On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
hours generating tremendous hangovers :)
"sit"? IIRC, you tried to lean against a bench but unfortunately
were standing between two benches, landing on the
Dave Cross wrote:
I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else.
Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place.
Umm. Ok.
Somebody give me the designs and I'll get them printed.
Talk over.
Or am I missing something?
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:17 AM
Dave Cross wrote:
I understood that you had delegated the actual work to someone else.
Can you ensure that your vice-chair is able to speak in your place.
Umm. Ok.
Somebody give me the designs and I'll
* at 10/04 09:15 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
* Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small
hours generating tremendous hangovers :)
"sit"? IIRC, you
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
A lot of you write and distribute free perl code. What do you do about
copyright and disclaimers in the code itself. I've had a look at a few
examples and it seems you don't really bother.
I think it is probably worth doing, and we will need one for
Aaron Trevena sent the following bits through the ether:
I habitually use the GPL, I have only recently realised how much of a pig
it can be to keep a derived work compliant.
Yup, that's why I like it so much. *This week* I'm a fan of the GPL,
and how it keeps the community going. [insert
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:59:20AM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
I habitually use the GPL, I have only recently realised how much of a pig
it can be to keep a derived work compliant. It will now take as long to
audit the changes made to mny derived work of mwforum as it did to do some
of the
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:19 AM
might be nice to have status reports from:
* The t-shirt committee
What is the design that you have agreed on? I will probably want one.
There are five. So you'll probably want somewhere between one and five
jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,
but I can't remember who they were. This is your opportunity to step
forward.
i recall promising to do 20 minutes on '101 fun things to do with
Tangram', or something like
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 April 2001 10:40
Subject: Re: Disclaimer
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:58:41AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Anything I release always has the following copyright and I think that a
number of module and script
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Devers wrote:
At 08:22 AM 9.4.2001 +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
personally the ultimate task of any minimise/restore function should be
to get a window on or off the dispaly as fast as possible ... slowly
attempting
Neil Ford wrote:
Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour
combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'?
Got em, cheers.
dcross - David Cross sent the following bits through the ether:
Last Thursday I bullied^Wasked some people to consider doing talks for us,
Righto, I'd like to do talks on the following subjects:
o Creating an optimising compiler and interpreter for a toy language
o More Graphing Perl
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:04:07AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
Do we need to dig up the original meeting notes regarding .pm/colour
combinations or is Simon to 'wing it'?
I forwarded it to him, along with the designs that Paul did.
--
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Simon Wistow wrote:
I shall proceed from here whence forth unto smack Mr Cantrell until he
doth giveth over the designs. Hither-unto. And heretowards.
Can we all join in?
I have uploaded AutoDIAL to my site where it can now be downloaed.
It creates UML class diagrams showing relationshiops, methods, attributes,
etc for a bunch of scripts/modules and lays them out ready for autodial to
use, although I think the relationship line plotting is a little
broken.
It
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three
longer talks.
I'd like to give a (preferably "longer") talk about parsing and
semantic transformation of Perl code. I promise to think of a
less scary
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote:
and it can be found at http://droogs.org/autodial/
The download link is b0rked though
/J\
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote:
and it can be found at http://droogs.org/autodial/
The download link is b0rked though
fixed
A.
--
A HREF = "http://termisoc.org/~betty" Betty @ termisoc.org /A
"As a youngster Fred fought sea
Hi All
Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box
running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use
something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl
at line 2, next 2 tokens "use strict" ". The file is a noddy
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:11:07PM +0100, Dean wrote:
Hi All
Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box
running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use
something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl
at line
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box
running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use
something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl
at line 2, next 2 tokens "use
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:13:59PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
/usr/contrib/bin/perl -V
To find out what version it is and post back.
DOH! Its running 4.0.1.8
Should have spotted that... Next time you get told the dev box is a copy of
the producing box don't believe them :)
Thanks
From: "Dean" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi All
Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box
running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use
Last time I used the default perl on HP-UX, it turned out to be perl 4. You
may need a more recent
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:17:55PM +0100, Dean wrote:
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:13:59PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
/usr/contrib/bin/perl -V
To find out what version it is and post back.
DOH! Its running 4.0.1.8
Should have spotted that... Next time you get told the dev box
From: Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:28 AM
From: "David Cantrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:58:41AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
Anything I release always has the following copyright and I think that
a
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
[broken quoting snipped]
You want the GPL for that. Which means that you can't use my copyright
message as it includes the Artisitc License - which doesn't disallow your
point 2.
The GPL doesn't stop you selling the derived work. What it *does*
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
[broken quoting snipped]
You want the GPL for that. Which means that you can't use my copyright
message as it includes the Artisitc License - which doesn't disallow your
point 2.
