Re: [lace] crochet lace?

2007-06-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's Barmen machine lace. Very typical of this type of lace which is made on a circular machine ising coarse cotton thread. http://barmenlace.com/ Click on the Union flag and then video to see the machine in action Brenda On 13 Jun 2007, at 14:15, Joanne Callow wrote: Hello everyone, This

Re: [lace] Lurex Thread

2007-06-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Bart & Francis have a lot of unusual threads, but nothing they call Lurex - which is a Trade name registered to The Lurex Company Ltd. Brenda On 12 Jun 2007, at 23:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just returned from Tonder where I saw the work of the said lady and spoke to her re. the thr

Re: [lace] Shantung Lace?

2007-06-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Never heard of shantung lace, but Shantung is wild silk, also a region/province in eastern China, so it's either silk lace or lace made in that area. Or both! Do you have a photo of the lace/ Brenda On 12 Jun 2007, at 18:50, Shirlee Hill wrote: Has anyone heard of Shantung Lace? If so, what

Re: [lace] Re: Tear drop pattern - revised

2007-05-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mark I couldn't get in to the link you gave, but poked around a bit and discovered that it's actually http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinlace/BLteardrop.html though I could download the .pdf file from the .html page Brenda On 30 May 2007, at 17:24, Tatman wrote: As suggested to me by Bev, I

Re: [lace] 16e eeuw

2007-05-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
1st century = 1-100 2nd century = 101-200 . . 16th century = 1501-1600 17th century = 1601-1700 18th century = 1701-1800 19th century = 1801-1900 20th century = 1901-2000 21st century = 2001-2100 Many people celebrated the start of the 20th century a year too early! Going further back in time; t

[lace] New 20 pound note and pinmaking

2007-05-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Has anyone else looked at the back of the new UK 20 pound notes? There's a portrait of Adam Smith 1723-1790 and the words "The division of labour in pin manufacturing: (and the great increase in quantity of work that results)" plus a drawing of the various stages of pin manufacture in the 18th c

Re: [lace] dutch girl or boy in lace

2007-05-25 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Maybe Dora the Knotter can help. I have a pattern sheet purchased 15 or 20 years ago from a Lace day (Possibly Gravesend when she was the speaker). It's a Dutch girl wearing cap, apron and clogs and holding a tulip. She's 24cm (9.5") tall but could be reduced on a photocopier Marked D.N. N

Re: [lace] thread question

2007-05-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Judith In the book Modern Lace, the author calls for "Translucent Lurex thread". Can anyone tell me where in the US this can be obtained or what the equivalent would be? Thanks. Who's the author of this book? What sort of lace is it? Lurex is a brand name, and registered trade name, o

Re: [lace] PVA

2007-05-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm not sure that Copydex is PVA - none of the other PVA glues smell, as Jean says Copydex smells awful. There are lots of brands on the market - some intended for children's use, some for woodwork (Evo-Stick is a well known brand), some for general craft use. I have a bottle of Anita's tacky

Re: [lace] What is it? object not for tatting

2007-05-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Terry walked past as I was puzzling over it and he said - it's a plannishing hammer, minus the handle. Bakalite would be too brittle for banging anything hard, but as it's very small it could just be intended for tapping something gently ??? Brenda On 14 May 2007, at 20:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] eBay yet again!!

2007-05-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The bobbin in the centre of the picture was made by Archibald Abbot - I have a couple the same, bottom of his range, identified by Christine Springett. Mine don't have the green seed beads added though! Brenda On 7 May 2007, at 22:29, Diana Smith wrote: I really don't know what to think of t

[lace] More on that Ebay seller

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
He's offering some "Antique almost new" tatting - and it is tatting! - but if it's antique it's not almost new and if it's almost new then it's not antique. Item no 330016070534 Does USA have anything like our Trade Descriptions Act. If he were in UK it cold be referred to trading Standards.

