Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2015-03-02 20:33 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org: OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of start a new frame regardless of the context? See below. It would be difficult to implement

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-03-02 20:33 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org: OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of start a new frame regardless of the context? See below. It would be difficult to implement this in a generic (non-Frame-bound) way. Currently I do the following:

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2015-03-02 20:33 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org: OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of start a new frame regardless of the context? See below. It would be difficult to implement

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-03-02 20:33 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak : > OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of > "start a new frame regardless of the context"? See below. It would be difficult to implement this in a generic (non-Frame-bound) way. > Currently I do the >

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-03 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > > 2015-03-02 20:33 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak : >> >> OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of >> "start a new frame regardless of the context"? > > > See below. It would be

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Scott Kostyshak skostysh at lyx.org writes: OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of start a new frame regardless of the context? Currently I do the following: command-alternatives environment-split outer; environment-split; layout Frame FWIW, I did the following

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to add a frame before the frame Purpose of the Beamer class ? I've found two ways: 1. Place the cursor to the

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to add a frame before the frame Purpose of

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to add a frame before the frame Purpose of the Beamer class ? I've found two ways: 1. Place the cursor to the

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to add a frame before the frame Purpose of

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Scott Kostyshak skostysh at lyx.org writes: OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of start a new frame regardless of the context? Currently I do the following: command-alternatives environment-split outer; environment-split; layout Frame FWIW, I did the following

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: > Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following > is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to > add a frame before the frame "Purpose of the Beamer class" ? > > I've found two ways: > > 1. Place the cursor

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > 2015-03-01 22:07 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak: >> >> Sometimes I find it difficult to add a frame in beamer. The following >> is an example. Open examples/beamer.lyx. What is the easiest way to >> add a frame before the frame

Re: Beamer: adding a frame before another frame (but not after another frame)

2015-03-02 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Scott Kostyshak lyx.org> writes: > OK. Do you have any thoughts (don't worry if not) on the idea of > "start a new frame regardless of the context"? Currently I do the > following: > > command-alternatives environment-split outer; environment-split; layout Frame > FWIW, I did the following

Re: Beamer

2015-02-27 Thread José Matos
On Friday 27 February 2015 16:51:45 Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, How can I control the size of the font in the TOC, ie for Section, subsection? I use the Madrid package. Thank for your help. === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: Beamer

2015-02-27 Thread José Matos
On Friday 27 February 2015 16:51:45 Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, How can I control the size of the font in the TOC, ie for Section, subsection? I use the Madrid package. Thank for your help. === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: Beamer

2015-02-27 Thread José Matos
On Friday 27 February 2015 16:51:45 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > How can I control the size of the font in the TOC, ie for Section, subsection? > I use the Madrid package. > > Thank for your help. > > === > Patrick

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hi Patrick, I forgot to point out that Beamer's philosophy is NOT to use susubsections. Michael On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I also get the Subsubsection. The behavior is the same as when I ask Section

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
Berger id...@online.de To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com, lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: beamer Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
: Re: beamer Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I also get the Subsubsection. The behavior is the same as when

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I also get the Subsubsection. The behavior is the same as when I ask Section

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hi Patrick, I forgot to point out that Beamer's philosophy is NOT to use susubsections. Michael On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
Berger id...@online.de To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com, lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: beamer Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
: Re: beamer Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I also get the Subsubsection. The behavior is the same as when

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hello Patrick, On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I also get the Subsubsection. The behavior is the same as when I ask Section

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Michael Berger
Hi Patrick, I forgot to point out that Beamer's philosophy is NOT to use susubsections. Michael On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. I would like to have only the Sections and the Subsections. However, when I ask for this I

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
uot;Michael Berger" <id...@online.de> > To: "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com>, lyx <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > Subject: Re: beamer > > Hello Patrick, > > On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Whe

Re: beamer

2015-02-24 Thread Patrick Dupre
" <pdu...@gmx.com>, lyx <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > Subject: Re: beamer > > Hello Patrick, > > On 02/24/2015 06:00 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > When I use beamer I can select what I want in my TOC. > > I would like to have only the S

Re: Beamer pdf problem

2014-09-22 Thread Richard Heck
On 09/22/2014 04:04 PM, Samuel Gamtessa wrote: Hi All, Does anyone understand what this error means for beamer? !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file mathkerncmssi10): Font mathkerncmssi10 at 657 not found Could you please help me with the solution?

Re: Beamer pdf problem

2014-09-22 Thread Richard Heck
On 09/22/2014 04:04 PM, Samuel Gamtessa wrote: Hi All, Does anyone understand what this error means for beamer? !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file mathkerncmssi10): Font mathkerncmssi10 at 657 not found Could you please help me with the solution?

Re: Beamer pdf problem

2014-09-22 Thread Richard Heck
On 09/22/2014 04:04 PM, Samuel Gamtessa wrote: Hi All, Does anyone understand what this error means for beamer? !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file mathkerncmssi10): Font mathkerncmssi10 at 657 not found Could you please help me with the solution?

