IDE project integration works fine for non-osgi. we've had many problems
with OSGi project generation.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Mark Maxey markma...@verizon.net wrote:
I gave up on this, could never get bundle tests to consistently work.
And keeping your IDE and gradle builds in
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Mark Maxey markma...@verizon.net wrote:
I'd strongly consider unit testing in an OSGi container using something
like PaxExam https://ops4j1.jira.com/wiki/display/PAXEXAM3/Pax+Exam and
using bndtools http://bndtools.org/
I gave up on this, could never get bundle
-24 at 10:59 -0700, phil swenson wrote:
The reason I brought up Play/Akka is as far as I know is there is no
equiv
on ceylon/kotlin/etc. if someone wants to adopt a new language, it sure
is
nice if you don't have to roll your own ecosystem.
Cayla
ConcurrenCey
Kara
I personally am
at 3:10 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:59 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.comwrote:
The reason I brought up Play/Akka is as far as I know is there is no
equiv on ceylon/kotlin/etc. if someone wants to adopt a new language, it
sure is nice if you don’t
well put! I agree with everything you wrote, with the possible exception
of your point on functional vs unit tests.
1) Writing functional tests only leads to a very slow test suite (clean db,
startup server, etc)
2) unit tests help you write better code. code that can be swapped
out/mocked,
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Russel Winder rus...@winder.org.ukwrote:
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:39 -0700, phil swenson wrote:
cayla has no checkins for month, not exactly promising for new web
framework
On the other hand it hasn't had checkins for a month which might mean
i really don’t think an IDE is a full substitute.
it sure would be nice to attach a REPL into a running java process and
inspect/modify state…
and assume it’s avail on any java install so that you can leverage it on a
system in prod.
but you are right, it’s not a limitation of java really, it’s
is remote. I’m thinking ssh to a box and run a repl to an existing
process.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:03 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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it sure would be nice to attach a REPL into a running java process
systems avail to java. And it has no good
Play/Rails/Grails equiv. But it's a nice start...
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.comwrote:
On 19 February 2014 22:10, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote:
On 20 Feb 2014, at 9:46, phil swenson wrote:
IMO
IMO the main thing scala has going for it is Play/Akka….
I keep more and more play mentions at meetups/hacker news/etc. It seems to
be gaining traction
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 8:57 PM, clay claytonw...@gmail.com wrote:
, 2013, at 3:13 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
It's better than naked sql, but I think it should be a DSL - not XML.
I would like the ability to add code to my migrations, sometimes data
needs to be transformed during a migration. And code lets you do
dynamic things that XML
Part of the problem is almost every example of any project I see that
talks about spring integration has XML based examples. Example:
http://camel.apache.org/spring.html
Looking at the Java Configuration stuff for spring now, looks interesting.
For the expression stuff in spring XML like this:
I should clarify myself, I really meant Almost no one in
the java world seems to use dynamic XML for *configuration*
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:09 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
Part of the problem is almost every example of any project I see that
talks about spring integration
15:13:43 +0100, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
wrote:
I should clarify myself, I really meant Almost no one in
the java world seems to use dynamic XML for *configuration*
Ah-ha! But I answered before reading this. So I'm almost no one in the
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Has anyone found an open source java (or JVM) project that implements
anything like rails-like migrations? All I see are naked SQL script
migration techniques.
In rails a migration looks something like this:
class AddWallIdToProjects ActiveRecord::Migration
def change
add_column
Thanks, that looks really nice!
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Josh Berry tae...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you seen scala-migrations? http://code.google.com/p/scala-migrations
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:52 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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Has anyone found an open source java
It's better than naked sql, but I think it should be a DSL - not XML.
I would like the ability to add code to my migrations, sometimes data
needs to be transformed during a migration. And code lets you do
dynamic things that XML won't allow.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Wayne Fay
/execute_shell_command
Thanks
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:13:00 +0100, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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It's better than naked sql, but I think it should be a DSL - not XML.
I would like the ability to add code
the code, so I don't get that either….
Scala migrations is exaclty the type of thing I was thinking about.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Thomas Queste tque...@gmail.com wrote:
@Phil: Flyway can mix both SQL and Java migrations.
