Re: OT: Cops pull over driverless car
.. wasn't the car armoured? On 2015-11-13 9:11 PM, Ed Gould wrote: I was surprised that the cop didn't shoot the car. Ed On Nov 13, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Watch the wrap. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/11992795/Police-pull-over-Googles-d riverless-car-for-driving-too-slowly.html Police pull over Google's driverless car for driving too slowly Officer in Mountain View, California, stops internet giant's self-driving car after it was found driving 11 mph under the speed limit Lizette Koehler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
A Data Studio question
Should I ask this on the DB2 forum, if so, how do I register? Sorry if dumb question .. am about to download/install Data Studio 4.1.1 and in the Quick Start Guide I find .. Step 5: Get started with the product 1. Set up the Data Studio web console. If you did not install the web console and plan to connect to a web console that is installed on a different computer, you can skip this step. a. If you did not run the Data Studio Configuration Assistant after the installation to configure the Data Studio web console, open it from the Start menu by clicking Configure the Data Studio web console. b. Open the web console in your browser and then log in as the default administrative user that you created with the Data Studio Configuration Assistant. c. From the Task Launcher, complete the appropriate getting started tasks for your environment. If you plan to share the web console with other users, select a repository database and configure user access to it. Found the instructions at 1. difficult to interpret. Assume: I 'did install the web console'. Question: should I do a. b. and c.? Please, thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Points taken Tim. Hadn't seen that link before. Thanks kindly. On 2015-04-16 4:38 PM, Tim Hare wrote: I don't think you want to sell this as 'mainframe'. I think you want to sell this as 'Enterprise class, cost-saving, Linux virtualization box'... the server folk have already attached negative connotations to the 'mainframe' word in management's mind. Presenting the cost savings (especially if you run Oracle licenses on the farm) from consolidating onto one big box is something IBM is doing all over the place and they should be glad to help. You probably have it, but here's a link to a box that is built to do z/VM with virtual Linux http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/els.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Noted, thanks. On 2015-04-16 6:15 PM, Linda Hagedorn wrote: Remember IBM's Master The Mainframe Contest students. In addition to making a z platform case, there's a fresh group of trained kids available every year. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Points taken Tim. Hadn't seen that link before. Thanks kindly. On 2015-04-16 4:38 PM, Tim Hare wrote: I don't think you want to sell this as 'mainframe'. I think you want to sell this as 'Enterprise class, cost-saving, Linux virtualization box'... the server folk have already attached negative connotations to the 'mainframe' word in management's mind. Presenting the cost savings (especially if you run Oracle licenses on the farm) from consolidating onto one big box is something IBM is doing all over the place and they should be glad to help. You probably have it, but here's a link to a box that is built to do z/VM with virtual Linux http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/els.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Thanks kindly. On 2015-04-16 8:53 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Ibm vendor disclosure meeting. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity Original message From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net Date: 04/16/2015 7:38 PM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers What's 'TDM' in Poughkeepsie? On 2015-04-16 6:16 AM, John Abell wrote: Hi, Thanks. I believe Mike Baldwin sent you a note. He is originally from Kingsville. I will talk with him this morning as we sit beside each other at the TDM. Yours truly, John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers John, Our seven municipalities (including Kingsville) plus County are server farms and getting bigger .. sez it all:-) . All the personnel are farm oriented, few, if any, have any idea of mainframe capabilities. Concept is consolidate but being on my own, am looking for local, flesh bearing mainframe bigots to work with me. Graham On 2015-04-15 9:36 PM, John Abell wrote: Ok. I am in Toronto if that helps. I also have a sister-in-law in Kingsville. Let me know if I can provide anything. I would be interested in why the proposal for a mainframe since I have been with the mainframe since the first 360 Model 40 at Massey-Ferguson in 1967. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers Hi John, Thanks for the thought, am already in touch with IBM. Am trying to find my old mainframe mates in Windsor to help the cause. Not looking good:'( Graham On 2015-04-15 2:01 PM, John Abell wrote: I am at the Spring z Systems TDM in Poughkeepsie NY with IBM and 3 Compuwarians. I will run this by some IBMers here and see where we get. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
What's 'TDM' in Poughkeepsie? On 2015-04-16 6:16 AM, John Abell wrote: Hi, Thanks. I believe Mike Baldwin sent you a note. He is originally from Kingsville. I will talk with him this morning as we sit beside each other at the TDM. Yours truly, John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers John, Our seven municipalities (including Kingsville) plus County are server farms and getting bigger .. sez it all:-) . All the personnel are farm oriented, few, if any, have any idea of mainframe capabilities. Concept is consolidate but being on my own, am looking for local, flesh bearing mainframe bigots to work with me. Graham On 2015-04-15 9:36 PM, John Abell wrote: Ok. I am in Toronto if that helps. I also have a sister-in-law in Kingsville. Let me know if I can provide anything. I would be interested in why the proposal for a mainframe since I have been with the mainframe since the first 360 Model 40 at Massey-Ferguson in 1967. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers Hi John, Thanks for the thought, am already in touch with IBM. Am trying to find my old mainframe mates in Windsor to help the cause. Not looking good:'( Graham On 2015-04-15 2:01 PM, John Abell wrote: I am at the Spring z Systems TDM in Poughkeepsie NY with IBM and 3 Compuwarians. I will run this by some IBMers here and see where we get. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:59 PM
Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Folks, Hope I'm doing this right. I don't think there's any IBM mainframes in Windsor anymore but am looking for any dinosaurs who might be cajoled into help develop/present a mainframe case at County level. cheers, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Am in touch with IBM NY but was looking for old mainframe buddies in Windsor .. seems they're not on IBM-MAIN. On 2015-04-15 1:58 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:58:50 -0400, Graham Hobbs wrote: I don't think there's any IBM mainframes in Windsor anymore I don't know if there are either, but if I stand up at my desk and look to the south I can see Windsor across the river. There are still mainframes in Detroit. looking for any dinosaurs who might be cajoled into help develop/present a mainframe case at County level. Depending on what you have in mind, you might be able to get Compuware to help. And what about IBM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
John, Our seven municipalities (including Kingsville) plus County are server farms and getting bigger .. sez it all:-) . All the personnel are farm oriented, few, if any, have any idea of mainframe capabilities. Concept is consolidate but being on my own, am looking for local, flesh bearing mainframe bigots to work with me. Graham On 2015-04-15 9:36 PM, John Abell wrote: Ok. I am in Toronto if that helps. I also have a sister-in-law in Kingsville. Let me know if I can provide anything. I would be interested in why the proposal for a mainframe since I have been with the mainframe since the first 360 Model 40 at Massey-Ferguson in 1967. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers Hi John, Thanks for the thought, am already in touch with IBM. Am trying to find my old mainframe mates in Windsor to help the cause. Not looking good:'( Graham On 2015-04-15 2:01 PM, John Abell wrote: I am at the Spring z Systems TDM in Poughkeepsie NY with IBM and 3 Compuwarians. I will run this by some IBMers here and see where we get. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:58:50 -0400, Graham Hobbs wrote: I don't think there's any IBM mainframes in Windsor anymore I don't know if there are either, but if I stand up at my desk and look to the south I can see Windsor across the river. There are still mainframes in Detroit. looking for any dinosaurs who might be cajoled into help develop/present a mainframe case at County level. Depending on what you have in mind, you might be able to get Compuware to help. And what about IBM? -- Tom Marchant Abend-AID development Compuware -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- For IBM-MAIN
Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers
Hi John, Thanks for the thought, am already in touch with IBM. Am trying to find my old mainframe mates in Windsor to help the cause. Not looking good:'( Graham On 2015-04-15 2:01 PM, John Abell wrote: I am at the Spring z Systems TDM in Poughkeepsie NY with IBM and 3 Compuwarians. I will run this by some IBMers here and see where we get. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Windsor, Ontario, Canada mainframers On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:58:50 -0400, Graham Hobbs wrote: I don't think there's any IBM mainframes in Windsor anymore I don't know if there are either, but if I stand up at my desk and look to the south I can see Windsor across the river. There are still mainframes in Detroit. looking for any dinosaurs who might be cajoled into help develop/present a mainframe case at County level. Depending on what you have in mind, you might be able to get Compuware to help. And what about IBM? -- Tom Marchant Abend-AID development Compuware -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Standard IBM Enterprise COBOL Service to convert ASCII to EBCDIC
Seconded. All the business systems in the world seem to work just fine so they must have been written by systems programmers:-D On 2015-04-13 9:21 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Sorry for this rant but I just had to step in on this conversation. That is the most hoary, antiquated, and prejudiced set of statements about application programmers that I think I have ever seen you make. I remember making stupid mistakes when I was a junior programmer and needing to ask for the systems programmer's help, but to bring up that dumb 0C7 example is just dredging up ancient history of application programming people as they MAY have been but were never ALL alike. In my experience, most of the COBOL application programmers who are left working today (and I must admit there are fewer and fewer of us every day) are both reasonably bright and very experienced in using the tools that earn them their living. Do they know the latest CS paradigms and theories? Not always (some do!), but they can program the daylights out of a business application need, and get it done on time and with high-quality regression testing done too. Knowing how to use COBOL FUNCTION intrinsics to translate text to or from ASCII or any other code page is not rocket science, it is just normal business programming. Please get off that ridiculously high systems programmer horse of yours and join us here in the 21st century. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Standard IBM Enterprise COBOL Service to convert ASCII to EBCDIC Ze'ev: Because in most cases programmers are less than lets say bright. If you bring up ASCII you will only confuse them. I suspect they will try and use it in some sort of horrendous fashion, like convert to ASCII and then back. To give you an idea how stupid programmers can be a S0C7 turns into a tech support issue as the system said it was a 0C7 so it is a systems issue. Thats how bad some programmers are. Ed -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Municipal mainframe practical (what I meant to send)
Timothy, Thanks for your comments. Am in touch with IBM. Your questions: Has any municipality IT, having grown from nothing, likely to be anything but server farm/Unix/Microsoft (you know what I mean) plus off the shelf packages. DR - what's that .. you mean backup? I would guess our 7 have different packaged software performing same functionality; likely some duplication .. equalling masses of data stored in a multitude of proprietary ways:-( .. a behemoth. And one needs to convince 7 IT/Council empires .. can the convincing be incremental? Am truly hoping IBM has the 'methodology' to bring us an evolution .. our A'burg muni has a debt/reserves ratio around 25:1 .. is gross .. the others are much better off than us. In the end I worry that politics will override savings! Graham On 2015-03-05 12:59 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Also recommend you contact both the IBM people who chimed in. Not me -- I'm in Singapore and may be groggy when you call at your reasonable time. :-) However, to give you a few more lines of investigation from afar 1. What are they running on those Windows-based servers (and on any other servers)? What sort of applications (in terms of runtimes, in particular) and middleware products? 2. If there are 7 municipalities, and (by implication) 7+ primary data centers, are there are also at least 7 secondary (DR) centers? Or is DR inadequate? 3. Are the 7 municipalities providing services 7 different ways -- they have 7 different applications for substantial the same service, in other words? With 7 different application development and/or support teams? Or do they have substantial agreement on applications? The answers to these questions (and a few others) would be helpful in trying to understand better and best alternatives, if any. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Municipal mainframe practical (what I meant to send)
Hi Mitch, Am about to chat with Raj Datta tomorrow. The more stories I hear about consolidation the more encouraged I am. Just makes sense. Graham On 2015-03-05 7:35 AM, Mitch wrote: Hello again: I am in the U.S. (Central Time Zone), so reach out at your convenience. I recently returned from Australia where I was involved in a government project to migrate 20 data centers into 2. This type of project is not new to us, obviously. Regards, Mitchell R. Mccluhan Application Modernization Consultant Digital Modernization Services 254-598-4642 - U.S. office 916-271-6575 - U.S. mobile 916-718-8910 - IBM mobile 04 759 16272 - Australian mobile mitc...@us.ibm.com -Original Message- From: Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thu, Mar 5, 2015 12:01 am Subject: Re: Municipal mainframe practical (what I meant to send) Also recommend you contact both the IBM people who chimed in. Not me -- I'm in Singapore and may be groggy when you call at your reasonable time. :-) However, to give you a few more lines of investigation from afar 1. What are they running on those Windows-based servers (and on any other servers)? What sort of applications (in terms of runtimes, in particular) and middleware products? 2. If there are 7 municipalities, and (by implication) 7+ primary data centers, are there are also at least 7 secondary (DR) centers? Or is DR inadequate? 3. Are the 7 municipalities providing services 7 different ways -- they have 7 different applications for substantial the same service, in other words? With 7 different application development and/or support teams? Or do they have substantial agreement on applications? The answers to these questions (and a few others) would be helpful in trying to understand better and best alternatives, if any. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Municipal mainframe practicality
