Re: SYSPLEX JES2 SYSLOG processing

2024-01-06 Thread Jon Perryman
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 12:31:36 -0600, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: >On a z/OS 2.5 system using z System Automation V4.3, > >The event needs to issue a 'W L' then locate the SYSLOG output for that >specific LPAR, There are many ways to solve this problem and various considerations. >Where STC08984 is

Re: SYSPLEX JES2 SYSLOG processing

2024-01-04 Thread Steve Horein
024 at 12:31 PM Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > On a z/OS 2.5 system using z System Automation V4.3, I am trying to set a > daily event that runs on each LPAR of the SYSPLEX. > > The event needs to issue a 'W L' then locate the SYSLOG output for that > specific LPAR, start an XWTR wit

SYSPLEX JES2 SYSLOG processing

2024-01-04 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
On a z/OS 2.5 system using z System Automation V4.3, I am trying to set a daily event that runs on each LPAR of the SYSPLEX. The event needs to issue a 'W L' then locate the SYSLOG output for that specific LPAR, start an XWTR with job selection for class and JOBID... For example, 'S XWTR.XWTR

Re: Starting up a LPAR for the first time joining a parallel sysplex

2023-12-06 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Nothing major on the 1st 2 points. LPAR1 cannot join the sysplex until GRS= in IEASYS00 is updated to (at least) TRYJOIN. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Laurence Chiu Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Starting up a LPAR for the first time joining a parallel sysplex

2023-12-05 Thread Laurence Chiu
We are building a parallel sysplex. LPAR1 is still in a monoplex with GRS=NONE. It will be shutdown. Then we want to bring up LPAR2 with GRS=STAR and join the sysplex. A couple of questions cropped up. 1. Can LPAR2 be brought up, trying to access the share catalog, RACF database etc when

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-16 Thread Laurence Chiu
t; > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Laurence Chiu > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 1:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel > sysplex but the CF L

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-16 Thread Burrell, Todd
On Behalf Of Laurence Chiu Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 1:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there It was gold for me and will help me settle a dispute with some local sysprogs who said

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-16 Thread Jay Maynard
ckily for this one, I seem to have it bookmarked. > > > > > > On Thursday, November 16th, 2023 at 05:14, Attila Fogarasi < > > fogar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running > >

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-16 Thread Mark Jacobs
rote: > > > > > Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running > > > (either single system or sysplex without CF) > > > > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Where_is_My_Coupling_Facility.pdf > > > > > &q

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-16 Thread Michael Babcock
th, 2023 at 05:14, Attila Fogarasi < > > fogar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running > > > (either single system or sysplex without CF) > > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/support/pa

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread Laurence Chiu
one, I seem to have it bookmarked. > > > On Thursday, November 16th, 2023 at 05:14, Attila Fogarasi < > fogar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running > > (either single system or sysplex without CF) >

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread kekronbekron
system or sysplex without CF) > https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Where_is_My_Coupling_Facility.pdf > "The paper is being written to provide clear and concise instructions on > how to address the sysplex support team’s most common callout. Where is My

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread Laurence Chiu
That is perfect, thanks. Looks like there is some work to do at the DR site to make sure this does not happen. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:44 PM Attila Fogarasi wrote: > Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running > (either single system or sysplex with

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread Attila Fogarasi
Answered a decade ago including how to continue the IPL and get running (either single system or sysplex without CF) https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Where_is_My_Coupling_Facility.pdf "The paper is being written to provide clear and concise instructions on how to ad

Re: What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
, Laurence Chiu wrote: > Thinking about a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex with GRS=STAR. > > What happens if you IPL that LPAR and the CF is not active? Will it start, > issue a WTOR or just fail? We are wondering what would happen if our LPAR > was started at the DR site (o

What happens if you IPL a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex but the CF LPAR is not there

2023-11-15 Thread Laurence Chiu
Thinking about a LPAR defined as being in a parallel sysplex with GRS=STAR. What happens if you IPL that LPAR and the CF is not active? Will it start, issue a WTOR or just fail? We are wondering what would happen if our LPAR was started at the DR site (off a replicated set of volumes) but the DR

Re: Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Jousma, David
Lennie, I can appreciate your RFE, we used to maintain multiple mastercat’s in our prod sysplex, but do not anymore.Mostly due to the extra efforts and issues you note in your RFE. Our OMVS and CSF datasets are in usercats.We do take catalog backups 4 times a day, and our master