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM, phil swenson
Interesting, Cédric. Very strong endorsement.
Are you coding in plain javascript or using Coffescrit/Dart/something else?
What is the server side you are developing against? Java/node.js/?
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:33
There are a handful of reasons why windows dominates for consumers:
- much cheaper than mac
- inertia
- perception that mac doesn't have enough software
I definitely wouldn't recommend linux for an average joe. Any printer
or peripheral you buy may not work with linux. Example: I bought a
.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Jon Kiparsky jon.kipar...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently it's in wide use in much of the world. For example, Casper says
it's pretty much mandatory where he is. I don't think it's getting killed
any time soon.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Phil Swenson phil.swen
What is it going to take to get oracle to just kill java in the browser? It's
an unneeded/obsolete embarrassment.
On Jan 11, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Naturally. It's the first time, over the last couple of JRE bugs, that my
bank officially on their front
option
3) appropriate screen resolution for coding.
On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 16:34:46 UTC-4, phil swenson wrote:
I have a MBP 15 Retina. So effective 1440x900 desktop (but 2880x1800
in reality). I took intellij's font size down a bit and love it.
Perfectly clear, incredibly readable text
you going to use it with OS X or Linux?
OS X it will have a desktop layout like 1280x800, but with super sharp
text (you can reduce your IDE font to be very small and it will still
be legible)
If you are running linux, is will present as 2560x1600.
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Fabrizio
, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:11:05 +0200, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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you going to use it with OS X or Linux?
OS X it will have a desktop layout like 1280x800, but with super sharp
text (you can reduce
This covers it more completely:
http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/myth-copyright-theft-apple-stole-gui-from-xerox-parc-alto/
Cedric - Xerox lost their lawsuit. Somehow you forgot to mention that.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:50
dammit! wish i could retract my snark. It's in your quote. sorry
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
This covers it more completely:
http://obamapacman.com/2010/03/myth-copyright-theft-apple-stole-gui-from-xerox-parc-alto/
Cedric - Xerox lost
not if they just pick the good ones. there are like 2 :)
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jan Goyvaerts java.arti...@gmail.comwrote:
That will be a *very* long episode ! :-)
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Fergus Nelson
fergus.nel...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi Posse,
I have been really
the storm by telling which. :-p
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:11 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.comwrote:
not if they just pick the good ones. there are like 2 :)
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jan Goyvaerts java.arti...@gmail.comwrote:
That will be a *very* long episode ! :-)
On Thu, Sep
Using the optical drive as an example doesn't help your case IMO. People
bitched when apple ditched the floppy drive. I look at PCs and still see
the crappy old VGA connector. Sometimes you have to ditch what is
obviously on it's way out. Give the old tech a nudge out the door.
As for iOS, I
Apple is clearly not satisfied with the normal provider supply-chain and
prefers to assimilate what it can get away with.
What do you mean?
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote:
Apple is clearly not satisfied with the normal provider supply-chain and
:06:14 PM UTC+2, phil swenson wrote:
Apple is clearly not satisfied with the normal provider supply-chain
and prefers to assimilate what it can get away with.
What do you mean?
I'm referring to the fact, that Apple tends to think very wide it's quest
for dominance and loves when it can
I don't quite follow. Are you talking software, hardware, or both? Their
hardware (the chips) is a combination of OTS parts + hiring companies to
implement their SOC designs.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Casper
that's a great post Cedric. But aren't you the one always defending the US
patent system?
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.comwrote:
A quick look at Samsung's gigantic product portfolio,
First, let me say I think software patents should be abolished or at the
very least the patent terms should be much shorter given the fast moving
nature of the software business.
Dick mentioned that Apple copied Xerox Parc and seemed to indicate it was
the same thing as Samsung copying Apple. I
That's a great solution. Kill Applets/JWS. Maybe they could put those
resources into something useful. They lost the UI wars (esp in the
browser) many years ago.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Puybaret puyba...@eteks.com wrote:
The most weird thing is that Oracle didn't communicate on its
I was in Aspen Colorado a few weeks ago and noticed the brick pavers on the
ground had patent 1901 on them. You know the little paper roller at the
bottom of a coat hanger? Patented.
Perhaps software patents aren't any more absurd than they ever have been.
