Re: Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux
> Le 18/04/2024 à 16:59, Christopher Menzel a écrit : >>> Maybe you need enchant (default on debian), it uses different spell >>> checkers. >>> >> Thank you for the suggestion. I finally got the bright idea of looking >> through the configure script for relevant flags and found >> “--with-included-hunspell”. Apparently, by default the script looks for an >> installed version of hunspell instead of using the version that’s included >> in the distribution and, for some reason, it wasn’t able to find my >> installed version of hunspell. But configuring with the above flag did the >> trick. My document is now nicely littered with wavy red underlines (as >> desired!). :-) > > Hi, > > To compile with support for the installed hunspell, you need to install the > libhunspell-dev package. Hm, I don’t have libhunspell-dev installed but I definitely have spellchecking support and Hunspell now shows up as the spellchecker in Preferences. -chris -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux
Le 18/04/2024 à 16:59, Christopher Menzel a écrit : Maybe you need enchant (default on debian), it uses different spell checkers. Thank you for the suggestion. I finally got the bright idea of looking through the configure script for relevant flags and found “--with-included-hunspell”. Apparently, by default the script looks for an installed version of hunspell instead of using the version that’s included in the distribution and, for some reason, it wasn’t able to find my installed version of hunspell. But configuring with the above flag did the trick. My document is now nicely littered with wavy red underlines (as desired!). :-) Hi, To compile with support for the installed hunspell, you need to install the libhunspell-dev package. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux
> Maybe you need enchant (default on debian), it uses different spell checkers. > Thank you for the suggestion. I finally got the bright idea of looking through the configure script for relevant flags and found “--with-included-hunspell”. Apparently, by default the script looks for an installed version of hunspell instead of using the version that’s included in the distribution and, for some reason, it wasn’t able to find my installed version of hunspell. But configuring with the above flag did the trick. My document is now nicely littered with wavy red underlines (as desired!). :-) -chris > Am 17.04.24 um 5:41 PM schrieb Christopher Menzel: >> I have compiled LyX 2.4-RC4 under Kali Linux and it works great but I am >> unable to spellcheck. Tools → Spellchecker is greyed out and LyX sees >> no spellchecker engine under Preferences → Spellchecker. Hunspell and >> the English dictionary are of course installed. I found an old thread >> saying that Hunspell support had to be explicitly included at configure >> time, but I believe Hunspell is now built in. At any rate, the old >> “—use-hunspell” option is not recognized. Spellchecking via Hunspell >> works fine in the MacOS version of RC4. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux
Maybe you need enchant (default on debian), it uses different spell checkers. Am 17.04.24 um 5:41 PM schrieb Christopher Menzel: I have compiled LyX 2.4-RC4 under Kali Linux and it works great but I am unable to spellcheck. Tools → Spellchecker is greyed out and LyX sees no spellchecker engine under Preferences → Spellchecker. Hunspell and the English dictionary are of course installed. I found an old thread saying that Hunspell support had to be explicitly included at configure time, but I believe Hunspell is now built in. At any rate, the old “—use-hunspell” option is not recognized. Spellchecking via Hunspell works fine in the MacOS version of RC4. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux
Gentle LyX folk: I have compiled LyX 2.4-RC4 under Kali Linux and it works great but I am unable to spellcheck. Tools → Spellchecker is greyed out and LyX sees no spellchecker engine under Preferences → Spellchecker. Hunspell and the English dictionary are of course installed. I found an old thread saying that Hunspell support had to be explicitly included at configure time, but I believe Hunspell is now built in. At any rate, the old “—use-hunspell” option is not recognized. Spellchecking via Hunspell works fine in the MacOS version of RC4. Help/explanations much appreciated! Apologies if I’ve missed a relevant discussion. Chris Menzel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck>SOLVED
Have you installed either ispell, hunspell or aspell yet? Enchant can use any of them, I think. (I'm on Linux Mint, and I use enchant + aspell, for what it's worth.) You should be able to install whichever you choose, plus appropriate dictionaries, using the Debian package manager (apt? synaptic?). I don't think you need to install from source. Paul Thanks all who helped me with the spellchecking. I do have enchant (Debian bullseye) and in enchant/which is in ~/.config/enchant$ de_DE.dic de_DE.exc de.dic de.exc en_GB.dic en_GB.exc en_US.dic en_US.exc I found the added personal dictionary in en_GB.dic So, all is well Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
On 11/14/20 3:38 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang Wolfgang, Have you installed either ispell, hunspell or aspell yet? Enchant can use any of them, I think. (I'm on Linux Mint, and I use enchant + aspell, for what it's worth.) You should be able to install whichever you choose, plus appropriate dictionaries, using the Debian package manager (apt? synaptic?). I don't think you need to install from source. Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Baris Erkus informed me regarding: Re: Spellcheck on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 23:03:15 +0300 > On 15-Nov-20 10:57 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > > > > > Am 14.11.20 um 23:47 schrieb Charlie: > >> > >> Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: Spellcheck on > >> Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:56:43 +0100 > >> > >>> Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: > >>>> On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > >>>>>> I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking > >>>>>> in the help files of LyX. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking > >>>>>> It says: > >>>>>> With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired > >>>>>> language. The number of these packages vary depending on the > >>>>>> Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, > >>>>>> hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 > >>>>>> (Thursday, June 25, 2020) > >>>>>> Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ > >>>>>> User directory: ~/.lyx/ > >>>>>> Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 > >>>>>> Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 > >>>>>> (and I am using Debian Bullseye) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. > >>>>>> It is in ./.config/enchant > >>>>>> but there is no hunspell, e.g. > >>>>>> It is mentioned to get it from > >>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > >>>>>> > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > >>>>>> > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for pointers > >>>>>> Wolfgang > >>>>> > >>>>> I found this > >>>>> https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware > >>>>> and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. > >>>>> > >>>>> So my remaining question is > >>>>> how do I get a personal spellchecker > >>>>> > >>>>> Wolfgang > >>>> > >>>> You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as > >>>> correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text > >>>> files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. > >>> Thanks, Baris. > >>> I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can > >>> save to it. But how do I find this one? > >>> Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) > >>> Wolfgang > >>>> > >>>> If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, > >>>> rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those > >>>> files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. > >>> -- > >>> lyx-users mailing list > >>> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > >>> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > >> > >> > >> Replied thus: > >> > >> Wolgang, > >> > >> Debian Bullseye > >> > >> ~/.config/enchant might be what you want. > >> > >> Charlie > >> > >> > >> East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. > >> http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ > >> > > enchant: > > de_DE.dic de_DE.exc de.dic de.exc en_GB.dic en_GB.exc > > en_US.dic en_US.exc > > > > > > wolfgang@Fuji:~/.config$ cat en_GB.dic > > cat: en_GB.dic: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden > > > > ?? > > > > Wolfgang > > Am I missing smtg here? You need to be in the "/.config/enchant/" > folder, not "/.config" folder. > > -- > ↓↓ > Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: Replied thus: That is correct, On my Debian Bullseye system I find: en.dict en_AU.dict en_AU.exe en_GB.dict en_GB.exe And others. Not all have my added words in them, some of these files are empty. I think the GB Great Britain and US, USA dicts are when I used a different language and entered my own words and spellings. > > de_DE.dic de_DE.exc de.dic de.exc en_GB.dic en_GB.exc > > en_US.dic en_US.exc Maybe if you open these files you may find the words and the "in use" dictionary you seek? Hope that helps, Charlie East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** What upsets people is not things themselves, but their judgements about these things. -- Epictetus *** Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed. - -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
On 15-Nov-20 10:57 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 23:47 schrieb Charlie: Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: Spellcheck on Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:56:43 +0100 Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. Thanks, Baris. I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can save to it. But how do I find this one? Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) Wolfgang If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users Replied thus: Wolgang, Debian Bullseye ~/.config/enchant might be what you want. Charlie East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ enchant: de_DE.dic de_DE.exc de.dic de.exc en_GB.dic en_GB.exc en_US.dic en_US.exc wolfgang@Fuji:~/.config$ cat en_GB.dic cat: en_GB.dic: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden ?? Wolfgang Am I missing smtg here? You need to be in the "/.config/enchant/" folder, not "/.config" folder. -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Am 14.11.20 um 23:47 schrieb Charlie: Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: Spellcheck on Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:56:43 +0100 Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. Thanks, Baris. I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can save to it. But how do I find this one? Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) Wolfgang If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users Replied thus: Wolgang, Debian Bullseye ~/.config/enchant might be what you want. Charlie East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ enchant: de_DE.dic de_DE.exc de.dic de.exc en_GB.dic en_GB.exc en_US.dic en_US.exc wolfgang@Fuji:~/.config$ cat en_GB.dic cat: en_GB.dic: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden ?? Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: Spellcheck on Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:56:43 +0100 > Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: > > On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > >> > >> > >> Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: > >>> I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in > >>> the help files of LyX. > >>> > >>> In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking > >>> It says: > >>> With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired > >>> language. The number of these packages vary depending on the > >>> Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, > >>> hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. > >>> > >>> In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 > >>> (Thursday, June 25, 2020) > >>> Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ > >>> User directory: ~/.lyx/ > >>> Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 > >>> Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 > >>> (and I am using Debian Bullseye) > >>> > >>> there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. > >>> It is in ./.config/enchant > >>> but there is no hunspell, e.g. > >>> It is mentioned to get it from > >>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > >>> > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > >>> > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? > >>> > >>> Thanks for pointers > >>> Wolfgang > >> > >> I found this > >> https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware > >> and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. > >> > >> So my remaining question is > >> how do I get a personal spellchecker > >> > >> Wolfgang > > > > You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as > > correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text > > files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. > Thanks, Baris. > I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can save > to it. But how do I find this one? > Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) > Wolfgang > > > > If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, > > rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those > > files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. > > > -- > lyx-users mailing list > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users Replied thus: Wolgang, Debian Bullseye ~/.config/enchant might be what you want. Charlie East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc.. http://www.egwildlife.com.au/ -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Wealth consists not in having great possessions, but in having few wants. ---Epictetus *** Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed. - -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
On 14-Nov-20 4:56 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. Thanks, Baris. I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can save to it. But how do I find this one? Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) Wolfgang Does "But how do I find this one?" mean, you want to find the the ".dict" text file that includes the added words and its location? Under windows, the file is located in the user directory, which is usually located at: C:\Users\-username\AppData\Roaming\LyX2.3\ Under Linux, I believe it is also in the folder where all the user and LyX settings are kept. But Maybe others can help? Maybe you can do a quick "where" under Linux to find the file? Hope I got your question correctly. -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Am 14.11.20 um 14:26 schrieb Baris Erkus: On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. Thanks, Baris. I see, by clicking ADD I get the personal spellchecker and can save to it. But how do I find this one? Mind you, I am under Linux (Debian) Wolfgang If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
On 14-Nov-20 3:19 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang You can tell LyX to record the words that will be recognized as correct by "Add to personal dictionary" . These are saved as text files in the personal folder with a name e.g. pwl_english.dict. If you want to use a new dictionary with .dic and .aff files, rather than the default dictionary files, you should place those files to \resources\dicts\ folder of LyX. -- ↓↓ Please bottom-post. Start your reply here: -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Am 14.11.20 um 09:38 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang I found this https://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware and it states that enchant calls other spellcheckers. So my remaining question is how do I get a personal spellchecker Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Spellcheck
I haven't found a more detailed description for spellchecking in the help files of LyX. In the User Guide 6.14 Spell Checking It says: With Linux one needs to install the packages for the desired language. The number of these packages vary depending on the Linux distribution, but in most cases these are aspell-xx, hunspell-xx, myspell-xx, etc., where xx is the language code. In my LyX Version 2.3.5.2 (Thursday, June 25, 2020) Library directory: /usr/share/lyx/ User directory: ~/.lyx/ Qt Version (run-time): 5.14.2 Qt Version (compile-time): 5.14.2 (and I am using Debian Bullseye) there is only enchant as the spellchecker engine listed. It is in ./.config/enchant but there is no hunspell, e.g. It is mentioned to get it from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/files/hunspell/ > Where do I place it (and other spellcheckers) > And how do I get a personal spellchecker invoked? Thanks for pointers Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Spellcheck
Den 2011-04-21 14:15:33 skrev Helena Sandström : Hello, My name is Helena and I have just started using Lyx. When I install it the spell check dictionary for swedish and english is missing. How can I get around that problem? Thank you Helena Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The contents of this e-mail message (including any attachments) are confidential to and are intended to be conveyed for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed only. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify the sender of this immediately and delete the message from your system. Any distribution, reproduction or use of this message by someone other than recipient is not authorized and may be unlawful. Hej Helena! Nice with another Swede on the list! I think it will be easier to help you if you tell us what OS and version of LyX you have installed. There are some differences how dictionaries are managed. Påvel
Spellcheck
Hello, My name is Helena and I have just started using Lyx. When I install it the spell check dictionary for swedish and english is missing. How can I get around that problem? Thank you Helena Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. The contents of this e-mail message (including any attachments) are confidential to and are intended to be conveyed for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed only. If you receive this transmission in error, please notify the sender of this immediately and delete the message from your system. Any distribution, reproduction or use of this message by someone other than recipient is not authorized and may be unlawful.
