This weekend was a lot of fun. Being that my KR is still down for interior
overhaul and annual inspection I flew out to the annual Thomasville fly-in in a
KR2S that belongs to Todd Theilin. It is a nice KR with a sporty Mosler
conversion in it. 150mph in cruise with the gear up. Little
Dan, we are all praying for you and your recovery. Sorry to hear about your
bird but your health and life are so much more valuable to us. Keep your
spirit up and get well.
N41768 and I wont be making it to KMVN this year due to bad weather on this end
and requirement that I be here on
Howdy folks, I left out of Valdosta, Ga on Friday at noon and flew up to Mount
Vernon to spend the night. Got to go out to dinner with Chris (airport manager
for Mt Vernon) and spent the night there at the FBO on their new leather
couches. Very comfortable. Left out early in the morning
I am currently finishing up a welded aluminum header tank that will fit KRs
that can simply be bolted in (12gallons) and will be available for sale in
order to get rid of the composite header tanks. Questions about alcohol and
proper building procedures make this the way to go. This coming
Steve , no throwing under the bus has ever been done here. As someone who has
helped in many investigations in the past we can only go by what is known. We
know that there were no apparent electrical problems in the prior two flights
but after Cary had been working under the panel is when
I was really surprised to find out from Cary's friend Tim (a pilot) that he
smoked all the time while flying. Cary had driven up to VA to pick up a plane
that Tim had purchased and ferried it down with Tim about two weeks before the
accident. On that flight (an airplane Cary had never flown
Sun n Fun was just as fun and eventful as always though with the added
complexity of being an exhibitor this year. I did do the smart thing and fly
down to Lakland a couple days early to avoid the Notam and traffic. It was a
nice smooth and uneventful 1.5 hour trip listening to my MP3 and
To all, It is with great saddness that I can say that the fellow that crashed
his KR outside of Valdosta was a longtime friend of mine Cary Howard. I waited
for family permission before releasing his name. Cary was a great man, quiet
yet energetic. He did a lot of work for me through the
For the first couple years of flying my KR I have been using a mild steel
exhaust bolted to the original cast logs on the corvair. I had them ceramic
coated and they have worked very well as far as keeping temps down in the
cowling and had not cracked. Last year I tooled up and designed
Folks- I would like to congratulate Cary Howard on the first flight of his
KR2/Corvair. N456CH took off on Sunday afternoon (beautiful weather) for a
short flight around the pattern here in Valdosta Ga. The airplane flew
straight and true with no bad tendancies or major issues. Engine
I know this is a bit different from a corvair guy, but is anybody interested in
a O-200 engine core? I have the case, crank, gears and rear housing and some
other parts. No Mags, or cylinders (they were toast).
I also have a complete running O-200 available that belonged to a friend of
Hey ya'll, I would like you to check out my web site, billclapp.com and a
couple new and more complete items. I finally finished more of my biography
and also added a new page - "Current Adventures". Check out my last trip. I
will soon be doing a similar trip out to Colorado, so if
Well, here I sit at my new computer to send out a hote to all those who are
following the first of what I hope are many more successful trips to visit and
help fellow builders and pilots. As you may know I left out of Valdosta GA in
my Corvair powered KR2S for LaGrange GA (180 m) on (last)
I believe I first heard William Wynne call the corvair community and emphasis
on learning as a "movemt". It is hard to describe but once you and in int you
understand it. It realy is that levely mixture of friendships, hard work,
reasearch and development, and enjoying the learning process
I believe I first heard William Wynne call the corvair community and emphasis
on learning as a "movemt". It is hard to describe but once you and in int you
understand it. It realy is that levely mixture of friendships, hard work,
reasearch and development, and enjoying the learning process
Well here I am in Casey IL. Ive been spending the last couple days working on
Cleone Markwell's 601HD with Corvair. After performing an annual inspection
and some repairs to electrical and other systems we fired it up and flew it
this morning. Nice Flying plane. We still have a couple
Here are some tenative plans. If thigs work out I hope to be flying north to
Fargo for the Mini Corvair college the begins on the 25th of May. I should
leave out of here on the 21st and visit some Peitenpol guys in Atlanta, then
the 26 to Tennessee area, then Casey IL to work on Cleone
- Do you have a hand miter saw? That would make less noise and let you procede
on a lot of stuff. My dad mad his KR and cut most of the wood by handsaw and
adjustable miter blocks. Just an IDEA! Bill
Darren Crompton wrote: OK. It's Friday night and I am
counting
Here's the schedule so far and Lord willing.I am leaving out of Valdosta Ga
on Tuesday morning, flying to LaGrange to visit with Gardner Mason , Peitenpol
builder, and then onto Cleone Markwell's (Zenith 601 HDS) that evening. Im
hoping to do an inspection and RTS flight on his plane so
Okay - time to mix it up! I just have a couple questions. WAFs are currently
made out of 4130. Can I have them hydro cut from stainless and what would be
the difference in material strength? I am planning for a WAF that is a single
piece on either side of the spar instead of two. I may
No - but Ive heard that they do float!
