[jug-discussion] clover

2002-06-09 Thread Warner Onstine
Anyone checked out clover? I've been hearing alot about it lately, then there is also Quilt, but I don't know how the two compare feature-wise: http://www.thecortex.net/clover/ http://quilt.sf.net -warner +warner onstine

[jug-discussion] jxta

2002-06-09 Thread Warner Onstine
Anyone had any dealings with JXTA ( http://www.jxta.org)? Looks interesting. -warner +warner onstine+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[jug-discussion] drive recovery software os x

2002-06-20 Thread Warner Onstine
guys has something =). -warner +warner onstine+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] EJB QL + XDoclets = more EJB on more projects

2002-06-20 Thread Warner Onstine
Do I hear someone volunteering for an XDoclet presentation =). -warner - Original Message - From: Rick Hightower To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: [jug-discussion] EJB QL + XDoclets = more EJB on more projects EJB QL + XDoclets = more EJB on more

Re: [jug-discussion] drive recovery software os x

2002-06-20 Thread Warner Onstine
constitutes a unix zsh prompt without mounting the drive and attempting to run fsck, but I keep getting a zsh: Input/Output error: fsck. Which I haven't been able to find information about online. -warner Good luck! Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, I've recently had a crash (self-induced I think) of my

[jug-discussion] cvs tools

2002-06-21 Thread Warner Onstine
option is possibly subversion (subversion.tigris.org) a replacement for CVS, which also uses webdav as its protocol. Other ideas? -warner +warner onstine+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [jug-discussion] cvs tools

2002-06-21 Thread Warner Onstine
subversion (subversion.tigris.org) a replacement for CVS, which also uses webdav as its protocol. Other ideas? -warner +warner onstine+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [jug-discussion] Second time a charm

2002-06-24 Thread Warner Onstine
Wow, thanks Simon, really appreciated. -warner - Original Message - From: Simon Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Second time a charm Thomas Hicks wrote: Ah...now comes the learning curve. Since

Re: [jug-discussion] new idea

2002-06-26 Thread Warner Onstine
interested. Cool, I'll draft up my ideas and post them later tonight =), or send them to those personally interested. Don't want to waste people's bandwidth ;-). -warner Warner Onstine wrote: I have been banging around I an idea outlining how one would duplicate/emulate what amazon does in relation

Re: [jug-discussion] July Presentation and We need a new presentation coordinator

2002-07-03 Thread Warner Onstine
Thank you Nick for all of your work, I (personally) really appreciate it. -warner - Original Message - From: Nick Lesiecki To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: [jug-discussion] July Presentation and We need a new presentation coordinator Hello loyal

Re: [jug-discussion] Zoe - my current project ;-)

2002-08-15 Thread Warner Onstine
to educate us in its strengths/weaknesses? Thanks, Erik Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, As promised here is the link to what I hope will be everyone's next e-mail client, er, server, whatever ;-). http://sourceforge.net/projects/zoe http://guests.evectors.it/zoe/ Currently we are migrating

[jug-discussion] OGNL and WebOGNL mailing lists!

2002-09-20 Thread Warner Onstine
Well, I finally got some lists working for Drew: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit www.ognl.org for more information on what in the world I'm talking about. -warner

Re: [jug-discussion] security

2002-10-13 Thread Warner Onstine
On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 03:12 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote: Warner Onstine wrote: So, I just wanted to get some feedback from you guys on what kind of security system makes sense. Is the above one too complex, not enough? Seems very reasonable. I also wanted to find out what kind

[jug-discussion] Eclipse on OS X

2002-10-13 Thread Warner Onstine
Ok, So I got a reply to my post on the SWT list, the latest Stable drop on the downloads page will work with 10.1.5. So, all you Mac-o-philes can go grab it ;-). In other good news I am getting Jaguar tomorrow (yeah!). So, I can now check out jdk 1.4 ;-). -warner

Re: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Warner Onstine
- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop

Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 08:08 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my guess would be either

Re: [jug-discussion] interesting thoughts - publish to website?

2002-10-29 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi Tim, In short all of these would be good to put on the site. Currently I'm hosting it on my personal server (a g3 laptop running OS X). I prefer java solutions (I don't like downloading tons of perl files just run one program, but that's probably just my aversion to perl ;-). I am currently

Re: [jug-discussion] interesting thoughts - publish to website?

