Re: UNIT=SEP still alive (?)

2013-08-30 Thread Skip Robinson
While SEP is certainly obsolete in the world of virtual disk, AFF is very much required in cases where many--perhaps dozens of--tape files are to be read in a single step. MVS does not know from virtual, so he wants to allocate 25 drives to read 25 tape volumes unless constrained by AFF. Althou

Re: Health Checker Eating My DASD

2013-08-30 Thread Skip Robinson
I haven't seen this problem except when logger is sick. OTOH we use system logger for other functions: SMF, Operlog, CICS logs. I'm not sure what makes these puppies go away on a regular basis, but I also thought the combination of RETPD and AUTODELETE would make them disappear. If a log stream

Re: "New" way to do UCB lookups

2012-11-15 Thread Skip Robinson
It's a little like the question of performance hits on a volume shared by 'low use' data sets. A data set may get used infrequently, but when it gets used, it gets used heavily if only for a brief period. We undergo periodic hardware refreshes in which we move all data on every subsystem from

Re: Regarding Time Sharing

2012-11-17 Thread Skip Robinson
An observation I missed so far in this thread is that the very acronym 'TSO' is a historic misnomer. For many decades now TSO has not involved 'time sharing' any more than batch jobs or started tasks do. Nor has TSO been 'optional' in my professional lifetime. You can choose not to allow anyone

Re: LPAR real storage size

2012-11-22 Thread Skip Robinson
Nothing beats an Excel spreadsheet for keeping track what you have defined and what's available. However, at any point in time, you can check the actual used and unused storage via Single Object Operations to the SE of the CEC you're interested in. The Storage icon will tell you the total amoun

Re: Historical question regarding the stop command

2012-12-05 Thread Skip Robinson
The ability to terminate a TSO user with STOP is not used much, but I once worked with a shop that required, as part of their security/integrity environment, that a user never be allowed to reach 'TSO Ready'. The user was put into ISPF at logon and logged off upon exit from ISPF. Their focus wa

Re: Historical question regarding the stop command

2012-12-05 Thread Skip Robinson
Of course I had to try it for the first time in years. 1. Logon to TSO as SKIP01 at z/OS R13. 2. Issue P SKIP01 from a console. 3. Hit a few times, just get Ready. I.e. 'nothing happens'. 4. Then... pdf IKJ56620I MVS STOP command encountered. TSO/E session is terminated. IKJ56470I SKIP01

Re: Historical question regarding the stop command

2012-12-05 Thread Skip Robinson
I confess to not knowing the gizzard level details, but I suspect that TIME is not a 'real' TSO command in the way that D T (I'm told) is not a real console command. The gizzard wizards on the list can evaluate this opinion. In any case, aside from some odd reports of inconsistency, it would a

Re: How to load logical load x'ac'

2012-12-07 Thread Skip Robinson
OP hasn't responded to this post, but I can tell you that FTP is included with Comm Server. You can choose to run it or not, but you don't have to pay extra for it. I know of shops that disallow FTP on some servers, including but not limited to mainframe. So not having FTP is probably a matter

Re: SMP/E Panels and Mixed Case

2012-12-12 Thread Skip Robinson
I would expect this problem to be APARable. Open an SR. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Paul Gilmartin To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,

Re: BCPII and activation profile

2012-12-16 Thread Skip Robinson
I never saw a reply to Lizette's post. We also have an interest in the same topic. We want to encourage members of the technical staff to manage our sandbox LPARs rather than pester--er, request--Operations to shut down/IPL systems that 'we' own. The problem is how to allow these folks to manag

Re: BCPII and activation profile

2012-12-17 Thread Skip Robinson
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 12/17/2012 08:09 AM Subject:Re: BCPII and activation profile Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:30:24 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I never saw a reply to Lizette's post. We also have an interest in the >s

