bill Johnson
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2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds.
IBM is enterprise.
On Friday, October 9, 2
ld you that about AWS. There are real companies
>> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
>> Of Bill Johnson
>> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2
PM
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You're conflating enterprise with traditional mainframe customers such as the
finance industry. Apple, BP, Shell, Coca-Cola etc all use AWS, are they not
ente
gt; > Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
> > building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> > Of Bil
Original Message-
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>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:38 PM
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>> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>>
>> Global services
, Peter x23353 <
> > 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
> > building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Or
On 2020-10-11 11:18 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
At my exit interview, my manager asked why I was leaving. I told him I was
going to work for a start-up developing applications for Intel 8080 and Z80
microcomputers. He said, "you can work out a months notice because I don't
ever see IBM getting in
el's worth.
Mike
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opies."
Charles
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Hi Charles,
GBG was general busi
day, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds.
IBM is enterprise.
On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan wrote:
Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:38 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>> Subjec
; -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:38 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>
> Global services was
erv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
> > building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
TMA
Too many acronyms.
What is GBG? What is DP?
I know RBG.
Charles
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Of Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:38 PM
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Subject: Re: IBM splitting
EDU] On
> Behalf Of Phil Smith III
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:09 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>
> Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>
> >Perhaps IBM are prepping to sell off Global Services.
>
>
>
> Isn't th
l applications on AWS today.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>
> 2 com
e-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>
> 2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds.
> IBM
x27;t believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53
...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> Don't believe whoever told you that about AWS. There are real companies
> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of B
FWIW that is how I took it.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Phil Smith III
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
Wayne Bickerdike
Evidently Arvind Krishna thinks the IT Services Division (or whatever it
is) is worthless, as he didn't attempt to sell it, he's just throwing it
out. Apparently, whatever profits it contributes aren't worth the
distraction to his "maniacal" focus on "hybrid cloud". As the divestment
(calling it
Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>Perhaps IBM are prepping to sell off Global Services.
Isn't that what this is? That's what I took "IT infrastructure services unit"
to mean. Am I confused (always possible, probably likely)?
...phsiii
-
WS. There are real companies
> building real enterprise-level applications on AWS today.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re:
IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf
> of zMan
> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:25 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
>
> Nope, IBM doesn't process 90% of credit card transactions. Most processors
> are on distribut
Perhaps IBM are prepping to sell off Global Services.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM David Cole wrote:
> So what happened? Did IBM buy Red Hat and then Red Hat swallowed up IBM?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10/8/2020 04:18 PM, Knutson, Samuel wrote:
> >You can read the press release, view the charts and lis
ame Discussion List On Behalf Of
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Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 7:53 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. IBM is
enterprise.
On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan
7:53 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBM splitting into two companies
2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. IBM is
enterprise.
On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan wrote:
Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read th
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2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. IBM is
enterprise.
On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan wrote:
Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read the report. It's at
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Just more dragging Mainframe DOWN to the lower levels of OS's
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As usual, The Register is fairly informative:
https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/08/ibm_splits_off_services_division/
As I read this, if you're with IBM Outsourcing you job is headed off to NewCo;
for the rest of us nothing much changes.
Unfortunately I don't see much hope of an increased or
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Why Do Mainframes Matter Today?
>From SHARE’s perspective, mainframes are an indispensable asset for businesses
>of all kinds. Here are just a few stats to back it up:
- Mainframes host critical core IT for: 92 of the world’s top 100 banks; 23
of the 25 top airlines; 10 of the world’s top
2 completely different markets. AZURE & AWS are consumer market clouds. IBM is
enterprise.
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On Friday, October 9, 2020, 5:28 AM, zMan wrote:
Actually, Bill, it's pretty clear that you didn't read the report. It's at
https://kinsta.com/blog/cloud-market-share/ a
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> CLOUD by any other name
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I understand fully who the top vendors are. IBM doesn’t even try to get people
to store their photos, music, & emails in the cloud. Comparing AWS & AZURE to
IBM’s cloud is comparing apples to oranges. Or comparing PC’s to the Mainframe.
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So what happened? Did IBM buy Red Hat and then Red Hat swallowed up IBM?
At 10/8/2020 04:18 PM, Knutson, Samuel wrote:
You can read the press release, view the charts and listen the
webcast where this was rolled out to Wall Street analysts this morning here
https://www.ibm.com/investor/ev
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