[LUTE] Where is Santa Claus?

2007-12-28 Thread wikla
Where is Santa Claus? The Father Christmas? I have not seen him this year. Where could he be? Well, anyhow, he has a long beard. Perhaps he then is in Guantanamo! Better New Year! Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Continuo is the king/queen! (WAS: Awesomeness Index)

2007-12-18 Thread wikla
Hi Ron and other lutenists On 12/18/2007, Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the 60's well enough that I still enjoy listening to that stuff once in a while. Yep! John Mayall's Bluesbreaker's Crusade was the bible of our blues band in school times... And our pieces lasted at

[LUTE] Cotinuo RULEZ!

2007-12-18 Thread wikla
Sorry! I only modernized the subject of my previous mail... ;-) Arto On 12/18/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ron and other lutenists On 12/18/2007, Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember the 60's well enough that I still enjoy listening to that stuff

[LUTE] Re: Continuo is the king/queen!

2007-12-18 Thread wikla
On 12/18/2007, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to teach myself continuo for most of this year, and I'm having a terrible time with it: it seems that the more I learn, the less I know! Don't worry! Just play 3rds when you don't know what to do. And take care to know,

[LUTE] Re: Continuo is the king/queen!

2007-12-18 Thread wikla
it seems that the more I learn, the less I know! By the way, just that seems to be the proper (and VERY classical) way of learning! (Compare for ex. what Blaise Pascal wrote about knowledge.) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Personal Awesomeness Index

2007-12-17 Thread wikla
Consider also that a 10-course lute has more strings than a double-neck guitar. But only one! Well, my 10-courser has 19 strings, 1 + 2x9. Haven't the double-neck guitars a 6 string guitar and a 4 (or 5) string bass connected? So only 10 (or 11) strings? I have never heard of a 12 and 6

[LUTE] Re: Personal Awesomeness Index

2007-12-17 Thread wikla
I have never heard of a 12 and 6 stringed double guitar Probably the reason it's mentioned on the awesomeness index is that Jimmy Page used to play one. Yardbirds using one? Don't know anything about Zeppelins or other UFO's... Mayall's Bluesbreakers with all its guitar heroes was THE

[LUTE] Re: standing position for playing

2007-12-11 Thread wikla
On 12/11/2007, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All my big instruments have ultra light necks. Lucky you! :-) Arto PS I just bought a Dunlop guitar strap to my archlute... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Old lutes...

2007-12-07 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, I just found out that all my lutes seem to be quite old - from 1986 - 2003. The earlier ones were mainly made by S. Barber, see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/mylutes.html Should I think the knowledge and skill of making lutes today is much better? Especially Stephen

[LUTE] Re: Spinacino online

2007-12-01 Thread wikla
Dear Wolfgang, On 12/1/2007, wolfgang wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you noticed differences to the minkoff facsimile? Interesting! I have both. Could you show us what differences you have found thus far? All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: audit: lute playing woman

2007-11-30 Thread wikla
On 11/30/2007, wolfgang wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just found on flickr, luteplaying woman on the pulpit of rodenkirchen in the wesermarsch, germany http://www.flickr.com/photos/ana_sudani/sets/72157603323926265/ Very interesting and beautiful! Thanks Wolfgang! Arto PS Luckily _that_

[LUTE] Re: Tuning blues

2007-11-20 Thread wikla
Hi all, Nigel Solomon wrote: Benjamin Stehr wrote: Do the others on this list change the strings on their instruments between 415 and 440? Big instruments like theorbos don't seem to mind being tuned up or down a semi-tone, a slightly harder or weaker tension doesn't make much

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread wikla
Dear all, I have the Magno dieffopruchar, Venice, c.1550 (collection of J A Beare Ltd, London) by Stephen Barber, and I very much like the shape of of the neck of that instrument. I suppose Stephen made it just as it is in the original. And as Martyn wrote, the shape of my left hand around

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread wikla
I wrote I have the Magno dieffopruchar, Venice, c.1550 (collection of J A Beare Ltd, London) by Stephen Barber, and I very much like the shape of of the neck of that instrument. I suppose Stephen made it just as it is in the original. And as Martyn wrote, the shape of my left hand