This request stems from serious high order ignorance. Am retired mainframer app developer totally upset by our municipal IT budget (over $1M, largely salaries), using a server farm hardware/software scenario. In our county there are seven municipalities, likely server farm setups, total IT budget likely $5-7M. Visualizing our County building as home base and seeing the new IBM 114 mainframe out there for $75K is easy to spot (and guestimate extra to suit our needs) .. not easy is the $'s for an OS/other vital IBM software .. like how much? After that it becomes a question of a) off the shelf municipal software, b) inhouse programmers, c) a combo. Clearly there is so much missing info from myself .. nevertheless .. might it be a $ practical situation worth pursuing .. a central mainframe/software for $5? Thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Municipal mainframe practical (what I meant to send)
getting old, sent the incomplete one .. Folks, This request stems from serious high order ignorance. Am retired mainframer app developer very upset by our municipal IT budget ($1M, 40% salaries, 22% computer maintenance), using a Windows based server farm hardware/software scenario. In our County there are seven municipalities, likely server farm setups, total IT budget likely $4-7M, total staff likely 20-25. a) visualizing our County building as mainframe home, b) seeing a $75K IBM 114 mainframe out there, c) based on our needs, guesstimating our mainframe cost might be up to $200K, d) here's my problem .. software costs .. I can find no yardstick on vital IBM software $'s. After that comes a) telecommunications costs, b) off the shelf municipal software solution, c) inhouse programmers, d) combo of b and c, e) what have I missed? Clearly there are tons of unknowns here .. nevertheless .. might it be a $ practical situation worth pursuing .. a central mainframe for $5M, $2M? .. ballpark .. how much? .. suggest where I start? Thanks, be nice Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Force indivdual job to ABEND on LINES EXCEEDED
Why is it a PITA? Is there a typical value you use on the OUTLIM? Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs On 11/03/2014 3:14 PM, John McKown wrote: I use OUTLIM on the individual SYSOUT= statements to force an S722. But that can be PITA. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com wrote: It appears that there is no JCL option for an individual job that can be enabled to cause the job to terminate when /*JOBPARM LINES=10 is used and the job has produced 10,001 lines of output. I can only find references to JES2 EXIT 9 where the decision is made for lines exceeded. I never needed this before, but then I never completely filled my spool before with a runaway job. The circumvention was to point SYSOUT file to a CYL(1) disk file and force the B37 ABEND to get control of the job and to read the log messages. Barry Merrill Herbert W. Barry Merrill, PhD President-Programmer MXG Software Merrill Consultants 10717 Cromwell Drive Dallas, TX 75229 ba...@mxg.com http://www.mxg.com - FAQ has Most Answers ad...@mxg.com - invoices/PO/Payment supp...@mxg.com- technical tel: 214 351 1966 - expect slow reply, use email fax: 214 350 3694 - prefer email, still works -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SYSB-II
Is this it http://www.csi-international.com because I got'this page cant be displayed' On 07/02/2014 4:48 PM, Jim Thomas wrote: Folks, Forgive me if this sounds like a sales or marketing call ... but ... I do own a product that does the same as SYSB-II does and IMHO, better. If interested, take a look at VSHARE from CSI-International. Kind Regards. Jim Thomas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSB-II I'm going to cross post to the CICS list -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 1:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSB-II Thank you. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSB-II Mike, Our company uses SYSB almost exactly as John McKown described how it is used at his company. We have one production CICS region and we see its CPU utilization percentage rise when multiple jobs using SYSB are running. As Systems Programmers, we have to be mindful of how our Applications Programmers have coded their procs when they use SYSB. There are parameters available so that SYSB will not lock records in CICS if they haven't been updated, or can perform the VSAM reads in the batch job and only send the VSAM updates to CICS. We work with the programmers to incorporate these parms when they seem beneficial. HW has been good about reviewing output from batch jobs and suggesting ways to improve utilization, which has helped us immensely. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU I know this is loading a gun :), but do any of you have any opinion on the SYSB-II product? Is detrimental to CICS? Is it a memory hog? Is it a CPU hog? And for those of you who use it. How does it perform in a zSystem environment? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN == This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN == This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this message by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Resistance to Java.
What of GNU COBOL? Is free. Graham Hobbs On 22/01/2014 4:48 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: I imagine one could use Micro Focus COBOL and its JVM support. I suppose mainframe file I/O might be a problem, though. There's also this: http://www.veryant.com/products/iscobol/cobol-compiler.php. There was also one called PERCobol from LegacyJ, but I can't find their website, so it may have gone the way of the dodo. I've not tried any of them. From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Resistance to Java. On 22 January 2014 08:36, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: Now wouldn't that be a kick? An Enterprise COBOL compatible compiler which produced Java byte code. That would likely sell a lot of zAAPs. Don't think it hasn't been seriously considered by more than one party... But as with any number of other such approaches, it would be limited by its own success. If it managed to displace any significant amount of IBM revenue by shifting legacy workloads to cheaper processors, IBM would put a stop to it, either technically or by new Ts Cs of some sort. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Resistance to Java.
Is Graham Harris talking about what I use? Haven't got time to dig. If you mean the GNU COBOL compiler, I installed it on a W7. Partial agony, but it works well, no CICS emulation yet. BUT for you Linuxy types all the gurus there are that way inclined:-). URL I access is http://sourceforge.net/p/open-cobol/discussion/ Graham On 22/01/2014 7:34 PM, John McKown wrote: I'm going to look at that. Not for z/OS use, but for me on my Linux/Intel system. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Graham Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: http://sourceforge.net/projects/universalcobol/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1
Is the macro language still C? - Original Message - From: Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set-software.de Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:18 AM Subject: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1 Steve, I don't know what's wrong with SPFPRO on Win 8, but maybe it is time for a change. You may want to have a look at SPF/365 (well known as SPF/SE) that is now selled at a much more reduced price. The subscription for one year is at 25 $ US (you can use it after the year, but you get no more updates and no support)... See http://www.commandtechnology.com/ In my optinion it is much better than SPFLite (http://spflite.co.nr/) (because of the integrated Macro language - I use it a lot!) which is selled at 25 $ US, too. I personally use SPF/SE with the font of Tom Brennan's Vista TN3270 and it looks so fu* great ;-) Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Future of COBOL based on RDz policies
Timothy, I have raised this RDz and COBOL compiler issue in the past so thanks for the pointers. First, the Windows7/XP options, I am aware. The Rational Development and Test Environment for System z (RDTE) suggestion is new to me and absolutely without my means. Why on earth would I, Partnerworld developer, or any small developer, exchange a $900/year Software Access Catalogue subscription which gave me my COBOL compiler (which is ALL I need), for RDTE at $8,760 (just for starters) with its multitudes of unwanted compilers, lah-de-dahs, etc. I have a TV package just like that. I looked for RDTE in the Software Access Catalogue. It's not there. So statements about no PC compilers are true .. sorry, $9000+ would do it. True, I may be able to keep my z/OS destined project going by jerking Windows around or nursing the aging XP laptop with its RDz 7115 compiler. But with all these goings on am discouraged at what's happening .. the oommpff is vanishing. I read the message as: a) anyone in my boat might awkwardly get by, b) new boarders must pony up 9 grand or forget it. Graham Hobbs .. is the urge for z/OS software abating? - Original Message - From: Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: Re: Future of COBOL based on RDz policies IBM COBOL for Windows V7.6 was withdrawn from marketing last year and will be supported through April, 2014. That path arguably wasn't working out so well, so some time ago IBM introduced an alternative compilation option available for RDz, now called Rational Development and Test Environment for System z: http://www.ibm.com/software/products/us/en/ratideveandtestenviforsystz/ This newer path has much greater compilation fidelity for obvious reasons. It also supports all languages, not just a couple. Note that Windows XP Mode is available for Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate. More details are available here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 Timothy Sipples GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers
Thomas, Barry, Sorry to bother you again. Any chance you think/know that RDz 7.6 would run under XP virtual machine? If I downloaded/installed 7.6 (from SAC) do you think IBM may have removed the COBOL compiler? Cheers, Graham - Original Message - From: Thomas Dunlap thomas.dun...@att.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:06 AM Subject: Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers Graham, The issue is not which version of RDz but rather which version of Windows. Even with RDz 7.6 the COBOL compiler would not install on Windows 7. IBM has not made, plus as I understand it, a COBOL compiler which works on Windows 7. I am in the same position, but do have a System z to connect to as a test platform. I too wish I could test locally on Windows 7. Cheers, Thomas Dunlap On 6/18/2013 5:34 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, I have an old XP laptop with RDz 7.1.1.5 and TXSeries 7.1.0.4 and moved to a new Lenovo with Windows 7. There is no need for host connection, my development world is as a standalone, compile/link/run COBOL programs and COBOL/CICS transaction programs on the Lenovo is the critical need. But I understand that Rational Developer for System z V8.5 does not 'do' COBOL on Windows 7 so am thinking my new world should be Rational Developer for zEnterprise V8.0.3 and would appreciate any comments/advice about that. Graham Hobbs -- ___ Regards, Thomas DunlapChief Technology Officert...@themisinc.com Themis, Inc.http://www.themisinc.com1 (800) 756-3000 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers
Another good suggestion. Will do some investigating, so thanks Thomas and Barry. Graham Ruminating only: being smallfry, what use then is RDz/TXSeries if a mainframe is a must. On 19/06/2013 1:26 PM, Thomas Dunlap wrote: Graham, I believe RDz 7.6 does include the COBOL compiler, even 8.0 does. You just have to install and run on XP Pro. I have not tried what Barry mentions, running XP compatible virtual process under Windows 7. I have a co-worker that used it for awhile with mixed results, some things worked and some did not. How about a laptop with dual boot, both XP Pro and Windows 7. Cheers, Thomas Dunlap On 6/19/2013 11:39 AM, Graham Hobbs wrote: Thomas, Barry, Sorry to bother you again. Any chance you think/know that RDz 7.6 would run under XP virtual machine? If I downloaded/installed 7.6 (from SAC) do you think IBM may have removed the COBOL compiler? Cheers, Graham - Original Message - From: Thomas Dunlap thomas.dun...@att.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:06 AM Subject: Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers Graham, The issue is not which version of RDz but rather which version of Windows. Even with RDz 7.6 the COBOL compiler would not install on Windows 7. IBM has not made, plus as I understand it, a COBOL compiler which works on Windows 7. I am in the same position, but do have a System z to connect to as a test platform. I too wish I could test locally on Windows 7. Cheers, Thomas Dunlap On 6/18/2013 5:34 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, I have an old XP laptop with RDz 7.1.1.5 and TXSeries 7.1.0.4 and moved to a new Lenovo with Windows 7. There is no need for host connection, my development world is as a standalone, compile/link/run COBOL programs and COBOL/CICS transaction programs on the Lenovo is the critical need. But I understand that Rational Developer for System z V8.5 does not 'do' COBOL on Windows 7 so am thinking my new world should be Rational Developer for zEnterprise V8.0.3 and would appreciate any comments/advice about that. Graham Hobbs -- ___ Regards, Thomas DunlapChief Technology Officer t...@themisinc.com Themis, Inc.http://www.themisinc.com1 (800) 756-3000 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
RDz or RDzEnterprise developers
Hello, I have an old XP laptop with RDz 7.1.1.5 and TXSeries 7.1.0.4 and moved to a new Lenovo with Windows 7. There is no need for host connection, my development world is as a standalone, compile/link/run COBOL programs and COBOL/CICS transaction programs on the Lenovo is the critical need. But I understand that Rational Developer for System z V8.5 does not 'do' COBOL on Windows 7 so am thinking my new world should be Rational Developer for zEnterprise V8.0.3 and would appreciate any comments/advice about that. Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
DBRMLIB destination PDS
Hello, Am looking for the specs of a dataset into which the output from a COBOL/CICS/SQL //DBRMLIB should go. Have searched docs, can't pin the right one, a pointer would be useful please. I put it in a source file PDS but a browse suggests it should be in a loadlib PDS. Would I be right? Something different? Please, thanks Graham Hobbs e.g. a PDS where I put load members Data class . . . . . : **None** Organization . . . : PO Current Utilization Record format . . . : U Used tracks . . . . : 84 Record length . . . : 0 Used extents . . . : 1 Block size . . . . : 23200 a PDS where I keep source files Data class . . . . . : **None** Organization . . . : PO Current Utilization Record format . . . : FB Used cylinders . . : 2 Record length . . . : 80 Used extents . . . : 1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DBRMLIB destination PDS
It does! Thanks very much. Graham -- On 07/06/2013 1:08 PM, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/NBS) [E] wrote: Does this page dealing with pre-processor files provide the info you're looking for? http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/dzichelp/v2r2/topic/com.ibm.db2z10.doc.apsg/src/tpc/db2z_precompiler_data_sets.htm -Original Message- From: Graham Hobbs [mailto:gho...@cdpwise.net] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DBRMLIB destination PDS Hello, Am looking for the specs of a dataset into which the output from a COBOL/CICS/SQL //DBRMLIB should go. Have searched docs, can't pin the right one, a pointer would be useful please. I put it in a source file PDS but a browse suggests it should be in a loadlib PDS. Would I be right? Something different? Please, thanks Graham Hobbs e.g. a PDS where I put load members Data class . . . . . : **None** Organization . . . : PO Current Utilization Record format . . . : U Used tracks . . . . : 84 Record length . . . : 0 Used extents . . . : 1 Block size . . . . : 23200 a PDS where I keep source files Data class . . . . . : **None** Organization . . . : PO Current Utilization Record format . . . : FB Used cylinders . . : 2 Record length . . . : 80 Used extents . . . : 1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Debug Tool IKJ56228I prob