2002-10-29 Thread Warner Onstine
On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 12:41 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Warner et. al. - Ever get the feeling you're having a discussion in an empty auditorium? grin It happens, but I'm sure once they get un-busy they will join in ;-) Too many languages, not enough time. Currently I would like to

[jug-discussion] j2ee vs. .net

2002-10-30 Thread Warner Onstine
For those who don't read slasdot, here's an interesting paper. http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/30/ 1345214mode=threadtid=156 -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

[jug-discussion] OT - sql question

2002-10-31 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, My SQL skills are apparently a bit rusty (been a while since I've had to do any hard SQL ;-) and I would appreciate any help with this. I am working on my polling system and would like to send an e-mail to all members who have not voted. Member pk_member_id email PollVote member_id

Re: [jug-discussion] OT - sql question

2002-10-31 Thread Warner Onstine
Oops, goofed up my example sql a little, changes below: On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 08:07 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, My SQL skills are apparently a bit rusty (been a while since I've had to do any hard SQL ;-) and I would appreciate any help with this. I am working on my polling

Re: [jug-discussion] OT - sql question

2002-10-31 Thread Warner Onstine
are better off with: select email from Member left join PollVote on Member.pk_member_id = PollVote.member_id where PollVote.poll_id = :SelectedPoll Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, My SQL skills are apparently a bit rusty (been a while since I've had to do any hard SQL ;-) and I would appreciate any help

Re: [jug-discussion] Eclipse is better on Windows

2002-11-01 Thread Warner Onstine
On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 02:14 PM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote: I run Linux on my workstation. On top of Linux I run vmware and Windows 2000. Eclipse runs faster on Windows2000 in vmware than natively in Linux. Strange... I think the native SWT widgets make the difference. Are the SWT

[jug-discussion] apple's price drops

2002-11-06 Thread Warner Onstine
For those of you whining about getting an Apple laptop, well good news is here! Lower prices and faster models! -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] [dec presentation] survey of O/R tools

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 03:47 PM, Tim Colson wrote: I would like to offer a presentation for December's topic covering Object-Relational mapping tools. An emphatic +1 :-) Some of the tools I would be reviewing will be: Castor (castor.exolab.org) Hibernate

[jug-discussion] Sun will trademark anything

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
I just got the latest Java Developer Connection in my mail box and noticed this: Read about the next evolution of the Java Community ProcessSM (JCPSM), version 2.5. (October 31, 2002) For those of you who don't know SM - stands for Service Mark. Now why in the world would Sun put a service

Re: [jug-discussion] [dec presentation] survey of O/R tools

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Lesiecki Nicholas wrote: Warner says: I'd prefer not to [cover EJB/CMP] for a few reasons: 1) While I know that it is a kind of O/R it is not the kind I am interested in at the moment What kind are you interested in? Well, I personally have

Re: [jug-discussion] Sun will trademark anything

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
A, someone from Sun on the list (hides head in shame ;-). On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 06:16 PM, Rob Gingell wrote: For those of you who don't know SM - stands for Service Mark. Now why in the world would Sun put a service mark on this? Because it embeds a trademark. Yeah, I

[jug-discussion] list policy

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, It recently came to my attention that not everyone knows how this list works, I apologize for not making this clear. We also don't have any kind of welcome message, unfortunately I cannot change that right now (I'll have to talk with the sysadmin). So, I will clarify this now, to clear

Re: [jug-discussion] list policy

2002-11-13 Thread Warner Onstine
Of course if we do get the JUG setup as a non-prof with members we might be able to pay for meeting space and most likely we could get snacks ;-). Just a thought. -warner On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 09:49 PM, Tim Colson wrote: plus I'm still waiting to hear about my Membership

[jug-discussion] erik's new book on slashdot!