[LUTE] KriegeRe: An die Einsamkeit

2007-10-19 Thread wikla
Dear Peter, On 10/18/2007, Peter Jones-RR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Also, if anyone knows of a general edition of German baroque lute songs of this ilk, I would be very interested to hear from you... You'll find LOTS of good music in that genre in Voigtlander's wonderful book that is to be

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: stringing

2007-10-05 Thread wikla
Roland, On 10/5/2007, Roland Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to have the first course at g (440) with a string length of = 67cm? ( what material?) Roland Hayes Let us calculate. (My 3 calculators should give the same results http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs

[LUTE] Re: Mobile phone version of my string calculator!

2007-10-03 Thread wikla
I advertised my new mobile calculator: On 10/3/2007, Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The address of my Mobile String Calculator is http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/mc.html There were some errors in (today's) versions 1.0-1.3 due to the pecularietie of the JavaScript system

[LUTE] Anthony Rooley's writings about performance

2007-09-28 Thread wikla
Dear all, On 9/28/2007, Jim wrote: Anthony Rooley's article in the revised edition of A Performer's Guide to Renaissance Music (Indiana University Press, 2007) is, I think, a fine exa= mple of a lute player thinking beyond the bounds of his instrument. His discussi= on of the dynamics of

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-24 Thread wikla
Dear David and all, on 9/24/2007, David Rastall wrote: Why? Are we still living in the age of Divine Rhetoricians and Lute Gods, where sacred cows safely graze? Certainly we all recognize Rooley's contribution in the lute world, but that doesn't place him above criticism. I agree with

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:21, henk wrote: .[..] I went to a concert [...] given by Hopkinson Smith [...]. Although I was sitting in the third row I could almost hear nothing of what he was playing [...] I have the same experience of nearly silence in Hopkinson Smith's concert. That time

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Prelude source?

2007-09-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all On Friday 07 September 2007 10:17, henk wrote: Thanks for your reply. Do you think H. Smith is willing to publish/share this prelude? Otherwise I will have to 're-engineer' it from the recording. It could be so that Hoppy just improvised the prelude. I think we baroque players

[LUTE] Very beautiful dall'Aquila in Arthur's pages!

2007-08-13 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, I read the Italian lute list, and there they gave a very good link! In Arthur's pages there is one containing some very good pieces by Marco dall'Aquila! As far as I remember (which is not much... ;) thse pieces have not been mentioned in this list? The address is

[LUTE] Théorbe pour les Pièces is LOTS of fun!

2007-08-02 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, nothing important this time (like those potatoes... ;). I just want to say that my lesser theorbo, the French theorbo, 76cm:8x1/140cm:6x1 by Stephen Barber, 1986, is a really nice axe when tuned to the high d -tuning - 4th above the normal theorbo in a. The re-entrant tuning on

[LUTE] Re: a stringing question

2007-08-02 Thread wikla
from the Collective Wisdom sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps my old calculator with its (old) info is useful? See my page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Calcs/wwwscalc.html Good luck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Bach in our attention

2007-08-01 Thread wikla
Well, ... ;-) -if someone is tired of Bach, it means that person is tired of music. I do not buy this implication tired of Bach = tired of music. It is like saying tired of potatoes = tired of eating. I'm never tired of listten to another interpretation. [of Bach] I am. P.S.If

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Potatoes à la Bach -was: Re: Bach in our attention

2007-08-01 Thread wikla
On 8/1/2007, Lüdtke Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donatella Galletti [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I would also suggest spinach à la Monteverdi as dish of the day.. in case of some musical fight to come... Hm - at this present moment I have to decide upon what to cook today and, dear

[LUTE] Re: Spinach à la Monteverdi

2007-08-01 Thread wikla
Spinach à la Monteverdi: -boil the spinach in salted water -drain them well and cut in small pieces -fry gently in butter with some bacon -add eggs and raisins ( previously put in lukewarm water and rinsed), some cream, pine seeds, nutmeg and pepper to taste - put in the oven for

[LUTE] Dolphin ( Was: Pickering..).

