Re: Printing
As I recall, with redhat( 7.2 ?), out of the box, there was a big warning in printcap to make no changes in the printcap file, since it was generated fresh every time something started up, I think the system or the printing daemon. I think that the configuration program ran automatically. You weren't given a choice about it. I had to manually disable the thing. That is the sort of messing around I just won't tolerate. It makes a linux distro incompatible with every other version of linux. It makes offering good, generic advice impossible. It makes life miserable for newbies. It frustrates experienced users, who are asked yet again to master some obscure but crucial details of an important but difficult subsystem like printing, one that they thought they had under control. Just one reason why I stopped using Redhat. Joel On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:44:56PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/13/03 16:38, Joel Hammer wrote: Be careful. Some of the more advanced printing programs like to overwrite your manual printcap file from time to time. Redhat would do that, as I recall. No it didn't, unless of course you ran redhat-print-config. Of course if you're running redhat-print-config, it has to overwrite your printcap or there'd be no point in running it. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:40pm up 29 days, 19:21, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Complaint against SCO
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/6/32819/51827 One submission to Michigan's AG: The SCO Group 355 South 520 West Suite 100 Lindon, Utah 84042 USA Phone: 801-765-4999 Fax: 801-852-9088 http://www.sco.com/ The SCO Group has been engaging in legal threats, both electronically and in hard-copy, to further their ability to extort money from consumers and companies in Michigan and throughout the world. By making unsupported and faulty claims of Intellectual Property rights in the Linux Operating System, The SCO Group has instilled fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the industry, and has been offering licenses to use Linux for $699 per processor in computer servers. This license has no apparent or reputed value per se, except to secure that SCO will not bring frivolous lawsuits against the purchasing company for using Linux. They will not come forward with any real proof of their claims. It is, however, very beneficial to the SCO Group to let the cloud of their allegations cause uncertainty in the marketplace for the chief competitor to their software products: Linux. The attempted extortion has been valued in the field above at approximately $700,000 using an estimation of 1,000 server installations at $699 per server processor, which is actually a very low estimate for Michigan, and does not include Workstations, for which SCO is attempting to charge $199 per seat. The price for each server processor doubles if not purchased by October 15th. The following are links to information regarding these actions. As appalling as it is, one good list of pertinant articles are at SCO's web site: http://www.sco.com/company/news/ Other pertinent information, including lawsuits by other companies being disrupted by this misbehavior, follow: http://www.sco.com/scosource/ http://lamlaw.com/ http://lwn.net/Articles/43307/ http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/030805/linux_cloud_1.html http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/sco_redhat.html http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1210100,00.asp I have attempted to give my feedback to the SCO Group, since my company was a partner vendor for them until this behavior started occurring. They have proven unresponsive. Primarily this behavior needs to stop. Not only are there many who SCO would change thousands of dollars, but many in Michigan which could not afford either the licensing nor lawsuits, such as my small business. Furthermore, the uncertainty created by these actions hinders mine and every other business who makes money off of Linux-related services. Ideally, the executives of SCO would be tried and sent to prison for extortion, overbilling, and several other fraudulent crimes. This, I believe, is the only way to send the message that companies cannot hide behind the guise Intellectual Property to enable criminal activity. Thank you for your assistance. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:36:02 -0400 - Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
the following
Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
I use the following to kill runaways. Can be set to let a heavy app alone by
increasing the loadtot and sleep time.
!/usr/bin/perl
sleep(5);
$killcomm = 'kill -9';
# 0.00 to 100.00
$loadtot = '50.00';
$exec = `ps ax -o \'pcpu pid\'`;
for $upid (split(/\n/, $exec)){
chomp($upid);
$upid =~ s/^\s+|\s+$//g;
$upid =~ s/\s+/\|/g;
($ucpu, $pid) = split(/\|/, $upid);
$pid =~ s/^\s+|\s+$//g;
if($ucpu $loadtot){
if($ARGV[0] ne '-c'){system($killcomm $pid);}else {system($killcomm
$pid);}
}
else {$nerror = 1;}
}
if($nerror $ARGV[0] ne '-c'){exit(1);}
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:36:02 -0400 - Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
the following
Re: Cron idiosyncrasy
Opera, when run on a remote X client, often hangs this thang called
motifwrapper, which then consumes 99% of the CPU. This annoys all three
users on this box. I think it has to do with flash, and it was supposed
to have been fixed but it ain't in my hands so anyway:
Running top | grep operamotifwrap is a great way to find these processes and
kill them. (Only high consumption processes get listed with top, in my
experience.)
This script runs fine when invoked from the command line:
#!/bin/bash
for i in `/usr/bin/top -n1 | grep operamotifwrap | sed s/ .*//`
do
kill -9 $i
done
However, there is a problem using top with cron, so I thought I would
mention it. When this script is called with cron, this error appears:
tcgetattr() (undefined or something)
This is fixed by including the -b flag, as suggested in the man page for
top.
Like so:
for i in `/usr/bin/top -n1 -b | grep operamotifwrap | sed s/ .*//`
Happy scripting.
Joel
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Re: and now: quota
Quoth Keith Morse: man repquota is not explaining all the columns. An example. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# repquota / *** Report for user quotas on device /dev/sda2 Block grace time: 24:00; Inode grace time: 00:00 Block limitsFile limits Userusedsofthard graceused soft hard grace -- root -- 1750012 0 0 107558 0 0 bin -- 11960 0 0 1417 0 0 daemon-- 8 0 0 3 0 0 vcsa -- 12 0 0129 0 0 lp-- 188 0 0 8 0 0 rpm -- 27176 0 0 95 0 0 ntp -- 8 0 0 2 0 0 kgmorse +- 463740 153600 204800 1476 0 0 [snippage] What is the second column telling me? first plus is over user limit? the second (-) is the group? Consider the second column shorthand for columns 3-10. + in the first column says kgmorse has exceed block limits -- you naughty boy. + in the second column, if present, indicates being over limit on file limits. Kurt -- Help stamp out and abolish redundancy. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: SCO Sucks
Matthew Carpenter wrote: Some ninnies will... Mark my words Not all cautious people are smart people, or even educated... And some smart people like to keep such a low profile that they will do whatever they are told by anyone in authority. I married one such. She graduated with honors (I can't spell cum laude) on her BS Oceanography degree, 4.0 gpa on her CS degree. Makes a living developing software. But if the IRS sent us a bill for $20,000.00 in taxes for last year she'd pay it without questioning it. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Updated Step
Bill Parker has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/security/pointers.html to incorporate the following: Updated ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printing
On 08/13/03 16:38, Joel Hammer wrote: Be careful. Some of the more advanced printing programs like to overwrite your manual printcap file from time to time. Redhat would do that, as I recall. No it didn't, unless of course you ran redhat-print-config. Of course if you're running redhat-print-config, it has to overwrite your printcap or there'd be no point in running it. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:40pm up 29 days, 19:21, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.14, 0.16 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best LAN browser for Linux?