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. https://ibm-z-hardware-and-operating

Better support for multiple master catalogs in a sysplex

2023-11-06 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have just raised an RFE regarding support for better sharing of VSAM system datasets (such as RACF, ICSF key stores and ZFS file systems) when used in a sysplex with multiple master catalogs. Please would you examine it and support of relevant for you. Thanks Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw

Auto: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-25 Thread Frederic Mancini
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Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-25 Thread Brian Westerman
While my advice is not to do it at all, that doesn't meant hat it isn't possible without a plex, just that it's really (really) not a good idea. I have been at sites that were okay with the exposure, and if you are really, really careful;, you will still occasionally have issues, but for the

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-25 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Amen to that. I used to share PDSE, but it was "last resort" and for single action. IMHO the only way to safely share PDSE data is to IEBCOPY it to PDSU (PS file) and IEBCOPY to PDSE. (context is cross-sysplex) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 20.06.2023 o 14:24, All

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-23 Thread P H
cable in Planning Fiber Links manual - GA23-1409. Regards Parwez Hamid​ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Dana Mitchell Sent: 22 June 2023 13:22 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX Where are you seeing

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-22 Thread Brian Westerman
, but this was the first that I came aware of something other than CF's and FC-CTCs. PSIFB - Parallel Sysplex InfiniBand ICA - Integrated Coupling Adapter IC - Internal Coupling link and then also FC-CTC which we already discussed. Brian

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-22 Thread Dana Mitchell
Where are you seeing this or what is it called? The only shortcut I of know is: https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/0/D78D2E0FE578329485258194006D1387/$file/SB10-7174-00.pdf With FICON partition-to-partition communication technology, communication between logical partitions

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-21 Thread Brian Westerman
According to the manual, you can configure them to be connected apparently without wires. I believe it does the route internally, but I can't really tell from the manual. There is probably a better manual because I seem to be seeing just the overview, bur it does appear to not need any

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Presumably a FICON wrap-around cable. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Dana Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 09:10:05 -0500

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-21 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 09:10:05 -0500, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: >Thanks everyone ... I will try the Backplane method and post results > Sorry, what exactly do you mean by 'Backplane method'? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-21 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Thanks everyone ... I will try the Backplane method and post results -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-21 Thread Allan Staller
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Can we use the back plain

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-20 Thread Brian Westerman
Yes, from the z13 up you are supposed to be able to create the connections. I have not tried it, but it seems to be outlined int he manuals. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-20 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Can we use the back plain of the z/14 to do the CTC thing? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-20 Thread Allan Staller
to SYSPLEX [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Even PDSE can be safely shared. If updates only occur from one LPAR and read

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Brian Westerman
There really is no "safe" way to share DASD without some sort of PLEX, either a full sysplex (with the CF's) or a baisc (baby) sysplex with Ficon adapters as CTC's. Otherwise, Catalog sharing is problematic and PDS/e sharing is not possible, and actually neither is standard P

SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Steve Beaver
Google and the document setting a SYSPLEX will walk you through how to set a PLEX up Regards, Steve Beaver -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2023 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but SYSPLEX. Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities. Regarding to the topic: in order to share

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's possible to share some things, but others can only be safely shared within a sysplex. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gorlinsky Sent: Monday, June 19, 2023 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: GRS setup for MONOPLEX

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes, PDSE do require SYSPLEX. Not GRS-plex, not CA-MIM (or MII), but SYSPLEX. Reason: PDSE use sysplex communication, not GRS facilities. Regarding to the topic: in order to share datasets you need ...nothing. No parallel sysplex No base sysplex Not even GRSplex No SMSplex Simply nothing except

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Michael Babcock
That’s exactly what we do. We share the SMS config though. On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:04 AM Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > I think I will do the same ... put in it the PLEX but run with a different > master catalog, spool, etc. > > Thanks > >

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
I think I will do the same ... put in it the PLEX but run with a different master catalog, spool, etc. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Michael Babcock
tem that references TSO user and ISV catalogs and > datasets. The sandbox has a unique master catalog but shares virtually > everything else. > > It does have access to the couple facility that the Sysplex is using ... > But it is not a member of the Sysplex. > > Is it possible fo

