[LUTE] Re: [Lutelist] Purcell on the lute

There's an edition of pieces by Purcell from Tree Edition for one archlute. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Rainer Betreff: [Lutelist] Purcell on the lute

[LUTE] Re: Lautenband

Ach so, und NICHT von Ausland - tja, dann von Dieter Schossig. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Mathias Rösel Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lautenband Datum: 20.

[LUTE] Re: Lautenband

Arion straps von Tanja Skonk, die finde ich am besten. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Rainer Betreff: [LUTE] Lautenband Datum: 20. September 2020, 9:40 An:

[LUTE] Re: A trivia question

Roman, IIRC, there's a notorious fantasy in the Siena ms. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: r.turov...@gmail.com Betreff: [LUTE] A trivia question Datum: 29.

[LUTE] Re: The lute list is retiring soon

Dear Wayne, Happy retirement! This list has ever since been an integral part of my lute life. Thank you very much! Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Julian Brean has died

Mr Bream's recordings with Elizabethan songs and dances were very popular, the records were played at my parents' parties in the late seventies. I was 14 years then. Later, I was lucky enough to attend one of his recitals in Bremen. I owe him so much. And I bow with deep respect.

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi Stefan, there's another print, Novus Partus by Besard (1617), that contains music for the tiorbino. Anything that is feasible on the theorbo should also be feasible on the tiorbino, I suppose. And I love that video by Albane Imbs. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

14:08 An: Mathias Rösel Cc: 'Lutelist'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich' Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tiorbino According to the LSA database: labelled: Johannes Hieber und Andreas Pfanzelt //. Repair label: Louvet/ m (ai) tre luthier de paris à

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

ourse liuto attiorbato. I think it was Larry Brown >> who had some measurements, if I remember correctly the petit jeu is 61cm. >> >> Martin >> >> On 17/06/2020 22:37, Mathias Rösel wrote: >>> Dear David, dear Bruno, >>> thanks to both of you so much! >

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear David, dear Bruno, thanks to both of you so much! I agree that the Cleveland instrument, beautiful as it may be, seems more likely to be a small arciliuto. And I'm grateful for your pointing at MH Brussels No.1578. I shall try to get pictures and/or plans. Mathias To get on or off this

[LUTE] Tiorbino

Dear Hive Mind, Are there a surviving 17^th century tiorbinos? I poked in your archives, but couldn't seem to find hints. A tiorbino is mentioned on Steven Barber's and Sandi Harris's homepage as "one of the best and most convincing surviving examples of a tiorbino" (Hieber /

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

Göran rightly reminds me that I include the Norwegian Hardingfele as well. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: G. C. Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: Double Top Datum:

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

Göran and I agreed to share this with the list. Mathias Göran wrote: Yes, but you were envisioning some impossible contraption with the metal strings on the inside of the lute if I understood you correctly. A lute with sympathetic strings seems more plausible, although their

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

Not at all sure myself, and I don't know chapter and verse with Mersenne, as Bailes didn't quote them. In my imagination, though, it's a double soundboard with metal strings for the inside and gut strings for the outside (I have no idea how they would keep the inside metal strings in tune). The

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

Anthony Bailes mentioned Marin Mersenne, Harmonie Universelle (1636), who speaks about the possibility of building a lute with two soundboards with strings on both of them, gut strings on one, metal strings on the other (that's about resonance, I suppose). (Lute News 85, April 2008) Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale

Yes, you can use Fronimo on a mac. You may want to poke through the archives to find out how to do it. I seem to remember that there was something like emulating a pc environment for Fronimo on your mac. I am by no means a computer expert or something, but members of the list

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Antonio did not postulate. He pointed at evidence. Are you talking of "alternative facts" of the kind the current POTUS and his party buddies make use of? I seriously want to know what made someone like Jordi Savall use a name that Don Luys Milan never used. I don't suppose Savall

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Two percent equals "often"? Serious? Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Tristan von Neumann Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Milan's name Datum: 07.01.2020, 15:24 Uhr An:

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Toponymical family names are quite common among Germans, and inferentially among German Jews. Nevertheless, Don Luys Milan did not hail from Milano, or at least his name is no hint he did. Antonio brought enough evidence. And there's no evidence at all that Milan was Jewish. Also,

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Why is that? Let others do as they please. I should only be curious why they did so. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: r.turov...@gmail.com Betreff: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Dear Antonio, please rest assured, no more evidence is demanded. Don Luis Milan was and is his name, and he's not from Milano. They're making fun of it, or so is my impression. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der

[LUTE] Re: Anachronistic playing style - Adriaenssen

You might want to have a try and improvise in French baroque lute style. It's not about harmony. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Tristan von Neumann Betreff:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: thumb in or out???

I agree with Bernard. That's nice guitar playing on a strange guitar. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: David van Ooijen Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: thumb in or

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

Matthew, Not quite, probably. May I try to figure out why. Robert Ballard wrote out many doubles to his courantes, that way breaking grounds for what was later called style luthe (I omit accents for the sake of readability). One particular feature is to rhythmically dispose

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

Matthew, you're talking to Ron, I know. May I weigh in, nevertheless. Two terms spring to mind, viz. style luthé and séparé. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht ---

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

George Torres wrote an article about the impact of French verse on the making of melody in French baroque lute music. May I warmly recommend that article. George successfully sorted out the term style brisé and 17th century terms like style luthé. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

Thumb out does not rule out alternating strokes of thumb and index, p - i is feasible with thumb out as well. Even someone as late as Charles Mouton has it in his double on Gaultier's Belle Homicide, to quote just one example. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

Well, I've been a member on the list as well. As it seems to me, all authors after 1600 who deal with this subject recommend thumb out. Vallet even ridicules thumb in. We'll never know what player actually did, if they complied with the recommendations. Today, research on strings

[LUTE] Re: RH folk style

It is, indeed, although many a baroque lutenist isn't exactly religious about it. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: G. C. Betreff: [LUTE] Re: RH folk style

[LUTE] Re: octave strings

Seems to be like on the baroque guitar. Never done that on a lute. Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Lex Eisenhardt Betreff: [LUTE] octave strings Datum:

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

Never ever. There seem to be people, though, who shift their 4th frets a bit down so as to get something close to the pure major third on the 1st to 6th courses. There's no need at all to do that IMHO as long as the lute is properly tuned. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Vincent Dumestre's theorbo?

Dear Éric, The issue with these instruments d'après tableaux de Watteau offered under the name "théorbe de pièces ou angélique" is that they have eight strings on their fretboards. The instrument in Watteau's La Finette has even less, viz. six strings. Surviving music for the angélique requires

[LUTE] Re: Vincent Dumestre's theorbo?

This portrait shows him with a short, single strung, lutelike theorbo: https://youtu.be/WaRuAuE_x1o Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Tim Miller Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Mai 2019 20:42 An: Lutelist Betreff:

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

An: Mathias Rösel Cc: Lutelist Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Reymann There is a "modern" edition on the Fronimo user group archive, I guess it is accessible to Fronimo users only. It was made in 1999, the "readme" doesn't identify the author. My guess is Göran K

[LUTE] Re: Reymann

Not easy to read, c and e almost undiscernible at many places. Digitalised copies would be great help. There must be facsimile files of Reymann online somewhere, though, because I've g got one. Mathias __

[LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire

Does de Visée count (ms. Saizenay)? Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Jerzy Zak Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2019 22:43 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: theorbo repertoire Roman, Kapsperger

[LUTE] Re: Angelo Michel Bartolomi

A-ETgoëssTh contains more of Bartolotti: 18v-19 Gigue 38 Courante 38v39 Allemande 39 Sarabande 45-46 Fuga 54v Sarabande Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von yuval.dvo...@posteo.de Gesendet: Sonntag, 24.