2007-06-22 Thread wikla
Dear all, On 6/21/2007, Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See Narvaez's Los seys libros del Delphin, 1538 (or is it Narbaez?). It has a picture of a large dolphin cresting the waves with a vihuelist on its back (Arion, I believe), so not royalty in this case. In renaissance world

[LUTE] Re: The mystery of theorbo

2007-06-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Ciao all, Regarding the 'historical evidence', we mus suppose an alternative tuning, not only for Meli, but also for Pittoni. So, as far I understand, the tuning of Melij and Pittoni still today is a mystery... :-) All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] The mystery of theorbo pieces by Melij?

2007-06-18 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, what might be the current opinion of the pieces Per la Tiorba in the Libro Quinto of P.P. Melli? Just played them through by theorbo and by archlute: Both are problematic, but I think archlute has less problems! Any recent research? All the best, Arto To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Lute sighting

2007-05-16 Thread Arto Wikla
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 00:09, Craig Allen wrote: This one's for Arto. Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: EXCLUSIVE: PRESIDENT BUSH CHOOSES LT. GEN. DOUGLAS LUTE AS NEW 'WAR CZAR' TO OVERSEE CONFLICTS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. Well, I should try not to be involved with these matters here, but I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Chaconne for Harlequin

2007-05-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Arthur, Does anyone know the source for a piece titled (in English??) Chaconne for Harlequin. Is that clear? does anyone know of such a piece, perhaps spelled differently in the original source. It is not in English, and it has more than Harlequin in the title, but in Le bourgeois

[LUTE] Re: Chaconne for Harlequin

2007-05-11 Thread wikla
Chris wote There's a Chaconne des Harlequins in D Major for theorbo by de Visèe in Saizenay. p.340 I suppose the Visèe version is an arrangemant of Lully's Chaconne des Scaramouches, Trivelins et Arlequins. Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Chaconne for Harlequin

2007-05-11 Thread wikla
On 5/11/2007, Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Saizenay: Chaconne.des Harlequins mise par Mr. de Visee (pages 340-1). * Paris 1106: chaconne des harlequins [de Visee] (folio 138) * Paris 6265, chacone d'arlequin [de Visee] (f. 53) All are from Lully's Bourgeois Gentilhomme. Perhaps

[LUTE] BTW Trivelins?

2007-05-11 Thread wikla
Dear collective wisdom: Chaconne des Scaramouches, Trivelins et Arlequins. Arlequins I know, Scaramouche is a character in Commedia dell'arte. But who are the Trivelins? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: youtubeouddebuttwo

2007-05-07 Thread wikla
On 5/7/2007, bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how's'zat for alliteration! ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldTqGMvPTig Directly from the Mississippi Delta! :-) Fun! Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Francesco

2007-05-01 Thread wikla
Dear hera caius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] does anyone knows a place on the internet where I can find a complete edition of Francesco da Milano's work by NessDownloadable...free Many University libraries have the wonderfull Ness edition of Francesco. And there is also the distant loan(?)

[LUTE] Re: Francesco

2007-05-01 Thread wikla
On 5/1/2007, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might not work in Transylvania. RT Well, I made the googling by transylvania university and got something really very not transylvanian. Crazy, very crazy, perhaps even insulting? Perhaps not? Anyhow they wrote in their page: Our

[LUTE] Re: thanks

2007-05-01 Thread wikla
On 5/1/2007, hera caius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all, I'm not living in Transilvania (Roman), It doesn't exist... But I'm living in a place somehow hostile to early music which had not give anithing big in this area but we have a great lute player, a guy named

[LUTE] Re: Coming to the US from Europe

2007-04-27 Thread wikla
I just wonder why would anyone want do that? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Coming to the US from Europe

2007-04-27 Thread wikla
I just wonder why would anyone want do that. USA used to be the dear enemy; You could say anythign about it, and you could thrust they are there - that there are more or less clever human beings there, who answer and perhaps even explain the matters to us dummy Europeans. After GWB's torture

[LUTE] Re: Coming to the US from Europe

2007-04-27 Thread wikla
Thanks David On 4/28/2007, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Believe me, Arto, millions of people here feel just as badly about the present regime as you do. I hope so, too. But USA really has lost its moral superirioty recently . No one will thrust USA for a couple of generations.!