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:45, Michael Hipp wrote: What is the best browser for SMB shares under Linux? Unfortunately, I'm looking for something comparable to 'Network Neighborhood' or 'My Network Places'. Haven't been particularly happy with using Konq or Nautilus for such (they're a look but don't touch browser)? Any recommendations appreciated, Michael I've used Gnomba, Xsmbrowser and Linneighborhood. Linneighborhood and Xsmbrowser are both good. I like linneighborhood a bit better though. Either should work well. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: worms worms worms
You could try http://www.pcflank.com/scanner1.htm It lets you add the ports you want scanned. I still think programs like nmap are best. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: Michael Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burns MacDonald wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 19:04, Michael Hipp wrote: We do quite a bit of IT Security work. Shields Up is OK for what it is, given the parameters it has to work under - it's not bogus, but it is lightweight. The usefulness of a site like ShieldsUp is that it gives you the ability, from inside, to initiatate a test from outside, to see if that firewall you just put up is working. If there is a better such site available, I'd sure like to know about it. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Burns MacDonald wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 19:04, Michael Hipp wrote: We do quite a bit of IT Security work. Shields Up is OK for what it is, given the parameters it has to work under - it's not bogus, but it is lightweight. The usefulness of a site like ShieldsUp is that it gives you the ability, from inside, to initiatate a test from outside, to see if that firewall you just put up is working. If there is a better such site available, I'd sure like to know about it. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best LAN browser for Linux?
Quoth Tom Wilson: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:45, Michael Hipp wrote: What is the best browser for SMB shares under Linux? Unfortunately, I'm looking for something comparable to 'Network Neighborhood' or 'My Network Places'. Haven't been particularly happy with using Konq or Nautilus for such (they're a look but don't touch browser)? Any recommendations appreciated, Michael I've used Gnomba, Xsmbrowser and Linneighborhood. Linneighborhood and Xsmbrowser are both good. I like linneighborhood a bit better though. Either should work well. What about Komba? My boss uses it and likes it. Kurt -- The most difficult thing in the world is to know how to do a thing and to watch someone else do it wrong without comment. -- Theodore H. White ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: OTTrip to Maine
Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2003 9:15 pm, someone claiming to be Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Joel Hammer: C'est moi. Actually, the picture was badly composed. I should have piled up all three of the lobsters that I ate. Yes, this was excessive, but, c'est la vie. 3 lobsters are no more excessive than 1/2 a chocolate cake or a liter of single malt scotch whiskey. Although you could probly still drive after 3 lobsters, or 1/2 a chocolate cake... There was a time I would have considered 1 liter half rations. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Joel Hammer wrote: Thanks for the scan. These ports I expected to be open, except for 1024 (kdm). I just wonder why ShieldsUp didn't detect these ports. It looks like I was inviting the world to log onto my X server. I have never found anyone doing this. It is password protected. I have to conclude that ShieldsUp is bogus. It's not bogus. Mr. Gibson is well respected and his site is widely used. Dunno why it didn't work properly on your system. I might guess that it misidentified your IP address, or perhaps the fact that the Internet has been only half working all day caused it to timeout. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Improved pager for man pages
Well, I couldn't leave well enuf alone. I got annoyed by my new and improved man pager, since the calling shell can't be used until the acroread session is closed. So, here is the better mouse trap. It needs two scripts, not one. First script is called Man man -t $1 /tmp/junk$$ [ -a /tmp/junk$$ ] || exit ps2pdf /tmp/junk$$ /tmp/$1 rm /tmp/junk$$ ReadMan $1 The second script is called ReadMan acroread /tmp/$1 rm /tmp/$1 To use it, just type: Man ping [or whatever] and voila. A nice part is that you can use the shell again, and if you want, open another man page with Man rm [or whatever]. The second man page is opened up in the same instance of acroread, making things very convenient. Now, this would be nicer if someone could show me how to make this into just one script. A here document might be the way to go, but I have never figured those out. Joel On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 09:38:09PM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote: Don't know why, but with lindows 4 I have lost my usual vi like button functionality with the man pager. Oh well. So, here is a pager which is greatly improved. This allows searching as well, which wouldn't work with just the postscript output. Of course, this only runs in a GUI, but, that's where I spend most of my time these days, anyway. #!/bin/sh man -t $1 /tmp/junk$$ ps2pdf /tmp/junk$$ /tmp/junkpdf$$ acroread /tmp/junkpdf$$ rm /tmp/junk$$ rm /tmp/junkpdf$$ Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: FS statistics on 2.6.0-test2
On 08/08/03 10:44, Matthew Carpenter wrote: Would you like to provide said information? I know you love XFS, but could you do an unbiased comparison for us? Sorry, i don't have the time, or the experience with Reiser. On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 06:58:21 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be far more telling would be a similar test on 2.4.21, with detailed information on the test environment. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 10:45am up 24 days, 13:27, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.09, 0.09 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More on the SCO pooch-screwing
IBM:http://lwn.net/Articles/43307/ RedHat: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/030805/linux_cloud_1.html SuSE: http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/sco_redhat.html Novell: http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,4248,1210100,00.asp On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 14:32:48 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://lamlaw.com/ Images of all the GhostBusters come to mind, each nailing Xul with their own nuclear plasma beam and dragging him down to the dregs where he belongs... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 699 - 1399
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This was sent to me by a friend at work... That oughta give you nightmares. Kurt -- Sooner or later you must pay for your sins. (Those who have already paid may disregard this fortune). ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samba with no passwords
Matthew Carpenter wrote: chmod 4755 `which smbmnt` In order to do the mounting operation, smbmnt needs to be suid root. Also, smbumount if you are using that one... Generally suid is considered to be A Bad Thing. Is this a case where it is a safe and advisable thing to do? Or just a last ditch solution and pray that it doesn't blow up? Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
LinuxWorld, a la Microsoft
Look carefully at this picture of the Microsoft booth at LinuxWorld and you'll see that the Masked Penguin struck again... http://people.debian.org/~misha/lwce03/dscn0009.jpg Kurt -- If it's Tuesday, this must be someone else's fortune. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Toshiba 2010 Install Help
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Shane Broomhall (CCI Aust) wrote: Hi All, I have a new Toshiba 2010 Laptop, it has a USB Foppy and It can see USB CDRom when Windows XP is running. That is great for Windows but I want to put Linux on it. I have had problems with getting it to boot from the USB Floppy, even though the bios tells me it can boot from floppy. It has the ability to boot from a PXE environment, does anyone know if there is some way possible of installing Linux using PXE ?? Any help or advise on this will be extremely welcome. This is very distro specific stuff. Which distro are you trying to load? Most do support network installs, but that is highly variable. I think Redhat9 can handle installing from a USB CDROM drive, but i've never tried (i don't own one). BTW, can you trim your sig a bit? I don't think we need your entire resume :) in your sig. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
Our IEEE chapter at school is going to setup a linux cluster. Does anyone have any experience/advice/interesting opinions about doing so? I am wondering if there is a good distro or any other wonderfulnes that will make the thing fun and last the semester. -- Alma Mandrake and Knoppix both have cluster distros. Randy Donohoe ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: M$
FITTING ROFLMAO!!! pun intended I presume. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Myles Green Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:10 PM To: Linux Users Subject: Re: M$ On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 16:04, Collins Richey wrote: Got this in a signature on another group. ROTFLMAO! How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb ? Answer : None, they just declare darkness a new standard. Seems like that would work for SCO, too. Considering where they've got their heads, it seems fitting enough to me. -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. How does M$ do it? (0805_030) Positioned right by the toilets again! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
On 08/09/03 14:10, Alma J Wetzker wrote: My personal interest is distributed applications, so a virtual machine running a database would be good. But we don't have the disk space to make it worthwhile. I hope to use more than one configuration before we are done. Well, there are alot of different types of databases out there, some with excellent clustering support, some without. Oracle DB2 have pretty decent distributed processing support. The amount of diskspace isn't really an issue unless you plan to start dumping large chunks of data into the DB. Otherwise, a database will remain as small as you want it to. Most of my paid work has been Oracle where I end up using triggers and stuff to accomplish what I need to get done. I am trying to figure out MySQL right now and perhaps PostgreSQL next year. Most of my test data is quite large as I need to test MANY configurations and options. I've used mysql, postgresql oracle, but only oracle in a cluster. Oracle's documentation is prolly your best bet in getting that going. I'm not sure if its easily possible to setup mysql or postgresql in a distributed environment. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:25pm up 25 days, 19:07, 1 user, load average: 2.31, 0.69, 0.24 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Recomendation
Mandrake has never been an issue with people I have spoken with. I do remember a security alert about file system access though. I am not 100% sure - maybe check out their web site. Regards, Wil McGilvery Manager Lynch Digital Media Inc 416-744-7949 416-716-3964 (cell) 1-866-314-4678 416-744-0406 FAX www.LynchDigital.com -Original Message- From: Shawn Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately he is on dial-up so he's looking at what is available retail. I will forward your suggestion though On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:06:02 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed: I'd love to see how a newbie evaluated Lycoris' offerings, insofar as it is aimed at such. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: SCO Sucks
Kurt Wall wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html A desktop license is only $199; single CPU servers are $699. After October 15th, prices go up, so act now! Fucking bastards. Kurt Of course. If you wait until October you will probably find that there is no merit to the case and you won't have to pay a thing. Am I the only one who recalls the company that sold SCO the right to license UNIX claims they did *not* sell them the intellectual property rights? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: System Drag - Solved
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 22:09, Ian Stephen wrote: Right now with Evolution, Mozilla, Konqueror, Emacs, Konsole and OpenOffice.org all open under KDE top shows CPU 96% idle. That top output you sent had CPU 0.0% idle. It is idle until you start loading a page. Using the Gnome System Monitor you can watch the cpu resources get sucked up as you perform each action in the browser. I also cleared the cache and tried exactly the same thing with Mozilla. I then cleared the cache again and tried the same thing again with Konqueror. The difference was very significant. Don't get me wrong, Konqueror has always been my browser of choice in the past. The version I have now was installed as part of the Redhat 8.0 bundled install (and subsequent RHN updates/patches). From what I am hearing that it is quite possible that the Redhat 8.0 configuration is suspect. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: transparency - the real thing
Not surprising since you use Red Hat. I wouldn't use RH's KDE either :) On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:22:31 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and aterm. I think konsole can do it too, but since i don't have KDE anywhere, i can't test it. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO scares me...
