No, don't "stich" v ia's.
Add grounding ( RF ) via's as the final touch. Make a backup of your PCB BEFORE
adding grounding via's. ( It's a paion removing 200 via's... )
Just switch off DRC and add away.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 12:57:06
DS instead.
Agilent ADS costs many 10K's of $.
Another way is to generate netlist's for "SPLICE". Splice is a mixed mode
simulator and as such, handles both digital and analog simulation slightly
better than Spice.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 18:47:46 you wrote:
On Thursday 20 May 2010 15:35:19 you wrote:
> Thanks Dan
> The "Offset adjust for drill and place" option changes dimensions to
> relative to that point. I knew I was missing something simple
>
> George
George,
I'm playing with a CNC from www.
number of cheap Gerber >> Gcode
converters you can download and test before purchase.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Thursday 20 May 2010 01:33:18 you wrote:
> I want to mill my own boards an I never found a program to do the
> conversion to G-code so I am writing my own. I am converting Gerber fi
red.
There are absolutely no excuse for NOT doing it for parts we share and upload.
Regards
Dan, M0DFI
Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your
question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creato
On Wednesday 05 May 2010 22:56:54 you wrote:
> Hello Dan.
>
> > I have had many cards made at pcb houses as well.
> > My problem started with a CNC milling machine and the conversion of Kicad
> > gerber files to gcode.
>
> This means, the drill file for the
Good question.
I have had many cards made at pcb houses as well.
My problem started with a CNC milling machine and the conversion of Kicad
gerber files to gcode.
I will have to take a look at the problem so I'm out listening for any other's
with similar problems.
//Dan
On Wednes
ith gerber data.
Unfortunately, this shows mostly with larger gerber files...
This sounds all a bit diffuse, I know. I just want to highlight the possibility
of bad gerber output.
//Dan, M0DFI
u run a really
exotic distro...
Regards
Dan, M0DFI
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 16:02:15 bernd.wiebus wrote:
> Hello Dan.
>
> > > I installed a program called "ps2pdf"
>
> I think "ps2pdf" is not a program, but a script for steering the program
> &
See to that you make PostScript plots.
I installed a program called"ps2pdf"
This creates very very nice PDF files in colour.
Best Regards
Dan Andersson/ M0DFI
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 13:29:48 mancapit wrote:
> Hi ,
> i'm sorry for my english , i have installed on
ks!
>
Nope, you're wrong Tom.
If you can see them, they are there.
If I install a new KiCad without the VNWA2 libs and modules correctly copied,
I see it in the schema or pcb drawing.
Catch me on skype for a cgat.
/Dan
Please read the Kicad F
ul of what yu
can do with your design!
//Dan, M0DFI
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009 03:08:25 lynchaj wrote:
> Hi! Thanks for making KiCAD. It is a great program and I use it often to
> make PCBs for the N8VEM homebrew computer project.
>
> I recently came across an interestin
hello,
Is it possible to scan an existing PCB from an old design and have Kicad
read this file (jpeg?) in order to create a gerber file output to make
new ones ?
I have some old designs from 30+yrs ago which I like to bring back to life.
thanks
=Dan
--
http://home.comcast.net/~ragooman
o have it delete old tracks and components. This will leave
everything that hasn't changed in place, and you'll have some new components
you need to place and route for.
Hope this helps.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "anders.gustafsson99"
wrote:
>
> The boar
nsively in certain
industries such as in the manufacture of printed circuit boards (PCBs) and for
tolerance specifications on hydraulic cylinders." Apparently, the PCB industry
hasn't adopted "thou", since every time I look at some Chinese PCB maker's
website, they use mil
nents without
so much slop on the metric ones. Why does Kicad even have this soft-metric
thing? If I want English, I'll select English. If I select mm, that means I'm
working with a part designed in metric, and I need metric.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, al davis wrot
, but #2 is easily
OpenOffice.org, and not some proprietary suite like Lotus.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "dandumit" wrote:
>
> Comparing with Eagle I consider Kicad far better.