Re: SMP/E: "Move" products from one GLOBAL CSI to another

2012-12-31 Thread Skip Robinson
I'd like to suggest that you reconsider the business case for merging disparate and unrelated SMP/E objects into one amorphous mass. We determined years ago to install z/OS and only z/OS into a single independent GLOBAL zone. This zone gets replaced in toto with each new ServerPac with no impac

Re: Security vulnerability in IBM HTTP Server for z/OS Version 5.3 (PM79239)

2013-01-03 Thread Skip Robinson
Elaborating on the details would be akin to posting a prominent sign on your front door: "Attention--lock broken. Locksmith coming Tuesday" . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile j

Re: Security vulnerability in IBM HTTP Server for z/OS Version 5.3 (PM79239)

2013-01-06 Thread Skip Robinson
I have no hifalutin wisdom to share, but our experience was different. Our highly attentive and connected IBM Client Technical Specialist (CTS) directly emailed us sysprogs the day after Xmas. I was on vacation at the time, but my colleague Tom Brennan pulled the PTFs, installed them, migrated

Re: LLA Management of Linklst datasets

2013-01-10 Thread Skip Robinson
If a shop has more than *one* sysprog, deferred LLA update/refresh is a disaster lying in wait. YOU may think refresh will occur if and when YOU are ready, but someone else may be navigating a different trajectory. Depending on the module changes involved, premature refresh can cause havoc. My

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Skip Robinson
I've never used BPXWDYN, but I do know that the ancient practice of FREEing a file that is not currently allocated educes a message to that effect. On the other hand, ALLOCATing with REUSE works 'cleanly' whether or not the file is already allocated. I assume that BPXWDYN honors REUSE... . .

Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...)

2013-01-14 Thread Skip Robinson
...@sce.com From: Paul Gilmartin To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 01/14/2013 01:05 PM Subject:Re: Beware BPXWDYN (Was: Problem with REXX using OMVS stuff...) Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:46:03 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I'

Re: FTP z/OS to z/OS "501 Invalid data set name" - codepage issue?

2013-01-18 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm not sure how this relates to MVS-only transfers, but x'5B' (in my editor, dollar sign) cannot be used in file names sent to IBM TESTCASE in support of SRs. The venerable tool PUTDOC has long handled dollar sign and pound/number sign by translating to @: /

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Skip Robinson
I want to reiterate an endorsement of AUTOIPL. It costs nothing but some configuration time. In DIAGxx you put AUTOIPL SADMP(,SMSYSC) MVS(LAST) /* IPL SAD FROM SAD IPL vv */ When we first went to z/OS R13, we stumbled on an obscure memory leak problem that took IBM a while to figur

Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited

2013-01-23 Thread Skip Robinson
bject:Re: Stand-alone Dump Revisited Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:33:51 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote: >I want to reiterate an endorsement of AUTOIPL. It costs nothing but some >configuration time. In DIAGxx you put > > AUTOIPL SADMP

Re: Coupling facility - Non Volatile performance

2013-01-24 Thread Skip Robinson
We've been doing parallel sysplex since 1995. I've never heard of any performance implication. It's all about structure placement: some exploiters insist on placing their structures in nonvolatile CFs. We've run 'nonvolatile' for so long that I forget the gritty details, but I'm pretty sure tha

Re: SMF LOGGER Questions

2013-01-25 Thread Skip Robinson
We run with CF structure support, but I can see lots of messages like this: IEF196I IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (SYS15575) IEF196I DSN (TECH.IFASMF.DEFAULT.A0096130) IEF196I STORCLAS (STANDARD) MGMTCLAS (NOACTION) DATACLAS IEF196I (SMFLOG) IEF196I V

Re: SMF LOGGER Questions

2013-01-25 Thread Skip Robinson
Maybe I misunderstood the original question. These messages appear in syslog as SMF logger rolls the offload data sets forward. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin

Re: SMF LOGGER Questions

2013-01-28 Thread Skip Robinson
As I said previously, we use a CF structure for SMF logger, but I think it's set up similarly for DASD only. We specify the SMS data class 'SMFLOG' in the log stream definition. DEFINE LOGSTREAM NAME(IFASMF.DEFAULT) HLQ(LOGR) STRUCTNAME(IFASMF_DEFAULT) LS_SIZE

Re: Watching used space of a PDS

2013-01-29 Thread Skip Robinson
The standard solution for a heavily used library that needs frequent space or directory adjustments is PDSE. Requires no monitoring or tweaking. You just have to make sure that the library is shared only within a sysplex. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon T

Re: My Last Days as a Sysprog

2013-02-01 Thread Skip Robinson
There's still room here. What's more, you can make the same trek in the dead of summer without expiring in heat and humidity. Y'all come on out! . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mo

Re: SMPPTS Spill Data Set

2013-02-13 Thread Skip Robinson
If you needed a spill data set in the past, you'll probably need one again some day. Given the trouble it takes to create and then delete a spill data set, I'm with others in recommending that you just leave it. I've never deleted one, but I know that displaying a sysmod in the Global zone show

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
After all our guesswork, I think it's time to take a console dump of the hung task. At worst take a standalone dump, which shouldn't be very big by that time. If you can't figure it out yourself (no shame there), then open an SR and send the dump to IBM. This situation should be APARable... . .

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
However you finally select candidates, be aware of some behavior changes that *other* folks in your shop may find disturbing. Not to mention *yourself* later on down the road. A library managed by LLA will not show updated contents until after an LLA REFRESH. For example, if you update a membe

Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
We have an old TSO command call SPACE that gives a quick display of online DASD, tape, and some other stuff. It reports a DASD device as 3390-xx based on a table lookup using some data in the returned UCB. This command never reports a device as bigger than a Mod-9 even though the capacity may b

Re: Determining 3390 Model

2013-02-16 Thread Skip Robinson
Thanks for all replies. Our SPACE command also uses DCE to determine model number. Two points: 1. The reason I'd like to display a 'meaningful' model number is not for ordinary allocation but for volume-to-volume activities like copy (ADRDSSU) or mirroring. In such cases, it's important that th

Re: Improve LLA/VLF usage

2013-02-18 Thread Skip Robinson
u think SMF records type 14 is the way to go? Thanks again, Leonardo Vaz -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Improve LLA/VL

Re: ISPF Scrollable area

2013-02-21 Thread Skip Robinson
What you're observing is the default behavior of ISPF dialogs from the dawn of time. Unfortunately I can't put my hands on an example right now, but if you want a panel to redisplay 'as before' with the same line on top, your dialog code needs to remember the line number of the top line and the

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Skip Robinson
In the interest of frugality, I asked my storage guys some time ago to allocate some tiny volumes for JES checkpoint and couple data sets. After a while, they complained that it was more trouble than it was worth because we mirror most volumes to the DR site. For every tiny source volume, they

Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed

2013-02-22 Thread Skip Robinson
ge- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mod-9 vs. Mod-27 vs. mixed [ External ] In the interest of frugality, I asked my storage guys some time ago to a

Re: Reading Active SMF dataset

2013-02-25 Thread Skip Robinson
OK, since I didn't see anyone else asking of OP: why this preoccupation with reading the active SMF MANx? When I converted to SMF log stream, I never even fleetingly considered delving into active data. What do you expect to see there that would influence your conversion plan? . . JO.Skip Robi

Re: ISPF Scrollable area

2013-02-26 Thread Skip Robinson
I confess to not realizing earlier that you were not dealing with a table. I performed the actions you spelled out and get essentially the same result. The row visible after 'down 2' seems to depend on where the screen splits. Otherwise it looks like a failure to clear ZCMD except that the word

