Re: Mainframe 3490 Tape Cartridges

2020-10-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
Contact me off list. I have an active 3490 on my floor in Florida. I can create an AWS file that I can then send to you. If it's a vendor tape, I will need proof of license. Tony Thigpen Joseph Winters wrote on 10/5/20 6:47 AM:   Hello, We have a couple of 3490 tape cartridges

Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
I am running IBMs Book Reader under CrossOver under Linux. Book Reader does not really have a 'Print all of the book' option. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 9/29/20 12:40 PM: On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:23:29 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen wrote

Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
There used to be a web tool at: http://ps-2.kev009.com/boo2pdf/ He has discontinued the web service, but does provide links if you want to install something on your computer. Tony Thigpen Tony Harminc wrote on 9/29/20 12:23 PM: On Mon, 28 Sep 2020 at 16:12, Tony Thigpen wrote: FYI, I do

Re: Working link for current 3270 Data Stream

2020-09-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
FYI, I do have a copy of GA23-0059-07 in PDF format that I created from the BOO sometime in the past. If anyone wants a copy. Tony Thigpen Phil Smith III wrote on 9/28/20 3:24 PM: Gil wrote: IMHO, Bookie doesn't make the top ten. For example, how might I view the document mentioned on my

Re: TN3270E TNPROFx question (resolved)

2020-09-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
Simple resolution. Just needed to had my VTAMLIB to the STEPLIB for the TN3270E job. I am surprised that it was not already in the job. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 9/27/20 7:23 PM: I want TN3270E connections on a specific port to display the VTAM USSTAB instead of going directly

TN3270E TNPROFx question

2020-09-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
lid USSTAB that is the initial panel for VTAM terminals, I just want to TCP terminals (on this one port) to show the same thing. If someone could show me a valid coded BeginVTAM/EndVTAM that works for this, that would be helpful. To

Re: Ransoming a mainframe disk farm

2020-09-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
depends on somebody not having good backups. The use of offsite backups, which most any zOS installation have, really does not yield an environment where ransomware can easily cripple a site. --- end of my reply to management Tony Thigpen Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 9/4/20 2:50 PM: It’s

Re: Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
am not talking simple things like OSA configure or IOCP to support new hardware, but real changes that just made the base operating system fail. Tony Thigpen Peter Relson wrote on 9/2/20 8:11 AM: What CPU's were involved with each level, and what was the real underlying item changed on the CPU

Re: Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-01 Thread Tony Thigpen
And, to make matters worse, IBM reinstated the MVCIN on later processors after having dropped it for at least one machine built after the 43xx machines. It works now and has since at least the MP3k. Tony Thigpen Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 9/1/20 9:36 PM: Instructions come and--believe

Re: Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-01 Thread Tony Thigpen
that caused havoc. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 9/1/20 3:30 PM: Typically the new features reqiured by a level set were added over several generations, and each generation added more than one feature. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Architectural Level Sets

2020-09-01 Thread Tony Thigpen
keep it limited to z990 and newer.) Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
to another re-load. Too many index levels usually indicate something else is not right. Tony Thigpen Michael Watkins wrote on 8/30/20 9:07 PM: More efficient in terms of fewer index LEVELs as Tony Thigpen may have been getting at? I thought the number of LEVELs was contingent on the the size of

Re: Simple VSAM question on sizing INDEX component

2020-08-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
How many index levels do you have? Tony Thigpen Lizette Koehler wrote on 8/30/20 6:11 PM: List - I have a VSAM Dataset that has grown over the years. When it was set up - the INDEX space was left to default I am wondering if it makes sense to override the Track Allocation and put

Re: report splitting

2020-08-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
them back in as separate reports. It just need simple "if I see this on a header line, break up the report" logic. I have written this for z/VSE before, I guess I just need to allocate the time to convert the z/VSE code to z/OS. Tony Thigpen Mike Schwab wrote on 8/28/20 5:17

report splitting

2020-08-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
don't see anything on the CBT that addresses this, but there may be a small item in a larger bundle that I can't identify from the contents of FILE001. Or, someone may have some basic code they can share so that I don't have to re-invent the wheel on this one. Tony Thigpen

