Re: BtVS : Best Male

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Robin Szemeti wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:
>
> > I had bleached hair once and I looked gorgeous - mind I had pink hair once
> > as well ... :)
>
> another twenty years matey and you'll be posting :
> " i had hair once ... " :))
>

Another couple of weeks probably (he says picking hairs off the
keyboard) :)

/J\

Re: BtVS : Best Male

[will]

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: BtVS : Best Male

> Another couple of weeks probably (he says picking hairs off the
> keyboard) :)

Hairs on the keyboard are not desirable, and in the wrong circumstances can
get you fired...

Re: Beginners Guide

[Struan Donald]

* at 19/04 22:59 +0100 Robin Szemeti said:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:34:02AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Matthew Byng-Maddick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > Personally I don't mind funding the beeb, as long as the quality of
> > > > content they produce is high. I do object to funding random corporations
> > > > whose interests are to their shareholders...
> > > >
> 
> well don't you worry yourself unduly .. you don't fund then in any way 
> and up to this point in time at least the only shareholder is the BBC in
> all thes 'random corpoartations' .. basically its a dadge to allow the
> BBC to compete against the commercial stations. the 'random corporations'
> eg BBC resources limited recieve no licence payers money other than for
> services they sell to the BBC eg studio costs for a specific programme.
> that way they cant be accused of using public funded resources to compete
> against other production companies when bidding for work. in other words
>  its just another accounting trick :)

I read it as not wanting to fund the various commercial entities one
ends up funding in order to actual get a digital box. The idea of
putting any more money in the Murdoch empires coffers just for the
sake of getting News 24 and BBC Choice certainly doesn't appeal.

struan (who always seem to end up paying the licence despite watching
less tv than his flatmates)

Re: (Don't Laugh) Buying PGP

[Barbie]

From: "Jonathan Stowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I have a supsicion that SCO's 'VisionFS' is the same deal - or rather it
> is a re-engineering of SMB or CIFS or whatever they want to call it ...

If it's a re-engineering they did a pretty poor job. Another company I
worked for had headache after headache with VisionFS. Then we installed
Samba (well they.. I just looked on nodding in all the appropriate places
saying umm and ahh alot) and wondered why we hadn't done it earlier.

Barbie.

Re: BtVS : Best Male

[Philip Newton]

Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:

Hey, Robin -- remember the "reply to list" feature is on; "you wrote" is not
particularly clear :). (In this case, it's Jonathan Stowe, which is
significant.)

> > I had bleached hair once and I looked gorgeous - mind I had 
> > pink hair once as well ... :)
> 
> another twenty years matey and you'll be posting :
> " i had hair once ... " :))

>From what I remember of how jns looked, I'd give him more like two years :)

Cheers,
Philip
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The Perl Conference

[dcross - David Cross]

Mentioned this briefly last night...

Registration has opened for this year's Perl conference in San Diego.

Full details at .

Dave...

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Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-16 (Attempt 2)

[Simon Wistow]

Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
> > segwayed
> 
> I dont think so Simon ...

Neither did I. But i was tired. 

/me waves hands vaguely

Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

[pmh]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:06:10 -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:31:59PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > 
> > > Make them start producing Doctor Who again, while you're at it...
> > > 
> > 
> > If they do start doing Doctor Who again it will have a finite lifespan,
> > is he not near the maximum number or lives a timelord can regenerate?
> 
> Nah.  He's only up to his 8th incarnation.  he's got 13.  Also,
> depending on how you look at things, he may be a special case.

I remember an episode where Peter Davidson was going to "donate" (ie. under pressure) 
his remaining generations to a bunch of aliens who would all have died otherwise. 
Surely this can be stretched so that other timelords can be persuaded to donate their 
generations to the Doctor, in order to keep the series going when the actors get fed 
up/sacked/die.


> [note: this does not take the comic relief special as canon...]

