[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Also, keep in mind - In Elisabeth[1]an English the word 'brass' can mean any bronze alloy, or copper, rather than the strict modern definition of brass. RT On 7/10/2012 9:26 AM, [2]theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Brass strings (or an alloy closer to bronze) were used on irish and scottish

[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
much later, I think. the lubrication essential for drawing brass wire wasn't invented until a couple of centuries after 1300's. RT 7/10/2012 9:26 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Brass strings (or an alloy closer to bronze) were used on irish and scottish harps from the 1300s onward. It would

[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
ers/innovations/2000/01-brasses/history_brass.html > > All best > > JL > > Wiadomość napisana przez Roman Turovsky w dniu 10 lip 2012, o godz. 17:40: > >> much later, I think. the lubrication essential for drawing brass wire >> wasn't invented until a cou

[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Wiadomo¶æ napisana przez Roman Turovsky w dniu 10 lip 2012, o godz. 19:55: The way it was explained to me by a metallurgist: drawing brass requires lube that wouldn't burn at the teperature necessary to draw. And that lagged a bit. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jaros³a

[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
st curious. RT On 7/11/2012 6:06 AM, R. Mattes wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:53:11 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote It is not as simple as that. The die has to be lubricated to pass heated wire, and as I recall brass was too hot for the die, until the discovery that urine could be used for that pr

[LUTE] Re: brass strings on 15th century lutes

2012-07-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
The ancient wire was hammered, not drawn. RT On 7/12/2012 1:13 PM, William Samson wrote: As for wire-drawing, it seems the ancient Celts were able to do it with gold - their torcs are made from twisted ropes of gold wire. Who knows how they did it, but it seems there was a technolo

[LUTE] Dialogues with Time

2012-07-15 Thread Roman Turovsky
Last year I was asked to write an article about Ukrainian Lute Music by the NYFolklore Society magazine VOICES. The article finally came out: http://www.nyfolklore.org/pubs/voic37-3-4/dialogues.html for your perusal and delectation RT To get on or off this list see list information at htt

[LUTE] Re: Eleonore von Schlieben-Sanditten

2012-07-19 Thread Roman Turovsky
According to Peter Greenaway all baroque painting is pure symbolism. RT On 7/19/2012 4:32 PM, William Samson wrote: Looks like eight double courses on the petit jeu and another four double diapasons. The red (loaded?) strings start at the third course, suggesting that it had a low p

[LUTE] Re: Ricercare a 6

2012-09-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
On 9/22/2012 2:30 PM, Guy Smith wrote: Does anyone have a continuo part for the Ricercare a 6 from JSB's A Musical Offering. I've got a harpsichord realization, but it's in the wrong key (we are in C minor). I can work it out from the score or transpose the harpsichord part, but i

[LUTE] Re: What is the point of synthetics?

2012-10-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
You don't have to live in them tropics to have these troubles. The same goes for New York City, known for extreme humidity swings. Ben's axe may simply have unstable pegs, or structural issues. RT On 10/5/2012 5:09 AM, Edward Chrysogonus Yong wrote: Dear fellow lutenutters, I can think of a

[LUTE] Re: What is the point of synthetics?

2012-10-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
The beauty of gut sound is greatly compromised by gut's insufferable intonation, especially on the octaved courses. RT Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jarosław Lipski wrote: > Yes, varnishing helps, but doesn't totally stop a string absorbing humidity. > It rather protects fr

[LUTE] Re: What is the point of synthetics?

2012-10-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> not the issue raised by Benjamin, but relative rather than absolute > pitch (I think). > Regards > Anthony > ______ > > De : Roman Turovsky > AEUR : JarosAA'aw Lipski > Cc : "lut

[LUTE] Re: four and twenty

2018-01-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
in Eastern Slavic languages that break is at 20. RT On 1/29/2018 10:03 AM, mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Interestingly in Catalan the break seems to occur between sixteen and seventeen - quinze, setze, disset, perhaps because it is half way between Italian and Spanish. In Latin from which bot

[BAROQUE-LUTE] El Cant Dels Ocells

2018-01-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
Mes amics, For your perusal and delectation, a set of Variations on "El Cant Dels Ocells", a Catalan folk song: http://polyhymnion.org/swv/ocells.html in three versions: for baroque lute, archlute, or theorbo. Enjoy! RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmou

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Roman Turovsky
All of Europe's population was drunk all the time, until 1683, when coffee was adopted from the Turks. RT Wasn't Dowland fired by King Christian of Denmark for being drunk all the time? Could it be then considered that playing ‘stoned' was more ‘authentic'? A

[LUTE] Re: Francesco or da Crema

2018-02-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
I recall a conversation with Pat O'Brien about dC many years ago, and he said there was a lot of plagiarism in his works. RT On 2/20/2018 3:45 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi Leonard, They could be derived from a common model, such as a recercar by Giulio Segni (da Modena).  A more explicit ca

[LUTE] Re: Some questions

2018-03-15 Thread Roman Turovsky
and what are the exceptions, in your opinion? RT On 15/03/2018 00:16, howard posner wrote: Maybe because, firstly much of the music composed for lute today is incredibly trite and uninteresting when set against the works of the great composers of the renaissance and the baroque pe

[LUTE] Re: New post on Unquiet Thoughts

2018-03-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
always thought Tony Rooley was a bit of a charlatan. RT On 3/24/2018 11:03 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: After a long hiatus, we have finally posted the first in our new series of Saturday morning quotes. [1]https://wp.me/p15OyV-4jy Ron & Donna -- References Visible links

[LUTE] Theorbo

2018-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear theorbist friends, I now have 30 pieces for solo theorbo, with 4 videos by Rob MacKillop and Peter Damsma at [1]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo.html Newly added is Горлиця (Mourning Dove), a sprightly Ukrainian dance with 3 doubles - [2]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theo

[LUTE] Re: Meaning of title "Silva de Sirenas"

2018-04-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
Definitely not. Stephen Fryer is correct - A Forest of Sirens, a poetic title. RT On 4/11/2018 5:10 PM, d.p.medve...@gmail.com wrote: I am not an expert in Spanish but, as far as I understand, "silva" means simply "collection" (primarily of poetry, but in this case of music). It probably derive

[LUTE] A Ukrainian Stabat Mater

2018-04-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
for your perusal and delectation, in the versions for solo theorbo - http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/cherez-pole-theorbo.pdf http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/cherez-pole-theorbo.mp3 or archlute (or 10course) - http://polyhymnion.org/swv/archlute/cherez-pole-arciliuto2.pdf http

[LUTE] Verner Ravn

2018-05-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
"VERNER RAVN" - a Danish ballad with 4 doubles for solo theorbo, for your perusal and delectation - [1]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/vernerravn-theorbo.pdf [2]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/vernerravn-theorbo.mp3 Enjoy! Amities, RT References 1. http://p

[LUTE] Re: Conradi Sonata in C Major - source?

2018-06-02 Thread Roman Turovsky
It seems the consensus is that Conradi was the publisher, but not the composer, who remains unidentified. RT On 6/2/2018 12:23 PM, Luca Manassero wrote: Thank you, Ed. In the meantime I got a few copies, but I'll order the facsimile by Tree Editions. I knew Conradi already, but was

[LUTE] Re: Why Bach needed to see Buxtehude

2018-06-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
The Channel in question is set up by your own distributor, so you'd have to sue him/her directly!)) RT On 6/29/2018 11:35 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: > > If You like some examples, listen to David van Ooijen and Michiel > Niessen's Terzi album > [1]https://www.yo

[LUTE] Re: Starting Theorbo

2018-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
try some of mine - http://polyhymnion.org/theorbo.html RT On 7/10/2018 6:11 PM, George Arndt wrote: Dear Collected Wisdom: I have rented a small theorbo from the American Lute Society for one year to learn how to play it. What easy pieces do you recommend I begin with? Th

[LUTE] Re: Starting Theorbo

2018-07-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo.html better URL! RT On 7/10/2018 6:55 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: try some of mine - http://polyhymnion.org/theorbo.html RT On 7/10/2018 6:11 PM, George Arndt wrote:     Dear Collected Wisdom:     I have rented a small theorbo from the American Lute