DASD VOL1 label question

2020-08-07 Thread Tony Thigpen
both source and dest). Does anybody know of any doc on these fields? Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Multiprise 3000

2020-08-06 Thread Tony Thigpen
Contact me off-list. I might be able to help with an old piece of surplus equipment, but I am very limited in how I dispose of it. Tony Thigpen W Mainframe wrote on 8/6/20 1:21 AM: Guys,Any small ESCON storage suggestion for a 7060-P30 model (Multiprise 3000).  Something really small

Re: [External] Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-08-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
-haul trucking. Just like the 18% interest rates of the 70's, we hope to never see a national 55MPH speed limit again. Tony Thigpen Pommier, Rex wrote on 8/4/20 9:01 AM: Radoslaw, Speed limits are different in the States based on which state you're in. Each state can set its own speed

Re: [OT] OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-23 Thread Tony Thigpen
I know this has just about run it's course, but I came across this interesting youtube video about "why the US did not adopt the metric system" by a legitimate historian. https://youtu.be/yseldOMcT4Q Tony Thigpen Bob Bridges wrote on 7/23/20 10:13 AM: I would be willing

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Horse Power?? Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 10:20 PM: On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:31:03 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: Foot pounds is a measure of pressure ??? Torque? -Original Message- From: Seymour J Metz Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 5:29 PM Yes, and whyat is lbf

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
See! SI is a "FANTASTIC" improvement over old stuff. It's all standardized and everyone talks in the same way. (NOT!) Thank you France. Vive la pound, and inch, and mile... (This post was posted with sarcastic mode set to "on".) Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
I guess everyone knows I can't type worth a flip. :-) Tony Thigpen Mike Schwab wrote on 7/21/20 4:58 PM: 100 KPM (Kilometers per minute) would be about 6,000 KPH (Kilometers per hour), about Mach 6, or 3 times the speed of the Concorde. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
But who believes anything that the NPR says. :-) (As I slap myself in the face for bringing up politics.) Tony Thigpen Jesse 1 Robinson wrote on 7/21/20 3:22 PM: Or not... https://www.npr.org/2013/01/14/169140590/-the-whole-nine-yards-of-what . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
ware store. And, they look to actually be metric when you measure them. Also, plywood seems to be a bit "off" on the thickness too. The router bits I used to use to make glue-up dado slots (with plywood going into the slot) are a little off now. Tony Thigpen Jeremy Nicoll wrote on 7/21

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
don't bother to convert. I just use the measurement as presented. Tony Thigpen Pew, Curtis G wrote on 7/21/20 12:28 PM: On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David Spiegel wrote: "... 100 knots is about 55mph ..." Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's actually

Re: Sending email from the Mainframe

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
We found it easier to set up a small SMTP relay box on an Intel platform and let it do all the TLS heavy lifting. Tony Thigpen Sasso, Len wrote on 7/21/20 9:44 AM: We are using CSSMTP to send email from the Mainframe. All our messages must implement TLS 1.2 or higher for transport level

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
, I add 10 to, or maybe 20 if I am on an interstate highway.) So, as a USAns (as someone called us), we don't worry about conversion between lengths that much. So, that is why the whole "must be base 10" issue does not matter to me. Tony Thigpen David Crayford wrote on 7/21/20 9:57 A

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
But, what does 3215 support have to do with the fact that z/OS requires a special option on the ICC and can not use the 3270 option on the ICC? Tony Thigpen Lloyd Fuller wrote on 7/21/20 11:37 AM: z/VM and z/VSE allow 3215s as their consoles. z/OS does not. z/OS requires a 3270 full screen

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
I don't ever use SYSC. Hum, I thought that was the 3270 emulation in the HMC that did not use an ICC connection. (I never use the HMC 3270 emulation either.) Maybe I am not understanding the SYSC stuff. Tony Thigpen Christian Svensson wrote on 7/21/20 11:24 AM: +1 on Tony's remark - but I