Re: GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Ira Nelson
Yes but the monoplex needs to communicate over CTCs to the SYSPLEX. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Paul Gorlinsky wrote: > > We have a sandbox system that references TSO user and ISV catalogs and > datasets. The sandbox has a unique master catalog but shar

GRS setup for MONOPLEX to SYSPLEX

2023-06-19 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
We have a sandbox system that references TSO user and ISV catalogs and datasets. The sandbox has a unique master catalog but shares virtually everything else. It does have access to the couple facility that the Sysplex is using ... But it is not a member of the Sysplex. Is it possible

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-10 Thread Laurence Chiu
This is a vendor package. Upon asking they said they only support RLS for sharing. So there are no other options. On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 2:58 PM Dale R. Smith > > IBM has a product called "CICS VSAM Transparency for z/OS" that claims you > can migrate VSAM Files to Db2 Tables without having to

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-10 Thread Laurence Chiu
Hadn't considered that. Based on what the outsourcer has advised us I doubt this has even crossed their mind. On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 6:19 PM Timothy Sipples wrote: > The only other thing I can think of is that some operators (some > outsourcers for example) might not have — or know how to perform

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
The only other thing I can think of is that some operators (some outsourcers for example) might not have — or know how to perform — capacity measurement, planning, chargeback accounting (ugh!), or contractual arrangements when running the CFCC on general purpose processors (CPs). Those are not

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-08 Thread Laurence Chiu
That is my view. The application team won't care if the application is performing slowly since this is just a functional test. It means a path to HA on the production server. And in my view it doesn't matter if the engine is an ICF of GP - the load is going to be low on it. On Thu, Mar 9, 2023

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-08 Thread Martin Packer
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's? The debate I am having with the outsourcer is whether or not it's feasible or even practical to run a test CF on a general purpose engine. They say it requires

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-07 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
CICS/VSAM transparency may not solve this problem. You would need to implement DB2 data sharing and that's not simple if you don't already use data sharing. ISI Pty in Melbourne also market a VSAM transparency product. I supported this product for many years and it is still in use at one large

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-07 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:35:09 +1300, Laurence Chiu wrote: >Just to explain why we need two LPARs. The application uses a VSAM dataset >which is updated for all incoming transactions. If we want to run two >instances of that application on two different LPARs to provide >availability even if one

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-07 Thread Laurence Chiu
gt; 3. If you do run two or more z/OS instances (a "Parallel Sysplex in a > box") that can be a lovely configuration, but just bear in mind if the site > or machine go offline (planned or unplanned) then you lose the whole > Sysplex. Nonetheless a "Parallel Sysplex in

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Laurence Chiu
HTH > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Laurence Chiu > > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 9:34 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel > >

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Laurence Chiu
DU > Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel > Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's? > > [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust > the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing > email, which can steal your In

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
-Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf Of Mike Schwab > > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 1:12 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel > > Sysplex 0 >

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
ng a CP for a test Parallel > Sysplex 0 > anyh gotcha's? > > And this was long before Thin ICF provisioning on a CP with interrupts. > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 3:07 PM Attila Fogarasi wrote: > > > > Perhaps your outsourcer will accept recommendations by IBM in an of

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
; -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > > Of Laurence Chiu > > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 9:34 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel > > Sysple

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Attila Fogarasi
ed between *your* > test/production sysplexes. > > HTH > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Laurence Chiu > Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 9:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-06 Thread Allan Staller
TSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
more z/OS instances. A single z/OS instance with a single CF is the minimum configuration for those VSAM features. 3. If you do run two or more z/OS instances (a "Parallel Sysplex in a box") that can be a lovely configuration, but just bear in mind if the site or machine go offline (

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Since you will be the only user, no one else will be impacted. On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 3:49 PM Laurence Chiu wrote: > > That's the debate I'm having. The CF is only to support VSAM RLS and most > of the time only one member of the sysplex will be up so the load on the CF >

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Laurence Chiu
That's the debate I'm having. The CF is only to support VSAM RLS and most of the time only one member of the sysplex will be up so the load on the CF is not going to be high. I just can't persuade the outsourcer we don't need a dedicated engine for the CF. On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 9:49 AM Seymour J

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Laurence Chiu [lch...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 10:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
[lch...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's? The debate I am having with the outsourcer is whether or not it's feasible or even practical to run a test CF