Perhaps the whole patent system is a
According to the evolution of adopted languages, Java, C, C# and ObjC (which
BTW has reached the 3rd position according to Tiobe) are the ones adopted by
the industry. That is, there has been no evolution of the top languages in
fifteen years and clearly Scala, Roby, Python and what else are
20, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:34:25 +0200, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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very flawed statistics (tiobe).
If you want to know where the mindshare of new stuff is, take a look at
github.
Tiobe is surely flawed
To me this is another sign that Java needs a reboot. It seems like
all the legacy and compatibility issues have become a really heavy
burden to bear.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jan Goyvaerts java.arti...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
javascript is also really taking off on the server side:
checkout node.js, backbone, and meteor
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote:
For purely client-side stuff, my favourite stack right now is:
http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ +
http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/25/google-tries-to-block-u-s-shipments-of-apples-iphone-over-3g-patents
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So apparently java 6 on mac already supports retina displays.
Here is how to fix on IntelliJ: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-87500
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two more great links on patents:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/21/do-patents-really-matter-to-startups-new-data-reveals-shifting-habits/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/opinion-eff-should-call-for-the-elimination-of-software-patents/
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I think you are right that patents aren't killing innovation in the
US. This is pretty obvious as most of the innovations seems to stem
from the US - esp the silicon valley area. Look at the location of
the top 20 market cap tech companies that have formed in the last 10
years if you want proof.
I gather that java will need to be updated for the new mac book pro's
retina display.
I wonder how long it will take for mac java? And who is in charge of
this? Apple? Oracle?
Anyone know?
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Is it anything other than a higher resolution display? If not, why would
Java need updating?
On Jun 14, 2012 1:49 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
I gather that java will need to be updated for the new mac book pro's
retina display.
I wonder how long
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/app-store-enigma-the-patent-holder-the-developer-and-the-voiceless-child/
Good example of the harm from software patents.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:27 PM, phil swenson phil.swen
http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/08/apple-motorola-patent-case-judge-dismisses-with-prejudice/
Judge Richard Posner, one of the most distinguished legal minds in the
United States, sounds absolutely fed up with Apple and Motorola
Mobility for wasting his time with their patent suits. In fact, Posner
I think this bit of goodness is the exception, not the rule.
Look at all the patent trolling going on (Lodsys). Look at the
monster patent portfolios being built (Google, Apple, Oracle,
Microsoft, Nortel consortium) to attack and defend.
At the very least, patent durations are crazy long for
Kotlin looks nice. Best java replacement contender I've seen so far.
I do think it could benefit from a bit more syntactic sugar (like
array/map literals, null should evaluate to false) though….
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:19
I think groovy is a good name myself. Why does software have to be dry?
Anyway, Groovy 2.0 will kill Groovy++.
But I think annotations are the wrong way to add static to the lang.
Guessing they had to for backwards compatibility? Ugly.
As I've said before, I think if groovy had been created as
How many people in the real world seriously only use/produce free open
source software?
Even the latest JDK 7u4? In any case if one uses IntelliJ IDEA is not a
fully open source Linux guy.
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what I meant was both…
People who only use and only produce open source software.
There are some I'm sure. But not many I'd bet.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
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On Tue, 29 May 2012 21:55:12 +0200, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
most teachers
1) teach the same stuff year after year, use same lesson
plans/homework, slightly alter tests. might be challenging for year
1/2
2) make students grade homework/tests
discipline - yep - it's a challenge
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Jon Kiparsky jon.kipar...@gmail.com wrote:
It's their job/core skill set to know HTML inside and out. Who wants
to become an expert in Latex?
And Powerpoint/Keynote make it easy to make an attractive presentation quickly.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM, clay claytonw...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do so many web programmers scoff at WYSIWYG
google search java file
response: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/io/File.html
1.4.2
Really?
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On Tue, 01 May 2012 19:41:57 +0200, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com
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On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:46:05 PM UTC+2, phil swenson wrote:
I remember being very disappointed when I first looked at Java for
writing desktop UIs. It was a huge step backwards from
So, it's not events but first class functions and it's not a Swing problem,
but a Java problem. In Groovy or Scala with Swing you can do that.