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
Just thought I'd share this - former JUG Alum Erik Hatcher's Ant book is reviewed on slashdot: http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/14/ 0326206mode=threadtid=108 -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[jug-discussion] dec. presentation recap

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
Ok, Before we get too deep here, I would like to know if we have enough +1's for O/R tools for the meeting: Tim +1 Warner +1 Nick +1 (even if no EJB?) Andy +1 Tom Hicks +1 I'll throw in Drew's +1, because he asked me about Torque a while ago, but I don't know if he'll be able to make it and I

[jug-discussion] dec. presentation/jan. presentation

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
Ok, Since the general consensus is that EJB requires it's own presentation - (BTW who did the last one and can we put a link on the site directing people to it?) I'm going to propose the following: Let's keep the current presentation to 4 tools (max), please vote for your favorite. Castor

Re: [jug-discussion] dec. presentation/jan. presentation

2002-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
My votes ;-) On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 02:03 PM, Warner Onstine wrote: Ok, Since the general consensus is that EJB requires it's own presentation - (BTW who did the last one and can we put a link on the site directing people to it?) I'm going to propose the following: Let's keep

[jug-discussion] Security and Realms

2002-11-16 Thread Warner Onstine
After some discussion with Erik privately about my security setup for my community tools project it has become clear that neither of us is entirely clear on Security Realms in the different containers. I think that this would be a good topic for the JUG, a quick 15 min. overview or a full

Re: [jug-discussion] ok this may be taking the whole mac thing a little far.

2002-11-19 Thread Warner Onstine
. Bullrider Ave. Tucson, AZ 85747 Phone:(520)574-1150 Fax:(520)844-1036 -Original Message- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] ok this may be taking the whole mac thing a little far. How'd I get

Re: [jug-discussion] Swing Patterns

2002-11-21 Thread Warner Onstine
What about the rest of us? What do we need to do to receive this wonderful recommendation ;-). Although not a patterns book per se, it is a great Swing book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1884777848/ qid=1037941641/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-5850641-4057530?v=glances=books Swing

[jug-discussion] Questioning XP

2002-11-22 Thread Warner Onstine
A good review of an interesting book: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/13/1550230 -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] Questioning XP CollabTool

2002-11-22 Thread Warner Onstine
Too bad it's still only available on Windows ;-). If you're on OS X you can also try iStorm (yet another i App ;-) which uses Rendezvous tech: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/istorm.html -warner On Friday, November 22, 2002, at 04:53 PM, Mike Oliver wrote: Tim, Yes

[jug-discussion] portable.net released

2002-11-24 Thread Warner Onstine
Well it looks like I will be learning .NET for various projects + it is good to know thy enemy ;-). I will be using Visual Studio .NET and will be looking at C# and J# (and probably VB.NET, uggh, won't that language die ;-). So, I was quite pleased to see that Portable.NET was released (maybe

Re: [jug-discussion] portable.net released

2002-11-24 Thread Warner Onstine
, last time I looked was VB5 and I wasn't impressed. I felt crippled rather than enabled. -warner Michael Oliver AppsAsPeers LLC 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. Tucson, AZ 85747 Phone:(520)574-1150 Fax:(520)844-1036 -Original Message- From: Warner Onstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday

[jug-discussion] after the talk on xp...

2002-11-27 Thread Warner Onstine
Came across this on another list I'm on: http://xpweb.sourceforge.net/ Looks interesting. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] HowTo: Sort a List of Hashes by a Hash Element

2002-12-05 Thread Warner Onstine
I believe you want to do a comparator: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/util/Comparator.html which can be passed into a collections.sort() method for custom sorting. -warner On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 05:39 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Okay - so probably there's a cookbook out there

Re: [jug-discussion] Open Source HTTP Servers

2002-12-08 Thread Warner Onstine
Yep, but if you want just an HTTP server, you can always check out Jigsaw: http://www.w3.org/Jigsaw/ -warner On Sunday, December 8, 2002, at 03:11 AM, Erik Hatcher wrote: Jetty http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty/index.html I'm sure you'll hear a ditto from Warner :) I've only ever heard glowing

Re: [jug-discussion] Tuesday's presentation

2002-12-09 Thread Warner Onstine
I just want to apologize to everyone but unfortunately I found out today that I will be getting my final take home exam tomorrow morning and will be due on Thursday so I have to concentrate on this test. This means that I will be writing most of the day on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, so I

Re: [jug-discussion] FYI: dom4j

2002-12-11 Thread Warner Onstine
First, thanks for listening Dennis! On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: (BTW, I don't have search bots constantly scanning mailing lists for reference to my articles so I can jump in on the discussion. :-) I've been on the Tucson list for a while since I get

[jug-discussion] inner classes/interfaces

2002-12-21 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I ran across this in someone else's code (with problems) and was curious if anyone knew the answer to this question: If I have defined an inner interface MyClass.Interface, can MyClass implement MyClass.Interface? When I compile I get a cyclic inheritance, which makes sense. But the

[jug-discussion] tomorrow's presentation

2003-01-13 Thread Warner Onstine
Due to time constraints I am considering dropping one of the O/R tools for the presentation. To recap here were the ones we had decided on: 1) Torque 2) hibernate 3) OJB - Object Relational Bridge 4) Castor JDO TJDO was mentioned but dropped. Torque and Hibernate are in, so I am looking at

[jug-discussion] I want one of these!