Re: [lace] Re: pineapple lace on ebay

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Barbara Bobbinet lace was an early form of machine lace - made on Pusher Machines which were the forerunners to Leavers machines. The designs are based on BL lace with point ground net. Brenda On 6 May 2007, at 19:53, Barbara Joyce wrote: Brenda, I've never heard the term bobbinet

Re: [lace] Re: pineapple lace on ebay

2007-05-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's now described as bobbinet lace - which it isn't either! Brenda On 6 May 2007, at 05:11, Tamara P Duvall wrote: On May 5, 2007, at 23:33, bevw wrote: The description has been revised - it's a rather nice lace actually. Item: Antique Vintage Unusual Ivory Pineapple Bobbin Lace (33011566

Re: [lace] Re: Copyright, and lace patterns

2007-04-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
You are allowed to copy a percentage (10% I think) of a library book for your own personal use/study. That would surely cover you if you borrow a lace book and make one, maybe two, patterns from it. If it's an instruction book and you intend to work through all the instructions from cover to

[lace] Ultra fine silk thread

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've just been Googling and found a possible source of ultrafine silk thread - filaments of silk sold for opthalmic and micro surgery sutures, the finest being 0.02 mm diameter. The finest thread in the Wolter-Kampmann book is 6dD which I think means 0.06 mm diameter (15 band/15 slip Egyptian

[lace] More copyright questions

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Vivien wrote: Hi, we are one of the biggest designers of Torchon lace patterns. They are, in English law, copy right. You may not copy at all without our permission. We tell our customer we don't mind them copying the bought copy for their own use. It is illegal to copy and give away copies

[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Copyright questions

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Moving this to lace because it's lace related. Further to any remarks I may have made about copyright on a painting I'm now pretty sure I was wrong in my first posting to lace-chat about this and that the right to copy remains with the artist, unless the contract of sale specifically includes

Re: [lace] A Most Unusual Spangle

2007-04-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello David You should get the bobbin inscribed with YOUR name, and perhaps the date the teeth were extracted. Hope your mouth is feeling better now Brenda Fortunately my Dentist hails from the UK and knows about Lace bobbins etc. He had no qualms at all about drilling a hole through each of

[lace] Pannomia Lace - was Reading Convention

2007-04-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Robin That pannomia lace is neat. When you say crocheted braids, do you mean the lines around each area, like Romanian point lace? That's very interesting that it's found in Hungary, also. No - the crochet bit is the braids that form the container holding the flowers and the curly bits

[lace] Reading Convention

2007-04-15 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Just home from Reading - for me it was one of the shorter journeys home from a Lace Guild Convention. Met up with lots of old and new friends including a former student who moved from Kent to Wiltshire about 20 years ago, the first time I've met her since. I've just uploaded a couple of pics

[lace] Polyester thread - was [lace-chat] Sewing Thread: was Sewing with Martha

2007-04-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I'm moving this to Lace because it's relevant to lacemaking (the quality of cotton thread may vary, but polyester is polyester . . . . NAY! Some polyester is chopped up to suit cotton-spinning machines, and is very fuzzy and weak. In addition to having a short staple, cheap poly threads ma

Re: [lace] Lace Moire lamp

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
However, the whole idea of Moire lace is Fantastic. Who knows - I might try a Tiny bit one day - just for fun I wonder if other grounds would work as well! - Needlelace might be easier!!! I wouldn't have thought so! The size and shape of NL meshes is down to personal skills with the

Re: [lace] Re: Large bobbins?

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes, I agree The wraps/cm is a good guide, but all the other variables - fibre type, harvest quality, dying/bleaching, individual tensioning etc etc all have a part to play in the finished lace. Brenda An 80/1 will measure by wrapping slightly thicker than 160/2 in the same thread - becaus

Re: [lace] Horror kit re-born?

2007-04-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've always said that the horror kits' best quality is that they make people want to join a class because they can't manage on their own! BTW, that's the US horror kit on Amazon - the English version doesn't even have a foam board, it has a very lightweight polystyrene cylinder which you are s

Re: [lace] Lace - Tonder/Bucks

2007-04-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sue The OIDFA Point Ground Study Group produced a book in 2001 detailing all the technical differences between the various Point Ground laces. http://www.oidfa.com/index%20en.htm Brenda On 3 Apr 2007, at 12:06, Sue wrote: Good morning spiders, As a very keen Bucks Point lace maker I was

Re: [lace] Lace Moire lamp

2007-04-03 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Julie It's brilliant! How on earth did you find the patience to make so much roseground, and all exactly the same version at that! Brenda I have finally got around to putting up photos and a description of a project I completed a few years ago to explore moiré patterns in lace. If y

Re: [lace] Re: Large bobbins?