[LUTE] OT but music or at least sound: Episyklofoni

2007-04-17 Thread wikla
someone is interested? If my earlier applets did not work in your system, this will neither... ;-( And the opposite. You can find the graphical virtual instrument in page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/Episyklofoni/ and some explanations of the idea in page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla

[LUTE] Re: Busking on the Lute.

2007-04-09 Thread Arto Wikla
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, LGS-Europe wrote: We should start a lute F1 society, perhaps? ;-) I'll join that club immediately! :) (Räikkönen and Kovalainen are Finns, Rosberg half Finn... and yes, I have to watch every race... :-) Arto -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] F1 and theorbo... ;-)

2007-04-09 Thread Arto Wikla
I answered: We should start a lute F1 society, perhaps? ;-) I'll join that club immediately! :) (Räikkönen and Kovalainen are Finns, Rosberg half Finn... and yes, I have to watch every race... :-) And so every 200th Finn is a Formula 1 driver! ;) (500/2.5 = 200) And it is

[LUTE] Cute! ;-)

2007-03-30 Thread Arto Wikla
[...] my humble self in the context of literary mystification from Descartes, Chatterton, Macpherson, Merimee, Musin-Pushkin and other fine individuals [Some of] the Americans (USA-cans?) are so _cute_ when calling the guys like Descartes, Chatterton, Macpherson, Merimee, Pushkin, ...,

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] cello - Italian

2007-03-18 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: This is fun! :-) So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek) cithara, Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA. Are you sure? References? Arto Yes.

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] cello - Italian

2007-03-17 Thread Arto Wikla
The root word here is viola. The diminutive ending is ino, giving violino, little viola. Meaning small viol, of course. ello is an aggrandizing ending, so violoncello is big viola. This is a bit backward. Ello is a diminutive, and a violoncello is a small violone. This is

[LUTE] Re: [Viols] cello - Italian

2007-03-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: This is fun! :-) So violone is a big viola, as chitarrone is a big (ancient Greek) cithara, Actually not. Chitarrone is a big CHITARRA ITALIANA. Are you sure? References? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Aging wood outdoors.

2007-03-13 Thread Arto Wikla
The top of my chitarrino, made by lutenist Eero Palviainen, comes from a house wall made in the 16th century - says Eero. Thus the wood has aged a longish time outdoors. :-) And the sound of the instrument is definitely best chitarrino sound I've ever met... Aging wood outdoors seems to work...

[LUTE] Re: Renaissance ditto/ij/ --was Fuenllana Tan que vivray

2007-03-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Sean Smith wrote: Are there any plausible latin phrases based on ij? As far as I know, it means iterate item; letters i and j were quite the same in printing in those days. All the best, Arto PS Once upon a time one singer was singing a baroque song telling

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Pimpinella

2007-03-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Peter al. On Monday 05 March 2007 11:29, Peter Steur wrote: in some manuscripts for baroque lute, pieces are found that are designated with 'Pimpinella', a word that I have always found a bit strange. Now finally I have searched a little bit on it and found that it is actually the

[LUTE] Re: Fronimo

2007-02-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Bruno et al. On Saturday 24 February 2007 03:42, Bruno Correia wrote: Does anybody knows if there is an English translation of Galilei's Fronimo text? Yes, there is, text translated, music as facsimile: Carol MacClintock, American Institute of Musicology, Hanssler-Verlag, 1985. You

[LUTE] Re: I joined the club of YouTube... ;-)

2007-02-20 Thread Arto Wikla
as you, recorded those pieces with a small digital camera that has a video funtion, and my original (quite big) AVI-files do not have any problem with synchronization, as you can see in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Sarmatica/index.html So I guess the problem must be somehow

[LUTE] I joined the club of YouTube... ;-)

2007-02-19 Thread Arto Wikla
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Sarmatica/YouTube.html where they are all. All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: YouTube - The Nightingale

2007-02-06 Thread Arto Wikla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zOOdpJ0IIg Is he playing on a double strung theorbo? First time I see one... Yes, that's what it seems to be. I was surprised to see it, too. Take a look to 05:02-05:04, and you can clearly see double strung (1st single) archlute stringing (and also hear

[LUTE] Re: YouTube - The Nightingale

2007-02-05 Thread Arto Wikla
Is he playing on a double strung theorbo? First time I see one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zOOdpJ0IIg If it looks like archlute and sounds like archlute, it must be archlute! ;-) (Actually the player seems to have two intruments.) All the best, Arto To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Discography Help Requested.