Hello Barbara, other kind folk, Am not ADCD, am Dallas guest z/OS with seven days left to get Debug working, not a sysprog, User Guide is only 576 pages, Installation Guide similiar:-))). Have dug into EZA111.SEQATLIB, found EQAZDFLT (which refs IGY.SIGYCOMP), EQAZDSYS and EQAZDUSR, seemingly related, very superficially comprehend what's there and have no clue what to do therewith. Tried to edit one of them, wouldn't let me. So am still at .. EQAZ040I 5655-S71 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS started for 'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP 04)' using 'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP04)'. IKJ56228I DATA SET IGY.SIGYCOMP NOT IN CATALOG OR CATALOG CAN NOT BE ACCESSED IKJ56109I DATA SETS NOT CONCATENATED+ IKJ56109I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE DATA SET IGY.SIGYCOMP *** :-(( Sadly expressions like 'pointing at' mean little to me? Have raised the matter with Dallas. Many thanks, Graham -- On 30/05/2013 4:41 AM, ibmmain wrote: Other folks have pointed out that it looks like your sysprog didn't complete the customization of the Program Prep part of Debug Tool to tell it where your copy of the COBOL compiler is (which can be LINKLIST). It appears your system doesn't have it in the default IGY.SIGYCOMP location. Specifically EQAW.SEQATLIB(EQAZDFLT) variable yc1clib. I believe the OP runs on an ADCD system. In that case, IGY.SIGYCOMP (according to IBM standards) isn't called IGY.SIGYCOMP, but rather IGYversion.SIGYCOMP. Of course, after changing the default name, nobody at IBM bothered to test if debug tool still works (nor any of the other tools that assume default names that the ADCD distribution doesn't supply). It wasn't the OP's sysprog, it was IBM 'customization' that got it wrong. I got around that by establishing an alias named IGY.SIGYCOMP that points to the correct data set. Same for PL/1 and a few others (SDSNLOAD springs to mind immediately). Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM Debug Tool IKJ56228I prob
Hello,
Long post - sorry!!
My first try at using the IBM Debug Tool for a COBOL/CICS pgm (no DB2
(that'll be next)), filled out the Program Prep screens (partial
groping), pressed Enter when told, finally got to this ..
Compile using 5655-S71 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS
Input data set: 'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP04)'
Compiler options: TEST(NONE,SYM,SEPARATE) LIB CICS(COBOL3 CICS)
NODYNAM LIB RENT NOSEQ SIZE(4000K) CICS(''COBOL3'')
These data set names were generated using patterns that were specified
in the Edit data set name patterns panel. Override these names by
overtyping. These data sets will be created, if they do not exist
Compilation output data sets:
Listing . 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.LISTING(QKVSP04)'
Object. . 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.OBJECT(QKVSP04)'
SYSDEBUG. 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.SYSDEBUG(QKVSP04)'
SYSTERM . *
CICS Translator and DB2 SQL Processor options (Integrated and separate
Y CICS. . . COBOL3 CICS
N DB2 . . . HOST(COBOL)
N DB2 SQL output DBRM data set (Integrated and Separate):
DBRMLIB :
N Run Separate CICS Translator using these data set names:
Listing .
SYSTERM .
N Run Separate DB2 Precompiler using these data set names:
Listing .
SYSTERM .
.. Enter got me ..
EQAZ040I 5655-S71 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS started for
'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP
04)' using 'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP04)'.
IKJ56228I DATA SET IGY.SIGYCOMP NOT IN CATALOG OR CATALOG CAN NOT BE
ACCESSED
IKJ56109I DATA SETS NOT CONCATENATED+
IKJ56109I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE DATA SET IGY.SIGYCOMP
***
..enter got me..
Allocation Error
Compile using 5655-S71 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS
DB2 Precompiler return code = NOT RUN
CICS Translator return code = NOT RUN
COBOL Compiler return code = NOT RUN
The following data sets were used for this compilation.
Enter E to Edit, V to View, or B to Browse these data sets.
Input . : 'IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP04)'
Compilation output data sets:
Listing : 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.LISTING(QKVSP04)'
Object. : 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.OBJECT(QKVSP04)'
SYSDEBUG: 'IBMUSE2.QKVS.SYSDEBUG(QKVSP04)'
SYSTERM : *
N DB2 SQL output DBRM data set:
DBRMLIB :
N CICS Translator data sets:
Listing :
SYSTERM :
N DB2 Precompiler data sets:
Listing :
SYSTERM :
.. boils down to an Allocation Error I think; looked for IKJ56228I in
z/OS V1R12.0 MVS System Messages Vol 9 (IGF - IWM) but isn't there,
googled but told me little, so possible someone might know where I
messed up?
As usual, please, thanks
Graham Hobbs
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Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Hi Wayne, The software runs non-stop with VSAM input, DB2 stumbled. Trouble is the variety of steps therein are not in this oldtime COBOL/CICS programmers's repertoire so have used 'whatever works' or gleaned from the group. Once done, am hoping to get gurus to help 'put things right'. Upside is that my /last/ problems are with: - the machinations surrounding a single teeny tiny DB2 table, stogroup, database, tablespace, table, permissions? - making Debug tool run - screens to decipher, terminolgy to understand, MANUALS to read:-((( - Expediter used to be just fine. So this evening will become a Debug Tool guru, right after that a DBA:-). Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. Graham -- On 29/05/2013 4:46 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Hi Graham, There isn't much in the way of automation for started tasks such as DB2 and CICS. The Dallas systems are configured from a basic template and all other activities such as started tasks are as you say, achieved by issuing manual start commands. Since you are time constrained, you are probably stuck with manual startup commands. If you have the ADCD VTAM utility VTAMAPPL, you can automate most of these startup commands, for example the DB loadparm member starts DB2, CICS and MQ. We use the AUTO utility for STC startup on Dallas and z/VM EXECS to startup and shutdown to a QUIESCE and CP LOGOFF state. Wayne Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Hi Wayne, DBPROCAG .. co-incidentally it just so happens I can't get to the D2 option via ISPF so wrote to IBM and they tied it to logon with DBPROCAG! However, I can only do what their Ref Guide says which is start DB2 with /-DBAG START DB2 - that's all I know. I don't know what startup proc gets run:-( .. am assuming the start cmd does that. Am waiting to hear from IBM. My system has no manual intervention, it runs in batch mode to do its thing, is designed that way. Any stoppage is bad news. cheers and thanks, Graham -- On 28/05/2013 12:03 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Graham, On most Dallas setups you will have a DBPROCAG for a DBA TSO logon proc. Once logged on you should have the DB2 Admin tool and SPUFI. Most of what you have been doing can be done without running batch jobs. HTH On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Hello Lizette, Got all your pointers about: - EXEC PROC, looking into SDSNLOAD, manual refs, installation step 10, etc - doing stuff manually on TSO screens is a non-starter; my software kicks off by running a single JCL stream, generating and 'sub'bing new jobs along its way (including this STOGROUP creation), is totally automated, no hands on, have got 10 freebe days left on Dallas, after that it's $550/mnth, so little time to study even subsets of subjects (like DB2) when only a mini job like DSNUPROC is required - in 10 days I go away:'( - am not averse to studying but having 40 yrs of app programming with no sysprog stuff, is why I really appreciate a 'canned' solution from people who've actually done these small but vital to me one-off functions; I get all of my answers from a) googling, b) this group, c) IBM as last resort - it works - after writing the above (see my reply to Ron Heskell) - the DSNUPROC problem is solved; more important I have the soon to be tested feeling that I've learned a valuable tool for my little project All this is much appreciated, so thanks kindly for the help! Graham -- On 27/05/2013 9:32 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Graham, If you are DB2 V10 then you need to keep in line with IBM's direction of SMS management. I would look at the Share Presentation http://www.bwdb2ug.org/PDF/SMS_is_Now_Mandatory_for_DB2_V10.pdf Define the SMS environment for the DB2 catalog and directory data sets (DSNTIJSS) In DB2R Version 10, data sets that are defined for the DB2 catalog and directory are managed by DB2 and must be SMS-managed. Start of changeJob DSNTIJSS shows how to create a stand-alone SMS environment for the DB2 catalog and directory data sets. Job DSNTIJSS is designed for use on systems that do not already have a SMS environment, but it can also be used as a reference for adapting an existing one. End of change Start of changeYou are not required to convert existing DB2 data sets to an SMS environment before migrating to Version 10. These data sets can indefinitely remain non-SMS-managed, but they will be converted to SMS management when the related table space is reorganized.End of change The SMS environment that you use for DB2 catalog and directory data sets must be established before you begin migration to Version 10. The SMS environment must include a data class for allocating the data sets in extended format and using extended addressability. To define a data class with this attribute, specify EXT in the DATA SET NAME TYPE field of the DATA SET CLASS DEFINE panel of ISMF. Then, ensure that the automatic class selection (ACS) routine associates the DB2
Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Hi Wayne, DBPROCAG .. co-incidentally it just so happens I can't get to the D2 option via ISPF so wrote to IBM and they tied it to logon with DBPROCAG! However, I can only do what their Ref Guide says which is start DB2 with /-DBAG START DB2 - that's all I know. I don't know what startup proc gets run:-( .. am assuming the start cmd does that. Am waiting to hear from IBM. My system has no manual intervention, it runs in batch mode to do its thing, is designed that way. Any stoppage is bad news. cheers and thanks, Graham -- On 28/05/2013 12:03 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Graham, On most Dallas setups you will have a DBPROCAG for a DBA TSO logon proc. Once logged on you should have the DB2 Admin tool and SPUFI. Most of what you have been doing can be done without running batch jobs. HTH On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Hello Lizette, Got all your pointers about: - EXEC PROC, looking into SDSNLOAD, manual refs, installation step 10, etc - doing stuff manually on TSO screens is a non-starter; my software kicks off by running a single JCL stream, generating and 'sub'bing new jobs along its way (including this STOGROUP creation), is totally automated, no hands on, have got 10 freebe days left on Dallas, after that it's $550/mnth, so little time to study even subsets of subjects (like DB2) when only a mini job like DSNUPROC is required - in 10 days I go away:'( - am not averse to studying but having 40 yrs of app programming with no sysprog stuff, is why I really appreciate a 'canned' solution from people who've actually done these small but vital to me one-off functions; I get all of my answers from a) googling, b) this group, c) IBM as last resort - it works - after writing the above (see my reply to Ron Heskell) - the DSNUPROC problem is solved; more important I have the soon to be tested feeling that I've learned a valuable tool for my little project All this is much appreciated, so thanks kindly for the help! Graham -- On 27/05/2013 9:32 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Graham, If you are DB2 V10 then you need to keep in line with IBM's direction of SMS management. I would look at the Share Presentation http://www.bwdb2ug.org/PDF/SMS_is_Now_Mandatory_for_DB2_V10.pdf Define the SMS environment for the DB2 catalog and directory data sets (DSNTIJSS) In DB2R Version 10, data sets that are defined for the DB2 catalog and directory are managed by DB2 and must be SMS-managed. Start of changeJob DSNTIJSS shows how to create a stand-alone SMS environment for the DB2 catalog and directory data sets. Job DSNTIJSS is designed for use on systems that do not already have a SMS environment, but it can also be used as a reference for adapting an existing one. End of change Start of changeYou are not required to convert existing DB2 data sets to an SMS environment before migrating to Version 10. These data sets can indefinitely remain non-SMS-managed, but they will be converted to SMS management when the related table space is reorganized.End of change The SMS environment that you use for DB2 catalog and directory data sets must be established before you begin migration to Version 10. The SMS environment must include a data class for allocating the data sets in extended format and using extended addressability. To define a data class with this attribute, specify EXT in the DATA SET NAME TYPE field of the DATA SET CLASS DEFINE panel of ISMF. Then, ensure that the automatic class selection (ACS) routine associates the DB2 catalog and directory data sets with this data class. To create the stand-alone SMS environment for the DB2 catalog and directory: Customize job DSNTIJSS according to the directions in the job prolog. Run job DSNTIJSS. To activate the SMS environment, use this z/OS command, where scds-name is the name of the SMS source control data set that was specified by DSNTIJSS: SETSMS SCDS(scds-name) Attention: This command will deactivate any existing SMS environment that is defined from another SCDS. Run the SMS CONVERTV tool with the TEST option to verify that all data sets on target volumes can be placed under SMS management. Example of running CONVERTV with the TEST option: //CONVRTV EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=5M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DD1 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=targvol1,DISP=OLD //DD2 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=targvol2,DISP=OLD //SYSINDD * CONVERTV DDNAME(DD1) SMS TEST CATALOG CONVERTV DDNAME(DD2) SMS TEST CATALOG /* When CONVERTV TEST reports that all data sets on the target volumes can be placed under SMS management, run CONVERTV without the TEST option to convert the data sets. If any data sets cannot be converted, do not run CONVERTV without the TEST option. You must either create additional ACS routines to manage these data sets or move them to different (non-SMS) volumes. Related tasks: Premigration checklist
Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Thanks, still didn't work:-( but Ron's post explained why. On 27/05/2013 10:26 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 51a2b33f.3060...@cdpwise.net, on 05/26/2013 at 09:13 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net said: Does that imply IKJEFT01 can't do it, No, it implies that a hyphen is not a valid TSO command. The + or - for continuation goes at the end of the line, not at the beginning. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Hi Ron,
I used your 'something like JCL', diddled around muchly, finished up with ..