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
I don't have an answer to that. I know what works and what does not. I never dug into what was different due to the settings. Most likely, it was something not in the specifications that z/OS happened to use, or had added for some reason, to the 3274 long ago. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
on the second port because, IMHO, they are confusing. He had it right even though it looked wrong. Tony Thigpen Brian Westerman wrote on 7/21/20 4:43 AM: The important thing though is that it works as local 3270, and that's what the OP wanted to use it for. Since it will work, there is no good reason

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
es printed inside the box top.) Tony Thigpen Brian Westerman wrote on 7/21/20 4:44 AM: I completely disagree. Why would IBM have two settings in the configuration screen for them, one as a 3270 and the other as a console, if they only wanted you to be able to use consoles? Brian On Mon, 20 J

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
And FINGERing each other??? :-) Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 7/20/20 9:20 PM: IMHO we'd all be better off with Gopher instead of the WWW. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
uot; by association. Sounds like the same thing that happens every season in Paris. The old clothing is "out" and the new clothing is "in". Like I said, "fads". (I wonder if the 'f' in fads should stand for 'French'?) :-) Tony Thigpen Bob Bridges wrote

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
OK. OK, I now see how I was not communicating it correctly. At one point when I was talking about Wikipedia, I started using the term 'google'. And, yes, I was incorrect. I intended to be talking about Wikipedia, not Google. I guess my age is now showing. :-( Tony Thigpen Jeremy Nicoll wrote

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
You have missed the point. Twice. Enough said. Not worth the effort. Tony Thigpen Steve Smith wrote on 7/20/20 8:38 AM: And therefore the question as to what you're talking about. You seem to be conflating a search engine with an online encyclopedia for some reason. So we're left wondering

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
of the 'standard'. Tony Thigpen Martin Packer wrote on 7/20/20 8:13 AM: So you don't rate decimal arithmetic? :-) So how do you explain dollars and cents? :-) Cheers, Martin (GDAR) Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 e

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
was a system to make France the center of the universe. :-) Tony Thigpen Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 7/20/20 12:50 AM: Current international agreement for all new elements is to end them with -ium. Odd how the USA hangs on to impractical learnings. Even the UK moved to SI units while I was at school

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
state to claim authority over the mind. -Joseph Sobran */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 18:19 Personally, I prefer a more authoritative source than Google, but it is almost the sa

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-19 Thread Tony Thigpen
Personally, I prefer a more authoritative source than Google, but it is almost the same story: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/aluminum-vs-aluminium Tony Thigpen Bob Bridges wrote on 7/19/20 6:09 PM: Because I know you were all breathlessly awaiting the verdict on the great

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-19 Thread Tony Thigpen
roots which was the 3274 emulation in the P370, P390 and the MP3000. Tony Thigpen Christian Svensson wrote on 7/19/20 8:40 AM: Thanks for the input folks. Brian: I have it working just fine, the setup was easy as you said - the reason I started this thread was because I couldn't understand why

Re: COBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
Incorrect. The abacus is not a computer, it is a "calculating tool". The computer using the calculating tool is the human brain. If the Abacus is a computer, so is a pencil and paper where we use tally marks. Wayne, you are starting to make everyone doubt your sanity. :-) Tony Thig

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
time COBOL was designed, thus the choice was proper and your view ignores the history of computing at the time COBOL was written. Tony Thigpen Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 7/18/20 7:52 PM: Bob, David didn't say there were languages that did "moves". He said that there are several languages that i

Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior

2020-07-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
Christian, IMHO: For use as an OSA-C, the second port is of minimal use. About the only good use is to attach a local non-routable lan segment so that local consoles can be isolated from your main network so that the network people do not mess with your z/OS consoles. Tony Thigpen

Re: COBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
p" in linux is not a valid example as those are file management commands, not data manipulation verbs as used in programming languages. And, to get back to the original statement by someone that Cobol is not English because of the use of MOVE instead of COPY is just silly. Tony Thigpe

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-16 Thread Tony Thigpen
COPY instead of MOVE. Tony Thigpen Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 7/16/20 11:01 PM: COBOL fails at MOVE. It's a COPY. Maybe they should have said REPLICATE, since COPY was already taken. So, not good English. On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:46 PM Tony Thigpen wrote: I agree with Clark. In addition

Re: OOBOL and English was Re: Still COBOL After All These Years?