[LUTE] De Temporum Fine - Volume 2

2018-07-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear friends, Chris Wilke, Slavko Halatyn and I would like to let you know that the Volume 2 of the De Temporum Fine Postludia is in production! Your support is heartily appreciated: [1]https://www.gofundme.com/de-temporum-fine-volume-2 [2]https://youtu.be/SJAtEUnckps RT -- References

[LUTE] Re: prostitution

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
well, there are still "two-bit" deals out there, but those are too risky, in this day and age. RT On 8/10/2018 10:41 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote: I can't even remember when 2 cents would get me anything  at all, with a lady and her lute. DW On 8/10/2018 7:38 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: You

[LUTE] De Temporum Ragas - Ukraine

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear friends, do not neglect the fact that Chris Wilke and I are producing our 2nd CD of Ukrainian Baroque-Lute Ragas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAtEUnckps and the recording sessions have occurred last weekend in New York City! Your rupees can support the editing: https://www.gofundme.co

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
I don't about others, but it seems an awfully vegetarian curry to me. RT On 8/10/2018 10:02 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: So, officially I ask the list: Does anyone of you support anything I say? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin

[LUTE] Re: The illusory truth effect [was: Re: Francesco//Siena 62 - "5th Mode" - Raga Kamod

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Harmonium lends itself to Ukrainian music amazingly well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtpFZ4LuN4 RT On 8/10/2018 7:41 AM, Ido Shdaimah wrote: Dear Tristan, The Harmonium isn't traditionally used Indian Classical music: In Indian music, only the Swaras (notes) Pa and Sa are set

[LUTE] "455th Mode" - Raga Kiev

2018-08-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
BTW, I realize that I haven't posted any vindaloo here in a while, and I have at least a dozen new Ukrainian and Danish ragas by Trond Bengtson, Stuart Walsh and Diego Leveric on my Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/lute88/videos?view=0&sort=dd&flow=grid RT On 8/10/2018 11:17 AM,

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

2018-09-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
The computer analysis of Shakespeare’s vocabulary conducted some 20 years ago has determined that it matched the Warwickshire dialect. So all the conspiracy theories apropos have been blown out the water. RT Sent from my iPad On Sep 17, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: I'm familiar w

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

2018-09-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
The computer analysis of Shakespearian vocabulary that pinned it on a single individual from Warwickshire was featured prominently on the great PBS documentary “The Story Of English”. RT PS I had a classmate in college who was a Dutch crown prince. He was mainly a weeder. There goes the myth o

[LUTE] Nick Cave

2019-01-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
For the Nick Cave fans among Lutenetters: I have made a simple arrangement of the HENRY LEE ballad, in various keys for different voice ranges, plus one version for theorbo. Interested parties, drop me an email! Happy New Year! RT == Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. http://polyhymnion.

[LUTE] Re: Rust Viola & lute Sonata

2019-01-07 Thread Roman Turovsky
the photostat that I looked at the LincolnCenter library 30 yeaqrs ago was a different sonata, with a slow movement in minor. Same handwriting I think. RT On 1/7/2019 2:20 PM, Arthur Ness wrote: He's a digital copy (grandson scribe???). https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkans

[LUTE] LA RITURNELLA

2019-02-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
For those who may be familiar with this traditional song from Sicily - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSJ711ThbHw - a very cheesy version, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwCMn5YXEQ8 - a very classy version and wishing to accompany oneselfon lute or theorbo: http://polyhymnion.org/lieder/images/

[LUTE] Re: LA RITURNELLA

2019-02-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
On 2/11/2019 6:43 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: For those who may be familiar with this traditional song from Sicily - [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSJ711ThbHw - a very cheesy version, [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwCMn5YXEQ8 - a very classy version

[LUTE] Tombeau de Boleslaw Lesmian

2019-02-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
__._,_.___ __ Envoyé par : Roman Turovsky [2] __ [stime50433513] __,_._,___ -- References 1. https://youtu.be/H7KrfGtV1jg?fbclid=IwAR095v_L3CGkvXydACIUPi6OccXlgk1av-gLyrqO9FVQH4aW21MyeKynndo 2. mailto:lu...@polyhymnion.org To