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 10 Aug 2003 11:07:43 -0400 In the September issue of WIRED, Darl McBride in the HOT SEAT says... WIRED: Give me the summary brief. McBride: The world is moving to a Unix operating environment, and SCO owns the IP rights to it, When you snap off a branch from the Unix tree and try to graft it onto the Linux tree, that's out-of-bounds. It's time to step up and claim the ownership rights that are rightly ours. Holyshit. I know they make claim to their unix code in linux but what is the REAL attitude towards Linux. Is Linux seen as a competitor to Unix (SCO) and as such they want it also? I tell ya' Darl could have chosen better words than what he did. I wonder if Darl is ever curious about life outside his head? Does he even know that an alternative reality exists? My understanding is that SCO's biggest competitor is M$. M$'s biggest problem is linux. So SCO makes a deal with M$ to get rid of linux. Does Darl really believe that he can litigate himself a piece of the linux revenue stream in perpetuity, just because he wants to? -- Alma Don't worry Jerry, we don't hold you resposible for deranged, pathetic individuals. No matter what their name. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Complaint against SCO
Quoth Matthew Carpenter: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/6/32819/51827 One submission to Michigan's AG: I've sent a similar complaint to Pennsylvania's Attorney General and to the DOJ in Washington. Kurt -- While money can't buy happiness, it certainly lets you choose your own form of misery. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: time waster, but also a question
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:53:45 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth Roger Oberholtzer: In mozilla, does any one hear the pops? http://www.urban75.com/Mag/bubble.html Nope. Really strange, a lot of variation yes/no. Apparently even some folks who have shockwave can't hear the pops! Time to wave some chicken bones. I'm not sure but I think it would default to esd normally as it's gtk based... perhaps the difference is people are or are not running esd or access to /dev/dsp is being denied by other processes they have running. I have been trying to get mozilla and my other apps to use my artsd by launching them all with artsdsp it has helped enormously because I don't have apps fighting for the sound device. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: For some reason I would like to say XFCE rocks.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:36:13 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xfce4 rc2 is pretty fabulous. They have a script that downloads, compiles and installs is for you. I've been using it (piror to rc2) for months - rock solid for what I need. The only drawback is no session manager yet. Since I don't leave my desktop machine booted 24x7, it's a pain to restart everything on the appropriate desktop. OTH, there's no reason I couldn't downgrade to XFCE3 since that met my needs also. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2.6.0 kernel compile doc
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Aaron Grewell wrote: Is your /etc/modules.conf correct with the proper aliases, etc? some mod names have changed. I just modprobe the ones I want anyway via a script. Yea, the entries in modules.conf are correct, as they work just fine for 2.4.21. modprobing via a script will work, but that sounds like one hell of a hack. Is this something that is known to be broken in 2.6.x? Wait, didn't they switch to a different file? I think the new kernel uses /etc/modprobe.conf, and a slightly different format to boot. IIRC last time I lived dangerously (2.5.5x) I had to basically recreate the whole thing because the included conversion script didn't work for me. Hopefully it's gotten better since then. I think i've heard that too, but i can't find any doumentation on the format for modprobe.conf, so i don't know where to begin in creating it. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SCO Sucks
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html A desktop license is only $199; single CPU servers are $699. After October 15th, prices go up, so act now! Fucking bastards. Kurt -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
FS statistics on 2.6.0-test2
Interesting article and lots of critiques at http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/715 The following extract shows the basic differences. This is German number notation with commas and periods reversed. reiser4 reiserfs ext3 XFS JFS copy 33.39,34% 39.55,32% 39.42,25% 43.50,32% 48.15,20% sync1.54,00% 3.15,10% 9.05,00%2.08,10%3.05,10% recopy1 31.09,34% 75.15,13% 79.96, 9% 102.37,12% 108.39, 5% recopy2 33.15,33% 77.62,13% 98.84, 7% 108.00,12% 114.96, 5% sync 2.89, 3% 3.84, 1% 8.15, 0% 2.40, 2% 3.86, 0% du2.05,42% 2.46,21% 3.31,11% 3.73,32% 2.42,17% delete7.41,52% 5.22,58% 3.71,39% 8.75,56% 15.33, 7% tar 52.25,25% 90.83,12% 74.93,13% 157.61, 7% 135.86, 6% sync 6.77, 2% 4.19, 3% 1.67, 1% 0.95, 1% 38.18, 0% overall 171.28,30% 302.53,16% 319.71,11% 429.79,13% 470.88, 6% In general, reiser4 looks to be a real winner (when it's out of development, of course), and my favorite EXT3 and everyone else's favorite XFS are among the slowest. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: odd email. Maybe OT, but not sure.
On 9 Aug 2003, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone been getting an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where your.domain is your domain)? It has text like this: Hello there, I would like to inform you about important information regarding your email address. This email address will be expiring. Please read attachment for details. --- Best regards, Administrator maomnron It message also contains a zip attachment (message.zip) that contains an html doc (message.html) that is really a multipart doc with an encoded binary executable called foo.exe and some html code to run foo.exe Some new virus? Or other nonsense? I cannot exercise it as we don't do windows. (OK. I did clean the front windows this morning, but even there the point is that I do not want to see windows...) The attachment contains a virus called mimail (if I rmemeber correctly). The company I worked for was hit very hard about a week ago. The entire mail system slowed while the IT folks tried to find all the infected systems. The virus scanners all flag this now. -- Gerry The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne Chaucer ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
How to setup clusters
Our IEEE chapter at school is going to setup a linux cluster. Does anyone have any experience/advice/interesting opinions about doing so? I am wondering if there is a good distro or any other wonderfulnes that will make the thing fun and last the semester. -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: For some reason I would like to say XFCE rocks.
