It's also perhaps worth noting that what Jeri has cited simply as "(ISP)"
is "gmail.com" in the case of the NELG addresses. Are the 'free' (i.e.,
ad-supported) email services US-only or would they be available in the UK?
Because not only are the addresses "anonymous" in the sense that they don't
I agree it's spam. Best not to even open the email, much less clicking on
the link. Some viruses activate when an email message is opened, and don't
require clicking on a hyperlink.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 7:31 AM, wrote:
> My email filters flagged
It's a city in Belgium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lier,_Belgium
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:43 PM, mary carey wrote:
> Could someone please explain to this uneducated Lacemaker what Lier is?
> It is
> a name I have not heard before.
>
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Devon,
I'm with Lorelei, I can't see tallies, so I'm not sure of this
identification, but if it's braids connecting the motifs, how about
mid-18th C Brussels? Laurie Waters identified a very similar piece for me
as "Brussels a Brides", probably Flemish given the quality.
Elizabeth Kurella makes
Alex et al.,
I realize that copyright has been discussed before on Arachne, but I think
it's important that someone respond to Alex's initial statement. I agree
with you that once you give out a pattern, you have (almost) no control
over who copies it, but it is NOT in the public domain, at least
Devon -- I think "off-loom weaving" would correctly apply to only bobbin
lace, since needlelace is a form of "off-fabric embroidery" rather than
weaving, no?
This could start another round of definition discussions!
Nancy
Connecticut
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Devon Thein
I second Liz's recommendation. The very first thing I put in Google ("Lace
in Fashion exhibition" without the quotes) turned up quite a number of
articles, reviews, blogs, etc. I'm sure that more poking around will turn
up more hits. For example, I found this amazing Pinterest board:
Hi Devon,
Do you include Battenberg and Princess laces in "revival era lace"? because
there was a lot of that being made. I realize that's really a form of
needle lace rather than bobbin lace, but I don't see that the OP specified
bobbin lace, just "lace".
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Sat, Feb 18,
Hi Karen,
What are the angles of the grounds in the Ipswich lace samples?
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Karen Thompson
wrote:
> It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
> Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and
Lorelei,
It may be because I am both a collector and a lacemaker, but I don't see
that the two groups differ in what they want to use a name for--to be a
short-hand for some set of data. The data that you as a lacemaker want to
know is the same as what I think collectors want to know--techniques,
Jeri,
Laurie Waters reported at IOLI that she paid the $500 or so to have a
snippet of some lace radiocarbon-dated last year, with the latest, most
precise technology. The lace was thought to be 16th or 17th century. The
radiocarbon dating came out with a range that included the putative date,
Catherine,
I didn't see an answer to your question about Alencon lace, but I don't get
all the [lace] messages, so everybody forgive me if I duplicate someone
else's answer.
Yes, it is apparently still made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hI1uz0p9sk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7lwhYEUCk
It is interesting that the 17th C and early 18th C straight laces from the
Flanders region are today all referred to as Valenciennes or sometimes
Binche by lace dealers--e.g.,
http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html. As soon as a gimp
appears, then that variant is called Mechlin.
It may also be of interest to note that lace collars and cuffs were during
much of their history worn by men as well as, or at times instead of,
women, whereas lappets were worn only by women.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Julie,
Maybe you can analyze the working diagram, figure out where the support pin
should go, then add a smaller hole to your pricking in the right place
relative to the existing pin holes.
I think Ulrike thinks it no problem because 1) she has very experienced
lacemakers making the lace for the
The dress in question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1660s_court_dress.JPG
Parchment lace:
"Cartisane.--Guipure or passementerie made with thin silk- or gilt-covered
strips of parchment." -- The Dry Goods Economist, 1917, Vol. 71, Issues
3813-3822
"Guipure lace, Parchment lace:
Very interesting indeed. It's nice to have a reference one can point to for
what I held as an otherwise unsubstantiated opinion. Thanks Devon!
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 1:34 PM, wrote:
> Since I happen to have all my books in front of me, to Nancyâs
YES! I agree with you Lorelei! I am very dubious of any attribution of a
date earlier than 19th C to any lace with the braided grounds of modern
Val. I think it is very likely that pre-19th C Val wasn't differentiated
from Binche. In the first half of the 19th C, Val and Binche morphed into
the
Hello all,
Robin's post reminded me that I wanted to post a similar query. This coming
summer I'm going over to drive around Scotland for 5 or 6 weeks looking at
prehistoric sites -- chambered tombs, stone circles, etc. I plan to take a
travel pillow with me, and would love to meet up with any
Hi Cindy,
I also no longer get Jeri's emails, and I do check my spam folder every day
or two because this is a 'clean account' and I'm not yet getting genuine
spam. For a while I'd tell my spam folder they were "Not Spam" and move
them out of there, but now they've stopped showing up altogether.