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
Nothing to do with the model. Caravaggio himself was documented to have been a competent plucker, so he absolutely knew how to depict them fingers in correct positions. David van Edwards is "right on the money". RT On 3/4/2019 3:01 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: There's no reason why the third f

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
According to Pat O'Brien one should never bend the right pinky, as that locks the rest of the hand and particularly - the elbow. Pat actually had me put masking tape on my pinky early on, to prevent it from bending. RT On 3/5/2019 2:11 AM, Jurgen Frenz wrote: It would be totally excellent if yo

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute duets

2019-03-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/adue2.html RT On 3/23/2019 10:51 AM, b...@symbol4.de wrote: Gesendet: Samstag, 23. März 2019 um 15:15 Uhr Von: "Richard Brook" An: "Jay F." Cc: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Best luthier to make a 1728 Edlinger/problems with

[LUTE] Re: Heavy theorbo neck

2019-03-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
Pat's opinion re the luthier's fault. RT On 3/23/2019 7:01 PM, howard posner wrote: What do you base that conclusion on? Did the lute formerly have a lighter neck? On Mar 23, 2019, at 3:16 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: One of my lutes is neck-heavy, and it definitely has been detrimental to

[LUTE] Rust and lute

2019-03-25 Thread Roman Turovsky
Coincidently, I have arranged Rust's setting of Goethe's Wanderers Nachlied for lute in two versions, in F and C, Played it with a contralto friend at a Stubbs' masterclass 30 years ago: http://polyhymnion.org/lieder/images/rust-c.pdf http://polyhymnion.org/lieder/images/rust-f.pdf Enjoy! Met

[LUTE] Re: Heavy theorbo neck

2019-03-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
x27;d have asked him the question I asked you. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 23, 2019, at 18:02, Roman Turovsky <[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pat's opinion re the luthier's fault. > RT > >> On 3/23/2019 7:01 PM, howard posner wr

[LUTE] An Estonian Air

2019-03-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
For your perusal and delectation: http://polyhymnion.org/swv/setomaa.html SIBERI SETUDE LUGU, a traditional Estonian melody in three versions, for baroque lute, theorbo and renaissance lute. Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/l

[LUTE] Re: Nylon string 2m

2019-04-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
you can get unlimited lenghts of Seaguar carbonfiber. RT On 4/1/2019 7:20 AM, Yuval Dvoran wrote: Hi folks, Any ideas, where I can get a nylon string of 1,80-2,00m length? I already asked Pyramid and Kürschner, both only have short ones. Savarez I'll contact in some minutes.

[LUTE] Re: Nylon string 2m

2019-04-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
arbon will be too thin for this job... I'd love to use Nylgut, but 0,62 is too thick, and they don't produce it in 0,6 in 1,80m length. Am 01.04.2019 15:39 schrieb Roman Turovsky : you can get unlimited lenghts of Seaguar carbonfiber. RT On 4/1/2019 7:20 AM, Yuval Dvoran wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Froeberger on Baroque lute

2019-04-13 Thread Roman Turovsky
look at #34 at http://polyhymnion.org/swv/opus-2.html RT On 4/13/2019 7:48 PM, Jay F. wrote: Hello All, I was wondering if someone could point me to some good transcriptions of Froberger's keyboard music for 13c lute? Best wishes, Jay -- To get on or off this list s

[LUTE] S.Zhadan "SEARCH": film, lute and war

2019-04-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
For those of my friends who couldn't attend the fabulous event at the Ukrainian Museum on April 12: here's the video from it: [1]https://youtu.be/4aeiETVd3jU Special thanks to [2]Stuart Walsh and [3]Володимир Харченко! RT -- References 1. https://youtu.be

[LUTE] theorbo repertoire

2019-04-19 Thread Roman Turovsky
A question to the collective wisdom: Someone mentioned to me that there are practically no surviving solo theorbo pieces in e-minor or b-minor. Is that true? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
for organ? RT On 4/20/2019 4:22 AM, Jean-Marie POIRIER wrote: John Wilson has also Voluntaries in these keys ! Jean-Marie > Message du 19/04/19 23:02 > De : "magnus andersson" [1] > A : "Roman Turovsky" [2], "Lute Net"