[LUTE] Re: me:mo, an interview with Lukas Henning

.. and Stephen Hawking said something to the effect that it was not exactly smart to draw attention to us. (Mark Memmot, Apr 26, 2010, npr) https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/04/aliens_stephen_hawking.html?t=1543665336193 because there already are visitors from outside our solar

[LUTE] Fandango

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[LUTE] Re: Fronimo titles

Martin, You may want to ask the Fronimo list as well. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Martin Shepherd Gesendet: Montag, 24. September 2018 12:11 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Fronimo titles Thanks to

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

en > OT Offenwarden > Deutschland > >> Am 17.09.2018 um 21:22 schrieb Mathias Rösel : >> >> Well, it does have to do a bit with lute music. >> >> There was a theory that the music published by Le Sage de Riche >> (Breslau, 1695) was not compo

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

One correction. [Note to self: Don't quote from memory!] The respective quote about Le Sage reads as follows: "As an example of this inherited art in a bourgeois Silesian family, let us cite the Kropfganss family. The eldest, Johann Kasper, was a student of Philipp Franz Le Sage de Richee, one

[LUTE] Re: The awful English language

Well, it does have to do a bit with lute music. There was a theory that the music published by Le Sage de Riche (Breslau, 1695) was not composed by him because the author of that theory couldn't find further evidence for the existence of Le Sage. I objected that according to a

[LUTE] Re: Starting Theorbo

Sorry for misinformation, I have to correct myself: The Doni _lute_ book does not contain any music for the theorbo. It is a lute book for the 14c Arciliuto. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Starting Theorbo

Doni seems to be a good advice. But first try to get the basic idea of playing the theorbo, viz. playing with reentrant tuning. It's not the same as playing the lute. Or rather, you will easily hear when somebody actually plays the lute on a theorbo. Start playing simple scales, starting on the

[LUTE] Re: Siena Lute Book

I stand corrected. Goeran Crona contributed a lot concerning Siena on this list, but Jason Kortis is the one who copied the stuff with Fronimo and made it French. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von

[LUTE] Re: Tombeaux

> Tombeau de Mr Racquette by Denis Gaultier > Tombeau de la Racquette by Jacques Gallot Monsieur Racquette seems to have been D. Gaultier's teacher on the organ. So he seems to have been an organist in Paris. > Tombeau de Blancrocher by Denis Gaultier > Tombeau de Blancrocher by Francois

[LUTE] Re: Pacoloni

Dear Jean-Marie, not a PhD here, but I've played his trios with friends. There are so many runs in parallel fourths and even in parallel fifths that I've become suspicious these trios actually are duets with alternative second parts. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

[LUTE] Re: [Le_luth] Baroque Lute Ms Lublin Ms 1985

> Dear friends, you will be able to find a full content description + concordances on > http://mss.slweiss.de (look for PL-Lw1985) ! > Peter Steur Dear Peter, thank you so much for your tremendous work! The entry for p. 43v is faulty, though. There is no a6 in the first chord. And I beg to

[LUTE] Re: Latest book in viel ton outside Italy

Martyn, Thank you for reminding us what's relevant (and what not). May I add that I find replying merely to the list more helpful than replying to all. It may help reducing the number of messages in everybody's inbox. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] A Jena student's lute book of 1603

--=_NextPart_001_0037_01D3CB64.478457A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Collected Wisdom, Is somebody on this list familiar with “A Jena student’s lute book of 1603” (now Dresden MS M 297)? The lute book itself is

[LUTE] Re: Strange titles

Dear Rainer, These names don't seem to be real names. Look at Paduana Malsiff and Galliarda Siffmal. Rather, they might be noms de plume. It reminds me of a little research, that I did some nine yrs ago, concerning Heinrich Albert and his friends who would meet in his Kürbshütte (arbour). The

[LUTE] Re: Some questions

Erm... - yes, of course, I never meant to collect lutes for the wall. I do play them as I want to explore their respective repertoires. I don't suppose Ron wanted to cartoon non-playing collectors. Ron's point seems to be valid, nevertheless. There should be affordable lutes for players-to-be