Re: JES exit 6

2013-02-27 Thread Skip Robinson
I wondered briefly along the same lines, so I got off my duff and assembled the instruction myself: 06 D503 C018 6000 00018 0 9 CLC =CL4'VPRT',0(R6) ... 18 E5D7D9E3 35=CL4'VPRT' '03' indicates the correct length on the CLC. 'C018' i

Re: SAVE macro

2013-02-27 Thread Skip Robinson
In the 1980s, like most shops, we ran JES2 Exit 13 in order to get notify messages. For some reason you had to give JES2 a non-default return code from Exit 13 or the message was suppressed. I became the JES2 guy after a decade or more of MVS history in the shop. At some point--for reasons lost

Re: DFSORT Weirdness

2013-03-01 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm following this thread with rapt attention. We have what I believe to be the same problem. I never before associated it with DASD architecture nor with a particular product like DFSORT. Our development system gets IPLed every Sunday around 02:00. Throughout Sunday and into Monday, local page

Re: DFSORT Weirdness

2013-03-01 Thread Skip Robinson
y, Skip has about 28 GB of page space, and it looks like he's using a bit less than half of it. -- Tom Marchant >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Skip Robinson >Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 22:26 >To:

Re: Paging Behaviour; was: Re: DFSORT Weirdness

2013-03-04 Thread Skip Robinson
Now on Monday morning (09:00 PST) page usage for this system looks as below. Per SOP, the system was IPLed about 31 hours earlier. I don't know when usage began climbing above zero, but I fully expect that by the end of the week, it will look similar to my earlier posting. Yes, we run health ch

Re: RLS SMSVSAM and PLEX wide IPL

2013-03-04 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm with Mark on the unlikely impact of CPU upgrade on couple data sets. We went through a full push-pull upgrade in 2008 and another one-by-one push-pull in 2012. As long as the IODF is coded properly and recabling performed correctly, there should be no loss of access to any previously define

Re: RLS SMSVSAM and PLEX wide IPL

2013-03-04 Thread Skip Robinson
We've been doing RLS for long time. I was always a bit uncomfortable that command interface was all we had. Even if PARMLIB contained only a backup set to satisfy SMS, we'd be way ahead of the game. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE

Re: Reality check on LOAD + Rexx LINKPGM

2013-03-06 Thread Skip Robinson
You have our blessing. Go forth and LOAD. ;-) . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 03/

Re: Enqueue during VSAM REPRO - Who is the culprit

2013-03-11 Thread Skip Robinson
We had a similar nagging problem not long ago. We got message IKJ56225I but no indication of what the problem was. It was also fleeting, so D GRS after the fact never showed the culprit. We finally automated on that message to issue D GRS,RES=(*,xxx) where xxx is taken from the IKJ56225I messag

Re: Long Passwords

2013-03-18 Thread Skip Robinson
We ESPed the release that introduced mixed case passwords and phrases; 1.7 I believe. We tested on our sandbox under controlled conditions and were satisfied that the new features worked as expected. However, we never went to production for reasons already suggested: 1 No support *at that time

Re: Making DASD shared - IODF

2013-03-25 Thread Skip Robinson
The clearest exposure is that different systems (LPARs) performing different enterprise roles may well treat like-named data sets differently. For example, if SYSA is a development/test/sandbox system while SYSB is a production system, the access rules on SYSA may well be much looser in general

Re: MQ SMF Mapping Macros

2013-03-27 Thread Skip Robinson
I looked for them via the SMPE Dialog: Target Zone name, blank Entry Name, element name as given. Each one shows a MAC entry. Located in syslib SCSQMACS . FMID is HMS7010 . . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-01 Thread Skip Robinson
Sorry for reaching back to an older posting in this thread. I did not see this question handled. I worked with Ed at that same institution, the late great Security Pacific Bank. While it's true that (undoubtedly) no module in the widely shared production load library was marked AC(1), the libra

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-01 Thread Skip Robinson
Trivia 2. What quirk of the punch card had an effect so profound that it survives today in EBCDIC? . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Charle

Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud

2013-04-01 Thread Skip Robinson
lliams To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 04/01/2013 08:43 PM Subject:Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List S is x'E2' instead of x'E1' Don > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion L

Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)

2013-04-07 Thread Skip Robinson
++MACUPD and ++SRCUPD depend entirely on FB sequence numbers. Without sequence numbers, every macro or source 'update' would have to be delivered as a complete replacement. For better or worse. I don't believe that VB sequence numbers have the same requirement because few (if any?) SMPE elemen

Re: DFSORT 180M recs

2012-06-14 Thread Skip Robinson
The error messages are crucial for this kind of problem. We had a case recently of a (DF)SORT job failing on an unusually large number of records. The error message contained a reference to '64K', which turned out to be the maximum number of tracks in a conventional data set. DFSORT assumes whe

Re: Problem with SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER - SOLVED

2012-06-14 Thread Skip Robinson
Mazel tov! I've always used FORTGTZONES just because. Never dreamed of possible problems in omitting it. The idea of trying to give you 'everything' for an empty zone seems wickedly bizarre, but you have to play the same game as your opponent. Er, benefactor. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastru

Re: Change IEASYMxx via operator prompt

2012-06-14 Thread Skip Robinson
Our operators never 'change IPL address'. They select the appropriate LOAD profile on the HMC before IPL. We don't find it necessary on a regular basis, but each LOAD profile can contain a unique LOADPARM value where the specified LOADxx suffix points to a unique IPLPARM member. That way no one

Expiring SMPE Certificate

2012-06-14 Thread Skip Robinson
Is anyone else severely inconvenienced by the annual expiration of the SMPE Certificate: GIM69221WCERTIFICATE SMPE Client Certificate WILL EXPIRE WITHIN 16 DAYS. One year is just long enough for me to forget completely how to do it. I have go doc diving yet again. The renewal process is

Re: Change IEASYMxx via operator prompt

2012-06-15 Thread Skip Robinson
M Subject:Re: Change IEASYMxx via operator prompt Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:17:39 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2012-06-15 01:07, Skip Robinson pisze: >> Our operators never 'change IPL address'. They select the appropriate LO

Re: SHOWZOS

2012-06-18 Thread Skip Robinson
Query your SMPE target zone for DDDEF SEZANMAC . That will show you the name in your shop. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Gerry Anst

Re: System AS vs a STC as?

2012-06-21 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: System AS vs a STC as?

2012-06-21 Thread Skip Robinson
One last time. As 'new' message rather than reply. Looks like I got hit by the ghost of Christmas alien. I'll try one more time. One big distinction of true 'system STCs' is the ability to start a task using this proc: //IEESYSAS PROC PROG=IEFBR14 //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=&PROG //* THE IEES

Re: Have you enabled MIDAW and zHPF? If not, why not?

2012-06-22 Thread Skip Robinson
I don't believe that MIDAW is a charged feature on IBM DASD. Health check IOS_MIDAW flags 'off' as a low exception. The other features may be a different matter. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 O

Re: Catalog Device Type Conversion

2012-06-25 Thread Skip Robinson
There are several 'mainstream' catalog management products that most likely could perform this function. I'm guessing that most shops already have or another of these products. The (historic) problem with using native IDCAMS is the excruciating elapsed time to run thousands of DELETE/DEFINE or

Re: Catalog Device Type Conversion

2012-06-26 Thread Skip Robinson
I was so excited by the RECATALOG option that I had to look it up. I had thought that only worked for clusters. Sigh. Don't think it will work here. From AMS for Catalogs: "RECATALOG specifies that the catalog entries are re-created if valid VVDS entries are found on the primary VVDS volume. I

Re: HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT WORKING CORRECTLY

2012-06-27 Thread Skip Robinson
I've been a dedicated user of Vista TN3270 since Tom Brennan said, Here, try this new emulator I'm writing. Its copy/paste options far exceed those in any other product I've seen. One reason that Vista is so usable is that it was written by a long time mainframe systems programmer who learned C+