2007-04-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Tamara I measured it as 40 wraps/cm An 80/1 will measure by wrapping slightly thicker than 160/2 in the same thread - because the plying firms the thread up a bit so that it doesn't flatten and spread as much. A 240/3 would measure slightly finer still even though it has the same amoun

Re: [lace] Large bobbins?

2007-04-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Tamara There's an article about big bobbins on Jane Atkinson's website http://www.lace.nildram.co.uk/html/articles.htm I have about 100-120 (never really counted them) of the 'Large Continentals' imported by Tim Parker. 2nd left in the pic on Jane's website. If I need still more then I

[lace] Slip threads

2007-03-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear Spiders I have recently acquired some old slip threads - thank you Lynne - and my quandry is whether or not I should break the packaging in order to measure the threads. Slip thread, is gassed cotton in skeins as traditionally used by lacemakers in England. According to Thomas Wright,

Re: [lace] thread help please

2007-03-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
No, I haven't seen that thread (yet!) The way I make a wrapping is to draw the parallel lines exactly 1 cm apart, using the computer, and print out onto paper. Then take a strip of the paper and fold it around a small piece of card so that it's stiff enough to handle and the lines are straigh

Re: [lace] Pony Bead Bobbins

2007-03-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Patty That's the most useful bit of ASCII art I've seen in ages! Describes the bobbins much better than words can Brenda Pony Beads are relatively large beads with large holes, usually plastic. Glued onto a bamboo skewer from your friendly local supermarket (cut to the right bobbin l

[lace] Lace Guild Convention

2007-03-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've received my info pack from the Lace Guild and I'm really pleased with the workshops I've got places on, none involve lugging pillows around and three good tutors. Fri pm: Beaded tassels with Sue Dane Sat am: Child's play - pattern design with Jane Atkinson Sun am: Looking at lace with G

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Karen That surprises me - I've only ever seen one pattern (modern torchon) with a working angle as steep as that, and it was an experimental design as part of a City & Guilds exam course. Also maybe some of the very distorted computer generated patterns might have small areas like that

Re: [lace] Fw: we are the manufacturer and exporter of the sewing thread

2007-03-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I got that spam, but I get quite a few textiles related spams anyway, and treated it just the same as I treat financial or viagra spams - hit the "junk-mail" key. That way anything else from that sender automatically goes into the junk-trash which self deletes every time I switch the computer

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
o use lots of techniques taken from other laces as well. That's true of all modern forms of lace too. Brenda Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Paternoster Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:30 AM To: Alice Howel

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jo Do you know if Martina measured by wrapping and then converting to dD or did she use a micrometer? If she did that would explain the differences. Brenda In tight curves it might happen that the worker kind of goes through a tunnel. then your assumption might be true. Otherwise you g

Re: [lace] silk thread, and measuring in reverse

2007-03-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Alice No I haven't tried working out the thread size from a finished item! Cloth stitch should have 4 threads between pinholes measured vertically but only 2 threads between them if measured horizontally. Look at any thread diagram to confirm this. In torchon it means that in cloth st

Re: [lace] quiet list, and silk thread

2007-03-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue Guetermann 100/3 measures 27 w/cm so ideally, for torchon, needs 4.5 mm between footedge pins. 2 mm graph gives 4 mm and 1/10" graph gives 5 mm, so either could be used. See: http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/threadsize.html Brenda I haven't yet used silk but sh

[lace] The blog

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Having read through all your replies I've decided that it's probably not worth the effort of writing , in English or any other language, to the blogger as it probably wouldn't have any outcome other than maybe generating a bit more spam. As I said at the start of this thread, I consider that a

Re: [lace] Novelty colors

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Susan Some of the threads listed might be a bit fine for tatting and knitting, but have a look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/threadsize/colourthreads.html Brenda On 24 Feb 2007, at 22:15, Susan Reishus wrote: What is a good source of finer knitting and tatting threads fro

Re: [lace] distributors of Liana threads

2007-02-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Coats, Anchor and Mez are all part of the same company - not sure who owns whom - but the different brands often appear side by side, with Mez being marketed more in continental Europe, Anchor in USA & Japan and Coats in Britain, so it could well be just a different branding of the same product

Re: [lace] spangles for embroidery or lace

2007-02-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Beth Spangles in that context were small metallic discs incorporated into embroideries - the modern name is sequin, though nowadays they are made of metalised polyester. Try http://www.ccartwright.com/ or google for sequins. For the reproduction renaissance lace I'm doing (have to rest