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Angélique Music

--=_NextPart_001_0026_01D3AE8A.C12E4030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just in case somebody is interested in this beautiful instrument: Soprano-Angélique: https://youtu.be/NHxH36gTOxQ

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

Dear Jean-Marie, Let me be the first, hoping that your PC opens Fronimo files. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2018 17:51 An: Mathias Rösel; 'Baroque Lute List' Betreff: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

> And almost nobody so far has made any mention of the very beautiful > Tombeau de Mésangeau in flat tuning which appears in Rés. 6211 (f° 31v-32) Did you notice the slips of the pen for the 3rd course? There are some more lines below, slightly faded, containing music in another tuning, viz.

[LUTE] Re: String tech

Almond oil, rather. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Bruno Cognyl-Fournier Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Januar 2018 18:50 An: Leonard Williams Cc: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: String tech I believe some

[LUTE] Re: I'm confused.

ourselves a flawed argument. :) Am 18.01.2018 um 12:48 schrieb Mathias Rösel: > You can clearly tell one handwriting from another in this manuscript. There's > the major share of pieces in an older style (mano A), and additions in a > younger style (mano B, after 1650), like mutanze

[LUTE] Re: I'm confused.

You can clearly tell one handwriting from another in this manuscript. There's the major share of pieces in an older style (mano A), and additions in a younger style (mano B, after 1650), like mutanze, ceccone etc. The minuet is mano B. Read Dinko Fabris's preface in the S.P.E.S. edition.

[LUTE] Re: Stringing Question (German Lute)

The majority of these German lutes were built before WW II, when nylon hadn't yet been invented. The string material of choice was gut. I once pulled string ends and paper rags out of a lute, which had fallen inside when the strings broke. All of the string ends were gut. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

It may contain pieces from Neusidler, but there is much more in there as you can se from the first page containing an index of sorts. (Notice how the Susanne has been crossed out!) G. The Sacks Tabulaturbok is a different manuscript, containing intabulations. I was referring to

[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

It seems to be a handwritten copy of Hans Newsidler 1536 / I. The Swedish server seems to answer awkwardly slowly, when downloading the PDF file. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. C. Gesendet: Montag,

[LUTE] Re: Matanya Ophee

May I say that I was lucky enough to make his acquaintance. He was a generous man. Aharon Polak was his father (author of Al Hastumot Bamizmor, a commentary on the psalms), and Matanya's family name actually is a compound of his father's initials, as he pointed out to me. He was a pilot of the

[LUTE] Re: 40068

François Pierre Goy has a lot to say about this manuscript in his maitrise! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. C. Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Oktober 2017 21:56 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: 40068

[LUTE] Re: "Sting Effect" (was Direwolf Hall)

My daughter was eight when his CD was released. I used it as a lullaby for her. The next morning she asked about it, and I said, well, you can sing the songs you like best yourself. Children of that age can learn rapidly. Can She Excuse, and Now, Oh Now, and Come Again were her first three Dowland

[LUTE] Re: How late was Ren Lute music performed?

> The new d-minor tuning is said to have cristalized out of all those > transitional experimental tunings, for being the "best, easiest" to play. Seems to be a modern evaluation. Not my cup of tea. > Has there been any research into the when, how and why of transitional There was a splendid

[LUTE] Re: How late was Ren Lute music performed?

> Imagine it: You're a lutenist back in the day who has just gone over to the new tuning dark side. There are exciting things you can do with the new tunings, but you don't exactly have hundreds of pieces from which to choose. Even though the old pieces are a bit out of fashion stylistically,

[LUTE] Re: Building a lute - decision

The gallichon (numerous other cognates) is an instrument invented in Bohemia around 1660 to take advantage of the newly invented overwound strings - it became popular in central Europe and Northern German states. The earlier version was generally tuned with the first course at a

[LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings

Yes, hurray and three cheers to Mimmo! Love his loaded gut strings and his loaded nylgut strings. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Jean-Marie Poirier Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. August 2017 18:00 An:

[LUTE] Re: Restringing for transitional tunings

Not necessarily so (buzzing). There's a much older instruction how to retune the lute: http://www.schulze-kurz.de/Schulze-Kurz_Accords.htm I for one, as I earlier said, don't retune from vieil ton to flat tuning, but have a 12c lute strung for the flat tuning with low tension so that I can

[LUTE] Re: Restringing for transitional tunings

I never change from vieil ton to flat tuning or vice versa. My set of strings has been for Mace's flat tuning ever since (G5 E5 C5 A4 E4 B3 - A3 G3 F3 E3 D3 C3) Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Matthew

[LUTE] Re: Restringing for transitional tunings

Like Andreas, I've been playing in flat and sharp tunings with one set of strings. In order to do so, I ordered strings in very low tension. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Andreas Schlegel Gesendet:

[LUTE] Re: Ballard's 2nd book

-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Jean-Marie Poirier Gesendet: Freitag, 4. August 2017 17:46 An: Mathias Rösel Cc: LutList Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Ballard's 2nd book Mathias, it is because they are NOT in the 1614 second book of Ballard !!! Best, Jean-Marie > Le 4 août 2017 à 12

[LUTE] Re: Filippo dalla Casa

Alain, It's definitely worth the effort IMO, but that staff notation may be misleading. I was wondering quite a time about dalla Casa's book. I was suspicious that not all of it is for lute solo. Then Susanne Herre turned up with her mandolin, we played from dalla Casa, and it all suddenly made

[LUTE] Re: Ballard's 2nd book

Certainly a good edition, but the editors for whatever reason left out Robert Ballard's pieces in transitional tunings, unfortunately. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Jean-Marie Poirier Gesendet:

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

Sorry, list -- Alain, You may want to have a look to your junk folder, as your machine seems to classify my mails as junk. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Fandango

Hi Alain, Are you planning to publish an edition of Fandango that doesn't expire at a given date? I am planning an edition of music for the angélique, and versions of Fandango that expire won't help me. I should like to buy a licensed version of the software, as I did with Django. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

Dear Alain, That looks terrific! Yes, that's it! Great! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Alain Veylit Gesendet: Montag, 29. Mai 2017 21:44 An: Mathias Rösel; 'Lute net' Betreff: [LUTE] Re: tablature

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Dear Arthur, No, I have no idea, unfortunately, what his given name might have been. In 18^th century Germany, J more often than not stands for Johann(es), as you will know. Oh, and btw let me correct myself: Gumprecht was 53 yrs old at Frederick Louis's birth. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Mathias Rösel Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 21:02 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Dear Arthur, That is interesting! Thanks for that. In 1681, father and son Gumprecht wrote a letter

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Dear Arthur, That is interesting! Thanks for that. In 1681, father and son Gumprecht wrote a letter to the council of Stasburg, requesting that Jean Bethune, who was about to settle in Strasburg as an angélique teacher, be repelled from town. They seem to have been successful, as nothing is

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

are more knowledgeable than I am and might pick a better sample for checking purposes. Alain On 05/27/2017 03:28 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote: > Hi Alain, > the angélique is strung with 16 single strings. Ten are on the fretboard and > six are bourdons. The pitches are as follows: >

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Alain Veylit [mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Mai 2017 09:29 An: Mathias Rösel Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature Hi Mathias, Sounds feasible - but my German is rusty ... what was the tuning of the angelique and what is the meaning

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Organ tablature was in use for any instrument and even for singers, as it is a pitch notation. It may be much easier to expand lute tablature to the much desired tablature for the angélique (see http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Instrumente/Angelique/Angelique.html > Notation der Basschöre),

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

Yes, and for those familiar with German language: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabulatur Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Arto Wikla Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Mai 2017 15:28 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re. Theorbo music on archlute

Ask Arto Wikla. He has successfully done a lot on that field. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Anthony Hart Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2017 18:35 An: lute Betreff: [LUTE] Theorbo music on archlute Has