Probably not a legitimate mail from IOLI since I did NOT get it, meaning it
wasn't sent to all IOLI members. Probably used someone's personal address
list.
Best thing to do is to send an email to the Bulletin editor and ask if she
sent something to you.
Nancy
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--your choice.
So who's out there? Lurkers, present yourselves!! Anybody in the London
area interested?
Nancy Neff
Connecticut, USA
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The Amelia Ars class was full--it was so popular that a lot of people for
whom it was first choice didn't get in. Carolyn Wetzel also gave an
extremely interesting talk at the banquet on a type of lush gold and silver
embroidery from 15th and 16th Century Spain. My first choice was Kumiko
part, and then go out to be anchored in the headside
passives. Overall, the results are amazing.
In short, the weekend was great fun. But then, get that many lacemakers
together and it's sure to be a blast!
Nancy Neff
Connecticut, USA
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Brian:
There's a book "Dentelle de Normandie", by Florence Quinette. There are 4
very good pictures of bobbins, one picture showing noquettes covering the
thread.
The book is in both French and English. There is at least one copy
available through Amazon, and Holly Van Sciver carries it.
I
Hi Lori,
There's a pattern in Skovgaard's "The Technique of Tonder Lace" call "The
little heart of Denmark"--do you think that's it? Pattern 9, pp.. 56-57,
if you need to request it from the IOLI Librarian.
Nancy
Nancy A. Neff
Connecticut, USA
On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Lorri Ferguson
On 29 Aug 2016 Jeri wrote:
...Every dispute has at least 2 sides, and the Belgians have been politely
silent about theirs
Not entirely silent -- for a little bit from the Belgian side of the
dispute, see the LaceNews interview with the President of the Belgian
group:
Sorry, forgot to trim my reply. My new email interface hides the original
message, and "out of sight, out of mind", or in my case "blind idiot".
Nancy, clueless in Connecticut USA
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Alison Gray wrote:
>
>> I have just had a couple of messages
Yes, spam. I received one at both my new and old email addresses.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Alison Gray wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> I have just had a couple of messages supposedly from Carol Adkinson, I
> don't
> believe they are, is this spam? Did anyone else get them?
>
I must tell someone about this. I had a visit this afternoon from the
tiniest spider I've ever seen--her body is the size of the head of a lace
pin (not a glass-headed pin but a regular lace pin), She walked all over
the lace I was working on, climbing up individual pins and weaving through
the
I vaguely remember instructions somewhere on how to start continuous lace
so the edge of the start looked like the footside. Or was it how to finish
it? Anyway, one of the ends of the length ended up looking like footside,
so it was neatly finished.
Does anyone have a reference to an
Jeri & Arachnoids,
You made an interesting comment about too few antique laces still being in
the public domain. I have a significant collection of 18th C Binche/Val
and Mechlin, even a few pieces yards long and in pristine condition. My
collection also includes perhaps a hundred or so other
Brian, It seems to me that the primary point of the list is to help one
another, so in my book it's more than okay to keep posting requests for
help. Besides, I find your queries interesting, even though I have nothing
to offer--the only old bobbins I have are continentals, except for two
Hi Avital,
Can the sender of the email below be blocked from this list? or at least given
a warning if similar posts continue. I found the tone of the email
offensive, especially directed at two of our most helpful, pleasant list
members, and when what was being discussed were photocopies
I agree with you, Diana, that lots of people don't know about copyright law,
and to that extent then one would hope that explaining it to him
politely would be useful. What I object to is the tone of his two posts on
Arachne, including name-calling and slurs against what country I live in. I
I like the look of Alison Tolson's painting--she does do a lovely job. Her
range of continentals is very limited, however, so I would recommend Chris
Parsons because he has a wider range of bobbin types, and his artists do a
lovely job also. And Janet Theaker's email said he'd also do squares
Could we please make sure that whomever we pick will do continentals as well
as midlands? I didn't see any Binche or Bayeux or anything other than
midlands on Stuart Johnson's site. I'd like to get a bobbin that I could use
on my pillow, and I use only Binche or Bayeux. The painter that
google Louise West lace and look at the images. Some fantastic lace and at
least one picture of her concrete panels.
NancyConnecticut, where it doesn't seem ever to stop snowing...