2020-07-16 Thread Tony Thigpen
end when it came to support. Tony Thigpen Clark Morris wrote on 7/16/20 10:16 PM: [Default] On 16 Jul 2020 10:34:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: The claim that COBOL is English like is every bit as bogus as the claim that rewriting existing COBOL

Re: Mainframe co-op

2020-07-04 Thread Tony Thigpen
be a requirement. Again, just some initial thoughts. Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

What is the real size of a 3390-27 and 3390-54

2020-07-02 Thread Tony Thigpen
know that when you use the DSCLI, you can specify any number of cylinders. What I don't know is what the old GUI did. So, some questions: 1) What size is a mod-27 in your shop? 2) Was your DASD allocated using the DSCLI or the GUI? -- Tony Thigpen

Re: Hitachi RAID box going out of support

2020-06-26 Thread Tony Thigpen
r services. For example, I currently support one client still on OS/390, but I am running him on a z10 attached to a 1 year old DS8880. (FYI, We only use real z-boxes, this is not some M$ emulated platform.) If you want to talk, contact me off-list. Tony Thigpen Nightwatch RenBand wrote on 6/25/20 3:

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
The point being that they were using a standard for type of communications, usenet, and trying to apply it to another form of communication, email. For me, the second I see a bottom post, is the same second I close the email and go to the next in my inbox. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
quot; said something when he really said the opposite. And, the big problem is that they were right. Too many people take the statements out of context to tear someone else down build themselves up. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 6/13/20 7:54 PM: Some places won't accept HTML in

Re: Quote style (was: ... Passive FTP ... )

2020-06-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
t and had really become more of the standard. I bet we all know programmers that "know better than us". (Or, should I be looking in a mirror?) :-) Tony Thigpen Bob Bridges wrote on 6/13/20 1:46 PM: Wait - is bottom-posting a thing? I've always assumed that bottom-posters are just care

Re: Gratuitous EXECIO Documentation

2020-06-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
To say it another way. Normally the use of quotes around a variable will *break* the code. With EXECIO, use of quotes will *fix* the code. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 6/5/20 2:29 PM: No, the problem is not an understanding of how REXX evaluates expressions. The problem is that EXECIO

Re: Gratuitous EXECIO Documentation

2020-06-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
No, the problem is not an understanding of how REXX evaluates expressions. The problem is that EXECIO is one of the few places that a variable NAME is an operand, not the variable CONTENTS. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 6/5/20 2:11 PM: Your statement implies that "some

Re: Gratuitous EXECIO Documentation

2020-06-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
ut quotes can result in unpredictable results. I really think this is the root problem, not the fact that someone defined a variable with the same name as a common keyword, such as your example with "STEM". Such an example is just part of the language restriction and not directly rela

Re: Gratuitous EXECIO Documentation

2020-06-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
ogramming errors in REXX" list. I have seen the following error S many times: ... "STEM" line. Which should be: ... "STEM LINE." I would not consider this "gratuitous" documentation. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 6/5/20 11:29 AM: In: https://www.i

Rocket Passport failure

2020-05-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
something about how Passport handles the keyboard that might get me toward an answer? Thanks, -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: An older device query - still using??

2020-05-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
). The VTOC design was also used in the Optical Media Attach Feature, which was actually 'emulated' on the P360/P390 in the AWSOMA dirver. (All "facts" subject to dropped memory bits due to old age.) Tony Thigpen R.S. wrote on 5/13/20 6:59 PM: I just checked bitsavers and found

Re: An older device query - still using??

2020-05-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
manual feed. Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 5/13/20 12:17 PM: How do you emulate an input hopper? The 3540 wasn't a simple 8" floppy drive; it had a feeder so you could read a string of diskettes with no manual intervention between them. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: An older device query - still using??

