Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

On 4 October 2016 at 16:15, Steve Thompson wrote: > Yes. So that would mean that I got, xx40. I'm not sure what the above means, but I agree with Charles that you are way overcomplicating this. CALLDISP and SVC 50?. Could you not tell us the actual content of your ECB, as

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > 'Personal use' z/OS has been a recurring theme at SHARE for some time. IBM > is loath to attach words like 'free' or 'personal' to anything in the > mainframe world. What's been made available for individuals is

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

W dniu 2016-10-04 o 21:45, Tom Brennan pisze: R.S. wrote: IMHO IBM should be interested in new customers. And should care about them. However even old customers could gain some benefits from having "bulit in driving system" for the installation. Or for DR. A couple of months ago I worked

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

John McKown wrote: ​IMO, FWIW (other acronyms​ omitted) I would love something like z/PDT for a home user. The "problem" that I perceive that IBM has with such a thing can be summed up as "somebody could use that to make money developing software and I won't get a fair cut." That's why I

Re: Would HiperDispatch likely delay heavy multitasking job?

Peter, your second bullet isn't really correct. First, as described in my previous post, nodes will be able to help each other. Then, when deemed required, TCBs may also be broken out of their mother address space and assigned a different affinity node. Lastly, the process is independent of

Re: REXX Compare Anomaly

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:20:09 +, Ward, Mike S wrote: >The = compares numerically while the == is a strict compare of equality or >inequality of the two strings. > Yup. In one of these fora lately a user complained that he found "==" offensive and avoided its use because it's reminiscent of

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

IMO, FWIW IBM is *very* supportive of those of us who make money developing software. The pricing at the Dallas Innovation Center cannot be a huge profit center for IBM. IBM is about to host a software vendor meeting (how much can I say without violating the NDA?) that has to cost IBM a heck a

Re: ISVs, SMP/E, ... (was: Installation Improvements ...)

This is my main difficulty with CA-MSM. It is great for doing the download from CA and the SMP/E tp the point of install and tailoring. But, then, you need to do it CA's way, not our way. I concede that our way may not be the best way, but we have a lot invested in some parts of it. My other

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

R.S. wrote: IMHO IBM should be interested in new customers. And should care about them. However even old customers could gain some benefits from having "bulit in driving system" for the installation. Or for DR. A couple of months ago I worked with a guy bringing up z/OS at a new site using

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

On 10/4/2016 12:09 PM, Charles Mills wrote: That said, why is IBM so antagonistic to z/OS running on non-Z hardware? https://www.ibm.com/partnerworld/wps/servlet/ContentHandler/pw_com_zpdt -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

Touche, sort of: The zPDT can enable a virtual System z architecture environment that allows select mainframe operating systems, middleware and software to run unaltered on x86 processor-compatible platforms (such as Lenovo W Series or IBM System x™ 3500 or 3650 server, or systems otherwise

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

W dniu 2016-10-04 o 18:58, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: I don't quite understand the desire for IPL from a removable medium. I get it if you're IPLing z/OS literally for the first time. That has happened to me once in 20 years when we built a new data center. The last new data center was a decade

Re: REXX Compare Anomaly

The = compares numerically while the == is a strict compare of equality or inequality of the two strings. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 12:30 PM To:

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

Yes. So that would mean that I got, xx40. On 10/04/2016 02:34 PM, Charles Mills wrote: the ECB shows a S400 You know the post bit is in the first byte and the RC in the right-hand bits? So a posted ECB with RC=0 would be 4000? RC=8 would be 4008 Charles

Re: ISVs, SMP/E, ... (was: Installation Improvements ...)