bobby burington wrote: HI,
I looked through about 500 entries and couldn't find any info on floats. Has
anyone put floats on their KR, or does anyone have any information on floats
for the KR-2 ?.
Thanks
Robert
Mark - please run the engine a little richer than you do - fuel is a lot of
your cooling. Hope the tornado makes a big difference. Bill
Mark Jones wrote: I forgot to mention in my flight report
that this was also the first time I flew with the Tornado installed behind the
Yes - Im finally back home - although only an hour and a half away from
Lakeland it is nice to anticipate sleeping in a real bed. I arrived at Sun n
Fun on Monday the 16th trailing Rick Lindstroms pretty 601XL. We both
arrived unscathed and tied down. I spent the week camped out next to
Just a reminder - my Kr finished was 7300.00 - and that was in 2004! It is
still possible. Im trying tp build my twin in under 8000.00 I think I can do
it again! Bill
flymaca711...@aol.com wrote: Hi all i have the magazine just have to find it .
that magzine started my
love of the kr
Hey there Mark - Yeah Ive been laid back watching all the hubub as well. I
think that is why I shut down my TV and internet when I started building my
airplane and just took good hands on advise from people I knew that build
flying stuff. I remember the day I turned on the internet and
Just a little update...I just got back from WW in Florida and had a most
excellent time. I got to personally see a few new goodies that are on his new
web update...The Gold prop hub is so cool looking and light! Im putting in a
order for a couple very soon. Another Way cool item is that new
Back into the air again with a couple changes on the plane. I was down at WW
helping him do some flying and checkout on the 601 when we decided to install
the Crane electronic points (without points) into the WW distributor. After a
little playing around we had it up and running. Flew
Hi guys - Well I guess Ill put in my two cents worth. Im not sure if the
whole"Jeff" thing was a prank or not but I thought it a little upsetting when I
saw that somebody wanted to market direct copies of WW stuff. Its nice enought
that he gives us drawings for his parts and manual and
Yes I am building the twin but right now stuck until I get the wood picked up
to build the center spars with. Once I get the center spars built then I will
assemble the fuselage. I think I can build most of the boat in a week. Nomex
is easy to work with. I dont have much documentation but I
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If you are going CORVAIR - I picked up mine froma junkyard for about 150.00 a
few weeks later and a couple thouseand bucks and I had a running engine. Of
course the Corvair has changed somewhat since I built mine and upgraded it so I
think that if you built it yourself you could finish it for
The KRrolls fairly well but mine is a little on the slow side. The stresses
on the airframe are negligable. The biggest problem I have is roll rate and
that can be fixed by increasing my aileron travel. Ive got mine set on the low
end but am sure if I added 3 or 4 degrees to the travel that
Hello KR world. Yes I do plan to attend Sun n Fun again this year Lord
willing. I hope to have my grandfathers 1960 Airstream down in camping again
and bring my daughter down and spend the whole week. It is a really good time
for the both of us. We try to promote KRs and the Corvair
Hello KR and Corvair world. Yes I do plan to attend Sun n Fun again this year
Lord willing. I hope to have my grandfathers 1960 Airstream down in camping
again and bring my daughter down and spend the whole week. It is a really
good time for the both of us. We try to promote KRs and the
That is awesome - I need one in my yard!
