RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-12 Thread Barton Lewis
Thank you, Mary. I did want to update my situation because I wouldn’t want people to think it was the software, when it was me. Barton From: Mary Fowler Leek [mailto:ml...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:09 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-12 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
Hi Barton, So happy you’ve gotten things sorted out and have found the additional work you thought you might have lost. Thank you for letting everyone know. It is frightening to think something isn’t working as it should, but in my case, it is usually my error, rather than the program. J

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread Barton Lewis
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted Barton, From Legacy, you might check the Help system (Help tab Help Index icon, then search for restore). The Help system contains information for restoring a backed up family file without looking for an article via the Internet. Since you

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread BARTON LEWIS
That's probably good advice, Cathy (learning how to restore backups as soon as you purchase software), but let's say you don't need to use that information until a year down the road, or longer.  It would be nice if Legacy's Help feature on how to perform this very important operation worked. 

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch
...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:55 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: Legacy legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted That's probably good advice, Cathy (learning how to restore backups as soon as you purchase software), but let's say

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread Mary Fowler Leek
[mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:55 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: Legacy Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted That's probably good advice, Cathy (learning how to restore backups as soon as you purchase software), but let's say you don't need to use

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread Robert57P_gmail
One possibility is you may have accidentally deleted a person or a marriage or a relationship and this could have caused an orphan branch in your database. If people are missing from the Family, Pedigree, or Descendant tabs, the first place I would look is the INDEX tab to see if they are truly

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread BARTON LEWIS
Thanks for your comments, Bob.  That's the first thing I did - went to the Index, and saw that all these people were gone.  I have been adding the descendants of this ancestor's children for the past 3 months, and everything has been going smoothly.  Then poof, they all disappear.  As I posted

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-11 Thread Barton Lewis
PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted Barton, I don’t know which version of windows you use but for windows 7, from your desktop you could click on Start in the lower left hand corner, then in the search box (where it says search programs and files

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-10 Thread Cathy Pinner
Well this is a lesson on learning where and how both databases and backups are saved - and you can choose the location for both. I'm sorry, I can't imagine using any program without learning that in the first couple of days AND how to restore any backup. I trust you know that now. I suspect the

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data averted

2015-08-10 Thread Carolyn
Hi Barton, Glad you found your backup I am in a similar position right now and still sweating! Click the LEGACY HOME button (the first on left) and look in the top right hand corner for Statistics, it will list number of people, families, and sources for you. Carolyn Legacy User Group

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Alan Pereira
mind and you know my opinion. Alan From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 23 September 2011 21:05 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Alan, Whilst I too may have reservations about disclosing information about living persons, I

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Ron Ferguson
in the exemption which I quoted. Ron Ferguson http://www.ferguson.co.uk/ From: Alan Pereira Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:10 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data Ron, I too have looked in detail at the Data Protection Act and was for some part of my IT career

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Alan Pereira
@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 24 September 2011 11:07 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Sorry, Alan, but I beg to disagree. As a consultant, I also was involved in registrations under the Data Protection Act since it was first enacted in the early-mid 1980s, until I

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Ron Ferguson
@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data Ron please look at Extract from http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_the_public/the_acts.aspx The Act works in two ways. Firstly, it helps to protect your interests by obliging organisations to manage the information they hold in a proper way. It states

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/09/24 18:07, Ron Ferguson wrote: I take it that if you feel that you need to comply with the Act you have registered you database with the authorities. So this is why the jobsworths working for local and national authorities can not give a straight answer when it comes to what is and

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Tim Rosenlof
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data Ron please look at Extract from http://www.ico.gov.uk/for_the_public/the_acts.aspx The Act works in two ways. Firstly, it helps to protect your interests by obliging organisations to manage the information

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Sherry/Support
This is in a sense on-topic because Alan has refused to send us his database so we can work with him on his issues. I think this is an important issue if we're to work with customers in the EEA area who are bound by these laws. It's unfortunate that there are cases when only having the database

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-24 Thread Tim Rosenlof
On 9/24/2011 11:45 AM, Sherry/Support wrote: This is in a sense on-topic OK.. Accept my apology. I will say NO more. Sherry, you can feel safe now, I am going into lurk mode. I will continue to post to the lfstest group.. Lurk mode On... Asking no pity, just a remark If you wish to speak

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-23 Thread Paula Ryburn
Aha! Thx for that clarification, Dennis.  --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 4:59:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:22:36 -0700, Sherry

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Syble Glasscock
: Cline/Klein, Daniel, Newton, Witherspoon, Perryman, Gilbreath, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, Wheat From: Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data On 9

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I have had events dissapear when using that link. Alan Pereira From: Syble Glasscock [mailto:syble_...@yahoo.com] Sent: 22 September 2011 13:25 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
Syble, do you use the Legacy - nFS (New Family Search Interface)? as I have had events dissapear when using that link. Alan Pereira I have noticed that when the nFS interface is in use that most edits on my database do not stick. I asked Support (twice) under what conditions that would happen,

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread cranberryfrog
MessageAlan, Does that mean you can’t share your file with ANYONE? That goes completely against how genealogy works! We would be nowhere if we couldn’t share info! michele From: Alan Pereira Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:34 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
From: Syble Glasscock syble_...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 7:24:51 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Thanks, I'd looked there, but had just overlooked Death Date,  I use that Detailed Search quite often, but never

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
: [LegacyUG] loss of data Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface that life events disappear as well as giving messages about finding Nulls. All has gone quiet from the Support team

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
As I wrote before, we need the full original file A gedcom changes things around too much when reimported into the Family File and would not be at all helpful for this issue. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Alan Pereira

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread cranberryfrog
MessageI am just saying, maybe there is an exception to the rule. michele From: Alan Pereira Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:03 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data Michele, would you knowingly break a law that, in part, has been put in place

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/09/22 15:34, Alan Pereira wrote: All has gone quiet from the Support team on this since I rejected their request for a copy of my Legacy database on the grounds it would break European and UK Data Protection Law. That's a very selfish attitude to take. You've got the problem, help

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Syble Glasscock
@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data Carl, I too raised a ticket on this subject and I think the developers are working on finding out when running check / repair after using the Interface that life events disappear as well as giving messages

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
2011 16:50 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Carl, No I've not used the Family Search interface from Legacy, but I do use the familysearch.org website with a Legacy file open, and very likely I did on this research occasion, I was hoping someone had a tree

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread James Cook
Alan said he does not want to share private information due to legal and personal reasons, but would be willing to create a stripped down database that can recreate the problem that only contains information he'd be willing to share. Legacy has stated twice in this thread that would not be good

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
It's critical that we get the full original file in order to determine what's going on with the message, preferably before running check/repair to see where the nulls are before that process is run. A gedcom or part of the file will not be helpful at all. Ken *can* fix the file if we have

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Even if he can reproduce the problem with his pared down database?  --Paula in Texas - Original Message From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: br...@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 9:38:32 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Larry McCumber
From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Cc: br...@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thu, September 22, 2011 9:38:32 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data As I wrote before, we need the full original file A gedcom changes things around too much

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314 and null values... Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Carl Cox ct...@centurytel.net wrote: snip Sherry, I don't know if my problem is the same as reported by Alan,

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
It's a database issue and most likely will not happen on the Sample file. If it happens with a pared down version of his file, we can fix that, but that would not guarantee that there still wouldn't be a problem with the part he didn't send us Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
Fix his database. I'm talking about a null error and it's my understanding that was resolved. I worked on one a couple weeks ago and was not able to find where the null was, but the programmers have a tool that can locate and fix it quickly. But if the issue with nulls and nFS wasn't

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Pereira
/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: 22 September 2011 22:21 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314 and null values... Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Sherry/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data The issue wasn't about data not sticking but about Error 3265 and 3314 and null values... Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
I suspect that Carl should contact Support and work with one of the techs on his issue, if he hasn't already. This isn't something we can resolve by a long discussion on the list. The whole thread has gotten very convoluted. I twice asked support for a comment on how the database handled

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-22 Thread Carl Cox
Can you dig up your ticket ? I will give you the web page to check the status. I can't see any way to find my ticket number. It has been too long, about 3 months I think. Perhaps I could scan the list, if that option is available. Carl Legacy User Group guidelines:

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Ron Ferguson
Syble, Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair and compact Family File? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Syble Glasscock Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] loss of data I am using Legacy Deluxe, build date: 2 Aug

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Syble Glasscock
, Lindsey,  Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, Wheat From: Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Syble,   Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair

RE: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Mark Lang
@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 9:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Syble, Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair and compact Family File? Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Syble Glasscock mailto:syble_

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Syble Glasscock
@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 9:37 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data   Syble,   Have you tried a File MaintenanceCheck Repair and compact Family File?   Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/     From:Syble Glasscock Sent:Thursday

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Jerry
, Gilbreath, Lindsey, Brown, Foote, Curry, Fleming, Glasscock, Edwards, Waters, Wheat/ *From:* Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data Syble

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Sherry/Support
The recent document list is the list of files at the bottom of the menu that comes up when you click on File... It's a standard Windows list, found in most programs under the File menu. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Syble Glasscock

Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data

2011-09-21 Thread Kirsten Bowman
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] loss of data When I go to FileExit, Legacy closes. I just went to the Help file and searched for Recent Document List, and didn't find anything. Thanks, Syble From: Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com