This is correct. But when these guys were writing the Swing APIs, it
seems to me the Swing guys should have gone to the Language Guys and
said WTF. We
click listener isn't a method
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ricky Clarkson ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote:
sendButton.addMouseListener(clickListener);
On May 2, 2012 11:51 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to know what does he mean with no events.
in Delphi you
on the First Class Methods proposal from 2008 or so. I
agree but don't think adding a new kind of type and syntax just for events
is flexible enough.
On May 2, 2012 12:54 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
click listener isn't a method
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ricky Clarkson
I'm not sure how we got from method pointers to closures
well in a langage w/o pointers - seems like closures fit the bill, no?
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Simon Ochsenreither
simon.ochsenreit...@googlemail.com wrote:
You make it sound as if it was the fault of Closures.
BTW: Tiobe ...
I remember being very disappointed when I first looked at Java for
writing desktop UIs. It was a huge step backwards from all the
lessons learned from Delphi and VB in the 90s. No properties, no
events, layout hell, overly complicated APIs.
It's like the engineers at Sun didn't even look at
You know what would be a good PR boost for Java on the client? A java
UI that didn't feel sluggish. Been 15+ years and I'm still waiting
for a speedy Java UI.
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
Given this
is very snappy, responsive and looks good too. Id
also say that IntelliJ is like that (but i havent used too much of it)
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
wrote:
You know what would be a good PR boost for Java on the client? A java
UI that didn't feel
This guy claims:
Unfortunately, Java's designers didn't seem to value CPU time at all.
The language has a nasty reputation for sluggish interfaces, and its
execution speed drags well behind C++'s. Pointer aliasing or not we
are many generations of optimisers away from languages such as Java
I bet 95-99% of PC/Mac users wouldn't notice if all of a sudden java
disappeared from their machines.
In the real world, java is a server technology. Almost all UI use is
for tools/IDEs. On my box for example, the only Java UIs I use are
IDEs (Intellij/Eclipse/RubyMine/AppCode) and DB
, but not just a little bit better - MUCH
better.
2012/4/11 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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To take off there are many factors needed. IMO they are something
like: 1) big backer 2) syntax/features that get people
I think top 10 in Tiobe seems reasonable. After that I am skeptical.
I mean Delphi #13? Really?
PL/SQL making a big move?
But Scala is niche. Do a job search for Scala.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote:
As with all changes in Tiobe, I think most
If one of your goals is building your resume, I wouldn't mess with
these 3 party frameworks that wrap mobile dev. Also, the results
aren't as nice and the idioms are different on each platform, so these
apps become least common denominator apps that look amateurish IMO.
Even when you wrap it,
it on their phone even though it is a different user experience than the
other apps.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:01 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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If one of your goals is building your resume, I wouldn't mess with
these 3 party frameworks that wrap mobile dev. Also
they have, they might be happy to have
it on their phone even though it is a different user experience than the
other apps.
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:01 PM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
If one of your goals is building your resume, I wouldn't mess with
these 3 party frameworks
I would be stunned if they did that. The reason they changed their
mind was all the push-back from developers.
2012/4/9 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com:
I've heard good things about phonegap in general but I would be very nervous
writing my apps with it because Apple could once again change
Our platform is not about typical CRUD. We do not have a html
front-end for example. Or a relational db. We use Mongodb.
We are also concerned about the runtime performance of Grails as well
as how long it takes to startup in Jetty.
I don't know Grails very well, but I am certain that you are
I think github is mostly an indicator of bleeding edge dev, not dev in
general.
2012/3/8 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com
Github gives some general information https://github.com/languages/ on
the projects they host that I find pretty interesting.
The top ten languages:
JavaScript
. restful URLs that also use fragments are client side only
so don't really relate to server frameworks.
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:39 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com
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1) restful
The grid doesn't seem useful to me. Maybe if I heard the presentation
I'd see the value.
You have to make some value judgements.
To me the values are off the top of my head (with no weighting or
order, and probably incomplete):
1) restful URLs
2) ease of development/productivity
3) performance
All good points Cedric. So which framework meets these criteria?
2012/2/17 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com
wrote:
My only critique is that I prefer scalate's jade templating language over
play's own templates. But
does wicket still have troubles with restful URLs?