Oscar Zuniga wrote: The only KR content here is that
some KRs fly with VW engines. Now for the
rest of the story: try to find the engine on this VW:
http://blog.coker.com/index.php/2007/01/30/billy-f-gibbons%E2%80%99-bus-ball
Congratulations to a new KR member! As one who's been there - there is
nothing quite like it!...YEEEHHAAAWWW! Continue with care and many happy
hours awaitBill
AVLEC wrote: Well, except for Mark J, I havn't seen a
single word of congratulations to
Jaco Swanepoel
Just got back from a little flying and some testing in the Kr - hadnt flown in
a few days so I thought I would go out and have some fun. Brought in a couple
numbers for you number crunchers out there.
at 21" MAP - 4600'altitude, 55 degrees outside, 5.2 gal/hr, 150 mph (gps two
ways) 124
Finally back in the air after installing a new handheld. I though t the
transmitter on the Delcom radio died but what I found out is that my headset
adapter doesnt work proprerly. I couldnt use it with the aircraft PTt or
intercom so I went ahead and purchased a Vertex 300. Nice radio with
Just got back from a flight to a neighboring airport where 100LL is cheaper and
giving the folks a couple low passes. Am trying out my new Vertex handheld.
It works real well with my intercom and I can transmit about 60 miles out. The
only problem I have, and I had it with another handheld,
Has anybody here worked on wiring a Dlecom handheld into an intercom to use in
a Kr? Having trouble making the mic side work. I can get the transmitt to
come on with the PTT but tower says that transmit is "scratchy and weak" but
unplugged and using radio mic is strong. ANy hints? - Bill
Has anybody here worked on wiring a Dlecom handheld into an intercom to use in
a Kr? Having trouble making the mic side work. I can get the transmitt to
come on with the PTT but tower says that transmit is "scratchy and weak" but
unplugged and using radio mic is strong. ANy hints? - Bill
Still have a Corvair 110 engine available - partially built for aircraft -
nitrided crank and all...call me 229-506-7741 .Bill
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Okay - lets not confuse people too much - My actual email is ifly...@yahoo.com
- Sorry Dan - that is a real old oneHope all is well with you...thanks
Bill Clapp
Dan Heath wrote: OK, maybe it is because you don't know
Bill's address. This workshop is a
great idea and a
I still fly a Wright Flyer.I think the human part of us that drives us to
strive forward in improvements and modifications, both in speed and safety, are
things that are important in aviation otherwise we would all be in Wright
flyers today. Yes - the Kr I fly now is a dramatic improvement
In order to see if there is any interest in the KR WORKSHOP idea I am going to
make a proposal. Call me if your interested in attending. I have a KR2 that
is going to have the orginal retracts removed, Dan Deihl gear installed and
stub wings glassed and preped. These have wing skins so I
Not a bad idea - Ill look into it.
Rick and Pam wrote: could it be possible to document these
workshops with a video? I would love
to come to the gear workshop but I still have to earn a living. you could
probably make quite a bit of money just by setting up a camera and
If you have the KR2 (not S) it will work fine - just have to split the bottom
cowl half and pull it together. I have done a couple and they turned out
well. Check Glenda McElwees web site awesometrvl.com - It fits perfect on the
2S (see my photos).. Make sure your getting the KR cowl - not
Ben - give me a call on my home line - 229-506-7741 - If you want a week long
training session built to suit - let me know. If you spent a week doing
woodwork - building a spar - glassing a wing, getting questions answered - and
getting home with a lot more experience and MOJO to build - what
Hi Jon - thanks for the interest. What would you like to lear for sure? If
intersted Ill be starting to book up the calender for Workshops. You can
drive down and bring your stuff or just learn how to do it. Call me
229-506-7741 - Thanks -Bill
Jon Sanders wrote:
My preference on my Corvair KR2S is to run the header because of my gravity
feed carb - Gravity is pretty dependable - I think it is more reliable than a
fuel pump (no reported incidents of loss of gravity other than with some
assossiated UFO sightings) I have a 13 gallon header and 10 gallons
For some that might be interested I will also be putting my A services and KR
experience out on the market as part of the KR Workshop - gone mobile! If you
so desire, I will fly (in my KR) to your location to help build, inspect, do
modifications, annuals, check project to buy or sell, give a
Here is my idea on the wing build.
