Yes, you need to have current maintenance on your old 2.1 system, but your
ability to fall back based on what you have stated in your response makes it so
that your fallback (if necessary) will not be an issue for you. Depending on
your product mix, I think that SAG might have a simple work
> What you describe as being able to run code in any
> address space sounds more like scheduling an SRB.
SRB is one method to execute authorized code in any address space but surely
you must be familiar with others such as SVC, PC and IEFSSREQ. Or are you
suggesting that getmain and storage
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 3:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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Swift is even smarter. It seems like even a newline doesn't absolutely
indicate the end of a statement, as long as the compiler can infer that a
statement absolutely has not completed. You can (but I don't recommend it)
even do something like this:
let
a
=
1
print (
a
)
Gil,
I agree with you on Rexx, writing it since it first came out on VM.
Some of the other languages are a bit funky.
Scott
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:04 PM Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:33:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:33:56 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. It's one of the things that I
>don't like about REXX.
>
>ObHamlet "And make us rather bear those semicolons we have, then fly to
>continuation conventions that we know not of"
>
( C 'then'
Thank you, David.
Very good information for Dana. And "NEWFUNC" was the parm I couldn't recall
off the top of my head. :-)
Andy
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Fwiw,
For client authentication we ask our clients to send us a Certificate
Signing Request for the keypair they want to use, and we sign them using
our internal Client Authentication CA. We set the CN and other options to
what we want for our systems to authorize them correctly, and then send
Many of our tailored members are apply to all four of my LPARs and reside in
SYS1.WSU.PARMLIB
LPAR specific members are in SYS1.lparname.PARMLIB
Changes are first IPL'd in SYS1.lparname.PARMLIB.OVERRIDE
Which is where I was before the migration to FNTS, so
Changed, common members where in
Holy parmlibs batman!!! Why on earth so many?
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I learned this from Skip, I think at my first SHARE. IMHO, SYS1.PARMLIB should
be on SYSRES and EMPTY. SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB, on SYSRES and SMP/E maintained.
My current production parmlib concatenation is:
PARMLIB SYS1.FNTS.WSUMVS1.PARMLIBWSUFNT
PARMLIB SYS1.FNTS.PARMLIB
Be careful what you ask for - you might get it. It's one of the things that I
don't like about REXX.
ObHamlet "And make us rather bear those semicolons we have, then fly to
continuation conventions that we know not of"
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I will have all available (and RSU,IBM or Hiper) maintenance on. And, yes
fallback is one of my larger concerns.
One of my least favorite memories from the early 90s is standalone restore of
catalog and SMS control dataset volumes between failed IPLs without proper
fallback PTFs on. I think
Problem resolved. Programmer error or ECC memory check in the programmer's
brain (take your pick).
The "global application library" is actually TWO libraries, one PDSE (current
application target library) and one PDS (modules not recently recompiled). The
E15 / E35 exit programs are located
Their meaning was vague in the 1950s. Try using MIPS to compare the performance
of a 704 and 704 without knowing the workload.
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Vernooij, Kees
I interpreted "might have taken pages of assembler instructions" as referring
to GETMAIN, FREEMAIN and linkage needed in conjunction with the BALR. With
PC/PR the registers are saved and restored with no additional user code.
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Hi Paul,
The buzzword you are hinting at is called "Toleration Maintenance".
Regards,
David
On 2019-08-30 12:39, Feller, Paul wrote:
> Sorry if my wording was off a little. But yes the idea is to apply any z/OS
> 2.1 fixes needed related to support of z/OS 2.3. That would get you nearer
> to
Andrew, that's a good thought. I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell whether it
is perfect from a cryptographic point of view or not.
FWIW though, that is not how X.509 standard client authentication works. It
works the way I described, in accordance with RFC 5246 7.4.6.
Passwords work, and are
Third party vendors also offer pure mainframe-based MFA. I am slightly familiar
with an offering from Vanguard, for example.
Charles
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"A PC can execute what might have taken many instructions before" is true in
the same sense that it is true for BAL: one instruction that you code goes
off and does a bunch of stuff elsewhere, saving you having to code all those
instructions.
It is also true in the sense that a PC can do in one
I would put it outside of the target zone but would keep a close tab on IBM
changes that you potentially might want to mirror.
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Agreed! Our parmlib concatenation consist of the business parmlib that
resides on MCAT pack, followed by the serverpack provided sys1.ibm.parmlib.
The sys1.parmlib from serverpack never gets used in our shop, except to take a
peek at what IBM thinks we should do on something.