2003-01-25 Thread Warner Onstine
http://studioz.tv/events/refactoring Why can't we have events like this here? BTW - For those of you who don't know Studioz is run by Jon Stevens of Jakarta fame. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [jug-discussion] Vote for JUG Logo

2003-02-04 Thread Warner Onstine
I'm going to be conceited and vote for my own. +1 for Warner's ;-) (No saguaro, ever) -warner On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Webmaster wrote: Hi everyone, We've finally got several logos to choose from for the website logo. You can view the logo entries at:

[jug-discussion] good books on SOAP/Web Services

2003-02-05 Thread Warner Onstine
Looking for recommendations on the above books, specifically for the Java language. On a side note, has anyone read any good books on P2P stuff like JXTA? Thanks all. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [jug-discussion] Logo Disqualification

2003-02-20 Thread Warner Onstine
On Thursday, February 20, 2003, at 08:28 PM, Eduardo Bernal wrote: We have done some research and discovered that Eduardo's logo resembles the Sun Java logo too much and we cannot use it for the website. I've removed it from the table of logo entries under consideration. Of course, that's

[jug-discussion] javascript course

2003-03-07 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I will be unable to teach a javascript course next week (tue - fri, 5:30 - 9:30), it will range from intro to advanced (no dhtml though). Pay starts at $25/hr and goes up depending on the number of students. I can certainly help prep and will share slides and teaching materials. Please

[jug-discussion] tonight - doubletree

2003-03-11 Thread Warner Onstine
Shall we just meet at the doubletree then, 7? -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[jug-discussion] For those who haven't seen this yet - Apache announces J2EE stack

2003-08-10 Thread Warner Onstine
http://www.theserverside.com/home/ thread.jsp?thread_id=20763article_count=120 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [jug-discussion] For those who haven't seen this yet - Apache announces J2EE stack

2003-08-14 Thread Warner Onstine
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Dennis Sosnoski wrote: Warner Onstine wrote: From what I've read on the incubator site he is the basic breakdown of what they are doing: 1) They will have a snapshot of the Jboss code which will be a full J2EE stack This doesn't appear to match the FAQ

Re: [jug-discussion] August meeting

2003-08-14 Thread Warner Onstine
I for one was planning on attending. -warner On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 12:30 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Howdy Folks - The traffic on the list and attendance at the meetings for the last couple months has been...shall I say, less robust than normal. Summer months involve travel, family

Re: [jug-discussion] Mail archive missing recent posts(?)

2003-11-04 Thread Warner Onstine
Wow, that's weird. The mailbot that was subscribed to the list (by me), was gone. I have resubscribed the bot (I think it's a different address than it was before). -warner On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 12:59 AM, William H. Mitchell wrote: I was just noticing that the mail archive,

[jug-discussion] next tuesday?

2003-11-06 Thread Warner Onstine
Hey guys, A few people have pointed this out to me so I thought I would ask the list. Personally I have no problems with having the meeting next Tuesday. But because it is a holiday for many I want to ask everyone if this is still good. Elly is still up for presenting on that day (MD3 a java

Re: [jug-discussion] jsp debug taglib

2003-11-08 Thread Warner Onstine
On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 02:55 PM, Erik Hatcher wrote: On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 02:07 PM, Warner Onstine wrote: Hi all, After reading this post by Howard Ship: http://javatapestry.blogspot.com/ 2003_11_02_javatapestry_archive.html#106823763090126075 I realize that this would

Re: [jug-discussion] Pet Peave

2003-11-09 Thread Warner Onstine
Typically i do a google search on the package name with the class and try and determine from the results where it actually is. Of course it gets interesting when there are multiple versions in the jar. I've also used Apple's Jar viewer to help out in some situations. -warner On Sunday,

Re: [jug-discussion] next tuesday?