Build the outer wing panel first. Using a jig I have build both outboard
wing sections completely. The builder would go home to his boat with both
wings completed. The fuselage is then leveled and the wing attach fittings are
drilled onto the center
nd I'm there. I will be
ready to start my wings in a few months and I would love to have the chance
to have the help of another builder with your experience.
Thanks
John Godwin
> [Original Message]
> From: william Clapp
> To:
> Date: 1/1/2007 3:51:00 PM
> Subject: KR> KR B
Just so you all know, If I do go ahead with this idea of a workshop there will
be a website up and running so that you will be informed. For now I am just
getting ideas together.
One new idea - have a time for checking prepurchased KRs and have them
inspected and improved for flight.
Yes - I believe that coul;d be a possibility as well - I do build them for cars
and have owned a 2100D turbo Revemaster.SO that is also possible. Bill
Lee Van Dyke wrote: Bill,
Will you be offering a VW Engine building forum also.
Lee Van Dyke
>
> 3) Engine build
I can do any of the A type inspections such as condition or annual and sign
off spars and such. As far as a DAR inspection and paperwork for your
Airworthiness card - that is something I am debating about gettingtakes
time and expense to get but might be an option later on this
Welcome to the group ! Yes we will be building different wing configurations.
The first will probably be Dan Diehl wing skins this coming month. I will
have more information for you shortly. Thanks - Bill
benji mosley wrote: Subject: KR> KR Builders Workshop
Program
Count me in Mark - maybe for two!
Bill
Mark Jones wrote:
As most of you know, the KR celebrates it's 35th birthday this year. I have
designated myself, with the blessing of some others, to organize a flight of a
minimum of 35 KR's to attend AirVenture 2007. Right
As some of you know I have built a couple KRs in the past - am flying N41768
right now and have helped or am helping with a couple other builds. After some
consideration and thought I have decided to put this idea out for your
consideration and thought. I have a 5000 sq' shop here at my
Merry Christmas to all in Kr land - hope the new year will see many new
projects hit the skies...keep building and flying.
For sale - I have at this point decided not to keep my spare corvair engine
and have it up for sale. Nitrided crank and many other good things to make you
new year a
I know where there is a fairly complete 0200 that came out of a Q200. Missing
carb and magnetoes I think. Some other parts with. I also have a O200
case/crank and gears for a build up. I think an offer on the complete O200 of
around 4000 may be fair. I have the logbooks for it here at the
You may not want to watch some of these first flight takoff clips - unless you
want to learn what NOT to do :) Takeoffs are easy - just the landings
require some practice. Fly it onto the runway at first and slow it
downBill
airb...@comcast.net wrote: does anybody know where I can
Still have a 1969 110 corvair engine for sale - not a core - but fairly
complete (Ot 10 cam - new bearings - forged pistons - balanced rods - rebuilt
110 heads- Nitrided crankshaft - and more - for aircraft use.. call me
(229)506-7741 Bill
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Do
I suggest the little Joh Dere the way WW has his. Mine is similar but made by
Kubota. Hi Pete - your CUZ here!.Bill
Pete Klapp wrote: Matt
I'm looking for an alternator for my Corvair and noticed your thread on the
alternators available on
e-bay. Where are you
Hey Mark - a couple things to checkcheck your point gap and also if there
is any play in the distibutor shaft. Ive seen worn shafts with low points gap
cause cutouts on VW's and Corvair. Sometimes just a bit of dust in the cap can
cause this as well - dirt in the points - I would check
This past week Glenda McElwee stopped by to work on her engine for her KR and I
returned her radio that I had been using the last two years. Thank you Glenda
for the loaner. It is appreciated. It was a Vertex handheld an I had it wired
into the intercom and external antenna. It worked great
I am back home from another interesting and tiring week at the Corvair college
in Edgewater Florida. I drove down on Tuesday in my 66 coupe (corvair of
course) and worked through Thurday night helping William Wynne assemble a
couple of engines for customers and preping parts and stuff for the
Howdy yall, Sorry I havent written in in a while but thought I might shoot an
update. Ive been busy working, helping people move, trying to fix the house,
all those little things, so I havent done much flying lately. Ive only put on
a few hours since the Gathering - only to 410 right now so I
Being that I was at the Gathering and saw that Marks airplane brought him to
the Gathering but was unable to fly him homemy guess is that he ate far to
many helpings of PRIME RIB!.