Quoth James McDonald: Um, I have been trying to lighten the load on my PIII 600MHz w/ 512MB RAM. So for starters I went back from KDM to XDM. From kwrite to nedit From OpenOffice 1.0.3 to OpenOffice 1.1 and From Mozilla to Thunderbird and Firebird But the best improvement came from moving from KDE to XFCE and finally the 2.6test2 kernel doesn't seem to have affected performance at all. I'm so pleased to be able to say I told you so. Except, of course, that I *didn't* told you so, but would have if you'd asked me. XFCE 3 does indeed blaze over against GNOME and KDE. For my money, the lost feechurs and eye canddy are a fair trade for better performance. Just my opinion, natcherly, worth whatcha paid for it. Kurt -- A witty saying proves nothing, but saying something pointless gets people's attention. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
On 08/08/03 15:04, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Our IEEE chapter at school is going to setup a linux cluster. Does anyone have any experience/advice/interesting opinions about doing so? I am wondering if there is a good distro or any other wonderfulnes that will make the thing fun and last the semester. What do you plan to use it for? 'clusters' have *ALOT* of different meanings and uses, and that is heavily dependent on how you set one up. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:25pm up 24 days, 18:07, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 22:49, David A. Bandel wrote: If SCO loses (likely), all the suckers that bought licenses (along with a whole slew of others) will sue SCO (SCO will, however, be out of business and broke long before their trial). We live in hope Aren't you glad you still don't work for that outfit, Kurt? In hindsight, 'tis a blessing! -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More on the SCO pooch-screwing, Government style
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/1_1/daily_news/21384-1.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
Can anyone name the bad penguin in this animation? http://www.opq.se/images/BadPenguin.gif -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Needs fsck options
On 08/05/03 08:44, Swapana Ghosh wrote: Hi I have two machines under the router at home. One has windows setup and another one is totally a linux box. Yesterday due to thunder my linux box X-Term has been corrupted, while i am trying to connect my Windows machine to the lunux box it is giving connection refused. So i need to do the fsck If any luck prefers. Can any one give me what are the options i will use for *fsck*... Depends on the filesystem. Although you normally shouldn't need any special options if you're running it manually on bootup. The manpage generally covers all the options too. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:35pm up 21 days, 19:17, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.24, 0.33 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Best LAN browser for Linux?
What is the best browser for SMB shares under Linux? Unfortunately, I'm looking for something comparable to 'Network Neighborhood' or 'My Network Places'. Haven't been particularly happy with using Konq or Nautilus for such (they're a look but don't touch browser)? Any recommendations appreciated, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT google fun
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 23:45, Burns MacDonald wrote: Sounds like something straight out of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or should be. Which I might add, I am reading yet again. --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samba with no passwords
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:38:34 -0400 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h This is still required to use smbmount... I'm not certain about smbfs and /etc/fstab... Did you try the password= attribute? Since most people don't do a blank password or a guest account, this may be a requirement... Yes. I've gotten used to smbclient now - transfer anything I need to my side of the connection. About the only thing I need this for is to burn cds. My older cdwriter package won't install on [EMAIL PROTECTED] WinXP, and I'm too cheap to buy a new one. Also, I still have Win98 on this machine, so I can always boot that up if I can't get to the files any other way. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT: time waster, but also a question
ronnie gauthier schrieb: On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 14:14:25 +0200 - Klaus-Peter Schrage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Re: OT: time waster, but also a question Right now, I can't tell you if there is any sound at all on my computer - last night I have been to a ZZTop concert in Hannover, standing 10 yards in front of the stage, and my ears are still ringing ... Klaus and did you inhale? definitely not - the ZZ Top tour's motto is Beerdrinkers and Hellraisers. Klaus ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] SCO: The Iraq Connection
From some of my friends back in Utah: http://www.xmission.com/~fozz/darlandsaddam.jpg Kurt -- If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss bank. -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:54:44 -0500 Ben Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] emitted these signals: I set up a Mosix one about 2 years ago for a trade show. Not a problem and I really liked it. Another vote for Mosix. My office workstation is currently a Mosix cluster. I got tired of my compiles bogging the CPU (made my MP3's skip), so I grabbed a couple of spare machines and lashed them all together with Mosix. Now when I run a compile it runs on the unloaded CPU's instead of the one with all my eye-candy on it. Who needs XFCE? I just add nodes! ;) Just make sure the other nodes are in the other room, otherwise it gets a bit loud. It will also keep you warm in winter. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samsung printers support Linux out of the box
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003, Michael Fakaro wrote: My old OKI printer finally died and I went looking for a new one and found a Samsung ML1750 c/w Linux drivers in the box. Brought it home and it was printing great in 5 minutes drivers installed no problem. I just felt it was important to mention because of Samsungs support of Linux. I know many printers run under Linux but at least these guys go the extra step, this is a really nice printer and I'm very pleased to be able to support a Linux friendly printer manufacturer. LexMark provided Linux support several years ago when I bought a Z53. Unfortunately LexMark also makes it difficult to use non-LexMark ink. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
The interesting thing is that this whole thing actually made the local public radio station with a story from National Public Radio (NPR). Of course, these sorts of public radio stories are always behind the curve but it described linux as being an operating system developed by a collective of internet-based developers, mentioned that SCO had purchased some rights to the Unix OS, that SCO had claimed that some as-yet-undisclosed portions of Unix code had been copied into linux and finally that SCO was now expecting linux users to pay a license fee. The story then went on to say that NPR reporters had contacted some developers of the linux code who then said that, if SCO would tell them which portions of the code had been so copied, that they would then rewrite these portions of offending code in about a day. I was driving my car and laughed so hard I nearly drove off the road. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sound in XFCE 4
Hi All, Does anyone know if sound is supported in XFCE 4 ? I can get my Flash plugin working (and singing, etc.) on Mozilla 1.4, but I can't seem to be able to find a place to specify and enable system event sounds. I know it can be rather irritating sometimes, but it's better that the default speaker on my laptop which beeps everytime mail comes in. Regards, Chong Yu Meng ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samba with no passwords
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:58:27 -0400 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/5/2003 11:52 AM, someone claiming to be Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:04:51 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:59:41 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:16:18 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins Richey wrote: Is there any way to cause the mount not to prompt for a passwd? Hint, I have no defined users and do not log in to the WinXP box. If you put the appropriate line in /etc/fstab with password=,user= then you can just do 'mount /mnt/samba'. (Or it may have to be user=guest). Thanks. It works with user=guest. OK, now to dig a little deeper. The set of directories (it varies) that I'm wanting to access appear to have no common high level directory(they are anchored on the WinXP desktop), so I need to do a separate mount for each. Short of putting a big list in fstab, is there any way to get a given directory mounted for general use upon demand, either by command or by root command and make the permissionssuch that normal users can manipulate it? After further experimentation This works as root (no passwd prompt, no errors of any sort) mount -t smbfs -o guest //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins But it does not work from normal user relying on fstab entry //name/Collins /mnt/smb-collins smbfs \ noauto,user,guest 0 0 I get mount //name/Collins cannot mount on /mnt/smb-collins: Operation not permitted smbmnt failed: 1 Any ideas? Don't you need a username=guest line in there somewhere? Check 'man smbmount' I've also tried that. The mount command works with either -o guest or -o user=guest,password= , but I've found no combination that will work in fstab. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. This is a down time for most companies. If they aren't planning on some serious revenue coming from it, many companies are skipping trade-shows altogether. NetScreen is taking to the road on a Semi with all their gear in the trailer for demos... HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. Must have recognized you :p Probably the sales guy new that his techno-weenie was inept enough that this uberhacker (who they could tell knew what he was doing) might do something that they couldn't undo... -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Just how does this this thing spread? I have a couple of windows boxes behind my linux firewall. I have almost all privileged ports blocked. Will that be enuf? Joel On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 01:32:28PM -0700, Gary Wilson wrote: If you are in an all-Linux place, you are damn lucky. We are being bombarded with the Backdoor and Blaster worms and anyone who hasn't gotten their Microsoft updates in the last two weeks is being blown away. It's an epidemic. My Libranet box is just fine. But its my job to make sure that all those Windows boxen keep humming. Don't know when I'll make it out from under this one. Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