//PROCLIB JCLLIB ORDER=(DSNA10.PROCLIB)
//STEP1EXEC DSNUPROC,SYSTEM=DBAG,UID='',UTPROC=''
//DSNUPROC.SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.UTPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.SYSINDD *
EXEC SQL
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUMES (VPWRKD)
VCAT CHELCAT
ENDEXEC
/*
.. and got ..
* TOP OF DATA
*
DSNU000I147 10:44:39.53 DSNUGUTC - OUTPUT START FOR UTILITY, UTILID
= IBMUSER.AU4
DSNU1044I 147 10:44:39.78 DSNUGTIS - PROCESSING SYSIN AS EBCDIC
DSNU050I147 10:44:39.78 DSNUGUTC - EXEC SQL CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUMES (VPWRKD) VCAT CHELCAT ENDEXEC
DSNU1180I 147 10:44:45.14 DSNUGSQL - SQLCODE = 000, SUCCESSFUL
EXECUTION
DSNU010I147 10:44:45.15 DSNUGBAC - UTILITY EXECUTION COMPLETE,
HIGHEST RETURN CODE=0
BOTTOM OF DATA
***
.. hey man - it BLUDDY worked!!! - didn't like VOLUME, c'est tout.
Between the above and the folk who helped, again, many thanks,
Graham
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On 27/05/2013 2:57 AM, Ron hesketh wrote:
Hi Graham,
DSNUPROC is aJCL procedure for executing DB2 utilities. DSNUTILB is
the DB2 utility program.
To create DB2 objetcts using DSNUTILB, you nees to use the EXEC SQL online
utility control statement.
To create your STOGROUP using DSNUPROC , your JCL woul;d be something
like :
//STEP1 EXEC DSNUPROC,SYSTEM=ssid,UID='',UTPROC='' ssid is
your DB2 subsystem id.
//DSNUPROC.SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.UTPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.SYSINDD *
EXEC SQL
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
ENDEXEC
/*
To do it using IKJEFT01, you need to use one of the IBM sample programs to
process the DDL.the TSO DSN command cannot execute SQL.
Heres an example from the DB2 IVP job DSNTEJ1 :
//PH01S01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=20,COND=(4,LT)
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
DSN SYSTEM(ssid)
RUN PROGRAM(DSNTIAD) PLAN(DSNTIAD) -
LIB('your.RUNLIB.LOAD')
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
;
/*
Regards,
Ron
From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 27/05/2013 01:10 AM
Subject:DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
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Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job.
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other?
Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)?
Cheers,
Graham Hobbs
P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[
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Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
,SYSTEM=ssid,UID='',UTPROC='' ssid is
your DB2 subsystem id.
//DSNUPROC.SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.UTPRINT DD SYSOUT=(*)
//DSNUPROC.SYSINDD *
EXEC SQL
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
ENDEXEC
/*
To do it using IKJEFT01, you need to use one of the IBM sample programs to
process the DDL.the TSO DSN command cannot execute SQL.
Heres an example from the DB2 IVP job DSNTEJ1 :
//PH01S01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=20,COND=(4,LT)
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *
DSN SYSTEM(ssid)
RUN PROGRAM(DSNTIAD) PLAN(DSNTIAD) -
LIB('your.RUNLIB.LOAD')
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
;
/*
Regards,
Ron
From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 27/05/2013 01:10 AM
Subject:DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job.
CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP
VOLUME VPWRKD
VCAT CHELCAT
Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other?
Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)?
Cheers,
Graham Hobbs
P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[
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DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job. CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other? Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)? Cheers, Graham Hobbs P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Hi Lizette, Oiyoiyoi .. I meant DSNUTILB and DSNUPROC .. so sorry:-((. I sort of imagined that all the CICS and DB2 folk were here so didn't bother with CICS and DB2 groups. I do have a newsgroup list but it would have been interesting to see what other mainframe groups are useful except I couldn't read yours with Notepad or SPFPC60:-(. Yesterday I got my first CICS transaction working on Dallas's z/OS CICSTS42. It's accesses a VSAM KSDS file (built via IDCAMS). My next transaction is similiar but will access a DB2 table. Via reading it seems there are a) and b) preparatory one time steps to perform: a) create a stogroup b) create a database within the stogroup c) thereafter my software will add small tables to the database to be accessed by my CICS pgms. Thus the questions about using DSNUTILB or DSNUPROC for at least a) and b) above and which is best? .. and hopefully c). I have plunged in with both and failed miserably. My JCL knowledge used to be strong for batch prod jobstreams but dealing with these 'specialities' ten years later is a struggle. My baby start JCL is: //AU1 JOB (CONRAD),'GH', etc //* STOGROUP CREATE //DSNUPROC EXEC PGM=DSNUPROC,REGION=0M //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DSNA10.PROCLIB //SYSINDD * CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT // .. delivering .. IEW4007I FIND FOR MODULE DSNUPROC FAILED BECAUSE DIRECTORY ENTRY IS NOT VALID FOR A LOAD MODULE. CSV003I REQUESTED MODULE DSNUPROC NOT FOUND CSV028I ABEND806-04 JOBNAME=AU1 STEPNAME=DSNUPROC .. checked IEW4007I but both the steplib and proc exist .. yuk. Next, with the same JCL, will be CREATE DATABASE CHELBAS1 STOGROUP CHELGRP CCSID EBCDIC Thanks for the quick answer! Graham -- On 26/05/2013 1:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Graham, I am a little confused. Typically DFH is CICS functions, and a STOGROUP is either DB2 or DFSMS. So what are you trying to do? If you could post the complete Batch Job that will help. Lizette PS. Yes there is a DB2 newsgroup and a CICS newsgroup which already have this in their archives. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job. CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other? Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)? Cheers, Graham Hobbs P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC
Perry, thanks but all the commands gave me this msg; READY - DSN SYSTEM(DBAG) IKJ56621I INVALID COMMAND NAME SYNTAX READY - CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP IKJ56621I INVALID COMMAND NAME SYNTAX Does that imply IKJEFT01 can't do it, or, there is a there just a syntax correction needed (besides the DD * :-). Seems a much simpler solution than the DSNU's. Graham -- On 26/05/2013 7:32 PM, Perry Mayes wrote: Try running tso in batch. Something like below: //JOBLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=db2hlq.SDSNLOAD //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=20 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD - DSN SYSTEM(ssid) - CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT Perry Mayes Sent from hand held device Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net 26/05/2013 4:44:26 PM Hi Lizette, Oiyoiyoi .. I meant DSNUTILB and DSNUPROC .. so sorry:-((. I sort of imagined that all the CICS and DB2 folk were here so didn't bother with CICS and DB2 groups. I do have a newsgroup list but it would have been interesting to see what other mainframe groups are useful except I couldn't read yours with Notepad or SPFPC60:-(. Yesterday I got my first CICS transaction working on Dallas's z/OS CICSTS42. It's accesses a VSAM KSDS file (built via IDCAMS). My next transaction is similiar but will access a DB2 table. Via reading it seems there are a) and b) preparatory one time steps to perform: a) create a stogroup b) create a database within the stogroup c) thereafter my software will add small tables to the database to be accessed by my CICS pgms. Thus the questions about using DSNUTILB or DSNUPROC for at least a) and b) above and which is best? .. and hopefully c). I have plunged in with both and failed miserably. My JCL knowledge used to be strong for batch prod jobstreams but dealing with these 'specialities' ten years later is a struggle. My baby start JCL is: //AU1 JOB (CONRAD),'GH', etc //* STOGROUP CREATE //DSNUPROC EXEC PGM=DSNUPROC,REGION=0M //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DSNA10.PROCLIB //SYSINDD * CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT // .. delivering .. IEW4007I FIND FOR MODULE DSNUPROC FAILED BECAUSE DIRECTORY ENTRY IS NOT VALID FOR A LOAD MODULE. CSV003I REQUESTED MODULE DSNUPROC NOT FOUND CSV028I ABEND806-04 JOBNAME=AU1 STEPNAME=DSNUPROC .. checked IEW4007I but both the steplib and proc exist .. yuk. Next, with the same JCL, will be CREATE DATABASE CHELBAS1 STOGROUP CHELGRP CCSID EBCDIC Thanks for the quick answer! Graham -- On 26/05/2013 1:56 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Graham, I am a little confused. Typically DFH is CICS functions, and a STOGROUP is either DB2 or DFSMS. So what are you trying to do? If you could post the complete Batch Job that will help. Lizette PS. Yes there is a DB2 newsgroup and a CICS newsgroup which already have this in their archives. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: DFHUTILB and DFHUPROC Wisdom sought please! I have tried to build a stogroup via batch job. CREATE STOGROUP CHELGRP VOLUME VPWRKD VCAT CHELCAT Seems DFHUPROC and DFHUTILB are options. Is one more common than the other? Is it that the first calls the second (amongst others)? Cheers, Graham Hobbs P.S. Secretly am looking for JCL that bl..dy works:-):-[ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized
Hello Terry, Here's what's happened .. three days before my original post, I had emailed IBM but heard nothing thus the post. Sent a reminder email to IBM and got an instant response and as Friday wore on, a solution (they're good). It seems that what I'd learned here and did was correct. The missing bit was as simple as making a copy of DFH420.SVTSC.PROCLIB(CICSTS42) to my VENDOR.PROCLIB (apparently being on the pecking chain (which was in the Dallas documentation but I knew too little to comprehend)) and concatenating a // DD DSN=VENDOR.LOADUSER,DISP=SHR (where I stick pgms and maps) to the DFHRPL stmt therein .. is an example of your 'pristine' I think. .. anyway my menu scrn appeared! Am a happy camper. Everything's simple - if you know how. Small downside was getting PROG755's in some of my maps that never appeared with the same transaction in TXSeries .. will work on that before coming back here:-). In the meantime I would very much thank you and all who helped, am learning more of CICS tous le temps. Graham -- On 24/05/2013 11:39 AM, Terry Sambrooks wrote: Hi Graham, Assuming that you have changed the GRPLIST in the SYSIN SIT to include your LIST, i.er. the LIST which holds your group (GROUP1), then you should not need to perform an INSTALL after each START=INITIAL. I use an ADCD rather than a Dallas system but the process is the same as I mentioned in my earlier post. If you are able to view your CICS system via SDSF, the relevant SYSIN should be in the JCL of that task which typically contains multiple steps, the first two being IDCAMS executions and the third is CICS itself. The SYSIN DD statement in this step will specify a data set name with a member name appended and it is this member name which will contain the SIT parameters probably starting with the APPLID. The GRPLIST parameter will be found here also and probably only points to XYZLIST which is an IBM provided list. To include your list simple code GRPLIST(XYZLIST,INITLIST),. (You are allowed up to 4 lists.) Given the data set names in your last post, and checking with the CICS42 procedure on my system I would expect the SYSIN data set to be called DFH420.SYSIN, which contains 6 DFHSIP members. If the default from the SIP symbolic parameter is being used then the member of interest would be DFH$SIP$1. I would recommend copying this member and changing the last digit so that CICS could be started with SIP=G say, to allow CICS to be started with /s cicsts42,SIP=G - start=initial should not be needed as it is the default in the procedure if it standard. I think I might have missed the DFHCSDUP ADD GROUP to LIST item as I thought I had read that into your original post but the sequence should be: DEFINE resources - Which creates new group if it is not already in existence ADD Group to LIST - Which creates new list if it is not already in existence Both of the above can be done with DFHCSDUP and if CICS is stopped and started with the new list in GRPLIST, there is no need for INSTALL which cannot be done via DFHCSDUP. I actually have a pair programs which exploit the CICS EXCI interface to allow INSTALL from batch but that's another story. Finally if you are happy to update an IBM list then your group have been added to XYZLIST. For preference I like to keep IBM supplied stuff pristine thus providing a fall-back position if and when things go pear shaped. Kind Regards - Terry Director KMS-IT Limited 228 Abbeydale Road South Dore Sheffield S17 3LA UK Reg : 3767263 Outgoing e-mails have been scanned, but it is the recipients responsibility to ensure their anti-virus software is up to date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized
Hi Terry, Thanks, am getting a bit knotted with all the incoming info helping me, if I may .. -- I use batch DFHCSDUP just for DEFINE'ing all my pgms, maps, files and transid's (avg 20 each time) because is part of an automated process (RDO is a non-starter). The entries seem to 'stick' from bounce to bounce .. so am guessing that DFHCSDUP is OK in this context but not for INSTALLing groups/lists what have you. I'd like to believe this because DFHCSDUP is fundamental to my little system e.g: //DFHCSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M, // PARM='CSD(READWRITE),PAGESIZE(60),NOCOMPAT' //STEPLIB DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR //DFHCSD DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR //OUTDDDD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DELETE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1) DEFINE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1) TRANSID(QKVA) LANGUAGE(COBOL) DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm) .. plus several more DEFINE's -- About warm etc starts: being a Dallas 'guest' I am skillwise limited to do what they say i.e.. /s cicsts42,start=initial /f cicsts42,cemt p shut imm .. that's my limit. -- .. bell just rang, email from Patrick .. will now do a search for APPLID=, I found his third sentence DEVASTATING for me, sounds like I'd have to INSTALL my GROUP1 and INITLIST after each start=initial .. sounds like 'not the way to go'. -- Where should I look for 'the SYSIN DD statement in the CICS step of the start-up JCL' .. think am asking where is the SIT table/file? Search path I'm using is: //NEWDDDD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.CPSM.CUSTOM.INSTALL,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.CUSTOM.INSTALL,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.DOCLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.INSTALL,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.MIS.SERVICE,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.PGMDIR,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.README,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.RIMLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=DFH420.SVSC.SAMPLES,DISP=SHR .. is right? -- .. the search for APPLID= and SYSIN did point to what might be significant being .. BROWSEDFH420.SVSC.CUSTOM.INSTALL(CEECCSD) - 01.0 Line 0 Command === Top of Data ** /DFHCSDXJOB (FB3),IBMUSER,REGION=4M, /CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=X,COND=(0,NE),NOTIFY=SYSUID /* ADD LE SUPPORT FOR CICS TS /CSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M /STEPLIB DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR /DFHCSD DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR /SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* /SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* /SYSINDD DSN=CEE.SCEESAMP(CEECCSD),DISP=SHR * /CSDADDEXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M /STEPLIB DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR /DFHCSD DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR /SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* /SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* /SYSINDD * ADD GROUP(CEE) LIST(XYZLIST) * *** Bottom of Data .. am I searching in the right place? am I getting closer? is this where I might add in: ADD GROUP(GROUP1) LIST(XYZLIST) and did I ever need to create an INITLIST which is what I did? -- I thank all for your patience, rest assured you won't hear from me after I see my QKVA transid bring up my menu screen!!! .. until next time:-) Tia Graham .. other kind posters .. am thinking .. help is so welcome -- On 24/05/2013 3:27 AM, Terry Sambrooks wrote: HI Graham, Both Lizette and Wayne have correctly indicated that doing a CEDA INSTALL as prior to issuing that command the transaction definition is defined within the CSD but not available to CICS for use. Additionally it may be worth knowing that INSTALL is not possible via DFHCSDUP. If CICS is started with a WARM or EMERGENCY start the CSD is not used to refresh the resource definitions within CICS, it uses the CICS Global Catalogue instead. If an INITIAL or COLD start is performed it will use the CSD. Doing the INSTALL via CEDA is fine for WARM/EMERGENCY situations but to cater for INITIAL/COLD if a new LIST has been created it is worth checking the GRPLIST parameter in the SIT to ensure that the list is defined to CICS start-up. The SIT can be located by checking the member name in the data set defined via . Kind Regards - Terry Director KMS-IT Limited 228 Abbeydale Road South Dore Sheffield S17 3LA UK Reg : 3767263 Outgoing e-mails have been scanned, but it is the recipients responsibility to ensure their anti-virus software is up to date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized
Hello, My question is about finding a solution to: DFHAC2001 05/22/2013 21:09:19 CICSTS42 Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized. Check that the transaction name is correct. Long technical post, very sorry, not a sysprog, at Dallas VIC, z/OS, CICSTS42 and struggling to make my first CICS transaction at Dallas work. Have pored over docs but clearly missed something. In my old app programmer days I'd call the CICS guy (now me (yuk)). The DFHAC2001 only told me am missing something and being fearful of having to do something radical to some DFH420 file:-(( so 'nth' degree steps would be priceless .. might someone give me clues? .. details: all programs, maps, transid's and KSDS files are loaded via a batch DFHCSDUP (part of an automated process thus RDO is not on) e.g .. //DFHCSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M, // PARM='CSD(READWRITE),PAGESIZE(60),NOCOMPAT' //STEPLIB DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR //DFHCSD DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR //OUTDDDD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DELETE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1) DEFINE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1) TRANSID(QKVA) LANGUAGE(COBOL) DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm) DELETE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1) DEFINE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1) PROGRAM(QKVSP01) DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm) // .. which worked ok but since QKVA didn't work, reading told me I needed .. CEDA ADD GROUP(GROUP1) LIST(INITLIST) .. which seemed to work; knowing XYZLIST exists at Dallas, to learn what to expect, did .. D LIST(XYZLIST) NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE DFHDCTG GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 DFHBMS GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 DFHCONS GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 DFHDBCTL GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 DFHDB2 GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 DFHEDF GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24 etc .. and found the above; did the same for my INITLIST and got .. D LIST(INITLIST) NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE GROUP1 GROUPINITLIST 05/22/13 19:24:21 .. which looks OK to me BUT didn't show any GROUP1 entries so I did .. D GROUP(GROUP1) ENTER COMMANDS NAME TYPE GROUPLAST CHANGE QKVSKEYA FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22 QKVSKEYB FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22 QKVSKEYC FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22 QKVSHE1 MAPSET GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21 QKVSHE2 MAPSET GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21 etc QKVSP01 PROGRAM GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21 QKVSP02 PROGRAM GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21 etc QKVA TRANSACTION GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22 QKVB TRANSACTION GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22 etc .. which also looks good .. Novice thinking is asking why D LIST(INITLIST) doesn't show my GROUP1 things? I have shut down CICS, reloaded via the DFHCSDUP, done START=INITIAL, various combos thereof .. nothing! Please, thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Obtaining Download Director
Thanks Jim, Will read the doc .. don't know why I didn't find it:-(. Graham - Original Message - From: Jim Phoenix jimphoe...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Obtaining Download Director Graham, According to the FAQ at http://www6.software.ibm.com/dldirector/doc/DDfaq_en.html there is nothing to install, you just JAVA installed. So all you need do is click on a link to download some file with Download Director. On 5/16/2013 6:57 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote: Hello, Is there a story on IBM's Download Director (DD), I need it for Windows 7. I've had it on my dying XP laptop for many years .. works a treat, greatly faster than HTTP. For the new machine i googled Download Director and kept coming up with Systems Director 6.1.2 so concluded it's therein. OK so I go to SAC and find Systems Director is 4580mb, i.e enormous but I only need DD:-(. SAC offers DD and HTTP and since I shortly need to download RDz and TXSeries am keen to get DD up and running again. So might DD be out there somewhere in teeny tiny form? cheers Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- | Jim Phoenix | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x316 | | Senior Software Developer| Fax: (310) 338-0801| | Phoenix Software International || | 831 Parkview Drive North | jimphoe...@phoenixsoftware.com | | El Segundo, CA 90245 | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com | Opinions expressed by this individual are not necessarily those of the Company. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Obtaining Download Director
Hello, Is there a story on IBM's Download Director (DD), I need it for Windows 7. I've had it on my dying XP laptop for many years .. works a treat, greatly faster than HTTP. For the new machine i googled Download Director and kept coming up with Systems Director 6.1.2 so concluded it's therein. OK so I go to SAC and find Systems Director is 4580mb, i.e enormous but I only need DD:-(. SAC offers DD and HTTP and since I shortly need to download RDz and TXSeries am keen to get DD up and running again. So might DD be out there somewhere in teeny tiny form? cheers Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SYSLOG
Ed, Barbara, Lizette,
Thanks, am comfortable to know that I'm not purging anything critical since
if anything does go wrong am at Dallas's IIC disposal.
Cheers,
Graham
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Subject: Re: SYSLOG
On 5/11/2013 7:40 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
1) Leave it on spool
2) Write it off to dasd (GDG or Source manager like $AVERS) using the
External Writer process.
3) Purge it
The poor man's approach to syslog management is to periodically kick off
a job that issues the 'W L' command ('L' would be your 'log' class') and
then copies syslog output to GDG via external writer. For example:
// COMMAND 'W L'
//WAIT10S EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='pgm /bin/sleep 10s'
//IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IASXWR00,REGION=6M,PARM='PL'
//IEFRDER DD DSN=SYSLOG.ARCHIVE(+1),
//DATACLAS=SLOGARCH,
//LRECL=136,BUFNO=5,RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=27998,
//DISP=(NEW,CATLG)
Some folks amend this process slightly to limit the archiving to logs over
'n' days old.
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SYSLOG
Hello, NQ: Trying to keep my SD;O list short. I find 15 of the following thereon: SYSLOG STC2 +MASTER+ 144 C STD LOCAL 70 SYSLOG STC00018 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,536 SYSLOG STC00052 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,499 SYSLOG STC00091 +MASTER+ 128 C STD LOCAL 3,592 I see nothing therein of interest to me except the third field seems to be a date. Mine run from 13074 to 13129. Do I need to keep them, some, none, all? Please thanks. Graham Hobbs NQ=Novice question -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem
My gratitude to all who helped. Every time I come with these questions I
learn much, this time including how to read. Finished up with what Terry and
George proposed:
//AP02 JOB (CONRAD),'IBMUSE2',
// CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
//JOBLIB DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND,DISP=SHR
//OTHLIBS JCLLIB ORDER=DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC
//QKVSP02 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL,
//CBLPARM=('NODYNAM,LIB,RENT,SIZE(4000K),CICS(''COBOL2'')'),
//INDEX=DFH420.CICS,
//LNGPRFX=IGY420,
//DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS,
//PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND
//COBOL.SYSIN DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP02),DISP=SHR
//
Again my thanks,
Graham
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Subject: Re: Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem
Hi Graham,
I believe in attempting to address the SIZE problem within the compile
listing a confusion between valid EXEC statement keywords and symbolic
parameters has arisen. Try the following which separates the two, by not
using the keyword PARM but taking advantage of the embedded symbol
CNLPARM.