Re: HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT WORKING CORRECTLY

2012-06-28 Thread Skip Robinson
Cut/paste in an emulator involves two related questions: -- What do you want to copy? -- How do you want to paste what you've copied? It's a little simplistic to characterize a copy/paste operation as merely simulating fingers on a keyboard. Certainly a plain string of characters is easy to cop

Re: PCOMM alternate screen size

2012-06-28 Thread Skip Robinson
Rise up. Throw off your shackles. Celebrate 3270 Spring! . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Thomas Conley To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: (External):Re: Applications in a Sysplex/CICSplex

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We have an application that utilizes an RYO record locking mechanism. I believe that it predates even LPAR, when all CICS regions ran on a single OS image that occupied an entire CEC. The locks live in a CSA table, which is great for regions running in the same image but problematic for regions

Re: (External):Re: IPL wait state

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
z/OS does indeed behave this way. Every volume is initialized with the non-sysres wait state code. This is how IBM can document the consequence of IPLing from a non-sysres volume. The wait state code gets overwritten by properly formed IPL text. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edis

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-13 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A Friday musing. We at SHARE pounded on IBM for years to implement symbol substitution in batch. IBM's defense of the status quo was that unlike STC and TSO, where execution is immediate on a known system, a batch job could wander all around the JES network on its way from submit to execute. And

Re: (External):Re: RSU APPLY

2015-11-16 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In a memorable scene from Lethal Weapon 3, Mel Gibson and Rene Russo compare battle scars. Many of us could easily step into that scene and compete. RSU* might represent some of our scars. OTOH RSU* might have prevented some of those scars. Maintenance is an art, not a science. There's no magic

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcommands and prompt responses, which need to be QUEUEd (or PUSHed) onto the stack before the main command is issued. This can be problematic when the response cannot be known in advance of issuing the command. For example, the data set name to use for

Re: Moving a Sysplex

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Others may know something I don't, but I would answer No. I don't believe you can run a (parallel) sysplex over that distance because of CF link limitations. Furthermore, assuming that you could somehow get one sysplex member sharing across that distance, you would have to switch from using prod

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE) On 2015-11-17 12:00, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > Unlike CLIST, REXX is tricky for handling subcomman

Re: (External):Re: Moving a Sysplex

2015-11-17 Thread J O Skip Robinson
tserv Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Moving a Sysplex Thanks for the information. Do you remember how long your outage was? We're being told (using one solution) that the outage will be on the order of two hours. Mark Jacobs > J O Skip Rob

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Since IBM does define any model larger than a Mod-9, usage of other Mod-xx terms is user defined. I would think, however, that the historical derivation of model terminology is based on capacity relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1. In any case, a Mod-9 is 3x the size of a Mod-3, so I would expect a

Re: Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
So now I was moved to look at our actual sizes. Mod-9: 10016 cyls Mod-27: 30050 cyls (3x would be 30048 cyls) Mod-54: 60101 cyls (6x would be 60096 cyls) I'm not a storage guy; just reporting what I see. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler S

Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's?

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: (External):Is there an Standard Size for 3390-27's? In , on 11/18/2015 at 05:19 PM, J O Skip Robinson said: >relative to a (mythical?) Mod-1 Mythical? What are the 3390-A

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-18 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This happened some years ago, different incident. We had a nightly job that ran on four different parallel sysplexes to [list catalog stuff]. Don’t remember the details. Essentially the same job ran on three sysplexes in about 2 minutes. On the fourth it ran over 20 minutes. I looked at the envi

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to cause big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed volume must be cataloged. It cannot just sit there uncataloged. Irresistible force meets unmovable object. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern Californi

Re: (External):Re: Deleting all members of a pds

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Can also be accomplished with PDS[85] command or StarTool product. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE)