Re: [lace] distributors of Liana threads

2007-02-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Linda This is a thread that I haven't actually seen myself, so can only make educated guesses. http://www.sewandso.co.uk/ran1026-0.html has a description of the thread, describing it as 'ticket size 10' This looks like 3ply thread with one of the plies being methlon (glitter) http://w

Re: [lace] blog

2007-02-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
omputer is protected - ) and lo and behold I'm listening to a bit of music by Eric Clapton. And I seriously doubt that the person who put that blog together had permission from Clapton to use his work - especially without attribution. Their logic is obvious, however - only steal from

Re: [lace] blog

2007-02-22 Thread Brenda Paternoster
This is a website with lots of lace information including lace ID pics, lace stamps and lace postcards, BUT at the very bottom of the very long page there are three English bone bobbins - they are MINE! The pictures have been taken from my website without my having been asked for permission an

Re: [lace] Lace Buttons

2007-02-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Hendrika Now the button collector , who mentioned that she is familiar with crochet buttons ,and myself are rather curious if there are, or if anyone has ever heard of, Lace buttons ? Dorset buttons, as used on the traditional smocks worn by agricultural workers, are a form of needl

Re: [lace] Bedfordshire lace term

2007-02-05 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Diana Some of the plaited straw work is delicate enough to be called lace anyway. On a couple of occasions Lace Guild Conventions have included straw plaiting displays and IIRC as a taster workshop also. But you are right, straw plaiting (mostly for hats) went alongside BL in Bedfords

Re: [lace] Re: Horizontal bars in Le Pompe

2007-02-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Tamara I'd call that a lock stitch, not a false plait. Just another lacemaking technique that has more than one name. Brenda On 1 Feb 2007, at 02:38, Tamara P Duvall wrote: It's something she calls a "false plait", though it's not the same kind of "false plait that I know from laces with s

[lace] Brok 36 - Oops got it wrong!

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I wrote: Thickness wise Brok 36/2 compares to Bouc 80 and Brok 36/3 to Bouc 90 Sorry, I looked up Bouc linen, not Bockens! As Beth says Brok 36/3 is the same thickness as Bockens 100/2, Brok 36/2 is between Bockens 100/2 and 120/2. Brenda Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orph

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ellen On 30 Jan 2007, at 05:06, Ellen Winnie wrote: Most modern metallic threads just don't work. Most modern metallic threads have no metal in them, and are too fine in diameter. Most modern metallic threads are made from polyester coated aluminium foil. Aluminium *IS* metal. I do agr

Re: [lace] Brok 36

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thickness wise Brok 36/2 compares to Bouc 80 and Brok 36/3 to Bouc 90 Brenda On 30 Jan 2007, at 13:36, Tania Gruning wrote: I am preparing my pillow for the torchon fan pattern from Geraldine Stotts book, unfortunately I have no access right now for brok cotton. I do however have 5 different

Re: [lace] Thanks

2007-01-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Bev It wasn't me - I've been reading this thread with interest but haven't had any input to it. I think it was Sue Fink's idea (?) to use styrofoam with magic threads, which sounds like a great idea, will have to try it next time - and promise only to stick the pins in the foam or the pi

Re: [lace] pictures of putting fabric in lace

2007-01-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thanks Alice for the link. They all show fabric being cut to match the size of the lace, attached and trimmed/hemmed afterwards. No messing around trying to make the lace fit a ready hemmed middle; one of my pet hates! Brenda The page with Jeri's collar had a link at the bottom that led me

Re: [lace] Angle of corner

2007-01-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Leonard If it's the relative tension of the headside and footside of a point ground or similar lace that makes a pricking with a corner at 90 degrees produce lace where the corner isn't, then this may be the same factor that makes a straight length of Bucks have a ruffled headside when

Re: [lace] OK, I'm confused...

2007-01-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sue It's a combination of (Alice's) study and (Betty Ann's) experience. From my experience the best ID books are those by Pat Earnshaw: 'Bobbin and Needle Laces, Identification and Care' 'The Identification of Lace' and for machine lace 'Lace Machines and Machine Lace' 'How to Recognise Machi

Re: [lace] Rauma lace corners

2007-01-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's not so much the pattern that affects how a corner will lie, it's the stitch combinations used to work up the patter that matters. To prove this try working a torchon sample, with a 90 degree corner. Work it once with the standard CTpCT ground and again with CTCTpCTCT. Allow both samples

Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?