transparency - the real thing
A coworker just got a sexy new Mac Powerbook, and had me drooling over how gorgeous the entire OSX UI is. But what really blew me away was the fact that OSX can do _real_ window transparency, like this: http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Showcase/screen_shots/03.28.CocoaNTerminal.jpg That means that every window can be transparent to whatever is behind it. Not just the (now) cheap hacks that we see with linux terms, where you get the background image, and nothing else. Or maybe someone can prove me wrong. Is there linux functionality that will give me true transparency? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:20pm up 21 days, 2 min, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.31, 0.33 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: System Drag
On 08/10/03 14:15, burns wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 11:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found that installing RH9 cured the problems I experienced with RH8, which were very similar to what you describe. IMHO, RH8 was like the typical RH x.0 release and RH9 behaves more like a RHx.1 or x.2 release. IOW, RH9~=RH8.2. I know that's probably not the answer you were looking for but it 'worked for me' ;o) That may be the final outcome, but I'd rather try to 'fix' my way out of the issue first. PS: Hi Myles :) maybe build your own kernel? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:15pm up 26 days, 16:56, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.33, 0.54 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Photoshop on Linux, love Disney
Involves Wine, but a big win for many... including some of my harvest fields. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1210083,00.asp ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: System Drag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 burns wrote: | On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 13:03, Andrew Mathews wrote: | | |I'd check to make sure up2date didn't leave any errant processes |running. I notice this happening when I have a bunch of kio_http |processes running, but that may be kde relevant only. What browser are |you using, have you logged out and back in, rebooted the system, and |checked what the top process is while this is happening? | | | Hi Andrew, I'm using Konqueror. I find Mozilla to be too klugey. | | I don't see anything unusual in TOP except a whole lot of Redhat GUI | clutter... and cannaserver, which I believe is a japanese language | module that I have been trying to remove from my configuration (without | a lot of success, apparently). There are also multiple kdeinit entries, | which have me wondering. | | TOP output follows: snip I'd definitely restart X with all the kdeinit processes. On Red Hat the easiest way to manage the services is with chkconfig. Try chkconfig --list | grep 5:on to see what's being run by default at runlevel 5 and turn off what you don't want with chkconfig --level 5 cannad off (or whatever service it's listed as). Use the opposite such as chkconfig --list | grep 5:off to see what's not being started automatically. Substitute the appropriate runlevel as needed, add a touch of garlic and simmer for 10 minutes. g - -- Andrew Mathews - - ~ 6:21pm up 1 day, 21:08, 7 users, load average: 1.47, 1.23, 1.13 - - They ought to make butt-flavored cat food. --Gallagher - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/NuNQidHQ0m/kEssRAsgBAJ9ht9PzbDEun1bwvmt1FYsm3kndbQCff8Vi SY9e9ySG2cupIy2jrwSaD7k= =n8Bu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: LinuxWorld, a la Microsoft
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:35, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: However, I haven't looked at the Microsoft logo often enough to know if this is usual. Look at the major Microsoft sign above the booth. Where the 's' meets the preceding 'o' it looks like there is a divot in the 'o', very like the shape of a penguin's beak. In fact, it makes the 's' look like a mask being worn by a penguin. That's their logo marketeers will spin a thousand complex theories as to the psychology of doing that, but it just makes the logo more distinctive and difficult to copy. For the same reason, many companies use custom fonts that are similar to, but never quite like, standard fonts. Or have I been drinking too many Black Butte Porters? I don't see any conspiracies, just masked penguins. That's entirely possible, I couldn't comment. BTW, Tom, just how *do* you get fish to sing in a hair salon? Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: SCO Sucks
Matthew Carpenter wrote: Any judge in their right mind will be able to see through this. - -- Oxymoron. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
I bet this sells about as well as Yugos! Prior to the war, the Yugo was a huge success. The war killed it. So, for SCO, this is their Boznia. -- ++···+ · Roger Oberholtzer · E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]· · OPQ Systems AB · WWW: http://www.opq.se/ · · Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 ·Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 · · 115 34 Stockholm · Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 · · Sweden · Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 · ++···+ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 00:25, Matthew Carpenter wrote: SNIP SuSE 8.2 pro comes with all types of clustering software. I believe there is even a scientific cluster software included, although it is not Beowolf. Also: http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/as/cluster/ Oracle offers a high-end clustering package, with the enterprise license starting at $20,000. They have a demo license, but it is only for 30 days. Most vendors offer heavily discounted educational-support licenses. -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On 08/13/03 16:04, Michael Hipp wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: Thanks for the scan. These ports I expected to be open, except for 1024 (kdm). I just wonder why ShieldsUp didn't detect these ports. It looks like I was inviting the world to log onto my X server. I have never found anyone doing this. It is password protected. I have to conclude that ShieldsUp is bogus. It's not bogus. Mr. Gibson is well respected and his site is widely used. Dunno why it didn't work properly on your system. I might guess that it misidentified your IP address, or perhaps the fact that the Internet has been only half working all day caused it to timeout. No, its definitely the website. Its never done a very reliable or thorough port scan. I've played with that site quite a few times over the past few years, and its never produced results that coincided with what nmap provided. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:15pm up 29 days, 18:56, 1 user, load average: 0.37, 0.16, 0.20 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printing
Quoth Ted Ozolins: On Slackware 8.1, I had printing (lpr/lprng) using a Canon BJC-210 working nicely. I did the upgrade to 9.0 and now I can not get it to work no matter how or what I do. I then decided to setup printing on another machine with a clean install of Slackware 9.0 and still no joy. If I send a jop to the printer, I get the usual prompt that its happening but nothing appears at the printer. If I issue lprm -a the print job is listed and removed (as it should) I have lp0 detected at boot and the bjc-210 is detected so that is not the problem (parport is loaded) I can cp somefile /dev/lp0 and it prints, but lpr somefile renders absalutely nothing. Looking at my printcap file, the line: :if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ does not look correct. Should this not point to: /etc/apsfilter/canonbub/apsfilterrc ??? On my 9.0 system, /etc/apsfilter/basedir is a symlink, to wit: $ ls -l /etc/apsfilter/basedir lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Jun 18 22:36 /etc/apsfilter/basedir - /usr/share/apsfilter/ # APS2_BEGIN:printer2 canonbub:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/canonbub/acct:\ :if=/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/canonbub/log:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :mx#0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/canonbub:\ :sh: # APS2_END Look for other lines /etc/printcap that aren't hashed out. I'm betting you'll find one that points to a non-existent printer. Better yet, post the whole shootin' match (/etc/printcap, that is) and we can debug it. Kurt -- I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the statues that are in all the other museums. -- Steven Wright ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT google fun
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:31:02 -0400 (EDT) http://www.google.com/search?q=speed+of+light+in+furlongs+per+fortnight The story goes that at NASA a management droid was briefing some senior engineers using a bewildering array of terms and units. The engineers were obviously unimpressed. Finally one of the senior engineers raised his hand and asked him to express the speed in furlongs per fortnight. furlongs per fortnight is a standard way to of saying cut the crap -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTTrip to Maine
On 08/12/03 15:24, Joel Hammer wrote: BTW, if you are hot and bored (Our ac is out right now here in Maryland), and have a cable connection, you might enjoy seeing a few pictures of Maine. We just got back from Maine after a weeks vacation there. The weather was lousy, just overcast. I posted some pictures for the family on my home server but anybody is welcome to view them. The rocky coast URL?? -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:25pm up 28 days, 18:06, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO Sucks
No, but I can say SuSE! Seems that SCO unloaded a lot of their Linux-friendly employees there. Darn nice of them, if you think about it :) On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 20:53:39 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I am, Burns. I would already have quit, though, once they started this nonsense. That said, they've effectively purged all of the Linux people from the company anyway. Now I think about it, SCO had to get rid of their Linux-friendly staff before doing this - can you say disgruntled ex-employees? Kurt -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Service Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
AvantGo
Evenin', list, Does anyone here know of an AvantGo alternative for Linux? Thanks, Kurt -- Do not sleep in a eucalyptus tree tonight. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld 2003!