With my scheme, that doesn't matter, unless you want any of those actors to play the 
Doctor in the future and you believe that he can't be incarnated the same way twice. 
:-)

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Template Toolkit and XPath notes

[Mark Fowler]

Have been uploaded to london.pm.org.  And by jove, with a ickle bit of
httpd.conf bashing they even render out okay.  Shame about the spelling
mistakes though.

http://london.pm.org/~mark/ttxpath/

Later.

Mark.

Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Robin Houston]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> 
> Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
> http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf

Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the
*opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one.

You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
arbitrary language :-)

 .robin.

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Re: BtVS : Best Male

[Paul Makepeace]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:02:18AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> 
> Hey, Robin -- remember the "reply to list" feature is on; "you wrote" is not
> particularly clear :). (In this case, it's Jonathan Stowe, which is
> significant.)

 Yes, please attribute.

Oh, and mail clients that thread properly/at all. We know who you are...

Paul

RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Robin Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:04 AM

> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> > 
> > Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
> > http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf
> 
> Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the
> *opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one.
> 
> You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
> were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
> arbitrary language :-)

Sounds like I should read Simon's paper then. That sounds much more like my
Parse::Perl::Approx idea.

Dave...

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Server Upgrade

[Robert Shiels]

http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg

is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not
PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s
so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase
slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch the order Alex?

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Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> >
> > Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
> > http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf
>
> Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the
> *opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one.
>
> You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
> were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
> arbitrary language :-)

Here be dragons.

Later.

Mark.

P.S. You might want to have a look at File::Remote (as this 'overrides'
open and changes it's meaning.)  Oh and
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Re: Server Upgrade

[Philip Newton]

Robert Shiels wrote:
> As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not PC133. I strongly expect
> the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s so either we
> need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase slower
> RAM.

Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able to
use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?

And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
(And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Cheers,
Philip
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Re: Server Upgrade

[Dean]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:29:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
> speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
> PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the memory
> doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
> (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
> doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

If you have a board capable of running at PC100 and you have a mix of 100
and 133 then it'll all run fine at 100.

If you have a board capable of running at PC133 and you have a mix of 100
and 133 it'll still run fine but only at 100. Lowest common as you'd
expect.

Dean
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Re: Server Upgrade

[Robert Shiels]

From: "Philip Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Er, do you mean "will not be able to use the PC133s" or "will not be able
to
> use the PC100s and we'll need to get even slower RAM"?
>
> And AFAIK, if it takes SDRAM at all, you can put in whatever you want; the
> speed is determined by min(mobo bus speed, memory spec speed). I've got
> PC133 memory in my Celeron board (66 MHz bus) and it works fine; the
memory
> doesn't seem to care that it's accessed more slowly than it's capable of.
> (And another bank has, I think, PC100 memory in it -- the mix-n-match
> doesn't seem to be deleterious, either.)

Well, that sounds encouraging. Lets stick with the current order then - I
didn't know you could mix-n-match the two types of RAM on the same board,
I'm still thrilled that with DIMMs you don't need to add them in matching
pairs :-)

Even if there is a problem, I'll volunteer to buy the PC133 chips for my
server at home.

/Robert

Re: Server Upgrade

[Robin Szemeti]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
> 
> is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are PC100 and not
> PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able to use the PC133s
> so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order to purchase
> slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch the order Alex?

umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even though I only
have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using faster memory
in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, its usually
faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

My feeling was by buying PC133 RAM it was something that would come in
useful in the futrure, where as PC100 will probably not be much use if I
upgraded my mobo.

Of course having said that it guarantees that your server will not accept
the PC133, in which case I'm sure you'll have no end of happy volunteers
(myself included) offering to swap it for similar PC100 units, so I
wouldn;t worry about it too much.

-- 
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So I installed Linux!

Re: Server Upgrade

[Jon Galliers]

I have a spare pc100 DIMM, 128Mb, CAS2. Could you use this.