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-05 Thread Laurence Chiu
so much as this CF is only System B and for development so > > using a general purpose engine is not an issue for us. The MSU charges > are > > going to be low and we are prepared to pay those if it gets us our > parallel > > sysplex > > > > > > > > >

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-04 Thread Mike Schwab
care so much as this CF is only System B and for development so > using a general purpose engine is not an issue for us. The MSU charges are > going to be low and we are prepared to pay those if it gets us our parallel > sysplex > > > > > Thin CFs go to enabled wait when wor

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-04 Thread Laurence Chiu
ral purpose engine is not an issue for us. The MSU charges are going to be low and we are prepared to pay those if it gets us our parallel sysplex > Thin CFs go to enabled wait when work is completed, restart when > interrupt says there is work. > > Estimate is 3% light sharing t

Re: Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-04 Thread Mike Schwab
ere we > run our development LPARs and Z13 A is production. > > For critical business reasons an online application on our production LPAR > needs to be highly available and that means in a parallel sysplex. But our > outsourcer has told us it cannot be done for the following reasons b

Running a Coupling Facility using a CP for a test Parallel Sysplex 0 anyh gotcha's?

2023-03-03 Thread Laurence Chiu
The situation. We share a couple of Z13's with another (larger client). Z13 B is where we run our development LPARs and Z13 A is production. For critical business reasons an online application on our production LPAR needs to be highly available and that means in a parallel sysplex. But our

Re: Sysplex environment perform DEFRAG

2022-12-12 Thread Mike Schwab
Run defrag. Files open will not be touched. On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 9:44 PM Tommy Tsui wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone can share how to perform disk DEFRAG at the parallel sysplex > environment? Anything need to aware ? >

Sysplex environment perform DEFRAG

2022-12-12 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, Anyone can share how to perform disk DEFRAG at the parallel sysplex environment? Anything need to aware ? Thanks for sharing -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-10-02 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
I do ... I spend most of my day mentoring new sysprogs for Kyndryl ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-10-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
, 2022 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability BTW you and GP were my best mentors of that time Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
BTW you and GP were my best mentors of that time Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
[p...@atsmigrations.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability You can not believe how many "TAPES" critical to the success of a DR test have been lost or forgotten. The major one, the standalone IPL ut

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
You can not believe how many "TAPES" critical to the success of a DR test have been lost or forgotten. The major one, the standalone IPL utility tape. BTW the business that I am in today is DR/BC and Virtual Tape Appliance. My z/Appliance device emulates FICON attached 3480, 3490 and 3590

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Gorlinsky [p...@atsmigrations.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 9:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability Hello Seymour, The best thing to do is to turn this over to the lawyers. It is a breach of contract and the vendor needs to be held accountable

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Hello Seymour, The best thing to do is to turn this over to the lawyers. It is a breach of contract and the vendor needs to be held accountable. I have done two DR tests in the past thirty days and several of the vendors DONT require and immediately Key change. However, one vendor does and

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Martin Packer [martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 4:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability “Customers do the darnedest things…”  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ed Jaffe Date

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Mark A. Brooks
FYI, XCF does provide a "sysplex ID" that can be used to uniquely identify a sysplex for the life of the sysplex. That could be used to distinguish between two different sysplexes with the same name. A new sysplex ID is generated each time the sysplex st

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-30 Thread Martin Packer
“Customers do the darnedest things…”  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Ed Jaffe Date: Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 22:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability On 9/29/2022 5:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: > Right,

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/29/2022 5:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... Sysplex names are not necessarily unique -- test sysplex or DR site could

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Matt Hogstrom
> On Sep 29, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Mark A. Brooks wrote: > > Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. > Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense > SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... > Sysplex names are not necessarily uniq

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-29 Thread Mark A. Brooks
Right, I'm not aware of a UUID for a z/OS system. Every system in a given sysplex must have a unique name. In that sense SysplexName.SystemName might do the trick. But ... Sysplex names are not necessarily unique -- test sysplex or DR site could be using the same name

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Matt Hogstrom [m...@hogstrom.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability We had an internal debate about the stability of SYSNAME

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
That’s a good question … I hope I used the term z/OS instance and not LPAR in my question. A z/OS instance could be run on different CECs and LPARs at different times. There is no canonical UUID for an instance but I think there is likely an industry best practice that could be relied upon.