Sorry if my wording was off a little. But yes the idea is to apply any z/OS
2.1 fixes needed related to support of z/OS 2.3. That would get you nearer to
a system that might allow for fall back from z/OS 2.4. I'm sure IBM would
suggest a two step approach. Install z/OS 2.3 as soon as
I'd like to address a question implied in this thread: where should I put the
installation 'business' PARMLIB, that is, the data set that typically contains
90+% of all required members, which are often tailored and do not change at all
from release to release. I would argue strongly in favor
The analogy is with iOS apps. The ones you'd ideally want to use are those
where the vendor is beta'ing iOS 13 (actually 13.1.)
Cheers, Martin
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Tom,
The idea is to apply 2.1 maintenance that would make 2.1 compatible with 2.3.
Since IBM won't release 2.4 compatibility maintenance for 2.1, if there's some
that would make 2.1 co-exist with 2.3, that might make it easier for the OP to
make the jump from 2.1 to 2.4.
Rex
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 10:48:03 +, Feller, Paul wrote:
Would it be a good thing to at least try to get any z/OS 2.3 compatibility
maintenance applied?
What does that mean to someone who is running z/OS 2.1?
You can't apply a z/OS 2.3 PTF to a z/OS 2.1 system.
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Yea That vendor until recently was still developing on z/OS 1.13 until
this summer when they made the jump to 2.2 or maybe 2.3. We are already at
V2.3, and really don’t want to skip a release or delay, although that is an
option I guess. It's just a bit short sighted on the vendors
Thanks Massimo, I did try that and got the same results - only the LINKLIST
version gets loaded even when the MODS statement uses a specific DD name.
Peter
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To:
Thanks Peter. In this case both exit programs are resident in LINKLIST and the
global application library in LINKLIST is (AFAIK) also LLA/VLF managed.
The precise sequence is a little more complicated than I first thought. Here
is the sequence:
JCL Invokes SYNCSORT
SYNCSORT invokes COBOL
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:59:02 +, Jon Perryman wrote:
>As for "executing authorized code in other address spaces", I actually meant
>any address space.
What do you mean by that? A PC instruction can pass control to code
in a specific address space, as defined when the PC routine was
Maybe he's talking about the more limited Primary and Secondary address
spaces.
Cheers, Martin
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On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 19:56:57 -1000, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
>in the wake of the FS faulure (FS was going to be completely different
>than 370, and 370 efforts were being shutdown during FS period, also
>lack of 370 offerings during FS period is credited with giving clone
>mainframe vendors
Exit loadlib should be listed in the MODLIB DD statement.
Page 380 / 4.27 in https://mysupport.syncsort.com/largefiles/mfx14pg.pdf
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 7:19 AM Peter Relson wrote:
>
> I know nothing about SYNCSORT, but it is possible (and if so they should
> document) that the way they ask
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:49 AM Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
>
> Jousma, David wrote:
>
> >Elardus, yea, I took quite a bit of vacation this summer
>
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> Good luck. (While I'm also waiting for z/OS v2.4 to be made available... ;-D )
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
Well,
Brian,
What datasets do you mean by "IPL datasets cataloged to "? Everything on
my SYSRES is cataloged to except SYS1.PARMLIB and we IPL just fine.
According to the 2.2 INIT & TUNING manual, changing is not allowed in
IEASYMxx at all. The further documented restriction is that
We've been asked to implement MFA on the zOS Mainframe. I've read some threads
on here, and it seems some have implemented IBM's MFA solution on zOS, and some
have implemented MFA on 'winders.'
The zOS solution is pricey so we are looking at alternatives. My question is:
Does a windows
Peter,
Ok, than I misunderstood what was or could be put into the PC microcode.
Kees.
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Peter Relson
> Sent: 30 August, 2019 14:25
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re:
>From what I understood of the PC instruction: with 1 instruction you can
now execute a 'function' that might have taken pages of assembler
instructions before.
I'm not sure where this thought comes from. The PC instruction is not
magic. It does not execute a "function" beyond the function
I know nothing about SYNCSORT, but it is possible (and if so they should
document) that the way they ask the system to fetch the module
specifically indicates not to use tasklib/steplib/joblib. When the system
does that it is typically to be using its copy of the named module rather
than
Kees,
I fully agree!!! I suspect there are quite a few banks that run this
application. When I had a meeting with these folks, I got the impression that
there was may the "one guy left" that could delve into the assembler code that
supports this.
We are escalating the vendor now
Jousma, David wrote:
>Elardus, yea, I took quite a bit of vacation this summer
Grrr, I'm so jealous! ;-)
But, I have been in a lot of projects and am now just lurking sniffing out the
IBM-MAIN and other listserv posts on their websites...
>I always suspend delivery
Yes, then it is the end for this application.
But from your description I understand that there must be more customers who
will have the 2.4 problem. Is this still no reason for the company to start
converting to the current standards?
Kees.