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:02:44 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. This is a down time for most companies. If they aren't planning on some serious revenue coming from it, many companies are skipping trade-shows altogether. NetScreen is taking to the road on a Semi with all their gear in the trailer for demos... Google is currently more profitable than ever. Lack of revenue definitely isn't the reason why they didn't showup. I don't know what Netscreen is. HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. Must have recognized you :p Probably the sales guy new that his techno-weenie was inept enough that this uberhacker (who they could tell knew what he was doing) might do something that they couldn't undo... I dunno. They had the same reaction to my 'meddling' last year. I suspect that they just don't want anyone who isn't wearing a suit tie to touch their hardware. Their loss. There were quite a few other hardware vendors who were quite happy willing to let me poke around. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [OT] SCO: The Iraq Connection
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:39:26 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From some of my friends back in Utah: http://www.xmission.com/~fozz/darlandsaddam.jpg OK, I'll bite. Who's the non-Arab in the picture. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samsung printers support Linux out of the box
Well, since I am fairly certain they are selling printers for less than it costs them to make one, I can't complain. They are just trying to survive economically. People like me who don't do high volume printing appreciate having a cheap printer that works with linux. Joel On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 07:19:32PM -0400, Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Bill Campbell: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003, Michael Fakaro wrote: My old OKI printer finally died and I went looking for a new one and found a Samsung ML1750 c/w Linux drivers in the box. Brought it home and it was printing great in 5 minutes drivers installed no problem. I just felt it was important to mention because of Samsungs support of Linux. I know many printers run under Linux but at least these guys go the extra step, this is a really nice printer and I'm very pleased to be able to support a Linux friendly printer manufacturer. LexMark provided Linux support several years ago when I bought a Z53. Unfortunately LexMark also makes it difficult to use non-LexMark ink. Yes, they're DMCA lawsuit against the company that makes cheaper refill cartridges is a black mark - makes me wish I hadn't bought my Z53, Linux support notwithstanding. Kurt -- God is a comic playing to an audience that's afraid to laugh. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:25:44 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. That port is blocked, so I won't worry about updating anytime too soon. Joel On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 02:33:30PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/12/03 14:28, Joel Hammer wrote: Just how does this this thing spread? I have a couple of windows boxes behind my linux firewall. I have almost all privileged ports blocked. Will that be enuf? port 137, the RPC port. Of course keeping up with M$ security updates will help too. Not being even an XP lightweight - how does one find out whether ports are open or blocked on WinXP? -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Spam redux
I came in late to the spam discussion. Just let me add 2 things: - if you are really interested in spam fighting there are 2 e-mail lists I would recommend, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/ and for sys admins : [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] send subscribe spamtools e-mail addy - I got a mention in the newspaper about 3 months ago when I sent a copy of my spam statistics to the local computer columnist. I also got slashdotted a day later, with a mention in slashdot and a huge spike on my web accesses. Go here to see what it was all about. http://ajackson.org/spamcount.gif (like my plot? xmgrace on *nix.) -- --- | Alan K. Jackson| To see a World in a Grain of Sand | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, | | www.ajackson.org | Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand | | Houston, Texas | And Eternity in an hour. - Blake | --- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
ssh key pairs
Got a situation that driving me slightly batty. I cannot get a ssh key pairs to work in a particular situation. local host remote host either : rh 7.2 Cobalt RAQ3 ssh OpenSSH_3.4p1 ssh OpenSSH_3.4p1 or : rh9 ssh OpenSSH_3.5p1 both local hosts can successfully ssh by keypair to other hosts. but neither can ssh by keypair to the remote host above. i've got the local id_dsa.pub keys in the remotes .ssh/authorized_keys file. Permissions are (remote host): -rw-r--r--1 adminadmin1234 Aug 11 15:03 authorized_keys -rw---1 adminadmin 744 Aug 9 15:18 id_dsa -rw-r--r--1 adminadmin 617 Aug 9 15:18 id_dsa.pub -rw-rw-r--1 adminadmin 0 Aug 11 14:31 known_hosts sshd_config on the remote permits public key authentication: #PubkeyAuthentication yes I've also verified that the the entries in authorized_keys contain no superflous characters. the keys are one line. Would this be something funky with the cobalt raq? it's ssh install looks pretty much like what I'd see in a redhat box. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
LinuxWorld 2003!