Re: SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Martin Packer
If it moves to another machine is it still the same LPAR? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matt Hogstrom Date: Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 13:59 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability We had an internal debate about

SYSPLEX / SYSNAME / SMFID stability

2022-09-28 Thread Matt Hogstrom
We had an internal debate about the stability of SYSNAME and smfID in a sysplex. The discussion was that smfID is not stable and can be changed and that there can be more than one system in a sysplex with the same sysname / smfid. I haven’t had a chance to try it out but the argument seems

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-12 Thread Rob Scott
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2022 3:06:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL] EXTERNAL EMAIL Rob, Just want to say, I think this is a great addition to SDSF. You folks at Rocket are really doing SDSF development right. Seamlessly

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-11 Thread kekronbekron
: > The SDSF "JS" action does not get sent to remote systems in the sysplex. It > reads data from a special JES2 dataset for the job locally. > > A possible reason for no data being shown is that the job on the remote > system is not in the same MAS. > > Rob Scott

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex

2022-08-11 Thread Keith Gooding
Mark. Sorry for the confusing terminology. I meant cross-system within the same sysplex. As I have already posted, the problem seems to be the lack of a journal dataset for STCs - it is working OK for journaled job classes. A conversion to SDSF RACF security was involved in the migration

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex

2022-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
>>different system in the sysplex. This is with z/os 2.5. On a 2.3 system the >>same happens except that the heading says ‘no job steps found’ (or similar >>message). >> >>Is anyone able to use JS cross-system or is this working as designed?. I am >>able t

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-11 Thread Keith Gooding
ote: > > Thank you Rob and Paul. At least I know that it should work. In fact I think > it *did* once work in the same sysplex at z/os 2.4 but I cannot be 100% sure. > > The systems are in the same MAS (2 systems sharing a JES2 spool and > checkpoint). Are there any ins

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex

2022-08-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 15:34:20 +0100, Keith Gooding wrote: >I found that the SDSF ‘JS’ (job steps) command issued from the SDSF panels or >via the REXX API produces no output if the target job is running on a >different system in the sysplex. This is with z/os 2.5. On a 2.3 system t

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-11 Thread Keith Gooding
Thank you Rob and Paul. At least I know that it should work. In fact I think it *did* once work in the same sysplex at z/os 2.4 but I cannot be 100% sure. The systems are in the same MAS (2 systems sharing a JES2 spool and checkpoint). Are there any instructions in the SDSF configuration that I

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-11 Thread Rob Scott
The SDSF "JS" action does not get sent to remote systems in the sysplex. It reads data from a special JES2 dataset for the job locally. A possible reason for no data being shown is that the job on the remote system is not in the same MAS. Rob Scott Rocket Software Sent from Sams

Re: SDSF JS command cross-sysplex [EXTERNAL]

2022-08-11 Thread Feller, Paul
Keith, I'm assuming you are talking about looking at job on a different lpar in the same sysplex, also part of the same JES MAS. This is a display of a job running on a different lpars then the one I was logged on to. This is a z/OS 2.4 environment. SDSF JOB STEP DISPLAY - JOB DTSTM01D

SDSF JS command cross-sysplex

2022-08-11 Thread Keith Gooding
I found that the SDSF ‘JS’ (job steps) command issued from the SDSF panels or via the REXX API produces no output if the target job is running on a different system in the sysplex. This is with z/os 2.5. On a 2.3 system the same happens except that the heading says ‘no job steps found

Re: SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

2022-07-05 Thread Martin Packer
>>> Does anyone have a .pdf of an old IBM redbook called 'System/390 MVS >>> Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' (SG24-2557) that they'd be willing to >>> share? > > Michael, > > Does book manager format help? > > https://www.ibm.com/resources/publica

Re: SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

2022-06-30 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> Does anyone have a .pdf of an old IBM redbook called 'System/390 MVS >> Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' (SG24-2557) that they'd be willing to >> share? Michael, Does book manager format help? https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SG2425

Re: SG24-2557 'System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' .pdf?

2022-06-30 Thread allan winston
30, 2022 at 8:44 PM Michael Watkins < 032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Does anyone have a .pdf of an old IBM redbook called 'System/390 MVS > Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance' (SG24-2557) that they'd be willin

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