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
artin Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Fastest way to read OLDEST GDG entry (also RECEIVE) On 2015-11-17 15:23, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > An XMITted file sits in the JES output queue in a designated class (usually > B) with the

Re: TSO RECEIVE under UNIX Rexx (was: REXX-question)

2015-11-19 Thread J O Skip Robinson
The OUTPUT command (at least here) shows only Held output. XMITted files must be in (non-held) Output. If I try to see my file via OUTPUT, I get IKJ56339I NO HELD OUTPUT FOR JOB my-userid . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program C

Re: (External):Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
None of my cards has been chipified, surprising considering the size of the issuing institutions. I shopped yesterday at an upscale supermarket using my magstripe card. The clerk pointed out that the card machine included a chip reader but allowed that it had not yet been activated, so I would h

Re: SMPE apply excluding certain FMID's?

2015-11-23 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Being able to install maintenance separately can be very important depending on your shop's organization and the distribution of duties among (even a small number of) folks. I see two classes of components: 1) Those closely akin to z/OS that install on and migrate with sysres. 2) Those not in c

Re: (External):Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current system's master catalog. Furthermore, IMPORT CONNECT does not require that the catal

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(Reposting with edited subject. Sorry that I forget to massage it so often.) In order to make a 'foreign' catalog available, I don't believe you DEFINE RECAT because the catalog already exists. IMPORT CONNECT (whereby you name the volume) creates all the necessary pointers in the current system'

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
very helpful. Thanks all very much Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: User Cat

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-25 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: User Cats and Replication Sites > > (Reposting with edi

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I confess to not having slogged through this thread, but from the beginning I've wondered why no one has suggested the static system symbol &SYSALVL. System symbols can be queried from pretty much any environment. They're set automatically at IPL. Maybe OP needs more detail... . . . J.O.Skip Ro

Re: User Cats and Replication Sites

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:53:09 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote: >Nothing beats replication, the more the better. Hmmm - unless you happen to have a critical error in the source. Replicating that quietly everywhere can leave you with non-IPLable systems *everywhere*. Which you may not find out ab

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-29 Thread J O Skip Robinson
he resulting code S0C1's on a z10. My boss wants something more user-friendly than a S0C1. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J O Skip Robinson Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-11-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I'm reaching back a long way to stretch the notion of 'straightforward', but here goes. When I was a novice sysprog, my shop had an Amdahl. MVS at that time predated 'system product'. (Way back.) IBM shipped a new level of MVS that executed instructions not present our Amdahl. Amdahl responded b

Re: IBM Automatic (COBOL) Binary Optimizer Now Availabile

2015-11-30 Thread J O Skip Robinson
In early discussions of this facility at SHARE, several customers owned up to the iffy practice of sharing load libraries across boundaries such that shared PDSEs would be unworkable. This practice is fixable, of course, but a considerable amount of work might be required in the application migr

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Timeframe was 1980 plus or minus. I was a true novice sysprog and kept an arm's length from OS innards. It was during that two-year gig that MVS/SP was announced, so not likely available just yet. I only remember being impressed with the clever workaround that kept the Amdahl useful. P.S. The

Re: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
MVCIN was indeed a useful instruction. I encountered it (IIRC) on a 4381. I assumed that, like typical new instructions, it would stick around for the duration. I was later shocked to discover that it had been abandoned on a siding somewhere along the railway to the future. Probably still there

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

2015-12-01 Thread J O Skip Robinson
(This whole season feels like Friday.) A doughnut, on the other hand, requires the hole for its very definition. The hole supplies no mass or nutritional value, but without it the thing is not a doughnut. By contrast a punch card requires the solid part to give the holes meaning; they would othe

Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?]

2015-12-02 Thread J O Skip Robinson
External):Re: What's a "ton" of JCL? [was:RE: Straightforward way to determine hardware architecture level?] On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:02:01 -0600, Dana Mitchell wrote: >On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 23:03:59 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote: > >>(This whole season feels like Friday.)

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