2007-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, David Rastall wrote: Define other than continuo That was good, David! :-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute Discography Help Requested.

2007-02-02 Thread Arto Wikla
OBBLIGATO. If you play continuo to the late baroque, in the style, you cannot avoid that... :) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: jan dismas zelenka and the tiorba

2007-01-31 Thread Arto Wikla
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Roman Turovsky wrote: There seem to be no convincing counterarguments. The burden of the proof is on the one who claims something. (I am sure there is also an _English_ idiom of saying that... ;-) Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] VERY OFF TOPIC! (political?)

2007-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, it is going bad! Mr. Bush - the winner of the USA elections, the man chosen by (nearly) half of the Amercians, has managed to produce a civilian war in a country, where he sent his military. Tens if not hundreds of people are killed EVERY day! Human beings like you or me. This is

[LUTE] Re: Merry Christmas greetings from the Country of Santa Claus!

2006-12-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Stuart, On Friday 22 December 2006 11:54, Stuart Walsh wrote: I'm having interpretation and performance problems with this piece (rutabaga): http://virtual.finland.fi/xmas/?p=4sub=3 I think of pieces in this genre as being primarily liquid - stock/wine with meat or fish and

[LUTE] A small Christmas present

2006-12-22 Thread wikla
plain and simple, but I think this piece is as beautiful as it is simple. You can find the pdf at the end of my Lully page: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ Merry Christmas to everybody!] Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc

[LUTE] Merry Christmas greetings from the Country of Santa Claus!

2006-12-21 Thread Arto Wikla
Merry Christmas to the Lute List members! As usual here are some www-links to pages of Santa himself: Joulupukin Kammari - Santa Claus Office - Joulupukki, Lapland ... http://www.santaclauslive.com/ Finland Post Ltd, Santa Claus' Main Post Office

[LUTE] Great or horrible - the poll is over, the results

2006-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Poll1206/ ;-) All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Great or horrible - questionable pol l ?

2006-12-15 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Daniel Shoskes wrote: For another take on the Finnish view of dance and music, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJj6d5QSYaE Fantastic! I give +50 points! ;-)) And he is my compatriot! Arto To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] More Lully, now to chitarrino :-)

2006-12-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenistis, I wanted to try, how Lully would suit to 4 course renaissance guitar. You can find pdf's and also midi's of Marche pour la Ceremonie des Turcs and Canarie in my page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ My explanation reads: These arrangements

[LUTE] Re: More Lully, now to chitarrino :-)

2006-12-07 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thursday 07 December 2006 13:42, Stuart Walsh wrote: What about the second chord in bar 23? Is it really that spicy or should that be a letter d on the fourth course? Oh, yes! Of course! I just fixed it in the pdf! Later I'll fix also the midi! Thanks Stuart. Arto To get on or off

[LUTE] Great or horrible, a poll!

2006-12-04 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I do not want to set light to make a fight, but I would like to make an artistic, aesthetic poll. Everybody is right and everybody is wrong, as always in aesthetic questions. So how would you set the aesthetic quality of the (parts) of Bourgeois Gentilhomme setup by Jean Marie

[LUTE] Re: Sting!

2006-11-24 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutenists, I had already decided to skip this subject, but then on Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Roman wrote: And as far as the specific performance is concerned: there are opinions out there according to which EK/S's IN DARKNESS is likely to be the best Dowland performance ever, full of

[LUTE] Re: Midi-versions of the Suite Méditerranée

2006-11-16 Thread Arto Wikla
Sorry, I forgot the address: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, I wrote: Dear lutenists, I made also midi-versions of the pieces of the Suite Méditerranée, the version for 10-course lute. (Thanks again, Wayne!) They are perhaps useful for getting