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:15:33 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >- we have no one who is a drop-dead SMP/E packaging design expert. >- when we go to people who are SMP/E packaging experts they say "your IEBCOPY >install is a work of art! It is so simple! Why would you want to change? SMP/E >is way

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

>>> On 10/4/2016 at 12:03 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: > I know experienced folks want to know exactly what is happening to their > system during the install. Yes, I do, or at least be able to figure it out fairly easily after the fact. > I do too, but that has to

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

On 10/04/2016 08:13 AM, Peter Relson wrote: And what the ECB contains is puzzling to me. Why would my WAIT get posted, if the task in question had not finished? It would not. It could not, unless you posted it yourself. If you're saying that you looked at the ECB after the POST and at that

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Charles, I hear where you're coming from, but this sword cuts both ways. If I have an install on the mainframe go south, I have the diagnostic tools to figure out what went wrong and correct the problem. Comparing that to my Windows install on my home PC, it says I have 75 critical updates

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

I don't quite understand the desire for IPL from a removable medium. I get it if you're IPLing z/OS literally for the first time. That has happened to me once in 20 years when we built a new data center. The last new data center was a decade before that. If you have a running system in place,

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Charles Mills wrote: And yes, you can say there would not be a labor crisis if mainframe shops were willing to pay and train more, but we live in the world we live in, not the world we would like to live in. Organized training is good, but it's just a drop in the bucket compared to someone

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

I could not agree more. But they don't ask me. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installation Improvements (was Re:

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

> the ECB shows a S400 You know the post bit is in the first byte and the RC in the right-hand bits? So a posted ECB with RC=0 would be 4000? RC=8 would be 4008 Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

'Personal use' z/OS has been a recurring theme at SHARE for some time. IBM is loath to attach words like 'free' or 'personal' to anything in the mainframe world. What's been made available for individuals is still too costly for hobby/tinkerer use, especially compare with other platforms. ;-(

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

Ok, you decide to make your own hardware to run IBM's software. How can IBM know that your hardware is working correctly and they aren't having to diagnose your hardware system rather than just diagnosing their software, if you get what I mean? How long will it take you to develop

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

That's easy! > How can IBM know that your hardware is working correctly They can't. You get zero support (other than Google, which is pretty good!) with your developer license. > So, why does IBM want to give you all the specs to be able to do this? They don't. But Hercules already exists

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

And once again, the pricing is out of an average hobbyist's buying league. A one-time charge (not annual!) of $3,750 might not be too bad for a really dedicated hobbyist or retiree, but $3,750 a year for one virtual CPU? $11,750 (a year!) for only 3 CPU's, and they are throttled so as not to

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

R.S. wrote: COD can be ordered via ShopzSeries. There is special option for that. Delivery options are tape or DVD, no electronic delivery. AFAIK every z/OS user can order it at any time. IMHO the worst thing in COD is IODF. COD do expect some device numbers to be present, which are not

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

Wow. Something is odd. S400 = Explanation: Execute channel program (EXCP) processing found an error while processing an I/O request. One of the following is true ... Possible, but not real likely. So after IDCAMS runs to RC=0 your ECB contains 4040? I would check for storage overlays,

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

Thoughts - Charles is right on. And: > How can IBM know that your hardware is working correctly and they aren't > having to diagnose your hardware system rather than just diagnosing their > software, if you get what I mean? The license would be 'as is' - no support. And it'd be easier to

P500

Guys,Anyone has a old VMSP rel 5/6 Express running with a complete set of compilers?My original P500 medias doesn't read anymore.Thank youDan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

Actually it is available now. Not exactly as ou described, but even more convenient. Instead of DVD yu can use a directory on your PC. Note, it's directory, not ISO file, but any free/shareware tool can unpack the ISO. All you have to do is to start ftp server. So, i.e. for z/VM installation

UK GSE Mainframe Skills & Learning Group

Sent on behalf of the UK GSE Mainframe Skills & Learning Group to both IBM-MAIN and IBMTCP-L so apologies if you see this twice. Please address any replies direct to Ian Skellern. The GSE Mainframe Skills & Learning Group are currently working very closely with the University of Bedfordshire

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

R.S. wrote: The notable exception is z/OS COD - Customized Offering Driver. While it can be IPL-ed from both DVD and ftp, the next activity is to restore DVD content to CKD disk and the source has to be DVD. Actually, you can *install* the COD from DVD, but z/OS itself is IPLed from CKD

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

It sounds like you are over-complicating things my friend. - Clear the high-order byte of the ECB to 0. - Issue the ATTACHX with the ECB. - Check for non-zero return code. Note that many errors (like S806) come back on the ECB, not from the ATTACHX. - Do whatever other work the main task wants

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

GAH! I was thinking "Standalone DFSMSdss" any my fingers typed "ICKDSF" instead. Depending on when you get the COD, you will IPL one or both from DVD based on the instructions. But only DSS is necessary now. John McKown wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM, R.S.