2007-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Further to that - if you select WindowsWord format that too defaults the file name to just "something". If you change it to "something.doc" it becomes a Word file that should open on any windows PC. Brenda On 8 Jan 2007, at 14:08, Brenda Paternoster wrote: Tamara I ha

Re: [lace] Patterns' sending -- help?

2007-01-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Tamara I have Appleworks 6. If I 'Save As' in Appleworks the default option is the Appleworks format "something.cwk". However, if I choose Text from the file format list it will just come out as "something" which should open Word on a Windows machine, but that Windows PC is less likely to t

Re: [lace] straight v diagonal update

2007-01-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Jenny Glad the penny's dropped for you. Just one thing - when you said (on the web page) Now that I finally got my head around that it was a simple case of measuring to see the distances between dot A and dot B. I however chose to measure over a distance of 10 dots and divided by 10 to g

Re: [lace] Scanning

2007-01-06 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Tamara I use RBrowser which is a free download http://www.rbrowser.com/download.html Currently I'm using version3 (RBrowser Lite) but having just gone into their website I see that has been succeeded by version 4. Because it's all working just fine I'm loath to upgrade - on the "if it ain'

Re: [lace] Mathematical textiles

2006-12-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
They are fascinating aren't they. The problem with trying to make BL structure like these is getting a shaped pricking - you'd need to make a crochet version first and use that for the pricking! The only piece of truly shaped BL (as opposed to flat lace that has been distorted) that I've see

Re: [lace] Confused question?

2006-12-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
If you use graph paper and turn it through *45* degrees the squares look like diamonds - turning it through 90 degrees they are still 'squares' If you are using regular squared graph paper to design torchon the usual practice is to put a dot on every other intersection so that you get the dia

Re: [lace] fiber optic filament for lace?

2006-12-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I've not tried using fibre optic filament for lace but I have used monofilament a couple of times. As weavers in a couple of 'sari' bookmarks - see Steph Peters' website http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/bobbinlace/sari.htm Not as difficult to use as I thought it would be. I've also made a

Re: [lace] Alexandra Stillwell's Book

2006-12-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
For anyone in UK it's available direct from Alex - 24.50 plus 2.75 p&p - total 27-25. Mine was posted on 15/12 and arrived on 16/12 but I kept it unopened until Christmas day. I haven't had time to read it properly but it's 260pp and contains just about everything you could want to know about

Re: [lace] Re: Building a catalogue -- field names

2006-12-26 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Tamara As you say Appleworks includes a card index/database, plus a spreadsheet, a word processor and drawing , painting and presentation programs. All fairly basic without all the bells and whistles of the Microsoft equivalents, but the database is quite adequate for what you want to do (an

Re: [lace] bucks point grids

2006-12-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Oops sorry, my mistake. Jo's grids DO have a constant angle - because the diameters of each concentric circle of dots increase more as the circles get bigger - on 'regular' graph papers the diameters increase by a fixed amount each time. As with everything there is a penalty to pay for this

[lace] Bucks point grids

2006-12-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Oops sorry, forgot to include the URL for Jo Falkink's circular grids http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROT

Re: [lace] bucks point grids

2006-12-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Are you planning to use a circular grid or a straight grid cut to a fan leaf shape? The 180 degrees of the fan leaf shape has nothing to do with working angles. A fan leaf is just part of a circular edging; it might be a full semi circle of 180 degrees or it might be a bit less - 150 r 160 de

Re: [lace] Bucks angles - was Advent calender 16th

2006-12-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 16 Dec 2006, at 17:12, Sue Babbs wrote: In this case, the grid is a 60 degree one, so that you can get 6 "repeats" in a circle. (360 degrees divided by 6 gives 60 degrees) 60 degrees is also the simplest of the 52-70 range to replicate if you are drawing your pricking on graph paper, So

Re: [lace] Fw: Thread site

2006-12-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Yes Sue, I've made a sample (bookmark) using 120/2 silk and bamboo from Bart & Francis. Nice thread to work with. Brenda On 16 Dec 2006, at 15:25, Sue Babbs wrote: I've just been sent the following website by a weaver friend, and it ties in very closely with the recent discussion on Arachne