>
> But what makes Eagle to be so spread on net ? One answer is that you can fi
Do a Google search on DG8SAQ or/and the VNWA2 Vector Analyzer.
The pcb is visible on some photo's.
The pcb and all the schematics where done with KiCad.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 20 April 2009 15:24:42 Lothar Behrens wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there any resource for success stories abo
It's "good practice" to copy it to /usr/local
Only Windooze users place it in the local path...
//Dan, M0DFI
On Friday 27 March 2009 11:35:42 stefaca666 wrote:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Danilo Uccelli wrote:
> > 2009/3/26 stefaca666
> >
> >
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 23:37:16 oecherexpat wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> > When designing the ring, see to that it is "connected" to an unused
> > component part. This way, the zone filler will avoid it.
>
> You mean like a pad? How can I connect it to a signal? It is n
at it is "connected" to an unused component
part. This way, the zone filler will avoid it.
//Dan, M0DFI
> Anyone with an idea how to solve this?
>
> Thanks, Heiko
>
> AndyE
Now,
Install "getlibs"
Then do a "getlibs /usr/local/kicad/bin/kicad" or wherever your binary is.
Do it as root.
//Dan
On Saturday 14 February 2009 13:55:25 Dan Andersson wrote:
> On Saturday 14 February 2009 13:26:55 tom_iphi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to delete some objects from a Gerber file (which I can do with
> > Gerbview). But in Gerbview I cannot find a possibil
On Saturday 14 February 2009 13:26:55 tom_iphi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to delete some objects from a Gerber file (which I can do with
> Gerbview). But in Gerbview I cannot find a possibility to save the
> changes.
>
> Please give me a hint.
>
> Tom
Files - Export to PCBnew
//Dan
ind Orcad and
other commercial packages looking at KiCad symbols... :)
//Dan, M0DFI
On Friday 13 February 2009 22:03:27 vincetatator wrote:
> Hello Kicad users,
>
> I'm trying to use Kicad for the first time.
>
> I don't find a kicad library for a component (lm3s6918 fr
Firs the compulsory question... Linux or Windcows?
//Dan
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 18:19:55 Stephrac74 wrote:
> Thanks for answering Dan
>
>
>
> It sounds great but I’ve no idea how to do thatL
>
>
>
> Could you tell me more about that ?
>
>
>
>
> new path
thats boring
>
>
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Stephane
Use a symbolic link. Define a symbolic link and place it $HOME.
//Dan, M0DFI
ase share the new symbols so others can use them as well. This is the
reason you have any symbols to start with so please continue sharing.
//Dan, M0DFI
>
> Help me please
>
>
> Thanks
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 01:42:36 Wm.Andrew Ehlers wrote:
> Dan Andersson wrote:
> > On Monday 09 February 2009 21:20:02 william ehlers wrote:
> > > I have tried to update Kicad from the supplied 07/09/2007 version with
> > > absolutely no luck. I have a toshiba la
/usr/local/kicad/bin/kicad
Look for error messages and try to trace them.
Fedora doesn't feellike the - hrmm, majority installation Ubuntu is biut
should still work.
Fedora used to bite me in the past as they screwed up the libraries at
updates. I couldn't have that so out went Fedora.
//Dan, M0DFI
English as native (I'm
Swedish ) so the French is in no way treated unfairly.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Sunday 08 February 2009 11:01:16 Pedro Martin wrote:
> And, Dan, nowadays there are some manufacturers that mount smd in both
> sides...
Yes,
But they still hate you ( == Charge extra ) for it. Besides, if you do pick'n
place with a machine, you need two setups and one "b
pper layer i that you are looking on
the pcb from above, you are looking trough your component layer as your
viewpoint is above the top of the pcb board.
The defacto standard of mounting SMD's is on the top - component side.
YOU DO NOT PLACE SMD ON BOTH SIDES! Unless you solder it by hand.