Thanks
Jon

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RE: Server Upgrade

[Thomas Barrett]

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > http://se71.org/myimages/pm/picklist.jpg
> > 
> > is the picklist for our server. As expected, the DIMMs are 
> PC100 and not
> > PC133. I strongly expect the motherboard will not be able 
> to use the PC133s
> > so either we need to upgrade the mobo, or change the order 
> to purchase
> > slower RAM. Can you try and do this before dabs dispatch 
> the order Alex?
> 
> umm .. I recently obtained some new RAM and got PC133 even 
> though I only
> have a PC100 mobo and it works just fine. In general using 
> faster memory
> in a slower machine is not a problem,  but don't try it the other way
> around. The speed of memory is its minimum guaranteed speed, 
> its usually
> faster than what it says on the tin anyway.

>From http://www.directron.com/faqmemory.html
2. Can I mix PC -100 and PC-133 memory in the same system
If the system supports 100MHz memory, you can normally use
133MHz memory in it as well, and can even mix the two. However,
there would be no advantage gained as the 133MHz memory will only
run at the bus speed of 100MHz. Using the 133MHz memory will not
make the system more stable if it is being Over-clocked. Some
systems, though, will balk at the incorrect speed being reported by
the Serial Presence Detect program. We suggest using only the
memory specified by the system manufacturer, and cannot guaranty
that memory which is different than the manufacturer specifies will
be 100% compatible

HTH

TCB

RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:37 AM

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
> 
> > You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
> > were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
> > arbitrary language :-)
> 
> Here be dragons.

"You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
you mean, retardo!"

Or can you?

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RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Mark Fowler]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> Mark Fowler wrote on the 20th April:
>
> > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Robin Houston wrote:
> >
> > > You want to take arbitrary languages, and execute them as if they
> > > were Perl. I want to take Perl and execute it as if it were an
> > > arbitrary language :-)
> >
> > Here be dragons.
>
> "You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
> you mean, retardo!"
>

It's more like DWRM programming (do what robin means.)

Later.

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Tk::Canvas Rectangles

[Mark Fowler]

Watching veeg's really cool music program in Tk last night reminded me
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Tk::Canvas...

If I create a rectangle, how do I go about changing its width and height?

Any ideas?

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[OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Nathan Torkington]

My favourite band in the whole world, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones,
plays in London.  I urge you to see them.  It's an unholy blend of
jazz, rock, and bluegrass.  They have *the* best electric bass player
in the entire world, *the* best banjo player, and the best "whatever
that thing that makes drum sounds is 'cos it sure isn't a drum kit"
player.

http://www.flecktones.com/dates.html

5/1/2001Dingwalls   London, England
5/2/2001Pizza Express   London, England
5/3/2001Borderline  London, England
5/4/2001Ocean   London, England

If you go and don't like it, I'll buy you a pint at TPC.  :-)

Nat

Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Robin Szemeti]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
>  They have *the* best electric bass player
> in the entire world, 

ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
Norman Watt Roy ?

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> >  They have *the* best electric bass player
> > in the entire world, 
> 
> ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
> Norman Watt Roy ?

Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Jonathan Stowe]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:

> 5/2/2001  Pizza Express   London, England

Which Pizza Express ?

/J\

Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Matthew Byng-Maddick]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> > 5/2/2001Pizza Express   London, England
> Which Pizza Express ?

*The* Pizza Express (in Soho) where they play the jazz.

MBM

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Dave Hodgkinson]

David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > >  They have *the* best electric bass player
> > > in the entire world, 
> > 
> > ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
> > Norman Watt Roy ?
> 
> Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
> Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)

I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Paul Mison]

On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
>
>> 5/2/2001 Pizza Express   London, England
>
>Which Pizza Express ?

As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
Street.

Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Greg McCarroll]

* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> >
> >> 5/2/2001   Pizza Express   London, England
> >
> >Which Pizza Express ?
> 
> As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
> Street.

Beckenham

> 
> Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
> the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?
> 

speaking as a brother of the order of heretics we are happy with the
move in date, if our non-heretic comrades can remind us close to
the time, for some of our number have problems with dates

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Nathan Torkington]

Dave Hodgkinson writes:
> > > Norman Watt Roy ?
> > Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
> > Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
> I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.