LOL :)
(actually it was a dropped valve seat)
Pete Diffey wrote:
Mark,
Okay guys - heres the deal. I dont know if you remember Larry Koutz - he was a
friend and hanger buddy of mine that was killed in April in a home accident.
SOme of you Corvair guys met him at Corvair College. Anyway, I helped his
widow in the sale of his airplane - a Q200 which ended up
Hey Joe - thunderstorms are normally easily dealt with - around- under or
between as long as it isnt a squall line - if it is - just land and let it pass
over - they move quickly. I hope to leave out in a couple hours - hope to see
youall there guys
Joe H Horton
Again - another great weekend with friends and family. Elaine and I had a
blast at the gathering. It took us 5 hours to fly up due to strong headwinds
and a fuel stop. Left today about 130 pm local time after trying to help Mark
Jones out - bad plug due to mixture settings - heard he had to
Just a question for those managing the Gathering this year. Are there any
functions or activities that children could enjoy? As you know, Elaine come
with me on many of my trips and plans to this year as well. She wanted to know
if there were any activities (zoo and such) that she could go
The type 4 engien came out in 1973 and was installed in the Type 2 Volkswagen
Bus. This early engine had solid lifters, mechanical fuel pump, carbs, and was
1700 cc. In 1975 it was upgraded to electic fuel pump, fuel injection, 1800cc
- still solid lifters. In 1976-1977 it bacame a 2.0 liter
If I am correct - someone took a wing to 11 Gs of force in destructive testing
and the spar broke in the middle of the fuselage - not at the WAFs. And 11 Gs
is much better than the 3.5 Gs max rating of a Cessna 172.Yet people never
ask if those wings will break. Build per plans and youll
Well - I finally finished up the annual inspection of N41768. I took her out
for a spin this morning for a RTS flight - first flight in almost a month..WOW!
It was nice to be back in the saddle again. Not too many problems here at the
400 hour mark. Did a little engine work - remounted my
Lee - Ill buy you a prime rib if it helps you fly here ( I'll put it on Mark
Jones' tab) ha ha..Bill
Lee Van Dyke wrote: NO PRIME RIB
I'M NOT COMMING
LEE
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I may just go for that when I get there - prime rib sounds great right
now..Bill
Lee Van Dyke wrote: I found a Restaurant 1 mile away that
will deliver a FULL and COMPLETE prime
rib dinner for $14.00. I'm down with that.
Lee
He did not buy you anything...he put it on
Well, it has been two weeks since I last flew 41768 and boy does it itch.. You
flyers know what I mean. Cant wait to be back int the air but dome critter
ate the gel ear covers off my headset - hope he has a tummy ache. Aircraft
Sruce sending me a new pair and then I can go fly. Annual is
Glenda and I were talking and she came up with an interesting idea. Why not a
gathering in California at Kens airport or area? Visit Janette? That way
Steve Glover doesnt get the longest distance award - A kind of Kr
homecoming. Be nice to send in photo to Sport Aviation of 25 KRs and
I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with
some different atmosphere.any takers?
Mark Langford wrote:
Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody can
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided
rr.com
-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location---West?
I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with
some
Wondered whether or not anybody had heard anything about the 2005 Gathering
movie or DVD? It has been a while - maybe we pick it up in Mount Vernon?