Windows or Linux?
//Dan
On Friday 06 February 2009 09:04:13 AD5VJ Bob wrote:
> I am online in the library files and looking at the downloads. Especially
> the one from dandumit I do not recognize the file type of .7z how do I use
> this after I download it.
>
> Bob AD5VJ
>
Oh...
Either email me a copyf the datasheet or - email me a URL link to the webpage
where I can find the audio socket.
//Dan
On Friday 06 February 2009 08:43:54 AD5VJ Bob wrote:
> Sorry but not sure how to send that to you. What is a copy pointer?
>
> Bob AD5VJ
>
> > ---
common in their sizes that it is not necessary to
> specify the holes by using a footprint from the libraries, or do you just
> put pads on the board where you want it installed?
>
> Bob AD5VJ
Bob,
I just made an audio socket w foot print.
Send me a copy/pointer to the datasheet, it might be the same.
//Dan, M0DFI
e in and paid off a bunch of European
countries to approve their broken OOXML "standard". Standards
committees and their recommendations should be taken with a large
grain of salt.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "nonuckingfumber" wrote:
>
> I don't think
On Thursday 29 January 2009 14:47:56 nonuckingfumber wrote:
> Interestingly, in the light of what Dan said, this is actually a free
> open source project developed and released by the DoD :-)
Yes, I have been running BRL Cad since 1997. I use it for radar lumination of
moving and stat
On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:46:19 nonuckingfumber wrote:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Andersson wrote:
> > The only DuDe's I know of still insisting on IGES is the US DoD
>
> Doh!
>
> > STEP is not good enough either. This is still a desk design
he last update was 1995 or so.
The only DuDe's I know of still insisting on IGES is the US DoD Doh!
STEP is not good enough either. This is still a desk design by a steering
group of board members, a fit all solution.
IGES - R.I.P
And send a torpedo the STEP's way too!
//Dan, M0DFI
Not "using" yet - just ordered a micRO from http://lumenlab.com
Wait a couple of weeks and ask me again how well it works...
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 26 January 2009 18:21:07 mostafakassem wrote:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Andersson wrote:
> > Try www.oli
are inches or more, just guessing. For tiny boards, they're
ridiculous.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "benjaminrohland"
wrote:
>
> Can you tell me which contractor is the best for producing my conductor
> board prototype? I found some in the internet, but the prices are
> similar. Are there any pros and cons I have to pay attention to?
>
turnaround time.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 26 January 2009 12:47:50 benjaminrohland wrote:
> Can you tell me which contractor is the best for producing my conductor
> board prototype? I found some in the internet, but the prices are
> similar. Are there any pros and cons I have to pay att
Hmm,
Skall kolla lite senare idag Anders.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 12:41:05 anders.gustafsson99 wrote:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Andersson wrote:
> > Try "Global Pad Settings"
>
> One thing though.. I sem to be able to change the size, b
Try "Global Pad Settings"
//Dan, M0DFI
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 08:20:24 anders.gustafsson99 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I find that pad sizes are a tad small, especially if you plan to etch
> PCBs yourself and matching between sides can be an issue. Is there
> any way to chan
o I assume KiCad's Gerber
output is kosher.
My immediate problem with KiCad's Gerber output is to convert it to G-code to
run in EMC2 CNC milling software.
I tested two converters now and both refuses the KiCad code.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 19 January 2009 09:24:48 Dave - WB6DHW wrote
No,
GCAM still can't read KiCad Gerber files, even after the manual hack to please
Gerbv.
This means that I cannot use KiCad for my new CNC Milling machine yet. I'd
really really hate to be forced back to Eagle!
//Dan, M0DFI
ine sinced I
tested last time, 9 month's ago or so.
Now I'm going to check if GCAM can read the same Gerber file, it couldn't
earlier...
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 19 January 2009 08:35:20 electric_phil wrote:
> I just finish routing my pcb, and plot it in Gerber file format
Bugger!