All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
terrifying.

Nat

Next Social Meeting

[dcross - David Cross]

From: Paul Mison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:54 PM

> Um, just to make this not a one-liner: davorg, are you going to post
> the decision of the emergency meeting meeting?

There was a decision? Oh, wait. I remember.

I'll be out of the country at the end of next week so I won't be able to
make a reasonable decision on going ahead.

I'm therefore going to delegate this decision-making to Jo. By next Friday,
she will decide whether to hold the meeting on the planned date (3th May) or
to postpone it for a week. Holding it the previous day doesn't sound like a
good option as tube services will start to run down from about 8:00pm that
day if the strike goes ahead.

Does that sound right?

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Dave Hodgkinson]

Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dave Hodgkinson writes:
> > > > Norman Watt Roy ?
> > > Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
> > > Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
> > I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.
> 
> All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
> terrifying.

Damn, I just remembered Ishaq van Niel. Saaw him quite a lot playing
with Hans Dulfer's band in Amsterdam.

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Paul Sharpe]

Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> 
> Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Dave Hodgkinson writes:
> > > > > Norman Watt Roy ?
> > > > Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
> > > > Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)
> > > I'll see your Jaco and raise you Dave la Rue.
> >
> > All good, but if you haven't seen Victor Wooten, you should.  He's
> > terrifying.
> 
> Damn, I just remembered Ishaq van Niel. Saaw him quite a lot playing
> with Hans Dulfer's band in Amsterdam.

And Squarepusher if you like Bunny Brunel/Jaco.  But remember *nothing*
is louder than drum and bass.

paul

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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[David Cantrell]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:47:23PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> 
> > 5/2/2001Pizza Express   London, England
> 
> Which Pizza Express ?

By a process of elimination - Dean St, cos they don't have live music at
the others.

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Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

[David H. Adler]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:44:00AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:06:10 -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 07:31:59PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > 
> > > If they do start doing Doctor Who again it will have a finite lifespan,
> > > is he not near the maximum number or lives a timelord can regenerate?
> > 
> > Nah.  He's only up to his 8th incarnation.  he's got 13.  Also,
> > depending on how you look at things, he may be a special case.
> 
> I remember an episode where Peter Davidson was going to "donate" (ie.
> under pressure) his remaining generations to a bunch of aliens who
> would all have died otherwise. Surely this can be stretched so that
> other timelords can be persuaded to donate their generations to the
> Doctor, in order to keep the series going when the actors get fed
> up/sacked/die.

That would have been Mawdryn Undead.  Yes, this does imply that it is
theoretically possible, but... there is also the implication that just a
lot of generic engergy is what was needed, as a sudden influx of such is
what kept the doctor from having to give up his regenerations.
Actually, now that I think of it, the aliens were just regenerating over
and over and over again (with almost immediate deterioration), due to
their having nicked a piece of time lord technology that they had
intended to use to prolong their lives.  At the point we meet them, they
want the Doctor's regeneration energies just so they can finally *die*.
So the implication is far from clear.
 
> > [note: this does not take the comic relief special as canon...]
> 
> With my scheme, that doesn't matter, unless you want any of those
> actors to play the Doctor in the future and you believe that he can't
> be incarnated the same way twice. :-)

Regeneration theory is somewhat confused, if you take everything we know
about it into consideration.  Surely Romana doesn't use up a bunch of
regens while trying on bodies at the beginning of Destiny of the
Daleks... which raises the idea that regeneration and bodily
transformation are not the same thing.  Which also leads us to think
that the doctor may actually be only on his 7th regen, as he does not
actually die at the end of The War Games, but is sentenced to exile in a
different body.