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> From: IBM Mainframe
Well, my excitement was short-lived.In the text of OA56180 I read:
Note: This APAR only applies to user key CSA storage. Both
user key (8-15) SCOPE=COMMON data spaces and the usage of
the CHANGKEY service to change the storage key of common
storage to a key of 8-15 are not affected by
It does, because 2.4 does not support userkeycsa(yes) anymore. It is also
discussed in the 2.4 migration guide.
It seems to me the feature will stay, because IBM has fulfilled its goal to
block CSA from being used by unauthorized users with full read/write access.
Now you must selectively
Elardus, yea, I took quite a bit of vacation this summer I always suspend
delivery of IBM-MAIL mail during that time, otherwise my outlook email box
would probably fill up. :)
_
Dave
Would there be any concerns with internal changes to system dataset structures?
As an example like catalogs or things like HSM CDS datasets? Going from z/OS
2.1 to z/OS 2.4 is technically not support for fallback. Would it be a good
thing to at least try to get any z/OS 2.3 compatibility
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 11:31:33 -0500, Joel M Ivey wrote:
>In zOS, is it possible to extract a private key, making it viewable by a
>human, generated by the RACF RACDCERT GENCERT command?
RACDCERT EXPORT perhaps?
Yea... Funny thing it is a pretty major/well known Financial Application
vendor. Every 4-6 months for the last two years I've been pinging them on
their status. I just don’t think they understand the gravity of the situation
they are creating here.
Also, I did open a PMR on this PTF.
We discovered it in Cheryl's newsletter 2019 no.1.
Kees.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: 30 August, 2019 12:20
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4
>
> This is the
I would ask they cover your cost for this as part of their product,
since they are the only product you use that needs it.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jousma, David
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> This is the first I have seen this! That is good news. We have
Jousma, David wrote:
>This is the first I have seen this! That is good news.
That is indeed good news. APAR OA53355 and APAR OA56180 were discussed several
times on IBM-MAIN. Perhaps you have missed that?
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
This is the first I have seen this! That is good news. We have one
particular Financial Business application, written/distributed by outside
vendor that I have been bugging now since I put V2.3 in almost 2 years ago to
remediate. They still have not yet remediated there code, and I was
As long as you don't have any USERKEYCSA or USERKEYCAD applications to
remediate, you will probably be ok. As IBM has removed support for that in
2.4. What is the official IBM stance? N-2 or N-3? I don't recall.
I'll be ordering 2.4 this fall as well.
RUCSA is available for z/OS 2.1, so you can implement on you current systems
and move it out of the migration path.
Kees.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Martin Packer
> Sent: 30 August, 2019 10:37
> To:
Peter,
I've tried the same on a customer site running Syncsort 2.1.5.0R on zOS 2.3
and it seems everything works fine.
You can try (only a try) to code the DDNAME on E15/E35, add the DD with
LOADLIB and see if anything changes.
MODS E15=(EXITE15M,2048000,MYDDN,C),E35=(EXITE35M,2048000,MYDDN,C)
Note: With RUCSA there are still migration actions - because of the new
way of allowing an address space to use it.
Cheers, Martin
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IBM has a payed feature called Restricted Use CSA, that allows you to keep your
applics with userkeycsa running in 2.4.
Check OA56180.
Kees.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: 30 August, 2019
Just monoplexes. Some limited sharing of DASD. Not even GRS.
But, I had forgot about ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES). We do use that setting.
Our Natural Global Buffer Pool is one such use.
We are quite back level with both Natural and Adabas.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
This is actually answered by IBM here
https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21192432
The CICS module goes first because it's needed to provide support for the CICS
VR addresspace. The CICS version of the module is MUCH bigger than the
delivered one from SMS and contains all of the
You can't IPL with the IPL datasets cataloged to , it fails if you try to
set to something in IEASYMxx. The same is true if you try to use a
symbolic for the catalog volume(s) (assuming it's separate from the res
volume(s)), but I think that issue is the ICF catalogs themselves. You can
A little less I think.
I remember their meaning became vague when comparing performance and MIPS of
Amdahl and IBM machines gave unexplainable differences during the 80's.
And when IBM started putting more functionality into an instruction, if was
definitely renamed to Meaningless Indicator of
IS your a Parallel sysplex or just LPAR environment? If not parallel sysplex,
then you have nothing to worry about, except for the fact that the
ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES) change (which won't affect you if you aren't using it
now), everything else is fairly minor. If your running a sysplex, then
>I just checked my master cat and EVERY entry has , 2, or 3 except
>SYS1.PARMLIB on the SYSRES It has **. and both are set
>to since we use mod 27s. We are at z/OS 2.3.
All, thanks for checking.
So my conclusion way back when must have been wrong. I had left SYS1.PARMLIB
(that came
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