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote:
-1 for Wicket.
We did a web framework bake-off and wicket lost for 2 reasons:
designer friendliness (lack thereof) and violation of the DRY
principle.
(see
here is an example of a wicket URL (for artifactory):
http://artifactoryserver:8082/artifactory/webapp/?wicket:interface=:2
Horrible!
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:37 AM, phil swenson phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote:
does wicket still have troubles with restful URLs?
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12
kotlin looks cool in some ways. but it's short on syntactic sugar (no
list/map/reg ext literals). no dynamic types. no personality. so
not sure if anything sets it apart from all the other JVM langs.
I would look more to Groovy/Ruby/Coffeescript for a bit of inspiration.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012
Dead on. What Cedric said.
2012/2/10 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com:
Agree with this, today, I would use Play, Bootstrap and jQuery in a
heartbeat.
You'll get up to speed in no time and after that, you can iterate to make
your site more customized.
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at
what exactly does end of life mean for java anyway?
I still see java 5 a lot…. I assume it's been EOLed.
2012/2/3 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Robin freebana...@gmail.com wrote:
Java 6 is EOL in July this year
I'm predicting that Oracle will push this
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Rakesh rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com wrote:
The Lead Architect does not personally know Ruby or code anymore. He
has been sitting next to a lone-Ruby dev for a few months who has
convinced him Ruby is the way to go. The Lead Architects heart is in
the right
http://blog.crazybob.org/2011/12/truth-about-android-ios-ui-performance.html
basically says nothing inherent about android that prevents great, smooth
UIs. But the android tools suck, simulator is terrible.
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I wouldn't be too scared of Ruby. You guys are in the software business -
change and learning new things are the norm.
In 2005 I was at a startup full of Java devs that went Ruby. It was fun,
got me hooked.
My side projects are all Ruby, despite my day job being Java/Groovy. Ruby
is more
perf is not the reason to switch. maintainability/tools is much more
compelling justification.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Steven Huwig st...@huwig.info wrote:
You could point out that Apple made this exact transition back in 2000 or
so. WebObjects used to be in Objective-C, now it's
http://blog.joda.org/2011/11/scala-feels-like-ejb-2-and-other.html
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In Groovy 2.0, there will be static typing:
http://docs.codehaus.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=227053189
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It looks quite cool to me. But it's getting a bit crazy with the number of
JVM languages being created I think some consolidation would be good.
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First on Siri: Dick commented that it was uncool that Apple bought Siri and
didn't keep the Siri App alive. It's a server side service, so keeping the
app alive means maintaining a legacy service. If this is uncool then it's
also uncool that Google has killed off a bunch of services they bought.
I for one enjoy hearing opinions even if I don't agree. Listening to people
you agree 100% with is often boring.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM, work only vorlonsw...@gmail.com wrote:
I for one will never listen to Java Posse, just so ant Apple.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:36 AM, phil
I've never seen hiring people in other countries to work as remote members
of a team work well. Add in time zone differences, language barriers,
crappy phone systems, and your result is not nearly as good as a local team.
Feedback cycles can span days instead of minutes or hours.
sounds like
I agree with Cedric on this one (there is a first time for everything!)
unfortunately, dart doesn't have type inference.
bruce eckel's wrote a post on this very subject:
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=328540
2011/10/14 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com
Ok this is getting a
coffeescript's approach just seems more pragmatic. compiles to javascript -
works on everything. plus it's simply a cleaner, nicer syntax.
it doesn't pass the cool test. it looks like a rehashed java. my gut
says dart fails to get any uptake.
2011/10/11 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com
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I'm still puzzled by Dart's allowance of dynamic typing, though. What's the
rational here? Saving a few keystrokes just so you can prototype faster?
This doesn't make much sense.
this is what I think you don't get: most web devs like dynamic typing.
hang out on hacker news for a bit and
I can't believe the semicolon has survived. wtf!?
I would prefer a statically checked coffee-script. now that would be sweet.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Fabrizio Giudici
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote:
So, it seems Dart has been officially unveiled. The website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedantic
Java doesn't have closures in the way most people think of closures.
It has closures in a half-assed, un-friendly way. So people don't use
them much and in effect, Java doesn't have closures.
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