Just got back from a full day at LinuxWorld in San Francisco. This was my 3rd LW, and in my opinion, this was the best of the bunch. I arrived a half hour before the floor opened at 10AM, and already the place was packed. IBM HP had the 2 'superbooths' to the right left of the main hall entrance. Together, they occupied nearly 25% of the total floor space. There was *ALOT* of swag this year, which was a pleasant change of pace from the past few years where it had been gradually decreasing in quantity. Novell had a fairly large booth where they were hawking their up coming linux offering big time. They made a great effort to reiterate that they have no intention of tinkering with Ximian, but instead pushed the fact that they plan to use Ximian's offerings to enhance their own. The Golden Penguin Bowl was mildly amusing, although just about everyone on the panel really wasn't all that famous, and Chris DiBona is becoming more more self-promotional in a teeth grinding way. Notably absent this year was Google. Granted they're not really selling anything that is Linux specific, but they were there last year, and were quite popular. I saw Maddog giving a talk in the IBM booth about how Linux helps global companies governments save money. This was the first time that i'd seen him in person, and he's quite a captivating speaker. The .org pavillion was ok, although smaller than last year. Gentoo was doing their thing, showing off uber-boxen running blazingly fast. HP was once again rude. I wanted to play with their dual Opteron box, and the sales drone scolded me for touching the hardware without permission. I guess i missed the point of a trade show, if you can't actually play with the products being offered. IBM had a bit of a toned down booth compared to last year's linux powered vending machines car. It was still well setup, with all of their HW product lines on display (including a fully functional z series). M$ was there, attempting to hawk their 'Unix Services for Windows', as well as some new stupid quasi-IDE that was noted to run on Windows, Solaris mac. What a bunch of idiots. And they were once again, well positioned in front of the restrooms. Oracle had a large booth that was a complete ghost town. Every time i walked by or through, there was almost no one in it. Oddly, they were giving free lunch to anyone who sat through a 10 minute demo, yet they still couldn't fill all the seats. Redhat's booth was scaled down a bit from last year, and didn't seem to be getting much foot traffic other than when they were giving out free hats (that were identical to last year's). Veritas was also a newcomer with a large new booth, although they didn't seem to understand what it was they were doing. Every single box there was running WinXP. O'Reilly had a significantly larger booth than the previous years. They were running a special, buy 2 books, get a 25th Anniversary t-shirt for free. The books were going like hotcakes. Xandros (Lindows competitor, with an updated Corel Linux) was giving away a full boxed set of their desktop distro to the first 1000 attendants. All day the line was very long. I got mine, which notably comes with a registered copy of WineX Crossover. Pictures are available here: http://netllama.linux-sxs.org/pix/lwce/ -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 4:30pm up 21 days, 19:12, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.30, 0.38 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCO's first licensee
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 13:23, Net Llama! wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Matthew Carpenter wrote: The unnamed Fortune 500 company is apparently the first to sign up for a SCO Unix intellectual property software license under a program started just last week. I doubt its Sun. They can smell the M$ puppetmaster in this, and they hate M$. I agree - that still leaves 499 others. I doubt that it is a vendor. It's more likely either a large System Integrator, like EDS, or a large non-IT company that is hedging it's enterprise infrastructure. Heck, perhaps it's Unisys? They seem to always be playing the MS proxy role. -- Burns MacDonald Ottawa Canada ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: [OT] worms worms worms
I sent the info on this worm to a friend whom I know to be running a mix of Linux and Windows at home. His response may be of interest to the list: Yep -- as near as I can tell, only my XP laptop is vulnerable. I downloaded the patch for it without problem (I think it was actually fairly safe since I have both a firewall and antivirus). The next part I saw was where the computers were going to attack MS ... my first thought can I skip the virus but still sign up to attack MS??? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Best LAN browser for Linux?
Michael Hipp wrote: What is the best browser for SMB shares under Linux? Unfortunately, I'm looking for something comparable to 'Network Neighborhood' or 'My Network Places'. Haven't been particularly happy with using Konq or Nautilus for such (they're a look but don't touch browser)? Any recommendations appreciated, Have a look at xfsamba, which is part of xfce3. It's a goody. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Samsung printers support Linux out of the box
I have been very happy with my lexmark z53. However, does lexmark even make this printer anymore? More importantly, is lexmark making its new printers linux friendly, that is, supplying drivers for them? Joel Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:19:28AM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2003, Michael Fakaro wrote: My old OKI printer finally died and I went looking for a new one and found a Samsung ML1750 c/w Linux drivers in the box. Brought it home and it was printing great in 5 minutes drivers installed no problem. I just felt it was important to mention because of Samsungs support of Linux. I know many printers run under Linux but at least these guys go the extra step, this is a really nice printer and I'm very pleased to be able to support a Linux friendly printer manufacturer. LexMark provided Linux support several years ago when I bought a Z53. Unfortunately LexMark also makes it difficult to use non-LexMark ink. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Samsung printers support Linux out of the box
My old OKI printer finally died and I went looking for a new one and found a Samsung ML1750 c/w Linux drivers in the box. Brought it home and it was printing great in 5 minutes drivers installed no problem. I just felt it was important to mention because of Samsungs support of Linux. I know many printers run under Linux but at least these guys go the extra step, this is a really nice printer and I'm very pleased to be able to support a Linux friendly printer manufacturer. Now I just have to register it so they know my main reason for purchasing it! Regards Mike F -- Michael Fakaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sound in XFCE 4
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Chong Yu Meng wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if sound is supported in XFCE 4 ? I can get my Flash plugin working (and singing, etc.) on Mozilla 1.4, but I can't seem to be able to find a place to specify and enable system event sounds. I know it can be rather irritating sometimes, but it's better that the default speaker on my laptop which beeps everytime mail comes in. AFAIK, there is no xfce specific sound daemon (yet) in XFCE4. You might want to inquire on the xfce list, just to be sure. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
It must be getting bad. Charter just send a mass mailing about the worm and specifically mention port 135. I run an NT box at home and since day two it has not an email client nor does RPC work, I disabled it to manual. I do get an event error at boot but NT does not need re-booting much so it really is not a bother. On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:59:01 -0500 - Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Re: worms worms worms Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:25:44 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not being even an XP lightweight - how does one find out whether ports are open or blocked on WinXP? Quickest way is to go to http://grc.com and run his Shields Up! test against your address. That will tell you for sure what is visible from the outside. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Precisely. On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:50:32 -0500 Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: IIRC, it's 135, the RPC port. It exploits a vulnerability on TCP port 135, used by DCOM RPC services. You should also block TCP ports 138, 445, 593, and UDP port 69 (TFTP). You should block *every* port that doesn't absolutely, positively have to be exposed to the Internet. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems * Network Service Appliances * Network Consulting, Integration Support * Web Integration and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: How to setup clusters
Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:03:34 -0700 On 08/08/03 20:38, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:26:25 -0700 On 08/08/03 15:04, Alma J Wetzker wrote: Our IEEE chapter at school is going to setup a linux cluster. Does anyone have any experience/advice/interesting opinions about doing so? I am wondering if there is a good distro or any other wonderfulnes that will make the thing fun and last the semester. What do you plan to use it for? 'clusters' have *ALOT* of different meanings and uses, and that is heavily dependent on how you set one up. We plan on using it to learn how to setup clusters. Let me rephrase. You're asking 'how do i setup a cluster'. I stated that there is no such thing as one type of cluster. Its as if you asked 'how do i create software?'. There's not a single type of software, or even a single programming language to write the software. Sorry Lonnie, I do know the difference but I really don't have a single type of cluster in mind. What I meant to ask is if anyone on the list has setup a cluster, if so, what type and what distribution was used? I would like to setup a cluster consisting of a single virtual machine as I think that can be the most flexible. As I am not the only person working on the project I can't be more specific for a few weeks. I am just trying to use personal resources in addition to google and other various search engines and 900 pages of documentation. My personal interest is distributed applications, so a virtual machine running a database would be good. But we don't have the disk space to make it worthwhile. I hope to use more than one configuration before we are done. Well, there are alot of different types of databases out there, some with excellent clustering support, some without. Oracle DB2 have pretty decent distributed processing support. The amount of diskspace isn't really an issue unless you plan to start dumping large chunks of data into the DB. Otherwise, a database will remain as small as you want it to. Most of my paid work has been Oracle where I end up using triggers and stuff to accomplish what I need to get done. I am trying to figure out MySQL right now and perhaps PostgreSQL next year. Most of my test data is quite large as I need to test MANY configurations and options. Like i already said, clusters are not a singular thing, like apache, or fortran programming. Its a very broad field, and you need to think about what part of it you're interested in persuing, as there isn't a single method that applies to everything. A cluster is just more than one physical computer working together to accomplish a single task. Be it data storage, numerical computation, graphic rendering, or something else altogether. Once you figure that out with a degree of specificity, then you can move towards determining how to set one up. Since I don't know, or care, which direction I am going with this, ANY help or direction from the list is valuable. (Especially questions like yours!) Thanks! -- Alma ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Stopping and deleting a print queue in cups