ObLon.pm:  A buffy DW crossover would be cool...  In fact:
http://members.iglou.com/scarfman/dwxst.htm

dha

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Re: BBC was Re: Beginners Guide

[Greg McCarroll]

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> ObLon.pm:  A buffy DW crossover would be cool...  In fact:
> http://members.iglou.com/scarfman/dwxst.htm
> 

Buffy as the Doctor's assistant, now that would rock. Picture it
some shambling monster is coming down the corridor, Buffy and the
Doctor are stopped a large metal door.

D> One second my dear, i'll have this open.
*The doctor hunts around in many pockets for his sonic screwdriver,
 taking out bits of string and packets of jellybabies as he does.*
B> Hurry Doctor!
D> Yes yes, one moment here it is!
M> g, *shamble*
*the doctor starts to examine the lock and mutters all the time*
B> Hurry!
D> Please quiet, this is very delicate, hmmm ... aha i think i know
*Buffy loses it, pulls down the doctor aside, kicks the door down and goes to run
 with the doctor out, but suddenly stops, turns around and proceeds to
 beat up the shambling mound*
D> What? What?
B> Don't mention it, you can make it up to me by taking me
   shopping - there is simply oodles of closet space to fill
   in the tardis.



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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[David H. Adler]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:14:02PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> > >  They have *the* best electric bass player
> > > in the entire world, 
> > 
> > ummm ... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that honour bestowed on
> > Norman Watt Roy ?
> 
> Clive off of (void) told me to mention Billy Sheehan, Stu Hamm and
> Jaco Pastorius and see what happened :-)

I would just like to throw in John Glascock, 'cause no one ever talks
about him and I liked him.

dha
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Re: [Gllug] Saturday Show

[Dean S Wilson]

-Original Message-
From: John Southern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Dunno how many of the PMers go to the fairs but this might be of
interest:


>As you all may know SuSE have decided to help out on the Pre-LinuxDay
day.
>Along with GLLUG they will be at the UCL Union building computer show
>( Mallet Street )
>to tell anyone who will listen and even some who won't about Linux
and
>about the following weekend Lonix LinuxDay InstallFest.


Details about the Lonix fest will be in the soon coming LCN...

>A table has been booked and all help is welcome. Starts about 8:30am
>It will end in time to go and celebrate John Hearns Birthday in the
Hope pub.


Which anyone in the area is welcome to gate crash :)

>John Southern


Dean
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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Neil Ford]

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:54:14PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
> On 20/04/2001 at 16:47 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> >
> >> 5/2/2001   Pizza Express   London, England
> >
> >Which Pizza Express ?
> 
> As far as I know the only one that does live jazz is the one on Dean
> Street.
> 
Ummm not any more :-)

23 Bruton Place and 99 High Holborn both do jazz now.

Unfortunately the listing I have only covers March and April so I can't check
which one they are at.

Now somewhere we have complimentary tickets to the Jazz Club (one perk of
membership of their club), maybe this would be a good time to use them.

Neil.

RE: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Damian Conway]

   > "You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
   > you mean, retardo!"

Hey! Stop undermining the sole basis of my entire career!

Damian

Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Greg McCarroll]

* Damian Conway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> "You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to know what
>> you mean, retardo!"
> 
> Hey! Stop undermining the sole basis of my entire career!
> 

go to sleep, what time do you call this! ;-)

-- 
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Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

[Dave Cross]

At 01:35 21/04/2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>* Damian Conway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> "You can't just make up any old shit and expect the computer to 
> know what
> >> you mean, retardo!"
> >
> > Hey! Stop undermining the sole basis of my entire career!
> >
>
>go to sleep, what time do you call this! ;-)

Australia!



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Re: [OT] Flecktones in London next month

[Philip Newton]

Nathan Torkington wrote:
> 5/1/2001  Dingwalls   London, England
> 5/2/2001  Pizza Express   London, England
> 5/3/2001  Borderline  London, England
> 5/4/2001  Ocean   London, England

Hey! All of those dates are already past! (And why do they only give one
concert a month?)

Cheers,
Phi "ISO-8601 rules" lip
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.