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

2019-04-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
major. Other keys are much less common." RT On 4/20/2019 4:22 AM, Jean-Marie POIRIER wrote: John Wilson has also Voluntaries in these keys ! Jean-Marie > Message du 19/04/19 23:02 > De : "magnus andersson" [1] > A : "Roman

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-07 Thread Roman Turovsky
Manicure has been around a long more than lute-playing. RT On 5/7/2019 4:44 PM, John Mardinly wrote: Pure speculation. Where are the facts? Can anyone document good nail polishing techniques that may have been used centuries ago? I would love to see it. Techniques used to polish t

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2019-05-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
Fernando Sor. RT On 5/8/2019 9:35 AM, magnus andersson wrote: Do we have any evidence of any historical guitar or theorbo player who explicitly played without fingernails? [1]Skickat från Yahoo Mail för iPhone Den onsdag, maj 8, 2019, 3:20 em, skrev Martyn Hodgson :

[LUTE] De Temporum Fine Postludia II

2019-05-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear friends, The “De Temporum Fine Postludia II” CD has just been released electronically! The physical CDs will be available next week! Full track previews! Enjoy- [1]http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/christopherwilke22 RT -- References 1. http://store.cdbaby.com/c

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
iPhones are great for arts. I have 3 of them plus an iPad, dedicated to various projects. RT On 5/18/2019 8:06 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Roman, just NO. :) Why would I want an iPhone. Or even a phone with a computer in it. My old Motorola Razr V9 looks good and doesn't need to recharge

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcTeHQu-Ml0 this is the result on the Rode recording app. RT On 5/18/2019 10:48 AM, Ido Shdaimah wrote: How do they fare when it comes to the lute? My cheap (but pretty awesome for the price) Xiaomi phone has an abysmal microphone. On Sat, 18 May 2019, 16:53 Roman

[LUTE] Re: decent field recorder for lute

2019-05-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
Of course you can hear noise. This is New York City!)) RT On 5/18/2019 12:24 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Seems ok, but I can hear the noise. The stand alone devices have better ratio there. On 18.05.19 18:04, Roman Turovsky wrote: built mic in iPhones is mono, as is the recording

[LUTE] lutes in the 1980's

2019-06-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear Collective Wisdom, Do you know anything about the luthier who signed as Hubertus Claudius Alkmaar, in the 1980's? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Plucking Room

2019-06-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
On well-made lutes - bridges don't sink. RT On 6/29/2019 10:30 AM, Matthew Daillie wrote: Unfortunately things don't work that way. Generally over time the tension of the strings pulls the bridge towards the neck so that its front edge sinks and this is what causes the bulge in the soundboard

[LUTE] Re: Plucking Room

2019-06-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
I have 6 axes, no bulges on any of them, knock on wood. RT On 6/29/2019 12:14 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote: Oh well, if you say so. Maybe you'd like to inform the cream of the British makers that their lutes aren't well made then. Best, Matthew On Jun 29, 2019, at 18:02, Roman Turov

[LUTE] Re: David Gilmore [guitar] Collection being sold

2019-06-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
Are there any lutes there? If not - I wouldn't bother looking.)) RT On 6/29/2019 3:12 PM, Peter Martin wrote: $21 million total sale value! [1]https://www.christies.com/the-david-gilmour-guitar-28021.aspx?saleti tle= P On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 15:59, Arthur Ness <[2]arthur

[LUTE] Re: Plucking Room

2019-06-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
aren't lutenists switching to gut out of sustainophobia? RT On 6/30/2019 3:46 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote: I find that sustain is a major factor in the choice of a lute. Obviously we are not talking grand piano sustain, but an instrument with good sustain makes all the difference, especially fo

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
Well said, Ron. RT === http://rurovsky.org > On Jul 20, 2019, at 7:22 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Tristan, the various alternative temperaments may sound nice for a > narrow repertory with the excepted odd note, but musicians who > understand music and who explore the more interesting repe

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
I'm referring to the minor thirds in MT that that nauseously sound more neutral than minor. RT On 7/20/2019 12:35 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote: Yes, there are minor thirds in 1/4 comma meantone that are wider than in equal temperament and so closer to pure (they beat less)! Minor thirds in equal