[LUTE] Piano tabulature Was: New Lutenist Question

2006-11-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I think the staff notation is only kind of piano tabulature, there is a system for right hand and left hand (and yes I know this is simplistic). And the modern octave trasposed guitar notation is kind of guitar tabulature. Both have been developed for special purposes. As are

[LUTE] Re: Piano tabulature Was: New Lutenist Question

2006-11-15 Thread Arto Wikla
Well, one correction: I wrote: I prefer tabulature for solo and (of course) normal notation (only the numbered bass) for continuo. In continuo I very much need/want to have also the music of the singer/singers/player/players I accompany. Especially in early baroque monody! All the best,

[LUTE] Re: Buxtehude Lutes

2006-11-10 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Edward, I've been asked to play for Buxtehude's Membra Jesu Nostri next March, accompanying a chamber choir and a quartet of string players. I haven't a Theorbo, but would an Archlute be inappropriate? It's a large Harz-model, so it's pretty loud... I haven't seen the music yet, but

[LUTE] Lully's Suite Méditerranée for 10-course lute

2006-11-03 Thread Arto Wikla
): * Marche pour la Ceremonie des Turcs * Ritournelle Italienne * Premier air des Espagnols * Second air des Espagnols * Canarie And the place is: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ All the best, Arto -- To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] Lully's 1er et 2de airs des Espagnols for 10-course lute!

2006-11-02 Thread Arto Wikla
/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Lully's Ritournelle Italienne now has has fingerings...

2006-10-30 Thread Arto Wikla
. is the highest voice at any moment. I have also added the fingerings that suit to my fingers. The piece is to be found in my Lully page: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ Enjoy! :-) All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Lully's Ritournelle Italienne for 10-courser published!

2006-10-28 Thread Arto Wikla
at least some justice to Lully's art and genius! My brand new tab is in my page of Lully's Marche: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Lully is very good!

2006-10-27 Thread Arto Wikla
nearly finished an arrangement of the Ritournelle Italienne for 10-course lute; works very well! The address will be the same: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ Lully really seems to be one of the great guys, a composer of the highest rank! I'll inform the List, when

[LUTE] Re: more than 6 courses

2006-10-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Göran et all On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, G. Crona wrote: When you look at the Phalese-Teghi late 1540s there is some 6th course scordatura. IMO they found out about then that a 7th course would make sense. Well, as you perhaps know, already Dalza used a couple of scordaturi that could be

[LUTE] Re: more than 6 courses

2006-10-20 Thread Arto Wikla
Oops, sorry for my grammatical error: Well, as you perhaps know, already Dalza used a couple of scordaturi that could be interpreted in the same way... Scordatura in plural must of course be scordature! :-) Ashamed... ;) All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]

2006-10-19 Thread Arto Wikla
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to the lute but have played guitar for many years. I would like to be able to play both renaissance and Baroque pieces. In purchasing an instrument would an 11 course lute work for both or would the D-minor tuning be a problem for the

[LUTE] Lully's Marche now also for theorbo! Very re-entrant! ;-)

2006-10-18 Thread Arto Wikla
! Assuming a theorbo in a, my transcription is in the key of e-minor. You can find both transcriptions (10-course and theorbo) and also the original 5-part version by Lully in my new page: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ All the best, Arto PS What really is the difference

[LUTE] Re: Lully's Marche now also for theorbo! Very re-entrant! ;-)

2006-10-18 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi Roman and all, On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Roman Turovsky wrote: A 11-13course version is at http://polyhymnion.org/swv/opus-2.html Roman, you were very fast, indeed! May I put a link to my Lully/Marche page? Or perhaps put even a copy directly to my directory? (with a link to polyhymnion, of

[LUTE] Re: Why re-entrant tuning?

2006-10-13 Thread wikla
Hi all, I have always wondered the following explation for re-entrantness: They wanted to have a big lute in a but could not tune the first or two first strings to the right pitch. That is why they lowered those an octave. If that had been the reason, why didn't they just tune the lute to d or

[LUTE] Re: Why re-entrant tuning?