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

W dniu 2016-10-04 o 14:35, John Eells pisze: R.S. wrote: The notable exception is z/OS COD - Customized Offering Driver. While it can be IPL-ed from both DVD and ftp, the next activity is to restore DVD content to CKD disk and the source has to be DVD. Actually, you can *install* the COD

Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

The links appear to be working now. I hope that only minimal reading between the lines is needed to make it clear where we're going with product installation on the z/OS platform. It's been quite a journey to get this far, and we've had the help of dozens of other software vendors. We

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:45 AM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 2016-10-04 o 14:35, John Eells pisze: > >> R.S. wrote: >> >> >>> The notable exception is z/OS COD - Customized Offering Driver. While it >>> can be IPL-ed from both DVD and ftp, the next activity is to restore

Re: z/OS bookshelves in weird order in KC

Roger Bolan wrote: >I think the best way to use IBM Knowledge Center is to forget about books and >bookshelves when looking for information. Just search for the specific terms >or keywords or phrases (in quotes) that relate to the information you want. >Once you have found the appropriate

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

>And what the ECB contains is puzzling to me. Why would my WAIT >get posted, if the task in question had not finished? It would not. It could not, unless you posted it yourself. If you're saying that you looked at the ECB after the POST and at that time it contains an RB address then either the

About BMC Subzero

Hi listers Is there any feedback about new BMC Subzero software that is used to reduce MLC cost? Kind regards Kostas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

W dniu 2016-10-04 o 12:49, John McKown pisze: On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:11 AM, R.S. wrote: Actually it is available now. Not exactly as ou described, but even more convenient. Instead of DVD yu can use a directory on your PC. Note, it's directory, not ISO file,

Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken

I hope they get this fixed soon! The webpage alludes to DB2 V12, CICS TS 5.3 and a preview of z/OS 2.2 enhancements: IBM DB2 12 for z/OS expands the value offered to your business by IBM 's industry-leading mainframe data

AW: Re: z/OS bookshelves in weird order in KC

>I think the best way to use IBM Knowledge Center is to forget about books and bookshelves when looking for information. Just search for the specific terms or keywords or phrases (in quotes) that relate to the information you want. Once you have found the appropriate "hit" in the search

Re: UK GSE Mainframe Skills & Learning Group

The last time I had any involvement with degree courses they tended to be more academic in nature than real world business applications. That caused me to create a learning program that trained the usage of programming languages we used in the commercial area as well as usage of method not

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:11 AM, R.S. wrote: > Actually it is available now. > Not exactly as ou described, but even more convenient. > Instead of DVD yu can use a directory on your PC. Note, it's directory, > not ISO file, but any free/shareware tool can unpack

EMC VMAX zero days found

Not necessarily IBM specific, but probably of interest to some. http://www.cio.com/article/3126816/dell-emc-patches-critical-flaws-in-vmax-enterprise-storage-systems.html http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/10/security-company-finds-five-zero-day-flaws-in-emc-management-console/

Re: RFE 73512 - "Better use of ISPF screen names in SDSF"

I've PM'ed Robert for a copy of his updates to this, but haven't heard back yet. I am ashamed to admit that I wasn't already using Dougs SDSF highlighting modification. It sounds very cool, so I tried installing the last copy that I could find on archive.org, but on z/OS 2.1 I'm getting abend

Re: Why not an IBM personal use z/OS license? (Was "Installation Improvements (was ...")