You are right!
I updated my Gerbv and KiCad - they do disagree.
Gerbv comes out with an error -1
Gonna spend some time on this!
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 19 January 2009 09:06:03 Dan Andersson wrote:
> ??? !
>
> I can read my .pho files in Gerbv without any problems. I'
??? !
I can read my .pho files in Gerbv without any problems. I've also tested
reading the files with other Gerber viewers without any problems.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Monday 19 January 2009 08:35:20 electric_phil wrote:
> I just finish routing my pcb, and plot it in Gerber file format
>
s from the amplifier.
//Dan
On Friday 16 January 2009 10:48:41 electric_phil wrote:
> Thanks to your prompt reply, Dan ...
>
> I'm working too on electron tubes, for a guitar amp ... :-), and
> really need to seperate "the two worlds" ...
>
> So, I'll try your method
ected.
This way, you have the netlist support for the PCB but you are on your own for
the rest. You really don't want to mix the two "worlds" except when doing DRC.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Friday 16 January 2009 10:13:25 electric_phil wrote:
> I have done a complete schematic with Eesc
t for a greenie!
Do take the time and learn/use the schematic capture and netlists. It pays off!
//Dan, M0DFI
On Thursday 08 January 2009 16:32:08 Pedro Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It could be the DRC: if the trace doesn't keep the minimum margin, pcbnew
> doesn't allow to trac
"borrow" Eagle Library symbols. Even for complex parts like the TI
cpu's.
I really really recommend you to learn to use the Kicad lib/mod editor, it's
one of the best I've seen for pcb work and I've been doing this since 1978...
More importantly, if an old ge
David,
I always place the zone(s) as one of the last objects. Old habit I assume.
If the tracks are connected to the same net as you have GND or whatever you
decided to choose for your zone, they may be included ( correctly ) in the
zone.
//Dan
On Sunday 07 December 2008 11:55:23
or the pcbnew program
Good luck
//Dan, M0DFI
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 20:34:46 davidmilne84 wrote:
> Hi there
>
> I am pritty new to Kicad and I have developed a couple of circuits.
> However, not all the components I require are in the default library.
>
> I have fo
ide circle replacement.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Saturday 01 November 2008 00:37:16 c_harf wrote:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Dan Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gent's,
> >
> > The plot comes out correct when using the Gerber file. Remember that
>
> t
pukka Gerber files for production purposes
as well as drill file.
If KiCad generates weird output, my guess ( sorry! ) is that someone told it
to...
No printouts, HP or PS are a substitute for the Gerber file and drill/routing
file.
//Dan, M0DFI
On Friday 31 October 2008 16:11:40 Alain M.
ing a lot today
menu on the top, just under "Dimensions"
Icon number 4 from left, an orange-ish one in the PCB program.
//dan
On Sunday 26 October 2008 21:51:14 tom_iphi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> can I somehow use the same SMD module for component side assembly and
> copper side assembly or do I need separate modules?
>
> Regards, Tom
Wrks OK, just flip the component.
Dan
JPG is a poor choice for graphics like this, as these aren't
photographs. PNG is a much better choice for line graphics. Kicad
should have a way to export to PNG, which can then be imported into a
document or webpage.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Stephrac74" &l
Hi all,
Just a quick query, does anyone out there have a LQFP-48 package they
would be willing to share?
I am working on an AD/DA board and the chips only come in this form
factor (Could be worse, could be a BGA).
Regards, Dan.
he corners of the
smallest structure had always the radius of the smallest apertures.
Keep in mind that most PCB cad softwares must carry this heritage but KiCad is
one of the better I've seen lately.
//Dan
tput is rather rubbish...
The other alternative is HP Plotter format - Yikes... So the PS output is not
a bad choice for anything but pcb production purpose.
I do prefer the Gerber file but I use the Geda Gerber viewer instead a it's
more integrated in the Linux environment than KiCad's Gerber viewer.