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Hi Veronika,
Congrats on your paper--I'm glad to see someone competent working on this. (Jo
also!) I knew 7 or 8 years ago that there was some gold to be mined for bobbin
lace in braid theory (I posted to Arachne a few years ago about it), but I
didn't have the math to tackle it. Good for you!
Since the list has been so quiet, maybe I can bother you all with a question,
the answer to which I should know but I've lost my notes.
Which is the really good version of Pamela Nottingham's Bucks Point book?Â
I've been told there are two editions, or maybe two versions more different
than just
Very interesting! Thanks for the info, David. The entry on Luneburg lenses in
Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens ) includes this sentence
The solution takes a simple and explicit form if one focal point lies at
infinity, and the other on the opposite surface of the lens.
Sorry sorry!! I forgot to trim, and I do sympathize with the digest
subscribers. Mea culpa.
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Just want to let everyone know that the heavy-weight yarn has been spoken
for and is going to a good home. Thanks!
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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I apologize for using the Arachne list for this, but I wanted to reach
deserving knitters and I know that many on Arachne also knit non-lace items.
I'm retrieving things from my parents' old house, before the movers come in
to clean it out and haul everything off to a flea market or the dump.
How about Ipswich lace in the US? Or does that not count since it probably
came over from England?
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lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:20 PM
Subject: [lace]
footside
Has
This is another guide generated within the beading community--nothing exciting
but it's a summary that might be of interest given the recent extensive
discussion about copyright:
http://www.beadingdaily.com/media/p/162306.aspx
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Prices change frequently on Amazon, so it may be of interest to owners of
Ulrike's loose-leaf publications to know that 3 Wilson-Jones A4 binders are
currently $19.19 (35% off), meaning that right now they cost less than either
the 2 or 1 sizes! --go figure. And free shipping if you are a
I can second (third?) the praise for Alex Stillwell's books on Bucks, but I
want to be sure that it is clear, in answer to the original query, that there
are two books, the first on Geometric Bucks Point and a second on Floral
Bucks. The second builds on the first, so you need to get the first
Just an idea, but I'll bet that MS Visio would be good for tatting diagrams.
It has a good interface for handling arcs and curves once you get the knack of
it, and you can make your own library (stencils) of motifs.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: Ruth Budge
Sorry, Yahoo added some extra characters to that link to Alex Stillwell's books.
this should work: http://alexstillwell.wordpress.com/books/
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I tried to send my comments on this discussion but my email was rejected by
the arachne server as spam! Editorial comment on my comment perhaps... :-)
Dec 8 at 2:05 PM
I think there must be a huge amount of variation among
people, since there are different cognitive styles. I didn't find
I'm in Office 2010 Professional Plus--I don't know if there are different
commands in your version or not. But in case you have 2010 or later, (or
maybe 2007), here's how you do it:
1) In the Slide Show tab, select Set Up
Slide Show
2) in the box that comes up, check Loop continuously until
Hi Alex and fellow spiders,
Â
Actually there's a bit of confusion about the
shipping etc. charges for the copies of Alex's book already on ebay:  if
the buyer is in the US, the shipping charges are only $3.43 for economy
shipping (probably Media shipping which can take forever but doesn't
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Those teachers were just being narrow-minded. I've heard that Beds was
started as a modification of Maltese lace, and that's drape-y, so I'll bet
your Beds was more like the original Beds than anything those teachers ever
made! Good for you for framing them and enjoying them.
Nancy
I am to some degree self-taught, starting with the Introduction to Torchon
Lace to get the basics. Mistakes in that book, however, so I'm not sure I'd
recommend it to anyone who is not rather analytical and can work through the
mistakes. Then on to Bucks and Binche, and now old
Sorry, for the book I mentioned I had the wrong title--it was The Torchon
Lace Workbook by Bridget Cook.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Annette,
Please be aware that, in the US at least, images taken by someone
else, even if they are published on-line, are under copyright protection
unless permission to download is explicitly stated on the website. The ebay
buyers who restrict download are protecting their copyright, which they
My apologies to everyone for not trimming my post. That was a bad one!
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Hi Peg,
Actually there are sources of genuine animal-skin parchment on the
web. One on ebay: http://tinyurl.com/p6xstfy. It's probably worth $5 to see
how it does. There were others. Search in Google for real parchment for
sale.
It will be interesting to hear how it goes, since the surface may
and I've just had about 30 messages, all so far from 1 August. I've emailed
Avital just in case messages are getting lost or postponed frequently.
Nancy
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suebabbs...@gmail.com
Cc:
Hi Kim,
Search on Google for Christina Banyard. It says that she died in Dec
2010 in New Jersey, but had been a long-time resident of Lincoln Nebraska. Is
the address you have in Lincoln?
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
... The name given is Cristina Banyard,
and an
Hello spiders,
I had a good time in Belgium, doing both lace and other
things. However, I discovered that two museums are closed and another exhibit
has been taken down:
There was a lace museum in Marche-en-Famenne, but it
has closed. The best I can figure out is that the lace itself may have
Are you thinking of Marche or Binche? It sounds like the latter, and I'm not
absolutely sure the museum is closed, only that the head of the lace group in
Binche said that it was closed and the person making bobbin lace at La Fuseaux
(Grand Place 25, Binche) said there was no museum. I was there
Dear spiders,
I'm not sure where I fall in this debate but I have a couple
of observations to offer. They may be food for thought, or they may deserve to
be ignored--I hope the former.
I wonder if 'maths' is the right term or not.
Just for some context, let me note that I like precision and
This thread of discussion about differences between the sexes has some truth
to it IMHO, but it's also very important to remember that these are
generalizations. There is a lot of variation among both men and women, with a
great amount of overlap in aptitudes and inclinations. Margery's
Apropos of recent discussions about the price of used lace books, I just saw
on amazon.com's used book list for Pamela Nottingham's The Technique of Bucks
Point Lace a used copy offered for $3,968.00 ! (http://tinyurl.com/nymvcqt)
It's gotta be a typo, but it's the winner for now.
Nancy
Dear spiders,
I was thinking of posting the same request. I have a strong
possibility of leaving for Belgium in a couple of weeks and would be very
grateful for people's recommendations of where to see lace, especially 18thC
Valenciennes/Binche/Flanders lace, including anyone with a private
Dear spiders,
I was thinking of posting the same request. I have a strong
possibility of leaving for Belgium in a couple of weeks and would be very
grateful for people's recommendations of where to see lace, especially 18thC
Valenciennes/Binche/Flanders lace, including anyone with a private
My apologies for the double post. Yahoo email is acting up: timed out and said
it hadn't sent it, but apparently had...
Sorry!
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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I forgot to ask a related question: does anyone know any of the curators at
the museums who might be open to letting me photograph lace that's in their
collection but not on exhibit? For example, I assume that the Museum of Lace
and Costume in Brussels must have a more extensive collection than
No, I should have collection or list -- I didn't mean set in that sense.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Sent: Friday,
June 7, 2013 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Idrija
Another set of books
available
Another set of books available on this site--click on Bibliography to the
left.
http://www.cipkarskasola.si/ANG/index.html
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Cc:
Lorelei Halley
Yes indeed Clay -- exciting!
Brighton is the first place I think of given
those names/places.
1981 or 1881? If 1981 then it sounds unusual, both to
have a commemorative bobbin for someone's death but also for the subject
matter of the pictures--see the discussion at
I am on my first piece of lace using red card and I can attest that it is MUCH
easier to see the threads. Must be something scientific about wavelengths or
something.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: Jacquie Tinch laceandb...@aol.com
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
What lovely work! and a very sophisticated web site. I am blown away by how
beautiful your needlelace is--you have such talent. I've tried my hand at
needlelace and I find bobbin lace so much simpler easier to control, so I
really admire your abilities. (and slightly envious as well :-)
Nancy
Thanks Alex!
The Greek Gods piece is stunning. I like the banner you have
across the top of your pages too--is it in one of your books? What a great
website.
Everybody, if you haven't clicked on her link, do so!
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
I was part way
One of my ferrets (they both still live because I don't know which one)
climbed up my stack of lace pillows last night to the one I've been working
on. Ferrets like to dig, and they like things that rustle, click, or
otherwise make noise. Image the little beast's delight when s/he discovered
For getting really close, I've discovered I can wear my trifocals and then
wear an off-the-shelf pair of 3.5s over/in front of my prescription glasses.
I've gotten remarks like a really tentative why are you wearing two pairs of
glasses? as if they are afraid I've gone crazy and will be
Hi Alice,
I'd love to see your 16th century Flanders, as would others I'm
sure. Any possibility that you could post pictures to LACEIOLI Ning group?
Nancy
in Connecticut, cleaning out a flooded basement,
throwing water-logged *stuff* away, and thinking it doesn't matter much
because all my
With regard to the original question, I'm also addicted to bobbin lace. I've
tried all others I know of except hairpin lace, but the only other type I
really enjoy is hardanger and other lace-like embroidery--go figure! I'd like
to do more needle lace but I'm hopelessly bad at it, whereas I seem
Okay, I'll stick my neck out and post my response to the list. I'd spear-head
it but I don't know how I could handle mailing out so many etc. The logistics
have to be thought out...
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:27 PM
Subject:
Fw: [lace] Twentieth anniversary flash drive
Okay, I'll stick my neck out
and post my response to the list. I'd spear-head it but I don't know how I
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To: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com
Cc: Arachne lace@arachne.com;
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:04 PM
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Just a thought
about the fast pace
And we could put some sort of logo or inscription on a tatting shuttle, but
what will we do for the needle-lacers? Or those who primarily knit or
crochet? Certainly needle-lace is as historical as bobbin lace, more so if
bobbin-lace started as a way to make lace faster than punto in aria.
I have found that sometimes the selvedge edge can be a little furry with
ends of the weft threads, in which case I have found that it is still thin and
smooth if I fold those edges carefully under, taping them down with thin
iron-on hem tape. My favorite working cloth has that finish on the edge
http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/royals-attend-the-london-2012-olympic-games
#slide=50652181
It IS a rather nice dress--asymmetry a little avant garde
for HRM I think.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: Bridget Marrow bridgetmar...@msn.com
To:
Angela and others:
Has anyone found any problems in opening designs done
under R-XP or 2000 with the new Lace 8?
Thanks,
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: Angela angelal...@btinternet.com
To: Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject:
My biggest problem is a gradually worsening tremor--essential tremor,
inherited from my father's side of the family. My Dad's tremor is very bad, so
I can see where I'm headed and it's scary. I'm already having trouble putting
pins in (hitting the hole when your hand is shaking all over the
Hi Sue,
In my experience an excellent source of translations is OIDFA's
compendium of translations of lace-related words, International Lace
Dictionary. I don't see it for sale on their website any more, but one of the
lace vendors may still have copies.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
Fellow arachnids:
I just stumbled on an amazing page of links having all
sorts of things to do with lace (and a search of the archives didn't find the
URL, so maybe it hasn't been posted to Arachne yet). Feels like I just found
a gold nugget!
http://kantklos.info-pagina.com/
Nancy
home with
Jo,
A number of old Flemish laces I've worked or seen in books have small
areas of half stitch. In my experience the challenge (pitfall?) is making a
neat transition between the surrounding cloth stitch and the half-stitch
areas. I don't believe I have seen half stitch by itself (i.e., an
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To: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com
Cc: Arachne
lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 6:10 PM
Subject: Re:
[lace] single bobbin unwinding
I've had this happen with a bobbin that
didn't have the thread wound tightly against the top barrier of the thread
area. I normally put
So did everyone see the Duchess Catherine's latest lace dress? Between the
dress and the figure--wow.
http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/kate-middleton-wears-temperley-dress-premiere-
eve-30th-161100440.html
Nancy, not usually a royal-watcher,
in Connecticut,
USA (aka the colonies :-)
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Hi all,
I've searched the archives but haven't found the answer to this
particular question: I have about 140 bobbins on my pillow, 120/2 thread, and
of the 140 one bobbin particular keeps unwinding--i.e. the working length of
the thread (thread leash) on that bobbin gets longer than on the
Too much thread on the bobbin to rewind and keep my sanity--I think the double
hitch is the solution, but I was rather interested in the cause of neurosis in
a bobbin. :-)
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com
To: Nancy Neff nnef
From: J
D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com
To: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com; Lace
Arachne lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 3:05 PM
Subject:
Re: [lace] single bobbin unwinding
Hi Nancy,
Has your 'neurotic' bobbin
got a head of a slightly different shape to the
others? Or has
It's available on Amazon.com for $16.94.
From: jeria...@aol.com jeria...@aol.com
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent:
Monday, December 12, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: [lace] Third Embroidery/Lace Book
by Gail Marsh, Gawthorpe Hall Collection
Book Review
If you are looking
Hi Lora,
I first saw bobbin lace being made by a woman demonstrating at a
needlework (!) exhibition in Devon, UK, in 1987. I wish I knew who that lady
was because I would thank her several times over: I watched mesmerized for
20-30 minutes. When she noticed that others had come and gone but I
the advantages of
protecting lace from dust!
Nancy
From:
Jane Partridge jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk
To: Nancy Neff
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Cc: Debora Lustgarten drac...@primus.ca; Arachne
lace@arachne.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:43 AM
Subject:
[lace] Idea
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