[LUTE] Re: Boring

Actually, I used to like his smart shows (John Oliver's) :) Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Ron Andrico Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. April 2017 20:22 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Boring I

[LUTE] Re: Latin translation

> The first line is actually Philippo Thomae Howard ordinis praedicatorum > S.R.E. Presb. Card. de Norfolcia Hiberie Anglie e Scotie Protectoris. I take that as: Philipo Thomae Howard to Philip Thomas Howard ordinis praedicatorum of the Dominican Order Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae

[LUTE] Re: Latin translation

Philipo Thomas Howard pr[a]edicatorium etc... In obsequi[i] pignus addictis[s]imus servus Jacobus de Rubeis. To Philip Thomas Howard … as pledge of obedience, [your] most obliged servant Jacobus de Rubeis. The upper line seems a little unclear to me. "To Philip Thomas Howard" would actually

[LUTE] Re: Gautier in viel ton

Yes, I agree with you, Jean-Marie. And my additional favourite hypothesis is that Ennemond's cousin, Denis, is to be held responsible for most if not all those arrangements of Ennemond's pieces in d minor tuning. As a test, I put his Belle Homicide back into the so-called ton ravissant (Goy's

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

> Indeed, and it was Mudarra himself who wrote those words concerning "false > notes" in his fantasia. I'd even be reluctant to translate "falsas" with "false notes" (Mathias, is that why you put it in quotes?) Yes. Mathias "Musica falsa" was a well established alternative term for "musica

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

> Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in ‘Forlorne Hope?” In > Alonso Mudarra’s Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: ‘There > are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well’. So it may > be an over reach to assume that unusual sounds may have a

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - A HIP score

The accompaniment for all the lute songs in Bataille's prints as from 1608 were conceived for the 10c theorboed lute with renaissance tuning in A. Mersenne explained the instrument in 1636, as explored by Ingo Negwer in his thesis in German (Laute und Theorbe in Marin Mersennes Harmonie

[LUTE] Charles Mouton / CNRS

Dear everybody, In the beginning of June I ordered Les Oeuvres de Charles Mouton from CNRS Editions. They confirmed my payment automatically and at once. On the next day, Mrs Lavaud of CNRS Editions confirmed my order and promised to deal with it asap. Two months later, in the beginning of

[LUTE] Re: Latin canon puzzle

Ave! Anyone able to shed some light on this Latin description on how to solve a canon riddle? Canon doppia consequenza. A 4. Even the Latin is a riddle to me. Sure that quitam in the 3rd line is correct? Mathias Ultimi erunt primi et primi Secundi. The last ones will be the the

[LUTE] Re: Strings for Liuto attiorbato

Dear Martin, Leonard, David, Arto, Thank you very much for your quick replies! Much appreciated! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: d...@dolcesfogato.com [mailto:d...@dolcesfogato.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. April 2016 18:06 An: 'Mathias Rösel'; 'Lute List' Betreff: RE: [LUTE

[LUTE] Strings for Liuto attiorbato

--=_NextPart_001_0026_01D198BC.2C945FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Collected Wisdom, As I’m planning the stringing of a liuto attiorbato, I’ve encountered some difficulties. It will have seven courses on the

[LUTE] Angélique and Thorough bass

Dear everybody, David van Edwards and I decided we'd share our exchange with the list. Please read from bottom upwards. Mathias Dear Mathias, Yes let's share, in fact I made a mistake and thought I WAS replying to the list! Yes, my main point was: was the Netherlands also a heavily

[LUTE] Angélique and Thorough bass

Thought I might share this with the list as well: Dear Benjamin, Thanks for your interesting article in the Lute News magazine #117 of the Lute Society. While I was reading, I stumbled upon your introductory remark that "the theorbe de pieces, like the angelique, does not seem

[LUTE] Re: Early Music Bracket

Yay, he's in the lead. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Daniel Shoskes Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 21:53 An: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Early Music Bracket Hey lutenists, how about showing SL

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