2020-05-13 Thread Tony Thigpen
The 4331 had an internal diskette drive (accessed from the top of the cpu) that emulated a 3540. It was the same drive as used for IML. We also had one attached to our System-3/15D. Tony Thigpen R.S. wrote on 5/13/20 10:55 AM: Excuse me, what is IBM 3540? This is mainframe forum so I checked

Re: An older device query - still using??

2020-05-12 Thread Tony Thigpen
ame is hazy?) which handled the check disposition decisions. Then, on a less time critical manner, the 360 send the output data up to the "real" mainframe were it was processed by the check handling software. The special interrupt line (that supported the 1419) was dropped a *LONG* ti

Re: Here we go again

2020-04-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
Expanding the SSN or changing it to alpha-numeric would be another Y2K. While the private sector might get it done, there is no way that the government sector could get it done in 20 years with all the red-tape they have to go though. Tony Thigpen Timothy Sipples wrote on 4/22/20 1:43 AM

Re: SSN values (was Here we go again)

2020-04-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
is... (Just like we knew in the 80's that Y2K would be upon us 'down the road'.) Tony Thigpen Ken Smith wrote on 4/21/20 1:38 PM: 9 characters with 10 possible values = 10 to the 9th = 999,999,999 aka = 1 billion. Allow one position to be alphanumeric adds what? Does position matter? Thought 10

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-06 Thread Tony Thigpen
in town back then, not even Taco Bell (if you call it Mexican) so nobody really spoke Spanish. (FYI, he was from Mexico, moved to the US, served in the Army, married a girl from Alabama and was most-likely the only real Mexican in 200 miles. He did get his citizenship while I knew him.) Tony

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Tony Thigpen
. It's not just the language not being taught, it's the "works with others" (as in my program with your program) that is foreign to the kids. Tony Thigpen Gerhard adam wrote on 4/5/20 4:12 PM: COBOL is not taught because those that know it can make a much bett

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
ompression was determined. Tony Thigpen Boy, am I getting old. Farley, Peter x23353 wrote on 3/30/20 7:54 PM: That was an interesting and probably true VSAM story, or at least very easy to believe true. I had a similar exposure to the "original" VSAM design from a lecturer in an "Oper

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
responsibility to lock/unlock, not the OS. The OS handled it the lock/unlock/wait in DOS/VS). He tried to get them to do it right later, but powers that be said it was out and could no longer be changed.) Tony Thigpen Charles Mills wrote on 3/30/20 6:00 PM: Not beating up on VSE. ("

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
simply by having in the jcl, like in z/OS. You have to open it to create it. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 3/30/20 11:05 AM: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:11:53 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: Coming from the z/VSE world, some of the JCL stuff in z/OS just is 'weird'. I understand that in z/VSE tne

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 3/30/20 9:57 AM: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:29:35 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: Actually, it makes sense to me, in a strange way. I don't know if I can describe why it makes sense, but I will try. 1) An // EXEC card is read and a 'step' begins. The // EXEC card

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Tony Thigpen
Now, why it worked without PARMDD is because the '// EXEC' is processed and intrepreted before all the "let's get the step stuff now" logic (step 2 above). Like I say, hard to describe. Tony Thigpen Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred) wrote on 3/30/20 7:50 AM: Based on the doc I expected thes

Re: Upwards Compatibility of Code in Z series Boxes

2020-03-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
I recently did a z/VSE to z/OS conversion. There were assembler programs that were not recompiled in 50 years. Yes, fifty years. They were still running. Also, they were written to use ISAM and they were currently using the ISAM transparency feature of VSAM to read/write KSDS file. Tony

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-23 Thread Tony Thigpen
paperwork. Tony Thigpen R.S. wrote on 3/23/20 9:50 AM: I don't remember when I observed pagers in US last time, but it was definitely after 2000, maybe 2002 or 2004. Earlier I observed many IT folks equipped with the pager, not the cell phone. Note: it's nothing wrong, it is just a difference which

Re: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-23 Thread Tony Thigpen
Just because we can, does not mean we should. :-) Tony Thigpen Timothy Sipples wrote on 3/22/20 11:51 PM: Paul Gilmartin wrote: Do you mean that VPN clients for mainframe are rare? Tony Thigpen wrote: I would not even think about a VPN client for the mainframe. Too late, Tony