Note that in using CBLPARM it is necessary to include all the options
already specified within the procedure.
//ACICSP01 JOB (CONRAD-C),'IBMUSE2',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1)
//MYLIBS JCLLIB ORDER=(DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC)
//QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL,
//CBLPARM=('NODYNAM,LIB,RENT,SIZE(4000K),CICS(''COBOL2'')')
//INDEX=DFH420.CICS,
//LNGPRFX=IGY420,
//DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS,
//PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND
//COBOL.SYSIN DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR
//LKED.SYSLMOD DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR
An even easier alternative would be to include a CBL SIZE(4000K) statement
as the first source code line which will achieve the same effect without
modification to the JCL.
Kind Regards - Terry
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Re: Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem
Folks, I thankyou - still not resolved - going to bed:-(. Back on Thursday, bad day tomorrow, experiments todo. If it's this ugly for COBOL/CICS, my next week will be COBOL/CICS/DB2 compiles .. yuk Graham - Original Message - From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem Hello, Back again. Am at Dallas IIC z/OS, compiling a dozen COBOL/CICS pgms all having a SIZE problem. The following JCL almost worked without SIZE: //ACICSP01 JOB (CONRAD-C),'IBMUSE2',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //MYLIBS JCLLIB ORDER=(DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC) //QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL, //INDEX=DFH420.CICS, //LNGPRFX=IGY420, //DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, //PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND) //COBOL.SYSIN DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR //LKED.SYSLMOD DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR .. but all compiles give .. IGYOS4013-W The SIZE(MAX) option was specified together with the SQL or CICS option. SIZE(n) option is recommended, where n is an explicit size value (not MAX) that leaves enough storage in the user region for the DB2 coprocessor or CICS integrated translator services. .. onto solutions .. goggling says use SIZE=4000K; tried various combos, closest I got was with .. QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL,PARM=(SIZE=4000K, INDEX=DFH420.CICS, LNGPRFX=IGY420, DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND) .. but this gave .. STMT NO. MESSAGE 3 IEFC624I INCORRECT USE OF PERIOD IN THE PARM FIELD .. so tried .. QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL, SIZE=4000K, INDEX=DFH420.CICS, LNGPRFX=IGY420, DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND .. and got STMT NO. MESSAGE 3 IEFC001I PROCEDURE DFHZITCL WAS EXPANDED USING PRIVATE LIBRARY DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC 3 IEFC657I THE SYMBOL SIZE WAS NOT USED Can anyone say where am wrong, how to specify a SIZE=4000K parm? Am guessing I am simply placing or coding SIZE slightly incorrectly .. very frustrating. Again, please, thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Compile COBOL/CICS pgms on z/OS problem
Hello, Back again. Am at Dallas IIC z/OS, compiling a dozen COBOL/CICS pgms all having a SIZE problem. The following JCL almost worked without SIZE: //ACICSP01 JOB (CONRAD-C),'IBMUSE2',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //MYLIBS JCLLIB ORDER=(DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC) //QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL, //INDEX=DFH420.CICS, //LNGPRFX=IGY420, //DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, //PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND) //COBOL.SYSIN DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR //LKED.SYSLMOD DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND(QKVSP01),DISP=SHR .. but all compiles give .. IGYOS4013-W The SIZE(MAX) option was specified together with the SQL or CICS option. SIZE(n) option is recommended, where n is an explicit size value (not MAX) that leaves enough storage in the user region for the DB2 coprocessor or CICS integrated translator services. .. onto solutions .. goggling says use SIZE=4000K; tried various combos, closest I got was with .. QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL,PARM=(SIZE=4000K, INDEX=DFH420.CICS, LNGPRFX=IGY420, DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND) .. but this gave .. STMT NO. MESSAGE 3 IEFC624I INCORRECT USE OF PERIOD IN THE PARM FIELD .. so tried .. QKVSP01 EXEC PROC=DFHZITCL, SIZE=4000K, INDEX=DFH420.CICS, LNGPRFX=IGY420, DSCTLIB=IBMUSE2.QKVS, PROGLIB=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND .. and got STMT NO. MESSAGE 3 IEFC001I PROCEDURE DFHZITCL WAS EXPANDED USING PRIVATE LIBRARY DFH420.CICS.SDFHPROC 3 IEFC657I THE SYMBOL SIZE WAS NOT USED Can anyone say where am wrong, how to specify a SIZE=4000K parm? Am guessing I am simply placing or coding SIZE slightly incorrectly .. very frustrating. Again, please, thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PDS searches
Hello, Another question .. I have four PDS's of copybooks, pgms, sysexec, proclib. I'd like to search the four for something. Have looked at 3.14 and 3.15 but seems that I can only search one PDS at a time. Is this the case, have I missed something? Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDS searches
Gentlemen, Thanks again, after ten years away from mainframe had forgotten 'srchfor' so finally came up with //SEARCH JOB (CONRAD),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) // EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC, // PARM=(SRCHCMP,ANYC,IDPFX,NOPRTCC) //NEWDDDD DSN=CONRAD.CBL.PGMS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=CONRAD.SUPPORT.PDS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC,DISP=SHR //OUTDDDD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * SRCHFOR 'TPUSER' SRCHFOR 'TPINST' // .. works a treat! cheers Graham - Original Message - From: EXT-Schwarz, Barry barry.schw...@boeing.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: PDS searches At least two options to do what you want: 3.15 brings up panel ISRSFPRI. If you blank out the DS Name and Member List fields, it will bring up panel ISRSFCON which allows you to specify up to four datasets to search. If you use 3.4 to bring up a dataset list containing the datasets of interest and exclude any not of interest, you can use the SRCHFOR command to find the text you want. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PDS searches Hello, Another question .. I have four PDS's of copybooks, pgms, sysexec, proclib. I'd like to search the four for something. Have looked at 3.14 and 3.15 but seems that I can only search one PDS at a time. Is this the case, have I missed something? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDS searches
Paul I'm a total novice at this. Your specific questions: responses are below ( was going to say 'answers' but that would be a funny:-) cheers graham - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: Re: PDS searches On 2013-04-29 16:59, Graham Hobbs wrote: Gentlemen, Thanks again, after ten years away from mainframe had forgotten 'srchfor' so finally came up with //SEARCH JOB (CONRAD),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) // EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC, // PARM=(SRCHCMP,ANYC,IDPFX,NOPRTCC) //NEWDDDD DSN=CONRAD.CBL.PGMS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=CONRAD.CBL.CPYBKS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=CONRAD.SUPPORT.PDS,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC,DISP=SHR //OUTDDDD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * SRCHFOR 'TPUSER' SRCHFOR 'TPINST' // .. works a treat! Ooooh! Neat! Thanks. I hadn't realized that SuperC will search a concatenation of PDS(E?)s. o Will it find every occurrence of the search pattern(s), or only in the first of similarly named members? - I don't know, I have nonesuch but I added Kolusu's SDUPM since he says it addresses the problem o Is this really a BPAM concatenation, or may the catenands have unlike attributes? - BPAM??? as for unlike attributes - didn't try it o is this available from the ISPF panels, even with unlike HLQs, as in your JCL example? - from ISPF panel, I don't know; my limits were 3.14 and 3.15 and could see no opportunities there; after what I've learned here it seems the JOB method suits me best since I always use the same PDS's so (1) (2) etc are instantly relatable (I bet one of our regular contributors wishes for regular expressions.) - that must be an 'inside' ref! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Run a REXX from JCL stream
At a guess, how many COBOL/CICS developers have ever heard of IKJEFT01? Start your count at 2. - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Run a REXX from JCL stream In FDD1A4F653CC4D9380931CC4899381AD@graham, on 04/27/2013 at 08:27 PM, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net said: Subject: Run a REXX from JCL stream That's not how IKJEFT011 works. Am a 'not a sysprog' You don't need to be an SP to use IKJEFT01. //SYSTSIN DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC(JOB2),DISP=SHR That has to be TSO commands and prompt data for commands, not REXX code. Put your foo REXX in SYSEXEC and call it with %foo. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Run a REXX from JCL stream
Hello, Am a 'not a sysprog' doing stuff at Dallas IIC under z/OS. Another prob (for me anyway). Have a JCL stream, first step is supposed to run a REXX pgm but it won't. Googling didn't help. Can anybody tell me what I've missed. JCL I sub is: //ATEST JOB (CONRAD-B),'IBMUSE2', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //JOBLIB DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND,DISP=SHR //*-- //STEPNAME EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSEXEC DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC,DISP=SHR //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC(JOB2),DISP=SHR .. followed by other stuff. REXX is: /* rexx */ say 'Job1 started' say 'Job1 ended' exit Result in SDSF;O is: * TOP OF DATA *** READY /* rexx */ READY say 'Job1 started' IKJ56500I COMMAND SAY NOT FOUND READY say 'Job1 ended' IKJ56500I COMMAND SAY NOT FOUND READY exit IKJ56500I COMMAND EXIT NOT FOUND READY END BOTTOM OF DATA * Looking at the output 'it' certainly found the REXX - that's a start - success ended there! Also IKJ56500 isn't in the manual and googling didn't help. Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Run a REXX from JCL stream
Gentlemen, Despite the fact that it's Saturday evening, latish, thirty minutes after posting:-), I got the perfect answers. Works a treat. Can't thankyou enough, Graham - Original Message - From: Hardee, Chuck chuck.har...@thermofisher.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Run a REXX from JCL stream Graham, Try this: //ATEST JOB (CONRAD-B),'IBMUSE2', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //JOBLIB DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND,DISP=SHR //*-- //STEPNAME EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSEXEC DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC,DISP=SHR= JOB2 will be retrieved and executed from here //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * JOB2 /* Charles (Chuck) Hardee Senior Systems Engineer Database Administration Information Technology Services Thermo Fisher Scientific 300 Industry Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15275 Direct: 724-517-2633 FAX: 412-490-9230 chuck.har...@thermofisher.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Graham Hobbs Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Run a REXX from JCL stream Hello, Am a 'not a sysprog' doing stuff at Dallas IIC under z/OS. Another prob (for me anyway). Have a JCL stream, first step is supposed to run a REXX pgm but it won't. Googling didn't help. Can anybody tell me what I've missed. JCL I sub is: //ATEST JOB (CONRAD-B),'IBMUSE2', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //JOBLIB DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND,DISP=SHR //*-- //STEPNAME EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSEXEC DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC,DISP=SHR //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DSN=VENDOR.SYSEXEC(JOB2),DISP=SHR .. followed by other stuff. REXX is: /* rexx */ say 'Job1 started' say 'Job1 ended' exit Result in SDSF;O is: * TOP OF DATA *** READY /* rexx */ READY say 'Job1 started' IKJ56500I COMMAND SAY NOT FOUND READY say 'Job1 ended' IKJ56500I COMMAND SAY NOT FOUND READY exit IKJ56500I COMMAND EXIT NOT FOUND READY END BOTTOM OF DATA * Looking at the output 'it' certainly found the REXX - that's a start - success ended there! Also IKJ56500 isn't in the manual and googling didn't help. Please, thanks, Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
SDSF compile output to a PDS via JCL
Hello, Am not sure this is simple and googling and docs are not illuminating - but I have compiled program PGM0047 and the output is in SDSF:O. Can I get this output into a 133 byte PDS via a step in a JCL stream e.g: //ZYJB5GEN JOB (CONRAD-B),'IBMUSE2',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //STEP1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DELETE IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT133(PGM0047) /* .. at this point I'd //STEP2 to be JCL to pick out PGM0047 from SDSF;O and copy it into IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT133(PGM0047) to be followed by many other steps e.g. //STEP3EXEC PGM=PGNAA01 etc Please make my day, thanks, Graham Hobbs P.S. As an aside can it be edited while in SDSF;O? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SDSF compile output to a PDS via JCL
Elardus,
Was simple after all! //SYSPRINT to a PDS worked fine as did the '?' and
'SE' on the member. Thanks very much!