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
Minor thirds get compromised, so RT On 7/20/2019 12:55 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote: ?? Le 20 juil. 2019 à 18:45, Roman Turovsky a écrit : I'm referring to the minor thirds in MT that that nauseously sound more neutral than minor. RT To get on or off this list see list informati

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
Not all tastes are created equal. RT Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Roman, "insufferable" temperament does not exist. > > All temperaments are an acquired taste - otherwise you would (and some > people surely did) think the music of Arabi

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
sometimes even with bagpipes. RT On 7/22/2019 1:59 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments. so it is not a problem there. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David va

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

2019-11-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
What is the rationale for ascribing the sitter to be Neusiedler? The painting stylistically at least a generation later than the Neusiedler's life dates. RT On 11/10/2019 11:03 AM, Wayne Cripps wrote: I posted Arthur’s picture of Melchior Newsidler at https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/l

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

2019-11-10 Thread Roman Turovsky
Neusiedler was Cranach the Younger's contemporary. The portrait in question stylistically is from the 1600's. It also doesn't look look German. RT On 11/10/2019 3:20 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Roman, what is your rationale for your stylistic argument? On 10.11.19 20:04,

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

2019-11-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
m the 1600s" for what you perceive as a style, without any explanation... :) T* On 11.11.19 04:41, Roman Turovsky wrote: Neusiedler was Cranach the Younger's contemporary. The portrait in question stylistically is from the 1600's. It also doesn't look look German. RT On 11

[LUTE] Re: Qui est l'heureux luthiste?

2019-12-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
Eduardo Eguez. RT On 12/3/2019 8:42 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: Who is the lucky lutenist in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3U1KVXku_o To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] A historical Ukrainian ballad for Theorbo

2019-12-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
[1]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/guktheorbo-E.mp3 [2]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/guktheorbo-E.pdf Still warm, for your perusal and delectation! Met vriendelijke groeten, RT -- References 1. http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/guktheorbo-E.m

[LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyone?

2020-01-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
Interestingly there are only about a dozen Milans in the whole province of Valencia, some with the accent on A, some without. I certainly wouldn't rule out Italian extraction for the character in question. The whole argument reminds me of an old epigram: "Seven cities argue over Homer's citiz

[LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyone?

2020-01-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
All of Jordi Savall's CDs have him as De M. RT On 1/5/2020 12:24 PM, Joachim Lüdtke wrote: The title page of the Libro de motes … has Luys Milan too I have not seen El Cortesano for quite a while … All best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyon

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

2020-01-07 Thread Roman Turovsky
Because they lend credence to alternatives of Antonio's postulates!))) RT On 1/6/2020 12:34 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote: Why is that? Let others do as they please. I should only be curious why they did so. Mathias __

[LUTE] Re: A historical Ukrainian ballad for Theorbo

2020-01-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
Premiered by Francesco Motta! - https://youtu.be/GUpC2dSz2X4 Amities, RT On 12/29/2019 9:58 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: [1]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/guktheorbo-E.mp3 [2]http://polyhymnion.org/swv/theorbo/images/guktheorbo-E.pdf Still warm, for your perusal and

[LUTE] Cantio Lodomerica 101

2020-01-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
[1]http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/545.mp3 [2]http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/545.pdf This is a setting of a traditional salt-merchant lament, pilfered from a recording by a great Ukrainian avantgarde singer Yuri Yosyfovych: [3]https://youtu.be/KBTBJiI46xs About the

[LUTE] Cantio Sarmatoruthenica 44 with Scott Saari

2020-05-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
[1]https://youtu.be/v0b03Dw1Jtc Enjoy! Amities, RT -- References 1. https://youtu.be/v0b03Dw1Jtc?fbclid=IwAR0iTp-DxlM2d6myojI2WfjTG3ZhC1Z5wC1VvMkjtxP_SHFBcjaOeQo-AHk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute strap

2020-05-24 Thread Roman Turovsky
And Pat strongly advocated playing standing up, with the lute close to one's chin. He also emphatically recommended looping the strap around a couple of pegs on the treble side of the pegbox: http://polyhymnion.org/swv/images/strap.jpg to prevent one's lute from facing the ceiling. RT On 5/24/202