2003-11-09 Thread Warner Onstine
Alright, sounds like Tuesday is on! I for one am very much looking forward to it. I hope Ollie can make it as well to ask some good P2P questions of Ellie. -warner On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 01:37 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Howdy folks - I'm still good with the Tuesday meeting. Looks like

Re: [jug-discussion] frameworks

2003-11-11 Thread Warner Onstine
Ahh, almost forgot. While not a framework, more of a specification: http://internet.conveyor.com/RESTwiki/moin.cgi/FrontPage I couldn't find a java implementation, but it shouldn't be that difficult ;-). -warner On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Thomas Hicks wrote: Thanks,

Re: [jug-discussion] JXTA - replication?

2003-11-14 Thread Warner Onstine
On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Tim Colson wrote: Hey - Are the JXTA folks signed up to the list yet? Ellie? Jeremy? :-) Neither are right now. I have forwarded the message though. -warner The discussion was interesting, got me thinking again about p2p apps. The main topic (as I

Re: [jug-discussion] Web Frameworks site

2003-12-10 Thread Warner Onstine
Here's another: http://www.waferproject.org/index.html This one is only focused on Java WebApp Frameworks though. -warner On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Thomas Hicks wrote: I've noticed that many of our discussions in the past have been on the topic of web frameworks. I just ran

[jug-discussion] open source group calendaring

2003-12-19 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I am trying to find a simple group calendaring program (java would be nice but that doesn't appear to be a viable option yet). Here's what I've found so far and just want to know if anyone has used these. Or if there's something I've missed that would be great. PHP

Re: [jug-discussion] open source group calendaring

2003-12-19 Thread Warner Onstine
Cool. Little out of our price range right now, but definitely something to keep in mind. Thanks! -warner On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 08:10 PM, Randolph Kahle wrote: I am switching to Daylite for OS X. http://www.marketcircle.com It is multi-user, shared database. However, I have only

Re: [jug-discussion] Consulting groups in Tucson?

2003-12-23 Thread Warner Onstine
On Tuesday, December 23, 2003, at 02:28 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Before anybody gets excited, I'm just curious - not looking to hire. What are some of the IT consulting companies in Tucson that do custom programming/services (not specifically Java)? Well, here's a few that I know of specifically:

[jug-discussion] Fwd: Scripting [was Simple properties question...]

2004-01-10 Thread Warner Onstine
Very interesting note from Jason on a possible future of Maven. -warner Begin forwarded message: From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 10, 2004 12:12:55 PM MST To: Maven Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scripting [was Simple properties question...] Reply-To: Maven Users

[jug-discussion] jelly replacement

2004-01-10 Thread Warner Onstine
So, I've been hearing some noise about this on the Maven list. There is currently talk about replacing the plugins (which are currently written in jelly) with this: http://groovy.codehaus.org/ Why? From Jason Van Zyl, apparently there are some issues with Jelly Contexts as well as with Jexl.

[jug-discussion] michael craig?

2004-01-10 Thread Warner Onstine
Is there a Michael Craig on the list? If so send me an email off list. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] no volunteers - drinks

2004-01-12 Thread Warner Onstine
I'm down! With my shiny new 12 powerbook. Got wireless? (I know you do, or at least you better ;-). -warner On Jan 12, 2004, at 7:29 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Howdy Gang - I'm generally a fan of beer and wine, but does seem kind of a shame not to have a java topic first. :-( Curious - anybody

Re: [jug-discussion] intro

2004-01-12 Thread Warner Onstine
On Jan 12, 2004, at 7:44 PM, bam wrote: Greetings, My name is Bruce McDonough. I have been involved with Java since before the 1.0 release back in '95 or so. I am in the process of moving to the Tucson area, although I don't currently live there. I hope you don't mind me joining the list

[jug-discussion] no volunteers - how about just getting together over cocktails

2004-01-13 Thread Warner Onstine
I'll even let Timo name the place? -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [jug-discussion] tonight?