//Dan
sam_des
The postscript output is NOT for PCB making!!!
If you need Postscript for PCB making, use a Gerber Viewer and make a
Postscript output from it.
You can't "trust" anything but the Gerber file.
//Dan, M0DFI
oid clicking on the network highlight icon to the right - and select an
empty area and click.
Now create your zone.
The zone wont connect anywhere unless you have a network highlighted...
//Dan
the footprint size.
Normally, you have a very limited space available for the text and that means
that most designers prefer the database number instead of the value.
However. You can edit the layer manually BUT!
I do recommend changing the source of the information rather than changing the
nd Module editors I've seen.
You can find the information you need in the KiCad tutorial.
A simple footprint takes only a few minutes to create.
//Dan, M0DFI
y.
However,
You can find several open source ide's like OpenLDev.
Use Google and pick the one that suits you best.
Also, look for free RUP and RAD environments as this is good for your CV...
//Dan
On Sunday 24 February 2008 20:25:10 moomoo67 wrote:
> Cheers Dan. Plotting .ps files did the job. I don't why i was using
> gerber (i must have read the wrong thing in a how-to). Just confused
> because printing the .pho files were perfect except for those gaps
> in the corner
essional PCB manufacturer. Very few of my friends have a
Gerber plotter in their attic or cellar - unfortunately...
I think there is Gerber >> CNC as well as HPGL >> CNC converters for you
who have a pcb cnc at home.
//Dan, M0DFI
at deals with PostScript like
GhostScript etc.
You must check that whatever you use doesn't create a wrong output scale
Best solution is probably to use Linux tho' . If you don't - it's about time!
//Dan, M0DFI
ferent norms in gerber files ?
>
> thanks pedro
Different photoplotters have a different set of apertures if they are of the
older type of Gerber plotters with fixed optical slots. The newer ones are
laser based and the aperture can normally be changed ( at a cost ). You MUST
check with your supplier which apertures he accepts.
//Dan
another manufacturer!
Besides! Make a CD with the Windows and Linux version of the softyware and
bring it to your manufacturer. Show him how to make Gerber files by
selecting "plot" from the file menu of the PCB tool.
//Dan
ou CANNOT send the KiCad datafiles to your PCB manufacturer if he only
supports Gerber. You have to PLOT the KiCad files first. These Gerber files
will have the extension .pho
//Dan, M0DFI
e copies of your two Gerber fileS with your favourite
editor.
Sort the files.
Compare.
The files can't be used for plotting anumore but now you can compare drill
holes,
Open aperture and where
Close aperture and where
Etc etc
//Dan
g to get the wire started.
I noticed this with the last version of KiCad. I' using an AMD 64 dual core
4000+ and "enough" dual port RAM.
As a workaround, change zoom leve ( increase ) and try a couple of times and
it'll work.
//Dan
I was wondering if there is a separate Lib viewer/browser available.
Something where I can view the parts inside each of the libraries before
I add them in eeschema
thanks,
=Dan
is macroscopicus error?
>
> Thank you,
> Leonardo.
>
>
> ___
> L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail:
> http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
The text is probably not marked and treated as copper nor component layer.
//Dan
SORRYY!
Discard!
Please
//Dan
the
US. Here in the UK, I get the delivery within one working day after order!
//Dan, M0DFI
.
2.5mm?
Well, here is a 3.5mm - very simple audio jack. 2.5mm jacks are mostly used
for mobile phones etc.
//Dan, M0DFI
PCBNEW-LibModule-V1 29/12/2007-11:21:24
$INDEX
EBS35
$EndINDEX
$MODULE EBS35
Po 0 0 0 15 47762D62 47762DA3 ~~
Li EBS35
Sc 47762DA3
Op 0 0 0
T0 118 118 600 600 0 120 N V 21 &
acks and Vias menu item, and it can be made large
> enough to give a good pad size for soldering the jumper wires.
>
> There are some limitations to this, since jumpers made with insulated
> wire can cross whereas real track can not.