[LUTE] Cantio Lodomerica CVIII

2020-07-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
[1]https://youtu.be/EvqQQeYfEX0 - with Scott Saari! [2]http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/552.pdf Amities, RT -- References 1. https://youtu.be/EvqQQeYfEX0?fbclid=IwAR0TUY7r-t5HAscXe65cCaYmOpkOZEpfZWvRvsq-8sz7i15szpRP__EDHWw 2. http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/552.pdf

[LUTE] Re: future of the lute

2020-08-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Better than Hollywood, we already have an indie classic by Jim Jarmusch, featuring a lute soundtrack, and the film opens with a prominent shot of a Michael Schreiner 10course. RT On 8/26/2020 8:13 PM, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Dear luters: What does the future hold

[LUTE] Full circle

2020-09-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Recently there has seen some remarkable developments: some Ukrainian musicians have discovered my Ukro-centric music, and started to adopt it and adapt it to the Ukrainian diatonic zither/psaltery, AKA the Bandura: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywW8txYy8gE [2]https://www.you

[LUTE] Re: H2 - Dm de Visee

2008-11-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
Deutsche Grammophon editors must still live in the Stone Age, 'cause they are still on Samplitude RT - Original Message - From: "alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: H2 - Dm de Visee O, with Linux the same applies, you

[LUTE] Re: H2 - Dm de Visee

2008-11-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: "alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:06:12 -0500 "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Deutsche Grammophon editors must still live in the Stone Age, 'cause they are still on Samplitude RT I doubt they do. I have it on a go

[LUTE] Re: bosnische brad pitt

2008-11-25 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8-RiLJa7Y RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: bosnische brad pitt [Scanned]

2008-11-25 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmHVj6tiIi0&feature=related RT - Original Message - From: "Silvius Leopold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Narada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lutelist" S

[LUTE] Cantio Ruthenica LXII

2008-11-25 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/228.pdf http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/228.mp3 Amitiés, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Badakhshani lutes

2008-12-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCmfZvnpl7k RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
Sasha, the world has graduated to WYSIWYG software, but Lilypond remains the domain of masochistic luddite linuxoid programmers. ^That was the gist of Rainer's comment. RT - Original Message - From: "alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc:

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
Computers must compile, not users. RT - Original Message - From: "William Brohinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "alexander" <[EMAIL PROT

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
That is exactly the problem. No one else is a programmer. RT - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users? On Thu, Dec 4, 2008, Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Was: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users? Now: playing favourites

2008-12-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
There is a definite hierarchy of software. The lute world has graduated to creating NEW lute music. And that requires all sorts of goodies you cannot have in a text editor: transpositions, midi import/export, transparency between tab and notation, transcription between different tunings, not to

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
So is Alain Veylit, Bob Clair and some other fine gentlemen. The rest of us wouldn't know the rat's derriere from LISP, C++ or VB. RT - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 200

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
'Fraid Daniel uploaded them into the Flash player by mistake, and they cannot be viewed. RT - Original Message - From: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Daniel F Heiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using m

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

2008-12-05 Thread Roman Turovsky
No such option anywhere on my screen. RT 'Fraid I viewed em. Right-click, Save file as Sean On Dec 5, 2008, at 5:52 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: 'Fraid Daniel uploaded them into the Flash player by mistake, and they cannot be viewed. RT - Original Message - From: &q

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Catterino Cavos

2008-12-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
Catterino Cavos was a Venetian composer who settled in St. Petersburg in the 1790's. Together with a poet prince Shakhovskoy he wrote a vaudeville on Ukrainian themes called "Cossack-Poet", in 1812. It became hugely popular and was staged for some 40 years. Here's a mazurka from it- http://www

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
I ran Stringwalker, Django and Fronimo on VPC until about 3 years ago. No difficulties, aside from horrendous echo in midi playback. I now keep both a Mac and a PC, for a different set of reasons. RT - Original Message - From: "Lex van Sante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute mailing list

[LUTE] Ukrainian carols

2008-12-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
For the adventurous amongst you, 3 Carols for the upcoming Holidays- ## 24, 23, 22 and 1 @ http://www.torban.org/pisni/ in the first section. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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