2004-01-13 Thread Warner Onstine
Well, I would love to do a short preso on something, but I haven't delved into anything enough to show it off. I guess I could show some of the Jelly stuff if we have a net connection. -warner On Jan 13, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Hey Folks - Looking at my original email, I see now

Re: [jug-discussion] February Meeting

2004-02-09 Thread Warner Onstine
+1! -warner On Feb 9, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Andrew Huntwork wrote: i would like to do a 15 min presentation on Java Bytecode Inspection, Manipulation, and Generation Using BCEL. Simon Ritchie wrote: [...] Any volunteers for a 15 min presentation would be welcome. Simon. -- I say to you that the

[jug-discussion] Test Subjects - IEEE Computer Society

2004-02-09 Thread Warner Onstine
I am forwarding this message on behalf of Tina Pacheco over at Interface Guru. Please respond to her with any questions. And, just so I'm clear, please don't respond to this message directly or it will go back to the list. (Thank you!) -warner - Dear JUG: Interface

[jug-discussion] code coverage

2004-02-11 Thread Warner Onstine
Since this came up in a few of the presentations last night I thought I'd post some follow-up links for y'all ;-) jcoverage - http://jcoverage.com quilt - http://quilt.sf.net If you scroll down to the bottom you will see that this project has been split: http://jxcl.sourceforge.net/

Re: [jug-discussion] code coverage

2004-02-11 Thread Warner Onstine
license, so I may try switching to that after the upcoming JiBX 1.0 release. - Dennis Warner Onstine wrote: Since this came up in a few of the presentations last night I thought I'd post some follow-up links for y'all ;-) jcoverage - http://jcoverage.com quilt - http://quilt.sf.net If you scroll

Re: [jug-discussion] FatCow - Confluence - and Non-Profits

2004-02-19 Thread Warner Onstine
Cool! I noticed Confluence a while back. Didn't know it was free for Non-Profs. Yep, I'd pony up my dues for that ;-). BTW - The domain is due to expire soon, it would be nice if someone else could pay for the two years this time 'round. Maybe a collection plate at the next meeting ;-). It

Re: [jug-discussion] Meeting Topic for March?

2004-02-25 Thread Warner Onstine
Yes, Cia and I will be doing Usability and Programming (focusing on Web and desktop apps). Rob Gingell (I believe) is singed on to do an update on the JCP. -warner On Feb 25, 2004, at 4:22 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Simon / Warner - I'm just curious if there is a topic(s) for March yet? If not -

Re: [jug-discussion] Meeting Topic for March?

2004-02-25 Thread Warner Onstine
Simon, are you writing these names down? ;-) -warner On Feb 25, 2004, at 4:31 PM, Ollie wrote: I am up for OGNL too +1 I would also like to volunteer to do a mini on Jakarta Slide. :-) -Original Message- From: Tim Colson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:22:44 To:[EMAIL

Re: [jug-discussion] Show your support. :-)

2004-02-25 Thread Warner Onstine
Wow. Weird. He was at the first couple of meetings and then, like a few of the early attendees, stopped coming. -warner On Feb 25, 2004, at 7:47 PM, Thomas Hicks wrote: At 06:43 PM 2/25/2004, Drew wrote: Lovely. I just signed up. What's with the other JUG? Tucson JUG - T-JUG Posted on

Re: [jug-discussion] RE: domain registration - cost

2004-02-26 Thread Warner Onstine
On Feb 26, 2004, at 8:35 AM, Tim Colson wrote: Warner wrote: BTW - The domain is due to expire soon, it would be nice if someone else could pay for the two years this time 'round. Maybe a collection plate at the next meeting ;-). It ain't much, I think $15/year. Looks like tucson-jug.org is

[jug-discussion] anyone see this?

2004-02-27 Thread Warner Onstine
Hey guys, Looks like we may have a livelier discussion on the JCP with Rob than I thought ;-). http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1539664,00.asp Check out the second page, where it mentions the illustrious Rob Gingell ;-). -warner

Re: [jug-discussion] anyone see this?

2004-02-27 Thread Warner Onstine
This is a reply from John Mitchell My java.net blog entries on this subject have some interesting discussion happening... http://weblogs.java.net/pub/wlg/1053 Take care, John On Feb 27, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Hey guys, Looks like we may have a livelier

[jug-discussion] Fwd: [TechOasisCommittee] *** Tech Oasis Nights: Tucson/Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale

2004-02-29 Thread Warner Onstine
This is the organizational meeting that Randy spoke about at the meeting. -warner From: Tech Oasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 29, 2004 1:00:37 PM MST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TechOasisCommittee] *** Tech Oasis Nights: Tucson/Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[jug-discussion] Fwd: Developing JXTA/Java Collaborative (P2P) Software is now simple