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
=== Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 at 12:54 AM From: Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com Cc: lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Beamer On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Beamer On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I generate a presentation with beamer and I use the overlays option. Thus I got 117 slides but only 47 pages. I would like to print the complete 47 pages

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Patrick Dupre pdupre at gmx.com writes: I can have: \column{.49\texwidth} But then, what I type goes into \column{} If I make a return then I leave the column and go back to depth 1 How can I stay in the column (standard in depth 2? Use increase depth after hitting Enter. The tool bar button

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
=== Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 at 12:54 AM From: Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org To: Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com Cc: lyx lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Beamer On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: Beamer On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I generate a presentation with beamer and I use the overlays option. Thus I got 117 slides but only 47 pages. I would like to print the complete 47 pages

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Patrick Dupre pdupre at gmx.com writes: I can have: \column{.49\texwidth} But then, what I type goes into \column{} If I make a return then I leave the column and go back to depth 1 How can I stay in the column (standard in depth 2? Use increase depth after hitting Enter. The tool bar button

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
=== > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 at 12:54 AM > From: "Scott Kostyshak" <skost...@lyx.org> > To: "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com> > Cc: lyx <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > Subject: Re

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Patrick Dupre
"Scott Kostyshak" <skost...@lyx.org> > > To: "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com> > > Cc: lyx <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> > > Subject: Re: Beamer > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre <pdu...@gmx.com> wrote: >

Re: Beamer

2014-08-21 Thread Paul A . Rubin
Patrick Dupre gmx.com> writes: > I can have: \column{.49\texwidth} > But then, what I type goes into \column{} > If I make a return then I leave the column and go back to depth 1 > How can I stay in the column (standard in depth 2? Use "increase depth" after hitting Enter. The tool bar button

Re: Beamer

2014-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I generate a presentation with beamer and I use the overlays option. Thus I got 117 slides but only 47 pages. I would like to print the complete 47 pages and not the 117 slides. How can I do it? Hi Patrick, Try

Re: Beamer

2014-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote: Hello, I generate a presentation with beamer and I use the overlays option. Thus I got 117 slides but only 47 pages. I would like to print the complete 47 pages and not the 117 slides. How can I do it? Hi Patrick, Try

Re: Beamer

2014-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > I generate a presentation with beamer and I use the overlays option. > Thus I got 117 slides but only 47 pages. > I would like to print the complete 47 pages and not the 117 slides. > How can I do it? Hi Patrick,

Re: Beamer/color

2014-08-13 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 16:36:22 Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Why the vertical space is changed when I set formulas in color? See attached files for comparison. Thank Not much of a help but I found this while searching: macros - How to color math symbols? - TeX - LaTeX Stack ...

Re: Beamer/color

2014-08-13 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 16:36:22 Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, Why the vertical space is changed when I set formulas in color? See attached files for comparison. Thank Not much of a help but I found this while searching: macros - How to color math symbols? - TeX - LaTeX Stack ...

Re: Beamer/color

2014-08-13 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 16:36:22 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > Why the vertical space is changed when I set formulas in color? > See attached files for comparison. > > Thank Not much of a help but I found this while searching: macros - How to color math symbols? - TeX - LaTeX Stack ...

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Benedict Holland
Is is possible to install a 2.1 version? There are a ton of bug fixes between 2.0.X and a 2.1.X version. If that doesn't work, you might not have the beamer file installed but I would try upgrading first. http://www.lyx.org/Download ~Ben On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mikhail Salganik

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
This typically indicates that the Beamer LaTeX package is either not installed or not properly on the LaTeX search path. Have you installed it under MiKTeX (assuming that's what you are using)?

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Benedict Holland
Is is possible to install a 2.1 version? There are a ton of bug fixes between 2.0.X and a 2.1.X version. If that doesn't work, you might not have the beamer file installed but I would try upgrading first. http://www.lyx.org/Download ~Ben On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mikhail Salganik

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
This typically indicates that the Beamer LaTeX package is either not installed or not properly on the LaTeX search path. Have you installed it under MiKTeX (assuming that's what you are using)?

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Benedict Holland
Is is possible to install a 2.1 version? There are a ton of bug fixes between 2.0.X and a 2.1.X version. If that doesn't work, you might not have the beamer file installed but I would try upgrading first. http://www.lyx.org/Download ~Ben On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Mikhail Salganik

Re: Beamer and Lyx

2014-07-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
This typically indicates that the Beamer LaTeX package is either not installed or not properly on the LaTeX search path. Have you installed it under MiKTeX (assuming that's what you are using)?

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do is issue a couple of returns.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim doesn't. Perhaps it should?) Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not. Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. Let me stress, in case it has

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me if

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought that by saying it was a Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do is issue a couple of returns.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim doesn't. Perhaps it should?) Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not. Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. Let me stress, in case it has

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me if

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought that by saying it was a Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: > You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for > the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment > and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do > is issue a couple of

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment and I want to get out of it into the

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: > Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list > environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim > doesn't. Perhaps it should?) > Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: > We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that > should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new > criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. > Let me stress, in case it

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the > 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
> > Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the > previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to > go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: > Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster > for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: > I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my > academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing > of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by "no need" to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the "Frame". I thought that by saying it was a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/07/2014 08:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a Frame, but instead to revert to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow to make a bullet chart. I was talking about the Standard paragraph, not Itemize. Insert sep. Hit return. Select Frame Fill in Title oops - return in title does nothing, navigate past title (right

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Now you have Frame inside Frame. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? If I look at Help/Shortcuts, I don't see it (or am I blind?) I wish lyx had a way to discover things like emacs does. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: After arrow right,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:38 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Well, you know that you only need to nest paragraphs of a different layout. This is the case for _any_ LyX paragraph layout. So why would you

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