Chip,
I will work with your REXX for other purposes - will be major useful. I have
been ooREXX for many years on the you know what platform, now I have to use
REXX in a z/OS world and SDSF was always sort of 'out there somewhere'. So
thanks.
Graham
- Original Message -
From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: SDSF compile output to a PDS via JCL
Graham Hobbs wrote:
but I have compiled program PGM0047 and the output is in SDSF:O. Can I get
this output into a 133 byte PDS via a step in a JCL stream e.g:
It is possible, but what output? From compiling PGM0047 or the PGM0047's
output?
Depending how you compiled PGM0047, you can put the program's output in a
PDS via JCL during execution.
Assuming you want the program's output, in the step where your PGM0047 is
running, simply replace
// DD SYSOUT=O to
// DD DISP=OLD,DSN=your.pds(PGM0047)
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DELETE IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT133(PGM0047)
/*
You want to delete your output before you extract it via SDSF? I'm not sure
what you're trying to do...
.. at this point I'd //STEP2 to be JCL to pick out PGM0047 from SDSF;O and
copy it into IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT133(PGM0047) to be followed by many other
steps e.g.
You can do that in batch. Just remember how you type in your commands in
SDSF to extract that file and try to repeat that in a batch job, line by
line, or just have your program's output placed in a PDS in the first place.
Please make my day, thanks,
go ahead, make my day - Clint Eastwood in 'Sudden Impact' ;-)
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/242000.html
P.S. As an aside can it be edited while in SDSF;O?
Yes. I think it is first ? and then SE line commands ('m not now at a
terminal)
HTH!
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: Files in PDS's with different LRECL's
Sorry Radoslaw, what's BTDT? - Original Message - From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:41 AM Subject: Re: Files in PDS's with different LRECL's W dniu 2013-04-20 14:19, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On 2013-04-20, at 03:02, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2013-04-20 02:49, Graham Hobbs pisze: Hello, In a JCL stream there are several F,B output files I'd like to put into a single PDS. Each file has a different LRECL? If I allocate the PDS with LRECL = the longest file's LRECL, can I do this? Am guessing this isn't a smart question:-) but then am not a sysprog. I know, I can try it, am just thinking ahead. Thanks Graham Hobbs BTDT. FOr PDSE you'll get an error, for PDS your file may be (will be) corrupted. For DISP=NEW, he should have no problem. But RECFM=VB seems to be the rational choice if the record lengths are, well, variable. My BTDT experience was limited to DISP=NEW in first step, and several further steps. It was enough to understand that LRECL should be the same for all members. I haven't studied all possible cases of (mis)use of PDS. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Files in PDS's with different LRECL's
Gentlemen, Thankyou for your help. Just for info .. the following are a subset of files created by a JCL stream that executes a dozen COBOL pgms and IBM utilities and 5/6 times a day .. //ZYJB5GEN JOB (CONRAD-B),'GH', // CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=0,MSGLEVEL=(1,1) //JOBLIB DD DSN=VENDOR.LINKLIB.SECOND,DISP=SHR //STEP1EXEC PGM=STEPP01 etc //SORTOUT DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS.ZZM05CON,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(5,2),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VPWRKB, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=1800) //SYSUT2 DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS.UQF.GEN,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(5,2),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VPWRKB, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=200) //CARRFILE DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS.CARRFILE,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), // SPACE=(TRK,(5,2),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VPWRKB, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=8000) //PRNTFILE DD DSN=IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT1,DISP=(,CATLG,DELETE), // SPACE=(CYL,(9,5),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=VPWRKB, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=133) .. the CARRFILE has only one 8000 byte record:-(. I wanted to minimise the clutter of files on a 3.4 list - of the below, three are PDS's, the others a variety of files of different LRECLs (and not all shown). IBMUSE2.QKVS IBMUSE2.QKVS.BMS IBMUSE2.QKVS.CARRFILE IBMUSE2.QKVS.JOBS IBMUSE2.QKVS.PRNT1 IBMUSE2.QKVS.REP1FILO IBMUSE2.QKVS.WORK IBMUSE2.QKVS.ZZM01CON So to a) keep the list short I had the bright idea of stuffing the non 80's in a single PDS; b) also simplifying any preceding delete to a solitary DELETE PDSNAME From what I've learned there are 'ways' but nothing simple/simple. My thanks for the help. Graham - Original Message - From: Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:49 PM Subject: Files in PDS's with different LRECL's Hello, In a JCL stream there are several F,B output files I'd like to put into a single PDS. Each file has a different LRECL? If I allocate the PDS with LRECL = the longest file's LRECL, can I do this? Am guessing this isn't a smart question:-) but then am not a sysprog. I know, I can try it, am just thinking ahead. Thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IIC Dallas z/OS guest system 'sleep'
Hello, On Dallas IIC from my z/VM control userid I issued and got: send etpgabc \cp sleep Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:33:32 qsleep etpgabc Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:33:51 What tells me if the guest z/OS system is actually asleep or have I done something wrong? cheers Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IIC Dallas z/OS guest system 'sleep'
Edward, This is very much VM 101 for me:-(. That works! thanks Graham - Original Message - From: Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re: IIC Dallas z/OS guest system 'sleep' On 4/6/2013 2:44 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote: On Dallas IIC from my z/VM control userid I issued and got: send etpgabc \cp sleep Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:33:32 qsleep etpgabc Ready; T=0.01/0.01 16:33:51 What tells me if the guest z/OS system is actually asleep or have I done something wrong? Back in the day, I used to check this by attempting to dial to a local 3270 device on the virtual machine. If it was asleep, my dial session would be unresponsive. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PDS processing in REXX
' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1F = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
when substr(LINEREAD.I,2,4) = 'CP1H' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1H = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
when substr(LINEREAD.I,2,4) = 'CP1K' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1K = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
when substr(LINEREAD.I,2,4) = 'CP1L' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1L = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
when substr(LINEREAD.I,2,4) = 'CP1S' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1S = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
when substr(LINEREAD.I,2,4) = 'CP1U' THEN
total_dispatch_time_CP1U = substr(lineread.i,58,12)
otherwise say Skip--- substr(lineread.i,1,122)
END /* select */
END I
EXECIO * DISKW OUTFILE (FINIS
IF RC = 0 THEN SAY 'RETURN FROM WRITE IS FINE ===' RC
else IF RC = 1 THEN SAY 'WROTE OVER EXISTING MEMBER.'
else SAY 'RETURN FROM WRITE IS NOT GOOD' RC
EXIT
PS: You may want to check out Netrexx (also written by Cowlishaw). It's very
REXX-like and generates java byte code that can run on a pc and a mainframe
and any platform that supports the JVM, Java Virtual Machine. To be clear:
the very same .class file can be executed with java moduleName.class from
the windows command line and an OMVS terminal.
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Behalf Of Graham Hobbs
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: PDS processing in REXX
Hello,
OK to ask for some help please, or where might I go?:-) Am not a sysprog,
hope to be back on a z/OS machine in a short while, have to convert several
ooREXX's to mainframe acceptability so, to save some mainframe time $'s, if
I may, will ask neophyte questions (have googled); that said ..
.. this REXX CJM1 will run from TSO/ISPF Option 6 and is:
/* REXX CJM1 */
CALL PARA1
CALL PARA2
CALL PARA3
EXIT
/* this needs to delete an empty or non-empty PDS from existence, do I need
to allocate etc, or will the following work? */
PARA1:
F1 = 'ENCORE.CBL.SOURCE'
DELETE 'F1' /* TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THESE QUOTE'Y THINGS */
RC_REASON = 'DELETE 'F1; CALL RETCODE
RETURN
/* this needs to
1. create a new PDS if it's not there
2. empty it if it is there
*/
PARA2:
F2 = 'CONRAD.TEST.CPYBKS'
ALLOC DA('F2') NEW REUSE RECFM(F B) LRECL(80),
DIR(255) SPACE(50,10) TRACKS UNIT(SYSDA)
RC_REASON = 'ALLOC I 'F2; CALL RETCODE
/* WISE TO FREE THIS FIRST?; IF ALLOC FAILS, CAN I ASSUME FILE NOT THERE
*/
RETURN
/* this needs to read and print a PDS member; is there a 'not so crude' way
*/
PARA3:
F3 = 'SUPPORT.FILE.PDS(FDQKVS)'
ALLOC DDNAME(INFILE1) DSN('F3') SHR REUSE
RC_REASON = 'ALLOC I 'F3; CALL RETCODE
/* WISE TO FREE THIS FIRST?; IF ALLOC FAILS, CAN I ASSUME FILE NOT THERE
*/
F3_EOF = 'NO'
DO WHILE F3_EOF = 'NO'
EXECIO 1 DISKR INFILE1
IF RC = 0 THEN DO
PULL WS_INB
SAY SUBSTR(WS_INB,1,79)
END
ELSE DO
F3_EOF = 'YES'
END
END
EXECIO 0 DISKR INFILE1 (FINIS
RC_REASON = 'FINIS 'F3; CALL RETCODE
FREE DDNAME(INFILE1)
RC_REASON = 'FREE 'F3; CALL RETCODE
RETURN
RETCODE:
IF RC \= 0 THEN DO
SAY 'E: 'RC_REASON' PROBLEM'; EXIT
END
ELSE DO
SAY 'I: 'RC_REASON' OK'
END
RETURN
.. thanks in advance,
Graham Hobbs
PS. Not being 'deep' .. why is I/O coding different between mainframe and
ooREXX? Did it have to be?
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PDS processing in REXX
Hello,
OK to ask for some help please, or where might I go?:-) Am not a sysprog, hope
to be back on a z/OS machine in a short while, have to convert several ooREXX's
to mainframe acceptability so, to save some mainframe time $'s, if I may, will
ask neophyte questions (have googled); that said ..
.. this REXX CJM1 will run from TSO/ISPF Option 6 and is:
/* REXX CJM1 */
CALL PARA1
CALL PARA2
CALL PARA3
EXIT
/* this needs to delete an empty or non-empty PDS from existence, do I need to
allocate etc, or will the following work? */
PARA1:
F1 = 'ENCORE.CBL.SOURCE'
DELETE 'F1' /* TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THESE QUOTE'Y THINGS */
RC_REASON = 'DELETE 'F1; CALL RETCODE
RETURN
/* this needs to
1. create a new PDS if it's not there
2. empty it if it is there
*/
PARA2:
F2 = 'CONRAD.TEST.CPYBKS'
ALLOC DA('F2') NEW REUSE RECFM(F B) LRECL(80),
DIR(255) SPACE(50,10) TRACKS UNIT(SYSDA)
RC_REASON = 'ALLOC I 'F2; CALL RETCODE
/* WISE TO FREE THIS FIRST?; IF ALLOC FAILS, CAN I ASSUME FILE NOT THERE */
RETURN
/* this needs to read and print a PDS member; is there a 'not so crude' way */
PARA3:
F3 = 'SUPPORT.FILE.PDS(FDQKVS)'
ALLOC DDNAME(INFILE1) DSN('F3') SHR REUSE
RC_REASON = 'ALLOC I 'F3; CALL RETCODE
/* WISE TO FREE THIS FIRST?; IF ALLOC FAILS, CAN I ASSUME FILE NOT THERE */
F3_EOF = 'NO'
DO WHILE F3_EOF = 'NO'
EXECIO 1 DISKR INFILE1
IF RC = 0 THEN DO
PULL WS_INB
SAY SUBSTR(WS_INB,1,79)
END
ELSE DO
F3_EOF = 'YES'
END
END
EXECIO 0 DISKR INFILE1 (FINIS
RC_REASON = 'FINIS 'F3; CALL RETCODE
FREE DDNAME(INFILE1)
RC_REASON = 'FREE 'F3; CALL RETCODE
RETURN
RETCODE:
IF RC \= 0 THEN DO
SAY 'E: 'RC_REASON' PROBLEM'; EXIT
END
ELSE DO
SAY 'I: 'RC_REASON' OK'
END
RETURN
.. thanks in advance,
Graham Hobbs
PS. Not being 'deep' .. why is I/O coding different between mainframe and
ooREXX? Did it have to be?