Why so much fuzz about this?
Just make the single
as default, you need to tick
the correct box for that in the net list read window.
//Dan
PCB. Personally, I'd like to see Kicad include more of
these in the default distribution rather than having to get them
separately.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "rtnmi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me how Kicad compares to commercial so
ux and if you add QUCS to your design suite, you can go very very far
before running out of tools.
It would of course be nice with backward annotation and a good simulator
interface but I still prefer the main development efforts to focus on the
standard cad features...
//Dan, M0DFI
>
>
't work for me if I do exactly that. Which directory do you set in
> the 'Library Files path' field?
>
> David
OI!
The default library path point to a system directory!
You have to change the path to a writeable directory before saving!
//Dan, M0DFI
good and I have to check it out as an alternative to
the Chinese made boards.
I normally use 0.8mm FR4 so that will be a bit more costly than $33...
But 33 Dollars, that's only £16 and that's only 6 pints of proper English
beer...
But again, I might give it a try... Also, Olimex cla
Dan,
You're a little confused. Assuming you're a US resident, a weak
Dollar is a bad thing if you're trying to buy stuff from other
countries. Things from China were cheap because the Dollar used to be
strong, and was worth more than other currencies. Now the Dollar is
weake
c.
>
> Happy routing!
Yes, and with good results.
However - It is by far(!) cheaper to buy PCB's from China, especially if you
accept to wait a bit longer. You get larger areas for less money. ( more
boards )
They charge in US Dollars and as the Dollar is so weak, it's a bargain!
//Dan
.
If you want to develop KiCad further, use GCC! If you "have" to add .NET
functions, see to that they are compatible with MONO so we can compile them
in fully open source environments.
//Dan
On Saturday 13 October 2007 19:55:37 drwrench wrote:
> Hi Dick, Thanks for the reply.
These are many of the same complaints I've had. I filed a wishlist
request for this.
The big problem is that, just like gEDA, kicad's components aren't
integrated enough. cvpcb shouldn't exist at all, and eeschema parts
should be associated with pcbnew footprints. Importing an eeschema
design i
ship it over the Atlantic is far cheaper when you're
dealing with simple 1- or 2-layer PCBs. American boardmakers only
make sense if you're making a multilayer board.
For us hobbyists, Olimex is a godsend as far as I'm concerned.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Ha
EAGLE, gEDA,
etc., and have decided Kicad is the best. No one would be here if
they didn't actually like Kicad. We just want it to be even better.
Dan
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Danilo Uccelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2007/8/24, frank.knoll <[EMA
ding this, how much
cross-pollination/code-sharing is there between gEDA and Kicad? It'd
be nice if everyone could work together on a single open-source suite,
or at least make it easy to pick-and-choose components from each by
making it easy to import and export between the two.
Dan
--- In kica
don't see it in the
Project descriptor.
I'm having no luck in finding this info in the Kicad FAQ or HowTo
my version is EESchema 2006-06-08
thanks,
=Dan
--
[ http://ragooman.home.comcast.net/]
I was wondering if there is a way to view just one layer at a time on
the screen ?
I couldn't see where in the menu this might be. I recall seeing this
feature in other tools. I was able to turn off layers to view any one
separately.
=Dan
--
[ beauty is in the eye of the beer h
reate each one and edit the pad settings
for each.
=Dan
--
[ My Corner of Cyberspace http://ragooman.home.comcast.net/ ]
William,
The KiCad tutorial describes how top add komponents of your own choice.
Try reading up on the tutorial but... if you still can't figure it out, make a
post to the group again and we'll walk it through...
//Dan
On Saturday 05 May 2007 21:40:59 William wrote:
> H
I was hoping someone might have a S-100 board layout available for Kicad.
This is an old style circuit card used in many of the old computers from
the 70's.
Such as Altair, Imsai, Cromemco, etc
If there's some other format available I hope it can be converted to
Kicad still
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