2006-10-13 Thread Arto Wikla
.. And do not forget Caccini's comments on the matter ... He was there then... Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-12 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, just a couple of comments, not against anyone: 1) I think that when modulation, change of key, inside a piece became central means of expression in early classisim, the open basses of baroque lutes and theorboes just could not cope with the style anymore. 2) I suppose the

[LUTE] Sting and Edin in BBC

2006-10-11 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi gang, I happened to find a net version of BBC concert, where Sting and Edin perform their Dowland in a church (?) (All tracks recorded by the BBC at LSO St Lukes). I must say this sounds much better than the mp3's that have been pointed here earlier. And some of the performances are very

[LUTE] Re: Another Theorbo Question

2006-10-07 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all, I wrote: This could be a good idea to me: I have now my smaller theorbo (Barber's French theorbo, 76cm:8x1/140cm:6x1) stringed and tuned to high d-theorbo, but that instrument could be easily set also to d-minor tuning. But what would our collective hip police say about playing

[LUTE] Lully: Marche pour la Ceremonie des Turcs

2006-10-07 Thread Arto Wikla
in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Lully/Marche/ren_lute.pdf Many thanks (again!) to Wayne C. for his tab-program, and also for his advice (again!)! All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Another Theorbo Question

2006-10-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Hi all Yet another theorbo question. It seems to me that a moderately-sized solo theorbo in D minor tuning would be a good all-purpose Baroque lute upon which one could play the modern late 17th/early 18th- century continuo, as well as all the German (and maybe even some of the French?)

[LUTE] Re: Dear lutelist!

2006-09-30 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Tony and all, on Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Tony Chalkley wrote: Looking at your other message, it seems that you got a fair number of responses with attachments - they can only go direct to you - I don't think it was a question of hiding the info from the list. Sorry sincerly, I've forgot

[LUTE] Found the score of Marche pour la cèrèmo nie des Turcs!

2006-09-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I asked info of a certain piece by Lully. I got good info and also some midi-files. Many thanks! Very useful! But I got something even more useful, which I'll share with you. One private mail (I do not know if the person will his name be mentioned?) told me that the facsimile of

[LUTE] Dear lutelist!

2006-09-29 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear lutelist, a short while ago I asked a question in the List. And I got several good and useful answers, too. But everything came as mail only to me. Good, very good to get the knowledge, to get the info. But is the List somehow dead? Is it only possible to be public in a talk about Sting or

[LUTE] Paris 5.-12.10.?

2006-09-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, one friend of mine, who only reads this list, doesn't write, asked me to ask the List something This friend is a lute and theorbo player, and she is going to Paris 5th October. She would like to have advice and ideas about - (early) music shops - museums (with lutes and

[LUTE] The score of Marche pour la cèrèmonie de s Turcs?

2006-09-28 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear collective knowledge, does anyone happen to have a link to a pdf (or such) version to the score of Lully's Marche pour la cèrèmonie des Turcs? After the film Tous les matins du monde that piece has become very popular (at least in the Finnish Classical FM radio), and for a good reason; the

[LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!

2006-09-25 Thread Arto Wikla
It has been long time when I last tuned my archlute - which now is stringed by single strings on the fingerboard (and of course single basses). I tuned the beast (or the axe a'la RT), and what nice and lute like sound it has! And there is not a single gut string... just the horrible and un-HIP

[LUTE] Re: Single strung archlute !!!

2006-09-25 Thread Arto Wikla
BTW, in his article Chitarrone, Theorbo and Archlute late Bob Spencer also mentions the possibility that Banchieri might have meant by chitarrone an instrument tuned lute like and by single strings. That is why I sometimes have called my sometimes single stringed archlute a Bachieri archlute.

[LUTE] Re: Sting? - Lute awareness?- Fantasy instrument - 30 Years of EM

2006-09-25 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, if everybody (=you) have to say some comments of Sting's Dowland, here are mine: 1) To me - to my ears and to my understanding - he sings very, VERY, amateur-wise. Technically and also artistically. It was a surprise to me that a professional pop/rock? singer really wants to

[LUTE] Re: lute songs about food and drink

2006-09-15 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Roman Turovsky wrote: Epistel 82 lists quite a few food items: http://bellman.net As far as I understand, in the Swedish explanation of the Epistel 82: (http://www.bellman.net/texter/komm_fe82.html) I denna magnifikt vemodiga avslutande epistel får Fredman återlämna det

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