[lace] Christmas Greetings from Brenda & Terry

2006-12-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
With just over a week to go until the big day I've almost finished the shopping, hung the decorations and written the cards. To see our electronic card please click on the link below http://tinyurl.com/vcapa Wishing you all a very happy Christmas. May the lace threads never tangle, the ancestor

Re: [lace] black ethafoam

2006-12-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thanks Kenn for so much info about ethafoam, but be wary of covering a pillow with denim. Indigo dyes are VERY fugative - some brands of jeans are guranteed to to bleed colour in the wash! Brenda On 14 Dec 2006, at 04:16, kenn van dieren wrote: Betty's comment of covering it with felt or woo

Re: [lace] Re: Beads - was Lace for Christmas

2006-11-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
That's just one way to add beads and would take the place of a ground stitch/pin hole. Earlier this year at Lace Guild Convention I did a taster workshop on adding beads to BL. Go to http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/arachne/convention2006.htm scroll to the bottom of the page and you'l

Re: [lace] Wire plying?

2006-11-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
My one attempt at making BL with wire was not a success, but further to Lorri's comments about twisting the wires together starting the work hardening process; if you have access to a small blowtorch plus tongs and a fire resistant surface you could twist two or three wires together, anneal the

Re: [lace] Lace Dress

2006-11-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Machine lace (Barmen machine) does have pairs of "workers", but my feeling is that this is hand made BL, Russian or other Eastern European. Looks as though there are lots of sewings joining the braids together, that's not something that the Barmen machine can do. Yes Clay, I do think that it

Re: [lace] 24 hearts in bobbinlace

2006-11-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jenny Juul linen is Danish as is the book so that probably is the thread she used. Altin Basak at 20 wraps/cm is only marginally finer so should be IK with those patterns. Linen does usually have a bit more 'oomph' than cotton, but the 3 plies of the Altin basak will help. Go ahead and

Re: [lace] Music motifs

2006-11-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Mary If you can get hold of a copy of "Milca Eremiasva - Rec Krajky" (Milca Eremiasva - The Language of Lace) there are some wonderful pictorial pieces of lace some of which depict classic musicians and instruments. Also flowers, architecture, landscapes, jewellery, Madonna & child etc

Re: [lace] Madeira holographic gold thread wanted - UK

2006-11-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Patricia It's listed in my threads book so it IS lace related! I've seen it in a local embroidery supplies shop, there's a good chance that anywhere stockng Madeira thread will have some, especially at this time of year. If you are making enquiries by phone/email it's properly called M

Re: [lace] moved websites

2006-11-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jo http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/ doesn't not work, nor does http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/index.htm or http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce//index.html but this one does! http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne2005/ Maybe Barbara doesn't have a home page. Re: http://homepage.mac.com/je

Re: [lace] UK Lace Guild

2006-11-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Patricia UK adult membership of the lace Guild is £23 per year Contact Maggie who does membership renewal by: email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephone - 01384 390739 fax - 01384 15 s-mail - The Hollies, 53 Audnam, Stourbridge West Midlands DY8 4AE Brenda On 2 Nov 2006, at 21:10, [EMAIL PRO

Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings

2006-10-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
g the top edge (it's the side actually on the finished piece). Two paper strings run all around the edge so they're fairly long. They won't wind on to bobbins, but I've managed to coil them to make them a bit more manageable. They're quite stiff and behave like springy wi

[lace] My website pattern has been changed

2006-10-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Dear friends At long last I have got around to changing the BL pattern on my website - it's now the hexagonal edging which was pattern 1. The voting was very close with pattern 1 getting 59 votes, pattern 2 got 55 votes and pattern 3 trailed with 31 votes. I am especially pleased that patte

Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings

2006-10-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book "Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings". Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. It appears that the lace is worked from the righ

Re: [lace] starching on a pillow

2006-10-24 Thread Brenda Paternoster
-out- able. In fact, in museum herbaria, they use only PVA for the labels on the plant sheets, exactly because it can be removed. If it can be washed out of paper, surely it can be washed out of lace. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: [lace] starching on a pillow

2006-10-23 Thread Brenda Paternoster
The permanent stiffener from Jana isn't actually starch (despite the fact that that's what she calls it in translation). It's actually PVA, or some similar polymer. Once it's applied to lace, or anything else, it's there permanently and no amount of washing will get it out. Starch on the oth