2004-02-29 Thread Warner Onstine
I am only forwarding this as I know several of us are doing p2p stuff. -warner Begin forwarded message: From: Tech Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 6, 2004 1:01:08 AM MST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Developing JXTA/Java Collaborative (P2P) Software is now simple Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: [jug-discussion] Calendars for Mtg Notice

2004-03-02 Thread Warner Onstine
On Mar 2, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Tim Colson wrote: Hey gang - I was looking for the date for that Tech Oasis mtg tonight... and ran across this calendar: http://atic.researchedge.com/cal/2004/0304.html For monthly e-mail or fax distribution of the ATIC Calendar or if you have comments or notice of

Re: [jug-discussion] Webapp frameworks

2004-03-05 Thread Warner Onstine
Check out the Wafer project: http://www.waferproject.org/index.html They have a baseline application (a blog) that is written in just about every conceivable framework out there. Most by the primary framework author themselves. -warner On Mar 5, 2004, at 8:15 AM, Robert Zeigler wrote: Not to

[jug-discussion] New Site!

2004-03-05 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I would just like to point out that we have a new Site design! Courtesy of none other than Tim Colson. Visit the revamped CSS-only layout at: http://www.tucson-jug.org Thanks Timo! Much appreciated. -warner - To

Re: [jug-discussion] OptimalJ

2004-03-08 Thread Warner Onstine
What I would love to see is a good mix of Open Source and commercial software. While we don't *currently* have a large membership of people in the mid to large IT group I hope that this will change in the future. I'm beginning to wonder if this might not be why we don't see some people come

[jug-discussion] Thank you Rob and Drew!

2004-03-10 Thread Warner Onstine
I just wanted to thank you both for your presentations last night! And what a great turnout too. Again, as I said last night we are actively looking for volunteers for promoting and helping to manage the JUG. If you can donate as little as 1 hour a week it would help out greatly. If you are

[jug-discussion] almost forgot

2004-03-10 Thread Warner Onstine
Thanks to everyone who donated to keep the domain name current. I believe we got $60 which will pay for the next 4 years! Thanks a bunch, really appreciate it. -warner - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

[jug-discussion] flash remoting

2004-03-12 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I don't know if any of you have investigated Flex or Flash Remoting (FR is the predecessor to Flex), but I thought I'd throw out some links for ya'll http://www.anotherbigidea.com/javaswf/ - Creating and manipulating SWF files through Java http://www.laszlosystems.com/ - interesting

Re: [jug-discussion] OGNL and JSRs

2004-03-17 Thread Warner Onstine
Just to make sure of the context, was this the comment that Rob made during his presentation? If so, I believe what he was saying was that proposing a JSR is a long road and it takes a dedication (and time) to manage it, if you were going to do so. I don't believe that he was saying anything

[jug-discussion] i'm lazy ;-), copy/move uppercase files/folders to lower-case

2004-03-17 Thread Warner Onstine
Hi all, I have to write a task that takes a group of directories convert them to all lowercase (including filenames) and then zip them up. Originally I was going to do this in PHP (haven't had a real java project in a lng time), then I had some inspiration to use Ant! I'm looking through

Re: [jug-discussion] i'm lazy ;-), copy/move uppercase files/folders to lower-case

2004-03-18 Thread Warner Onstine
Thanks Bill, Unfortunately I need to stick with something more standard for this. Interesting demo though, where is a site for Unicon? -warner On Mar 17, 2004, at 6:46 PM, William H. Mitchell wrote: I'm sure that Tom Hicks and Andy Huntwork saw this coming, but since Tim invoked the creature,

Re: [jug-discussion] i'm lazy ;-), copy/move uppercase files/folders to lower-case

2004-03-18 Thread Warner Onstine
with Ant and have Rhino or some other BSF language available, using script to do it. The zip task won't really help you here - it certainly doesn't have a rename to lowercase switch :) Erik On Mar 18, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Warner Onstine wrote: Thanks Vince, I have started to investigate this. What

Re: [jug-discussion] Open API's are Good Things(tm)

2004-03-18 Thread Warner Onstine
On Mar 18, 2004, at 5:20 PM, Tim Colson wrote: I've been smittin with Confluence and JIRA from those Atlassian folks, but now I think they and a handful of others ( Eclipse, Intellij) are changing how we think about software. If there is an Open API, then the product can be extended in ways the

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