The GPL
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:31:11PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
At 22:10 09/04/2001, Neil Ford wrote:
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
If anyone doesn't know (or has forgotten), there will be a technical
meeting
on Thursday 19th April. It will be at
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
[broken quoting snipped]
You want the GPL for that. Which means that you can't use my copyright
message as it includes the Artisitc License -
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:29:56PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
I was an
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:11:07PM +0100, Dean wrote:
Question for the list, i'm currently writing some scripts for a HP box
running HPUX 11 and i keep hitting the same error when ever i try and use
something (even 'use strict;'.) The error is "syntax error in file p2.pl
at line 2, next 2
From: "dcross - David Cross" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You want the GPL for that. Which means that you can't use my copyright
message as it includes the Artisitc License - which doesn't disallow your
point 2.
I think therefore GPL will be good. People can sell my code, but as I will
be giving it
From: Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS
had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.
Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and with the
assistance of the Altavista host: search parameter) but couldn't
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 02:36:31PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
From: Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS
had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.
Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and
... is on its way to CPAN. If you're desperate for it, you can also snarf
it from http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/tech/Tie-Scalar-Decay-1.0.tar.gz.
It was inspired by Marcel's Tie::Scalar::Timeout. By default, it simulates
radioactive decay with a fairly arbitrary half-life of five seconds.
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
... is on its way to CPAN. If you're desperate for it, you can also snarf
it from http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/tech/Tie-Scalar-Decay-1.0.tar.gz.
It was inspired by Marcel's Tie::Scalar::Timeout. By default, it simulates
radioactive decay
I'm trying to install the Tk module on a Win32 system (I realise this is
where my mistake lies, however, leaving that aside...). The docs say to:
perl Makefile.PL
nmake
nmake test
nmake install_perl
Which seems to presume the presence of nmake as part of either an MS C or
Borland C compiler
The ugh activestate ppm files are best for this sort of thing.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
I'm trying to install the Tk module on a Win32 system (I realise this is
where my mistake lies, however, leaving that aside...). The docs say to:
perl Makefile.PL
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
I'm trying to install the Tk module on a Win32 system (I realise this is
where my mistake lies, however, leaving that aside...). The docs say to:
If you don't really need to compile it yourself how's about:
ppm install Tk?
From: Dean [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
If you don't really need to compile it yourself how's about:
ppm install Tk?
Good idea - I can see PPM being useful if I have to persist with Win32
stuff!
Thanks for the pointer James Dean.
Andrew.
On Mon Apr 9 13:09:31 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
A lot of you write and distribute free perl code. What do you do about
copyright and disclaimers in the code itself. I've had a look at a few
examples and it seems you don't really bother.
I think it is probably worth doing, and we will need
From: "Andrew Bowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Dean [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
If you don't really need to compile it yourself how's about:
ppm install Tk?
Good idea - I can see PPM being useful if I have to persist with Win32
stuff!
Also, if you have any firewall problems, or a fast link
On Tue Apr 10 11:27:48 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
1. I want anything I write to be free for others to use and generally bugger
about with.
2. I don't want anyone to be allowed to sell my code, or to sell anything
closely derived from it.
Then you cannot use GPL, Artistic, BSD, or any free
From: Robert Shiels [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Also, if you have any firewall problems, or a fast link at work and a
slow dialup at home
Thanks again - I got it installed okay (no firewall probs). The laughable
thing is that I have a fast link at home[1] and a slow ISDN at work (soon to
be
On Tue 10 Apr, Robin Szemeti wrote:
and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards
I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in
Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ...
http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3
On Tue Apr 10 13:59:15 2001, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
No. You cannot sell the source and binaries seperately.
Yes you can. If you do, you must sell the source at cost price.
--
Marty
PGP signature
On Tue Apr 10 15:51:21 2001, Rob Partington wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
... is on its way to CPAN. If you're desperate for it, you can also snarf
it from
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:51:21PM +0100, Rob Partington wrote:
Didn't Tony from Blackstar do this already?
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:33:40 +
From: Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RFC: Tie::Scalar::Timeout
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:41:51PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
Whilst I thought that a radioactive-style decay was a suitable default,
for the app I wrote it for, a simple decrement every time period was
more appropriate.
Cool Uses For Technology #497: Hmm, triggered on first access would
be
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote:
The simplist would be
# Name - brief description. (c) Copyright 2001 A Nother #
# This is free software available under the same license as perl itself
# This sofwate comes with NO WARRANTY. For more information see URL or
FILE.
The NO WARRANTY
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