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Earlier today I saw the following: http://www.businessinsider.com/10-tech-skills-that-will-instantly-net-you-10-salary-2013-2#fortran-is-worth-103000-18 .. makes COBOL $200k/300k?? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all
Being naive - assuming Microsoft are enormous, not having IBM iron, with what hardware/software do they maintain their business? Graham Hobbs --- - Original Message - From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all It is *very* partial list. There are about 25 mainframe shops in israel, only one is listed. ITschak On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: One of the comments on that article left this link http://mainframes.wikidot.com/ which claims to be a partial listing of all Mainframe shops in the world. Ken -- This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, CIT), and are intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, any use, disclosure, printing, copying or distribution, or reliance on the contents, of this communication is strictly prohibited. CIT disclaims any liability for the review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or the taking of any action in reliance upon, this communication by persons other than the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission, and immediately delete and destroy the communication and any accompanying materials. To the extent permitted by applicable law, CIT and others may inspect, review, monitor, analyze, copy, record and retain any communications sent from or received at this email address. -- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all http://www.itworld.com/career/341879/cobol-will-outlive-us-all quote ... The reason that I'm telling you about COBOL is that I predict that over the next few years, new COBOL programmers are going to be in high demand and very possibly paid a premium for their efforts. Generally speaking, the COBOL programming skill set resides in baby boomers that have been programming in COBOL their entire career. The issue is that these baby boomers have begun retiring in enormous numbers. Additionally, new college recruits have neither the skill set nor the interest in replacing them. The problem for companies employing these COBOL programmers is that if the software stops, so does the company. /quote -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Java Security?
Timothy, that's assuring for the big guns! However, given my absolute ignorance of Java and its whatevers, how and where used on my laptops with Windows XP, with the likes of RDz, TXSeries, Adobe Reader, Lotus Symphony, Internet Explorer into 'regular' sites (IBM, Google, soccernet.com, news sites, etc), with Microsoft Security Essentials as an AV, with weekly Emisoft and Malwarebytes scans for insurance .. need I worry, are these 'protections' trapping the crap - maybe not of interest here but .. I ask the following in this group because am trying to develop mainframe stuff on an affordable platform? Where can little people like me read a succinct 'blow by blow' what I might do? As an aside, why don't/can't courts impose twenty year sentences to stop this nonsense? Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:00 AM Subject: Re: Java Security? I don't see any cause for alarm on servers, including on z/OS. To the extent the applet runtime environment is modified for security reasons I expect the server implementations to get updated for behavioral consistency, but it's no emergency in my view. Unless you make it a habit of affirmatively downloading Java programs from unknown sources and running it with limited or no external controls on the Java runtime. In which case you're already in trouble, particularly if you're using an operating system and Java implementation that the author of the malicious program anticipated and tested. Timothy Sipples Consulting Enterprise IT Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT: IBM #1 in number of patents for 2012. It's 20th year in a row to do so.
By 'prior art' might you be suggesting 'copyright'? Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: OT: IBM #1 in number of patents for 2012. It's 20th year in a row to do so. A certain amount of IBM's patenting activity is defensive, designed to ensure that someone else will not be able to obtain a patent instead and thus be in a position to exact royalties or market a very similar product/near copy. Pharmaceutical and chemical companies do much the same thing by patenting a number of related compounds defensively, even though their interest is chiefly in just one of them. IBM also publishes a Disclosure Journal, available in libraries but not I think by subscription, in which it discloses the details of 'inventions' that it does not itself wish to patent in order to make it impossible for others to patent them later. (Patents can be invalidated if prior art can be shown to have existed when they were issued.) Patent quality is for these and other reasons an elusive notion; but patent people--many of them are hybrid lawyer-engineer types--mostly take the view that IBM's patents are of very high quality indeed. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT: IBM #1 in number of patents for 2012. It's 20th year in a row to do so.
John, Could one conclude then, that inventing a software piece, copyrighting it (thus on a Govt database thus a public domain), a third party can patent the invention and you could end up paying the third party to use your own software? I read your comments closely and the above cannot happen!+ ..? Graham - Original Message - From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 12:49 PM Subject: Re: OT: IBM #1 in number of patents for 2012. It's 20th year in a row to do so. Graham, Prior art is a lawyer's term, not mine. If, say, I published a paper in 1977 describing a scheme for extracting the square root of a non-negative integer by successive subtraction, using the fact that n^2 is the sum of the first n odd integers, i.e., 2^2 = 4 = 1 + 3 3^2 = 9 = 1 + 3 + 5 4^2 = 16 = 1+ 3 + 5 + 7 5^2 = 25 = 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 . . . a later attempt to patent such a scheme would [almopst certainly] fail. This relation is due to Fr Marin Mersenne (1588-1648), but while no mathematical relation is itself patentable a device based upon it, which might otherwise be patentable, would not be if my paper describing such a device were known to the relevant Patent Office. Thus, while my paper might well be copyrighted (most published papers are), that is not the point; what is crucial is that the putative ' invention', being already in the public domain, is non-novel and thus not patentable. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome
Phil, au contraire, I find it ontopic. I work in isolation and when subjects such as this threaten to disrupt my PC RDz and TXSeries setup in unbeknownst ways, I read with concern about impacts and watch fors offered by this group - I pay attention. Commentary from Elardus was noted. Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome This is off-topic and does not belong on this list, any more than gas prices, politics, or LOLCATs. If I wanted to read about basic Windows issues, I'd subscribe to a basic Windows list. I know Ted meant well, but that doesn't make it appropriate. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome
Southern Ontario too but automatic updates is off, but missed the teeny tiny little checkbox not to install chrome. Am I wrong, is google becoming a nasty player? Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome Shouldn't have to go to the trouble of backing out their 'help'! If I'd wanted CHROME, I'd have kept it years ago! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:37:30 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome Ted, I just got burnt on Windows 7 x 64 bit, using Outlook 2007. I couldn't click on URLs and pull up my IE9 browser. I downloaded the fix from Microsoft. Applied it. Outlook worked fine, it wrecked IE9. Thank got is took a backup point prior all I had to do s restore, but still have my Outlook issue. I have seem several products install Chrome as part of them ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Nov 18, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I installed an upgrade of Flash Player, yesterday, unattended. I now have GOOGLE CHROME instead of FireFox. I know this is off-topic to the lists I've cross-posted to but I think the warning is appropriate, for those who care. I, personally, don't like CHROME. And, I don't know (for sure) that this is what did it. But, it's the only update I've done in months, except for Patch Tuesday(s). A word to the wise is efficient. PS: this was done in Canada (Southern Ontario), if that's relevant. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome
you buy the Sunday Toronto Star too:-) - Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome And, you believe? NYT reported, today, they're under anti-trust investigation. US and EU! --Original Message-- From: Paul Gilmartin Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Ot: GOOGLE Chrome Sent: 18 Nov 2012 20:54 On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:55:33 -0500, Graham Hobbs wrote: Am I wrong, is google becoming a nasty player? No. Their motto is, Do no evil! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sample course materials
Unless I've missed something 'The first 80 pages of the lecture file' downloads in its entirelty but there's no rightmost scroll bar, all I can see is the title page. Rest are OK. .. is me?? Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: Sample course materials Some people looking at our sale of training kits have asked about having a sample of our course materials. I thought it was a good idea so I've built a small sample from an existing course. See if this is of value to you: http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/sampleCourse.html The sample includes * Extract from the lecture file * Extract from the student handout print master * Extract from the instructor notes * Extract from the setup instructions for the lab files, and you can actually install the labs for the sample course (the sample is drawn from our course Developing Dialog Manager Applications in z/OS) Please remember, our sale ends 19 October. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * Check out our sale of training materials at http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/ (sale absolutely ends 19 October, 2012) * Let us know if you are interested in our training materials reseller program -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sample course materials
.. was me:-) - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Sample course materials On 10/14/2012 3:32 PM, Graham Hobbs wrote: Unless I've missed something 'The first 80 pages of the lecture file' downloads in its entirelty but there's no rightmost scroll bar, all I can see is the title page. Rest are OK. .. is me?? Graham Hobbs I don't understand your question. So, the file (SampleLectureFile.pdf) downloads in it's entirelty; good; but there's no rightmost scroll bar what does that mean? Have you opened the file in Acrobat reader? It should place you in full screen browse mode. PageUp and PageDown move you through the file. 'Esc' gets you out of full screen mode, Ctrl-L gets you back in. I never see a scroll bar. I don't expect to see a scroll bar. All this is explained on page 3 of the A brief look at our approach to teaching (HowToTeachOurCourses.pdf). Does that answer your question? - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: Sample course materials Some people looking at our sale of training kits have asked about having a sample of our course materials. I thought it was a good idea so I've built a small sample from an existing course. See if this is of value to you: http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/sampleCourse.html The sample includes * Extract from the lecture file * Extract from the student handout print master * Extract from the instructor notes * Extract from the setup instructions for the lab files, and you can actually install the labs for the sample course (the sample is drawn from our course Developing Dialog Manager Applications in z/OS) Please remember, our sale ends 19 October. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * Check out our sale of training materials at http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/ (sale absolutely ends 19 October, 2012) * Let us know if you are interested in our training materials reseller program -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * Check out our sale of training materials at http://www.trainersfriend.com/SpecialSale/ (sale absolutely ends 19 October, 2012) * Let us know if you are interested in our training materials reseller program -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How many subscribers?
Chris, Yes, quite useful, thanks Graham - Original Message - From: Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:29 AM Subject: Re: How many subscribers? Graham FWIW http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=nhpsfghl=en-GBq=IBM-MAIN 18162 subscribers, Messages per month: 1665, Usenet http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?lnk=nhpsfghl=en-GBq=CICS-L 3924 subscribers, Usenet Chris Mason On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0400, Graham Hobbs gho...@cdpwise.net wrote: Arte there any available estimates of how many subscribers there are to both this list and CICS-L? Would be appreciated. Thanks Graham Hobbs -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks
I found I could 'join' Share as a 'non-member' and got to the post - cost nothing. Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Re: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks Excellent! But it seems to be behind SHARE's paywall. I don't really object to that - but it WILL limit your audience. :-( Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 09/07/2012 04:46 PM Subject: Proof That Dinosaurs Can Learn New Tricks Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Proof that dinosaurs can learn new tricks, I wrote my first 'blog' entry -- EVER -- and it is on SHARE's web site. http://www.share.org/p/bl/ar/blogaid=167source=6 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT, but a perfect story for a Friday.
.. maybe in another newsgroup - Original Message - From: Mike Danner mike_dan...@hotmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Re: OT, but a perfect story for a Friday. You store it underground in an unused water or gas pipe. Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:35:24 -0500 From: mike.a.sch...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT, but a perfect story for a Friday. To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 1 Semi is 80,000 pound limit - 32,000 pount vehicle weight = 48,000 pound cargo per load. 50,000 * 20 = 1 million pounds, So 200 maximum weight semi loads. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Grinsell, Don dgrins...@mt.gov wrote: So how does one stealthily make off with that much maple syrup? It's not exactly like you hide it in your briefcase and waltz out the door. This sounds like the work of Snidely Whiplash and his gang. -- Donald Grinsell -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: File Processing
.. and she didn't have your experience, your salary or your brain .. bully for you Scott! Graham Hobbs - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 8:12 PM Subject: Re: File Processing I love it .I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE system on our 4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner, well I collected, brought her in and did a instruction trace pointed right to her code Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:27 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Oh, wow. We must have had the same person working in the late 1970s at my first job. System abend is a System problem, FIX IT! was his first statement on an S0C7. I explained that System abend meant system detected problem. And I showed him how to find the statement which abended in his COBOL listing. He went away. And came back two days later with the same, unsolved, problem. I threw him out. The people on the other side of the print shop (next to my *office*, I had an office back then!) heard me. The only thing I learned from the DI was how to project. We had DOS/VS at that time. The DOS person said that DOS would occasionally kill his programs as well. With the words USER REQUESTED TERMINATION. The programmer screamed at the DOS person to show him where in his COBOL, it said PERFORM TERMINATION. He finally left IT and went to work for the water department. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: File Processing Hal: A long time ago (when MVS first came out) a programmer got an S0C7 and brought it to us as it was a system abend for it was our problem. I pointed out while picking up the phone to his boss's boss and telling them both to read the FM and to get the F out of there. His boss had a few choice words and he only came down once again to gripe about some issue and we told (again) to RTFM about another user problem. He subsequently left and got aa high paying consultants job. We had a laugh over that. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
