Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Sent: 07 November 2019 16:41 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 02:21:29 -0600, Barbara Nitz wrote: >"We don't document that you cannot wash dishes with a CPU!" That's a good one, Barbara! This discussion has come up before, an

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another Ok, back with ftp then. It keeps thing a little simple. As Americans, they should know that they must document that you cannot dry your cat in the microwave. If ftp cannot handle the standard recfm=u format, it should

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 02:21:29 -0600, Barbara Nitz wrote: >"We don't document that you cannot wash dishes with a CPU!" That's a good one, Barbara! This discussion has come up before, and I thought I remembered someone saying that DFD

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 02:21:29 -0600, Barbara Nitz wrote: >"We don't document that you cannot wash dishes with a CPU!" That's a good one, Barbara! This discussion has come up before, and I thought I remembered someone saying that DFDSS will write blocks up to 64K bytes, so I looked and found the

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
a system or a migrationproject). Can anyone from IBM comment on this? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: 07 November 2019 09:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-07 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Did you transport the catalog dump dataset with ftp? Yes. I started out just adrdssu dumping the catalog, then ftp'ing. After restore and import the catalog was broken. Putting terse between the dump and ftp fixed the problem. >If yes, this might again point to ftp. >If not, the problem must

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
other programs reading it. This should be documented with DFdss in my opinion. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: 07 November 2019 06:30 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Bruce Hewson
Tom, one reason for IODF Restore to build an unusable file is when it restores with multiple extents. IODF datasets must be single extent only. Regards Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
>For over a year, I FTP'd a DFDSS dump of my IODF file to every LPAR that >needed it. Worked fine, until it didn't. IBM's response to the PMR that I >opened is that the only 100% reliable way to FTP a DFDSS dump file was to >terse it first. IBM does not support direct FTP of a DFDSS dump

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Tom Conley
On 11/6/2019 10:02 AM, Vernooij, Kees - KLM , ITOP NM wrote: Can you point to where that is documented? We FTP a lot b.m.o. DFDSS between Sysplexes. Kees. Kees, I cannot find it documented anywhere. It's what IBM told me in response to a PMR. Regards, Tom Conley

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Seymour J Metz
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:18 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > So do we. > > And I wonder what the actual problem is? If the DFDSS dump dataset has > such a special (internal) format, that

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Sean Gleann
TERSE do this without problems? > >> > >> If it FTP only, what is the special problem for FTP? What other dataset > >> formats are a problem for FTP? > >> > >> Questions, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt... > >> > >> Kees. > >> > >

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread David Spiegel
Questions, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt... >> >> Kees. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler >> Sent: 06 November 2019 16:11 >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 06 November 2019 16:24 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:18 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > So do we. > > And I wonder what the actual problem is? If the DFD

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:18 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > So do we. > > And I wonder what the actual problem is? If the DFDSS dump dataset has > such a special (internal) format, that FTP cannot always handle it > correctly, why can AMATERSE do this without

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Kees. > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On Behalf Of Tom Conley > > Sent: 06 November 2019 15:46 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another > &

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread David Spiegel
om: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: 06 November 2019 16:11 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another > > I have always FTP a DFDSS dump of "things" - What I was told to

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
are a problem for FTP? Questions, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt... Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: 06 November 2019 16:11 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another I have

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
to restore from the DFDSS dump. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 8:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
___ > From: Tom Conley > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another > > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpecte

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-06 Thread Tom Conley
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Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Mike Schwab
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Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Jousma, David
Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 From: Tom Conley Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 5:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread David Spiegel
ainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Tom Conley > Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 2:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another > > On 11/5/2019 3:11 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >> I always terse the dump file too. Had issues

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another On 11/5/2019 3:11 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > I always te

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Tom Conley
On 11/5/2019 3:11 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: I always terse the dump file too. Had issues with Restore if the file wasn't tersed. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 03:53 Pierre Fichaud wrote: Dave, I'll do that. The files are not big. They can be sent as ZIP files. Thanks, Pierre

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I always terse the dump file too. Had issues with Restore if the file wasn't tersed. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 03:53 Pierre Fichaud wrote: > Dave, > I'll do that. The files are not big. > They can be sent as ZIP files. > Thanks, Pierre > >

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Pierre Fichaud
Dave, I'll do that. The files are not big. They can be sent as ZIP files. Thanks, Pierre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:00 PM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I transport ZFS's via FTP all the time. DFDSS dump and restore. > That sounds like a winner to me. My first thought was to use the UNIX "pax" utility. But ADRDSSU of the actual zFS LDS

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
You should be able to use anything that supports Unix files, including e-mail and various forms of FTP. What do you normally use for file transfer with that customer? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Allan Staller
df/DSS DUMP of the ZFS. Use the transportation method of your choice. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pierre Fichaud Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another A customer wants to send us

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

2019-11-05 Thread Jousma, David
I transport ZFS's via FTP all the time. DFDSS dump and restore. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids,