RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-19 Thread Paul Underwood
Hi all, To (hopefully) complete this thread, I have now heard back from Legacy Technical Help, who state; Thank you for sending your family file backup. I can see the problems in your family file, but I don't have a clue as to the cause. There are no other reports of this happening to other

Fw: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Paul Underwood
Apologies for the long message. I followed the advice of Legacy Technical Help, as follows; 1. Click Search on the menu bar and select Find to open the Search window. 2. Click on the Detail Search tab and then set the following 'Primary Conditions': Look for whom? = Individual Where to look =

RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Jennifer Crockett
://colston-wenck.com -Original Message- From: Paul Underwood [mailto:dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 1:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: Fw: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss Apologies for the long message. I followed the advice of Legacy

RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Jennifer Crockett
[mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 2:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss Paul, I decided to take you up on the challenge and looked at mine. I didn't find (yet - I haven't gone through all of mine) your error but did find

Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Steve Voght
...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 2:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss Paul, I decided to take you up on the challenge and looked at mine. I didn't find (yet - I haven't gone through all of mine) your error but did find something

Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Paul Underwood
@tiscali.co.uk Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, 15 October, 2010, 17:55 Paul, Are you saying that the change in the number of the RIN is an error and you don't know whether to correct , or that correcting the citation error

RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Fri, 15/10/10, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, 15 October, 2010, 16:21 Further to this, the GEDCOM exported the source

Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-15 Thread Connie Sheets
Much of the recent discussion in this thread has been related to the problems exporting Legacy sources written with SourceWriter via GEDCOM into other programs. Some, if not most, of these issues, as I understand it, are due to the limitations of GEDCOM and are not Legacy bugs. I have found

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-14 Thread Paul Underwood
Thanks for that - at least I know it's not just me. Human error would be too easy a solution! As the problem is occurring in just one field that, as far as I can see cannot be separately printed, it's particularly worrying as I don't know the extent of the data loss. Legacy Technical have now

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-13 Thread Connie Sheets
Paul, I've followed your thread, and my opinion is you have a problem that is not easily replicated, nor is it one I've ever experienced (I use SourceWriter exclusively), except when I used the Source or Event Clipboard and didn't pay enough attention to what I was saving in Detail. In other

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-13 Thread Jan Roberts
-Original Message- From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2010 2:41 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss Paul, I've followed your thread, and my opinion is you have a problem that is not easily replicated

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail Loss

2010-10-12 Thread Paul Underwood
Hi Thanks to all those who responded to this thread, trying to help me sort out the problem of random data loss from Source Details. I contacted Legacy Technical Support on 3rd October, who acknowledged to say a substantive reply would follow. Today, 12th October, I received the following

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - whithout first entering the Citation for that Event? I don't think you have to. No - afer all, an Event without a Citation to back it up is meaningless. Paul U

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: Paul Underwood wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - without first entering the Citation for that Event? Because at that stage, there is no record to attach your citation to? Well that's one way to look

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/07 13:06, Paul Underwood wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - whithout first entering the Citation for that Event? I don't think you have to. No - afer all, an Event without a Citation to back it up is meaningless. Not necessarily. It could be a

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/07 13:16, Paul Underwood wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - without first entering the Citation for that Event? Because at that stage, there is no record to attach your citation to? Well that's one way to look at it, but surely the Source and Detail

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote: You are busted ! No attachments to the list. I did however offer it to anyone. It is still a .doc.  .jpg is the best. I would convert it, but I have no program to open a .doc My apologies to everyone on the group for the

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:06:18 +0100 (BST), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - whithout first entering the Citation for that Event? I don't think you have to. No - afer all, an Event without a Citation to back it up is

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:09:57 +0100 (BST), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Not being very good at this I wasn't sure how to save a 'PrintScreen' as a jpg file, so I just pasted it into Word. Neither one is permitted. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:16:45 +0100 (BST), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Well that's one way to look at it, but surely the Source and Detail of the Citation is an integral part of the Event, not a separate entity and, as such, should form part of the same entry, not be inserted

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Thu, 7/10/10, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: The records are actually separate, but linked. They're in different tables in the database. It seems possible to go through the process as described, and create the Citation, but then not save the Event. To me, this causes confusion

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Mon, 4/10/10, leeir...@cox.net leeir...@cox.net wrote: Paul said: No, the data appears correct when pasted, but then is changed later. I only see it when putting in data for subsequent (separate) events. What you are saying still does not sound like you are trying to do something

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/06 08:20, Paul Underwood wrote: As an example, to insert 1861 for a census data for a married couple. He is a 26 year old farmer from Taunton 1. In Pedigree View, click on individual’s name. 2. In Individual’s Information box, press ‘Add’ in Events/Facts. 3. In Add Event box,

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: From: Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010, 11:08 On 2010/10/06 08:20, Paul Underwood wrote: As an example, to insert 1861

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/06 17:41, Paul Underwood wrote: 1. In Pedigree View, click on individual’s name. 2. In Individual’s Information box, press ‘Add’ in Events/Facts. 3. In Add Event box, a) In Event Fact, click down-arrow, select ‘Census’ and click ‘Select’. b) In Description, type ‘Farmer’ c) In

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Wed, 6/10/10, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: Step f) Click on the 'Add or Edit Source Citations' icon. This is not in the top-right corner, unless you've resized things. Now it all begins to make sense. :-) OK - to be strictly accurate it is the 2nd icon from the left of the 4

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:35:13 +0100 (BST), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - whithout first entering the Citation for that Event? I don't think you have to. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Tim Rosenlof
You are busted ! No attachments to the list. I did however offer it to anyone. It is still a .doc. .jpg is the best. I would convert it, but I have no program to open a .doc Tim http://www.xmission.com/~sparky/sourcedetailproblem.doc On 10/6/2010 11:41 AM, Paul Underwood wrote: --- On Mon,

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-06 Thread Mike Fry
On 2010/10/06 19:35, Paul Underwood wrote: Why would you wish to save the Event - which you could - without first entering the Citation for that Event? Because at that stage, there is no record to attach your citation to? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines:

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Mon, 4/10/10, leeir...@cox.net leeir...@cox.net wrote: Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying, but it sounds like you think you have one Citation Detail (Source Detail) per Event/Fact and that you think you are linking more than one Source to the one Citation Detail (Source

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Sun, 3/10/10, RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net wrote: When that happened to me a few years ago, I discovered, that by unknowingly sending backups to the C: drive instead of my portable (it was plugged in) my fifth backup (with multimedia) stepped on top of the C:drive. What a

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread leeirons
You had previously indicated that you were looking for information that used to be in the Source Detail but is now missing or is replaced with some random letter. I'm not sure how that would happen with the process you describe below, because you create every Source Detail new and then paste

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread leeirons
Paul said: When clicking into the Citation Details box to insert details for a subsequent Citation, you can see the previous entries, and some are missing/changed. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying, but it sounds like you think you have one Citation Detail (Source Detail) per

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Jan Roberts
@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss You had previously indicated that you were looking for information that used to be in the Source Detail but is now missing or is replaced with some random letter. I'm not sure how that would happen with the process you describe below

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Jan Roberts
: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss I THINK I had a similar problem some time ago - trouble is I don't remember how I fixed it! Sorry. Have you checked the archives? I'm afraid I can't even remember how I worded the problem to give you a clue for searching (blame chemo brain I'm afraid!) My

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Mon, 4/10/10, leeir...@cox.net leeir...@cox.net wrote: You had previously indicated that you were looking for information that used to be in the Source Detail but is now missing or is replaced with some random letter.  I'm not sure how that would happen with the process you describe

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Mon, 4/10/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I THINK I had a similar problem some time ago My problem appeared when I was using the source clipboard - the source details were being replaced by random characters  in subsequent use of the source which I gather is your problem

RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Paul Underwood
--- On Mon, 4/10/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I just checked the Archives (after 21 Nov 2009) for my name and came across 15 pages of messages, including the ones containing my source clipboard problem and the fact that it had started behaving itself.. for no apparent

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:21:23 -0700 (PDT), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: How are you detecting the problem? By looking at a generated report? Or by viewing the Assigned Sources or Source Detail dialogs?

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread leeirons
Paul said: No, the data appears correct when pasted, but then is changed later. I only see it when putting in data for subsequent (separate) events. What you are saying still does not sound like you are trying to do something that is even possible. Could you explain in detail exactly what you

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Send the screenshot to me. I can post it really quick on my web space Regards, Tim Rosenlof On 10/4/2010 10:10 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 23:21:23 -0700 (PDT), Paul Underwood --- On Sun, 3/10/10, Dennis M. Kowallekkowal...@iglou.com wrote: Can you post a screenshot

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-04 Thread BMcL Robinson
- Original Message - From: Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:04 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss --- On Mon, 4/10/10, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I THINK I had a similar problem some time ago

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-03 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 18:22:34 + (GMT), Paul Underwood dan_c...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Recently, some Details have been disappearing, overwritten with an apparently random single letter or, occasionally, a detail being used to update another unrelated record. How are you detecting the problem? By

Re: [LegacyUG] Citation Detail loss

2010-10-03 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When that happened to me a few years ago, I discovered, that by unknowingly sending backups to the C: drive instead of my portable (it was plugged in) my fifth backup (with multimedia) stepped on top of the C:drive. What a mess. My harddrive lost about 100 photos under the overwrite, but they