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
I would not even think about a VPN client for the mainframe. Go with the purpose built routers that can be very cost effective. You can get a pair of Ubiquity ER-X VPN capable routers for about $100. Tony Thigpen Paul Gilmartin wrote on 3/20/20 9:58 PM: On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:42:20 -0400

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-19 Thread Tony Thigpen
is they are getting a big load right now and it may take them time to scale up. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 3/19/20 12:45 PM: On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Bridges wrote: I've been working from home for the past ten years or so, and haven't found it boring yet. But that's jus

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
, etc. I don't know if someone is interested in converting it. Tony Thigpen Tomasz Rola wrote on 3/17/20 1:53 PM: On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:50:53PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote: I've got manuals much older than that. If I could get them scanned for bitsavers then I'd have no interest in keeping

Re: CAS9

2020-03-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
I too use Dana's MPF2REXX code and use MPF for both auto-responses and new commands, at least on my z/OS systems. I use TSSO on my OS/390 system. I really appreciate Dana's code. And the help she gave when I went to use it. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 3/11/20 7:45 AM: On Tue, Mar 10

Re: CAS9 - JOBZDOIT source

2020-03-10 Thread Tony Thigpen
Normally, when I post code, the first response is "you did this wrong". This is the first time I got a copyright issue question. Did my code past the "picky programmers test" this time? :-) Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 3/10/20 5:39 PM: Me being an idiot,

Re: CAS9 - JOBZDOIT source

2020-03-10 Thread Tony Thigpen
party to another party. Tony Thigpen John McKown wrote on 3/10/20 5:39 PM: Me being an idiot, is using this source a commercial business in compliance with this license? It might be covered by "NOT-FOR-PROFIT PURPOSES", but in a sense, it is FOR PROFIT if a commercial company uses

Re: CAS9 - JOBZDOIT source

2020-03-10 Thread Tony Thigpen
See attached source. I purposefully kept it as simple as I could. I don't like complicated stuff during IPL or shutdown. I also know that someone following me that has to maintain the program would prefer that I did things simply. Tony Thigpen Nai, Dean wrote on 3/10/20 9:23 AM

Re: CAS9

2020-03-10 Thread Tony Thigpen
I will post. Let me put some doc in it. Tony Thigpen Nai, Dean wrote on 3/10/20 9:23 AM: The assembler code would be great: dean@doit.nh.gov On 3/10/20, 9:17 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tony Thigpen" wrote: EXTERNAL: Do not open a

Re: CAS9

2020-03-10 Thread Tony Thigpen
WAITDOWN 010 JES2 I am able to share the basic assembler code. There is nothing fancy in it. Tony Thigpen Nai, Dean wrote on 3/10/20 8:20 AM: Currently we use CAS9 to start and stop everything during an IPL. CA will be going away so I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on other cheap or free

Re: IPL...

2020-03-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
Finished just a bit ago. But, I do it from home. OS/390 2.10 z/OS 1.13 multiple z/VMs multiple z/VSEs under z/VM While z/VM and z/VSE can be done dynamically, but it is easier to just IPL and not worry about any unexpected problems. Same for z/OS. It takes less than 5 min per LPAR. Tony

Re: VSE related questions - VSAMIO on VSE

2020-02-29 Thread Tony Thigpen
There was a vendor that promised Java on VSE about 8 years ago. But, just like other things his company promised over the years, nothing ever came of it. Tony Thigpen W Mainframe wrote on 2/29/20 12:21 PM: Lovely VSE...I am still working on different VSE projects and I am sirry about

Re: VSE related questions - VSAMIO on VSE

2020-02-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
Just for the record, the REXX developer for IBM in 2001 was Ursula Braun-Krahl. I believe she retired. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 2/28/20 5:51 PM: There have been a lot of cases where z/OS was behind z/VSE. First, a CA level backup/restore program for VSAM that was offered to z/OS