Sorry. I didn't know that one worked for cups. Thank you! Harry On Wed August 13 2003 10:26 am, Net Llama! wrote: lprm ? On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Harry Giles wrote: I messed up, and need to delete a rather large file in queue for a printer. What is the command for doing this when using cups? TIA Harry ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: For some reason I would like to say XFCE rocks.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:39:48 -0600 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 19:36:13 -0700 Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xfce4 rc2 is pretty fabulous. They have a script that downloads, compiles and installs is for you. I've been using it (piror to rc2) for months - rock solid for what I need. The only drawback is no session manager yet. Since I don't leave my desktop machine booted 24x7, it's a pain to restart everything on the appropriate desktop. OTH, there's no reason I couldn't downgrade to XFCE3 since that met my needs also. Session Mangler? I had nothing but problems with that bloody thing and it was on by default. If there's finally no SM (or at least not one that's on by default) I may take another look. My problem was everytime I upgraded XFCE, the $#@*% SM was on and folks soon had 100+ sessions of xconsole and xdaliclock running and wondered why things were so slow. Seems when you carry something over from the login screen (xdaliclock, xconsole), second login you have two, third login three, fourth login four, etc. SM == POS. The XFCE author didn't see it that way. Maybe he finally got bit. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. Nemesis Racing Team motto GPG key autoresponder: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 19:04, Michael Hipp wrote: It's not bogus. Mr. Gibson is well respected and his site is widely used. Dunno why it didn't work properly on your system. I might guess that it misidentified your IP address, or perhaps the fact that the Internet has been only half working all day caused it to timeout. We do quite a bit of IT Security work. Shields Up is OK for what it is, given the parameters it has to work under - it's not bogus, but it is lightweight. Our Penetration and Vulnerability Testers use a collection of expensive proprietary tools and custom-coded scripts. As I recall Saint used to be a good tool and was available for Linux, but I don't see an open-source version on their website any more - it's all commercial licensing. http://www.saintcorporation.com/products/saint_engine.html -- Burns MacDonald Ottawa Canada ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: AvantGo
I've used AvantGo on linux. I use Jpilot and used the syncmal plugin. But there is an alternative. It is called Plucker - www.plkr.org Kurt Wall wrote: Evenin', list, Does anyone here know of an AvantGo alternative for Linux? Thanks, Kurt = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
Kurt Wall wrote: Quoth Matthew Carpenter: IIRC, it's 135, the RPC port. It exploits a vulnerability on TCP port 135, used by DCOM RPC services. You should also block TCP ports 138, 445, 593, and UDP port 69 (TFTP). You should block *every* port that doesn't absolutely, positively have to be exposed to the Internet. Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: LinuxWorld, a la Microsoft
On 08/10/03 20:36, Kurt Wall wrote: Look carefully at this picture of the Microsoft booth at LinuxWorld and you'll see that the Masked Penguin struck again... http://people.debian.org/~misha/lwce03/dscn0009.jpg Penguin Computing's booth was directly opposite M$'s. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:00pm up 26 days, 23:41, 1 user, load average: 0.62, 0.49, 0.36 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
worms worms worms
If you are in an all-Linux place, you are damn lucky. We are being bombarded with the Backdoor and Blaster worms and anyone who hasn't gotten their Microsoft updates in the last two weeks is being blown away. It's an epidemic. My Libranet box is just fine. But its my job to make sure that all those Windows boxen keep humming. Don't know when I'll make it out from under this one. Gary __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: worms worms worms
IIRC, it's 135, the RPC port. On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:33:30 -0700 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: port 137, the RPC port. Of course keeping up with M$ security updates will help too. -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eisgr.com/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Procmail rule
Hi Thanks for your reply... First of all, does it make a difference? In general, it has no difference. But demand is from client...:-) So client does not want that his maill will be in the mail box as client-name@www.domain.com - he wants *To address* in his mail box will be always shown as client-name@domain.com .Secondly, you'd probably just do a sed filter like this: :0fw * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/' I set this rule under the ~user/.procmailrc file. But i am seeing that if i sent forcefully from user1@www.domain.com to user2@www.domain.com , then also From /To both the addresses are changing to domain.com . That means *To* checking , before the sed is being failed Thank. -Swapna __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printing
On 08/13/03 17:28, Joel Hammer wrote: As I recall, with redhat( 7.2 ?), out of the box, there was a big warning in printcap to make no changes in the printcap file, since it was generated fresh every time something started up, I think the system or the printing daemon. I think that the configuration program ran automatically. You weren't given a choice about it. I had to manually disable the thing. That is the sort of messing around I just won't tolerate. It makes a linux distro incompatible with every other version of linux. It makes offering good, generic advice impossible. It makes life miserable for newbies. It frustrates experienced users, who are asked yet again to master some obscure but crucial details of an important but difficult subsystem like printing, one that they thought they had under control. Just one reason why I stopped using Redhat. I never ran into anything like when using RH-7.2. THe *only* mention i see in the RH-7.2 release notes of anything remotely close to what you're describing is: The printconf-tui program can clear settings completely. For example: printconf-tui --Xclear Unless you've got a documented source for this behavior, please don't start FUD. Joel On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 04:44:56PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/13/03 16:38, Joel Hammer wrote: Be careful. Some of the more advanced printing programs like to overwrite your manual printcap file from time to time. Redhat would do that, as I recall. No it didn't, unless of course you ran redhat-print-config. Of course if you're running redhat-print-config, it has to overwrite your printcap or there'd be no point in running it. -- ~ L. Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo:http://netllama.ipfox.com 5:35pm up 29 days, 20:16, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printing
Joel Hammer wrote: Be careful. Some of the more advanced printing programs like to overwrite your manual printcap file from time to time. Redhat would do that, as I recall. Joel Thanks, I'll be keeping an eye on that (I've made copies of my printcap file as well as made notes on what I had to do). Slack seems to play well with manual settings. I've manually setup networking, XF86Config etc, and up to now all seems to work as it should. I guess this is one reason that I like playing with Slack. My other instalation (Gentoo) doesn't mess with things I've setup manually as well. Cheers... -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[OT] Geek Test
In case some of you haven't found it yet: http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 60.74951% - Extreme Geek Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTTrip to Maine
opps. hammershome.com Joel ceOn Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 03:29:51PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote: On 08/12/03 15:24, Joel Hammer wrote: BTW, if you are hot and bored (Our ac is out right now here in Maryland), and have a cable connection, you might enjoy seeing a few pictures of Maine. We just got back from Maine after a weeks vacation there. The weather was lousy, just overcast. I posted some pictures for the family on my home server but anybody is welcome to view them. The rocky coast URL?? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:25pm up 28 days, 18:06, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT Why not fire these guys?
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 4:29 pm, someone claiming to be Joel Hammer wrote: Here we go again. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A49575-2003Aug12?language=printer If IS people hired by businesses and govt got fired for these screwups, they might not use MS. I strongly doubt that any IS people will be fired because of this. (What does the MVA care about customer convenience?) Using MS seems to be a job guarantee. Certainly, in the dynamics of a corporation, what would it benefit the maverick who pushed for linux? Likely it would cost him his job. This is a strong incentive to keep using MS software. snip I'm curious why none of the media outlets are mentioning that Macintosh, Unix and linux PCs cannot be infected by this worm; or asked why the MVA has their PCs connected to the Internet, or why they haven't installed the latest security patches from Microsoft. Sheesh -- RedHat 8.0 Kernel 2.4.20-18.8, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 10:30pm up 50 days, 23:21, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.20, 0.18 Help! I'm addicted to Klickety! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: sco's lastest blathering
When you consider recent Supreme Court decisions, you realize that the law and the US constitution mean only what 5 justices think they mean, at the moment. Maybe Sandra Day will say, because of a compelling state interest, the GPL won't mean what it says it means for 25 more years, to give the rest of the world a chance to adjust to it, etc.. Joel LMFAO. Found the link on /. I don't even know what to say about this one because it is so far fetched. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11031 --Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