Keep building and finishing up - not much time left to next Gathering and I
want to see all of you there!Bill Clapp
Yes - unfortunately I was one of those taxiing for departure when we saw the
incident in question. Elaine and I were on the taxi way (ditch) between the
runway and the real taxiway when this accident occured. It is a good reminder
to do "S" turns to clear the way in front - and maybe have a
It has been a long couple weeks but Elaine and I finally made it home. We left
out on Tuesday the 18th and flew to Illinois, spent the night and flew up toNew
Richmond Wisconsin to my mom and dads on Wednesday. We spent a couple days
there with family and helping my dad put the wings on his
As of today - fuselage on gear - all brakes and controls installed - horizontal
and elevator and trim finished - rudder finished - seat finished - main and
rear spar finished - Panel finish but lacking COMM and TRANS. Canopy and
forward deck finished - front tank finished - cowling in progress
A question about laying up fiberglass on compound bend and deck work. I
have finished my front deck so far. I started with the standard two bulkheads
- foam betweeen - sand to shape - layer of carbon fiber over that to give me
the basic shape. I have added scince then 1/4" ( in a
My shop is in Valdosta Georgia - 10 miles north of Florida on I 75. Yes the
acrylic enamel can be a bit soft if not hardened properly. I most always
put a couple coats of urethane clear over the top - I have also mixed clear
and acrylic enamel and it works well as a top coat. This makes a
Brian - send me your email address if you can - I have a matching car for
you plane - send you a pic. Bill
- Original Message -
From: Brian Kraut
To: KR builders and pilots
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR>paint
> When I
Dan - "orange peel" comes from a couple problems. Most times if I get an
orange peel effect it is because I dont have the paint thinned out enough
and it does not get on the surface smoothly. If you have sanded the surface
"baby butt smooth" and then apply several coats of propperly thinned
After thinking about this oil cooler and filter situation on the Corvair motor
I think I have it figured out - Somewhat.. If I am wrong someone let me know.
I have a plate covering the accessory case - instead of keeping the original
pump/filter assy. I have oil leaving out of the pump
I remember a few years back of a bright yellow KR2 that a friend of my
father owned. It was named "Tweety Bird".Later I believe he sold it and
the built and RV4 that was also yellow and called "Tweety Bird II" I saw
the RV in Oshkosh many years ago but it was the first all colored KR I had
The problem with the Corvair is that there isnt a way to get a pressure
after the oil enters the galley for the bearings. The original setup is to
get pressure just after the pump. I would read pressure after the pump,
filter, and cooler so I get pressure just as it enters the main galleys.
The
Mark asked for any painters to chime in so here goes. I have been painting
planes and cars for many years now and have a little experience. Most
automotive paint systems are now acrylic urethane, urethane or a polyurethane
that are very good UV protectant paints. I recommend to stay away
Well, I feel good about building the KR right now. The last two weeks (after
some motivation from the Gathering) have been productive. I finished up my
header tank installation, Front deck is almost finished down to primering,
canopy is about ready primering, canopy is hinged and locks
To answer Dan's question about Butt molding - It is a tapered wood molding
the cross section looks like a smooth curved triangle. 3/4 incch or so on
the bottom and tapers to a point. Two of these are glued back to back to
create a rail on top of the longerons and the canopy is sandwiched
Anybody have a good used handheld or GPS for sale? Just looking to save a few
bucks. The handheld is just until I can afford my radios I may have to
buy my radio and transponder after flying off hours.Gathering
'04Maybe.
The tires for my KR are Lamb 4.00 X 5 - 8 Ply. I am going to be flipping the
plane over to build up stub wings and fairings. There was a man at the
Gathering that had a mold and wheel pants. Does anybody know if they will be
available and if they fit my tire? Or are there other pants out
Mark - You said that you have changed the original system you deleloped and now
have the oil leaving the top of the case (I believe it would be the passanger -
right side) and then returning to the bottom of the cooler output plate. Is
this correct and do you have any pics of this change? If
Congrats on your first flight! Do you have a picture of your grin?
Follow up with a good post inspection and then go have more fun. I cant
wait to join you. I will be in Jax tomorrow to visit Art Bruce around
noon - Hopefully he will be up and flying sometime as well. Regards - Bill
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