Re: VSE related questions - VSAMIO on VSE

2020-02-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
cross-partition communications using CICS as a FOR/DOR. And, it's all IBM code that could be ported to z/OS is the z/OS developers would get off their high-horses and ask for the code. Tony Thigpen Farley, Peter x23353 wrote on 2/28/20 5:11 PM: Dang it, how is it that the fine VSE developers

Re: VSE related questions

2020-02-28 Thread Tony Thigpen
did the same thing, but did it differently using an output 'subsystem'. Then, IBM had to catch up, but they again did it differently. They have continued to diverge. Tony Thigpen Bernd Oppolzer wrote on 2/28/20 3:38 PM: Hello list, I have some VSE related questions, and I have not been succes

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
rogrammers does mean that they are old and worn out. It just means that the younger programmers are taking a different path. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 2/27/20 10:46 AM: Now, that is a bunch of BS. Old timers do want to learn new things, but... Our minds have been trained over many year

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Tony Thigpen
look at 'logic'. Regular Expressions are more 'magic' than 'logic'. :-) My boss a favorite expression when things conflict with previous training: "My just hurts my brain!" I can say positively that I tried to understand Regular Expressions and all it did was make my brain hu

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
"regular expressions". What a misnamed item. It should be called "geek readable only expressions". :-) Tony Thigpen David Crayford wrote on 2/25/20 8:03 AM: What you really need is regular expressions ;) https://github.com/daveyc/RTK On 2020-02-25 7:47 PM, Ambros,

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
parms = "aaa bbb ccc ) ddd eee" options = '' localopts = '' If this might happen, you would need: parse value arg with part1 ')' localopts parse var part1 parms ')' options parse var parms parm1 parm2 parm3 parm4 parm5 . parse var options opt1 opt2 opt3 opt4 opt5 opt6 . parse var localopts

Re: Help with CA Software renewal - Resolution

2020-02-20 Thread Tony Thigpen
Thanks to everyone that gave me information. We are now in contact with our sales rep. Tony Thigpen Tony Thigpen wrote on 2/18/20 5:10 PM: We are having all kinds of problems trying to get a price to renew our CA software. A couple of times now, we have been given a person to contact

Help with CA Software renewal

2020-02-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
We are having all kinds of problems trying to get a price to renew our CA software. A couple of times now, we have been given a person to contact, but then, as we start the conversation, the person is suddenly no longer with CA. -- Tony Thigpen

Re: Finding and replying to outstanding reply

2020-02-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
The shutdown is authorized to do anything it wants. :-) Tony Thigpen Seymour J Metz wrote on 2/11/20 11:47 AM: Are you authorized to use the CONSOLE service to issue commands and retrieve output? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: [External] Finding and replying to outstanding reply

2020-02-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
I was trying to avoid that out to principle. Tony Thigpen Pommier, Rex wrote on 2/11/20 8:40 AM: I know this is brute force, but would it work to simply cancel NPF? Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020

Finding and replying to outstanding reply

2020-02-11 Thread Tony Thigpen
program instead of using MPF/SysREXX. Thoughts? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Downsizing? - OPS?

2020-02-08 Thread Tony Thigpen
not support SYSREXX. I use both on our customer's systems. Both have zero recurring costs after the conversion. Tony Thigpen proZglobal 407-474-0770 Gibney, Dave wrote on 2/6/20 8:59 PM: The direction is clearly set. My z/OS 2.1 installation is heading for a sunset, sometime in the next several

Re: 3592-E07

2020-01-31 Thread Tony Thigpen
Radoslaw, I think you don't understand RPO correctly. read: https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storage-management/rpo-and-rto-understanding-the-differences.html Tony Thigpen R.S. wrote on 1/31/20 11:24 AM: W dniu 31.01.2020 o 07:07, Timothy Sipples pisze: Radoslaw Skorupka wrote

Re: 3592-E07

2020-01-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
We are using Ken's Visara VTL solution and are very happy with it. Tony Thigpen Ken Bloom wrote on 1/21/20 3:10 PM: Hi Dean VTS solutions are not as expensive as you think they are depending on the amount of storage and number of channels required. Besides the vastly improved performance

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