Still pricey for the hobbyist or small time dabbler. And more costly to test/fix bugs that only manifest if multiprocessor :) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 1:38 PM >

Re: REXX Compare Anomaly

NOPWAD Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:20:09 +, Ward, Mike S wrote: The = compares numerically while the == is a strict compare of equality or inequality of the two strings. Yup. In one of these fora lately a user complained that he found "==" offensive and

FTP_SESSION_ERROR using EZAFTPKS

I am getting a x'0A' or 10 in the FCAI_CEC field of the FCAI map field The documentation for Client Error code says this is a sockets error This return code is coming on the User Subcommand Thing I have a batch job with the same parameters that is working fine So the batch job has the

Re: REXX Compare Anomaly

aka NAPWAD ... CM Poncelet wrote: NOPWAD Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:20:09 +, Ward, Mike S wrote: The = compares numerically while the == is a strict compare of equality or inequality of the two strings. Yup. In one of these fora lately a user complained

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

John, Thanks for the heads up that the links are now up. While I may not be able to get to San Jose, I will look forward to your session handouts! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Coming soon to a mainframe near you: Software installation becomes next-->next-->next-->install. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:09 AM To:

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 08:06:15 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >Which leads to another weird idea. A z/OS subsystem which can use the FTP >API to log on to an FTP server, retrieve a file and present the individual >records to the program as if they had been read from a standard sequential >data set. But

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Dave, I would hope that you are applying the SECINT PTFs more frequently than twice a year! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Yea, I've been watching the software installation feature of z/OSMF grow. I am not yet a believer, honestly, for the same reasons I am not a believer in CA's MSM either.In the grand scheme of things, the actual act of installing software and/or maintenance is pretty miniscule compared to

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

> On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > > Yea, I've been watching the software installation feature of z/OSMF grow. I > am not yet a believer, honestly, for the same reasons I am not a believer in > CA's MSM either.In the grand scheme of things, the

Re: Question About ATTACHX and ECB

Sorry, not allowed. But it was pretty simple. The SVC50 (someone complained about it being complicated) is an OLD trick to put breadcrumbs in the CPU trace table. It does clear R15 to zero. But it shows you 0 & 1 contents. It is coded just like this: SVC 50 You don't have to set any

SQA parameter

I have read in the Init and Tuning that if it can't get the storage in SQA it will get it in CSA. So why care if SQA is too small (as long as CSA can handle it? How does one calculate the correct SQA/CSA sizes? What values do you set in your shop and why? Thanks for your help.

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Pommier, Rex wrote: > Charles, > > I hear where you're coming from, but this sword cuts both ways. If I have > an install on the mainframe go south, I have the diagnostic tools to figure > out what went wrong and correct the problem.

ISVs, SMP/E, ... (was: Installation Improvements ...)

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 09:08:33 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >*Whoa*! Don't panic. This DOES NOT signal that IBM will move everything >out of SMP/E management. There are no plans to change the packaging for >products that really need SMP/E or something just like it. But, Software >Management now

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

> I'd like to see the *same* installation method for *all* installs I think that was the design goal for SMP/E. The problem is that when you have one product that solves every possible problem it ends up horribly complex. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

Pommier, Rex wrote: Coming soon to a mainframe near you: Software installation becomes next-->next-->next-->install. :-) Oh I hope so! As mainframers retire I've seen them get replaced with folks who tend to struggle for weeks (literally) with things we would call simple (i.e.

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

As part of the group that contributed to this, let me say that you can sigh at "click on setup.exe" but the fact is that the mainframe is facing a labor crisis. If I were the CEO of a software vendor, what would I tell my shareholders when they asked "what are you going to sell when there is no

Re: ISVs, SMP/E, ... (was: Installation Improvements ...)

I of course do not speak for any software vendor -- not even really the one I work for, much less IBM -- but my impression is that SMP/E will remain the main vehicle for much IBM and big software vendor software. Note what John says: "SMP/E agnostic," NOT "replaces SMP/E." Speaking of my ISV

Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken)

It depends. If it requires an IPL, no. We IPL our production systems 2 times per year, other environments(TECH, DEV as needed). When we do maintenance, I download those ++ASSIGNS, and pull in all that will apply. The only time we've installed an out of cycle SECINT PTF was when the

Re: Weird idea? IPL LPAR from DVD ISO image on HMC?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:35 AM, John Eells wrote: > R.S. wrote: > >> >> The notable exception is z/OS COD - Customized Offering Driver. While it >> can be IPL-ed from both DVD and ftp, the next activity is to restore DVD >> content to CKD disk and the source has to be DVD. > >