Re: [lace] Jana Novak Moravia Books

2006-10-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I hope Jana's book will be available at Tonbridge tomorrow. Brenda On 20 Oct 2006, at 21:51, Clay Blackwell wrote: Yes, Jana Novak does have a good ending for a piece with a braid bottom. Essentially, she takes each pair of passives half-way through the braid, throws them aside, and continue

Re: [lace] Jana Novak Moravia Books

2006-10-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Diane I agree with you that Jane is a great teacher and very inspiring. I did a taster workshop with her about 10 years ago and went home with my fingers itching to get on and do more. The final outcome was a waistcoat (vest in US) and sweater. Jane was also the inspiration behind sev

Re: [lace] Suppliers Fair

2006-10-21 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Sorry I can't get to Norwich, but tomorrow (Sun 22nd) I, and Sue Dane, will be at Tonbridge Suppliers' fair, manning The Lace Guild stand. If you are there do come and say 'hello'. Brenda On 20 Oct 2006, at 22:32, Sue wrote: I would like to let any Arachne members who could get to Norfolk,

Re: [lace] Maltese Lace on Ebay

2006-10-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
David, to me this looks like a typical piece of fairly recently made Maltese lace, intended for the tourist trade - despite the seller's claim that it's vintage. It looks to be cotton or linen and not the silk of most older pieces. Also it's not had time for the strips of lace to separate fro

Re: [lace] Help please

2006-10-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ann Yes, use the Bruges pivot pin method. The first time you work that pinhole in the usual way (by working through the last passive in cloth stitch, twist the workers and stick the pin). On the next and subsequent times you come to that pin work until the last pair of passives, twist t

[lace] Re: A thread quesion

2006-09-28 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jackie It probably is linen - or just possibly hemp or manilla or some other vegetable fibre. Slubs are very characteristic of linen. Is it plied or a singles yarn? If it's working up in a way that you like then yes, it's worth a mint. Brenda On 28 Sep 2006, at 09:17, Jackie Bowhey

Re: [lace] Pricking card

2006-09-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Back in the late 1960s I worked for MOD in Woolwich Arsenal testing papers and boards. We quite often had "glazed board" which was used for cartridge cases in for testing. After all tests were completed and satisfactory any excess was disposed of - I could have brought home loads of pricking

Re: [lace] Interesting item on ebay

2006-09-16 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Jean For once an ebay seller does seem to have the description right! They are used for stacking bobbins in an orderly fashion whilst working on another section. The photo doesn't show how long the pin sticking out of the round end is but it should be fairly substantial so that the

Re: [lace] Tess's e-mail address?

2006-09-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Aurelia I've written to Tess, and had a reply from her at that address during the last 24 hours so it is working. I'd guess it's something to do with AOL currently not liking earthlink. From time to time AOL seem to reject all messages from one or other ISP because they turn the spam

[lace] pictures of lace - copyright

2006-09-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
On 14 Sep 2006, at 01:00, Tess Parrish wrote: I would certainly think that any old laces in your personal collections would be free to copy, but I think one would have to be careful about modern work. Certainly, any lace made from someone else's design might not be permitted, unless the desig

[lace] Limerick lace

2006-09-13 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello spiders I've just found this link via a family history discussion group, but there are lots of pictures of Limerick lace at www.limerickcity.ie then click on Library, museum, arts and recreation from the list on the left, then select museum, then catalogue on-line, then search by keywo

Re: [lace] Re: Thread help needed

2006-09-01 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Maxine Tamara's already listed the thread most likely to be available to you, but add these to the list too: 23 w/cm - Coats mercer crochet 40 24 w/cm - Brok 24/3, Goldschild 80/3 (Nm 50/3) 25 w/cm - Coats mercer crochet, Altin Basak Clasik 70 Brenda I have a class next weekend, and I

Re: [lace] website

2006-08-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It just comes up with a lot of broken links for me. I guess it's probably because the webpage requires IE6, though there's no error message to say so. The latest version for Mac is IE5 so I can't upgrade and at work we don't have IE6 either. OK it's my choice to use mac and not windows, but

Re: [lace] Tebbs & the Art of Bobbin Lace

2006-08-29 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Rosemary I have the Paul Minet 1978 reprint of "Tebbs' Art of Bobbin Lace Reprint including Supplement" which is effectively two books in one. The first half of the book is "The Art of Bobbin Lace" by Louisa A Tebbs and the second half of the book is "Supplement to the Art of Bobbin Lace

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