Re: no spellcheck in lyx2.0beta3
On Friday 28 January 2011 18:15:15 Neal Becker wrote: > José Matos wrote: > > On Friday 28 January 2011 16:03:05 Neal Becker wrote: > >> I'm using lyx-2.0.0-0.11.beta3.fc14.x86_64 > >> on fedora 14. I just noticed tools/spell check is grayed out. > >> > >> What is needed? I tried reconfig. > > > > I suspect that we need to pass some option to configure when compiling > > lyx. > > > > That task is in my todo list for F-14 and F-15 (rawhide). Unfortunately I > > am busy at the moment trying to get the marking of all exams and > > assignments. :-( > > I needed to choose enchant for spell check. Strangely, it was not > defaulted even though it's the only choice. The strange part is that both enchant and hunspell are chosen as build requirements in the spec file. The log file at http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/lyx/2.0.0/0.11.beta3.fc14/data/logs/x86_64/build.log shows ... checking hunspell/hunspell.hxx usability... yes checking hunspell/hunspell.hxx presence... yes checking for hunspell/hunspell.hxx... yes checking for main in -lhunspell... no checking whether to use hunspell... no ... Could it be because the linker can not find libhunspell.so? $ rpm -ql hunspell-devel ... /usr/lib64/libhunspell-1.2.so /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/hunspell.pc ... I running out of time for the moment... :-( -- José Abílio
Re: no spellcheck in lyx2.0beta3
José Matos wrote: > On Friday 28 January 2011 16:03:05 Neal Becker wrote: >> I'm using lyx-2.0.0-0.11.beta3.fc14.x86_64 >> on fedora 14. I just noticed tools/spell check is grayed out. >> >> What is needed? I tried reconfig. > > I suspect that we need to pass some option to configure when compiling lyx. > > That task is in my todo list for F-14 and F-15 (rawhide). Unfortunately I am > busy at the moment trying to get the marking of all exams and assignments. :-( > I needed to choose enchant for spell check. Strangely, it was not defaulted even though it's the only choice.
Re: no spellcheck in lyx2.0beta3
On Friday 28 January 2011 16:03:05 Neal Becker wrote: > I'm using lyx-2.0.0-0.11.beta3.fc14.x86_64 > on fedora 14. I just noticed tools/spell check is grayed out. > > What is needed? I tried reconfig. I suspect that we need to pass some option to configure when compiling lyx. That task is in my todo list for F-14 and F-15 (rawhide). Unfortunately I am busy at the moment trying to get the marking of all exams and assignments. :-( -- José Abílio
no spellcheck in lyx2.0beta3
I'm using lyx-2.0.0-0.11.beta3.fc14.x86_64 on fedora 14. I just noticed tools/spell check is grayed out. What is needed? I tried reconfig.
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
Am 07.12.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Tuesday 07 December 2010 01:33:03 Stephan Witt wrote: >> Am 07.12.2010 um 00:18 schrieb Richard Heck: >>> On 12/06/2010 06:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >>>> On Monday 06 December 2010 17:18:33 Paul Rubin wrote: >>>> >>>> With what will they replace the personal dictionary in LyX 2.0? >>> >>> I believe the intention is to manage the personal dictionary internally, >>> though I am not the one doing this work. It is your namesake, Stephan >>> Witt ;-). The main motivation is that the various backends we use aren't >>> at all consistent in how they handle adding and removing words, and some >>> of them don't even support removal. There's also the issue with >>> persistence, which you seem to have experienced. So doing it all inside >>> LyX, as far as the personal dictionary goes, makes sense. >> >> That's a good summary of my work, thanks. :-) >> >> The current state for LyX 2.0 beta2 is a working internal personal >> dictionary at a fixed location inside your LyX users directory. Now >> adding and removing of words works for me with aspell and hunspell with >> the internal personal dictionary on Linux and Mac OS X (Windows I couldn't >> test). >> >> Next I want to make the location of the personal dictionary more flexible. >> >> For LyX 1.6.9 I'll have a look at #6688 - I didn't see it earlier. >> As I understand it the path to personal dictionary is used in 1.6.x for >> ispell (and external aspell?) only. And of course one should be able to >> clear the input field and save that. This should be fixed now with the next stable release. BTW, the removal of the path to personal dictionary file was not my doing. The feature was implemented for ispell and external aspell only and together with the support for external aspell it was removed. > Hi Stephan, > > Thanks! > > Am I reading you correctly that the LyX internal dictionary is just a file? > If > so, is it a file I can add to and subtract from with a text editor or a perl > script? Yes, but the "file format" is not that mature. I didn't expect such "big audience" for it. Currently it's as simple as one header line and one line per word with utf-8 charset. After your question I'll make it more formal and will document it in place. > You mention you want to make the personal dictionary location more flexible. > Sounds good to me. Let me ask you something -- besides being able to set it > in > Tools->Configure, would it be possible for you to add it on a per-document > basis? > It might be as simple as adding a special comment to the document: > > # LYX_PERSONAL_DICTIONARY=/home/slitt/books/thrive/thrive.pws > > and then being able to edit it from a Document->Settings, and recognize it > when running spellcheck. The document's personal dictionary, if it exists, > would override the Tools->Configure based personal dictionary. > The benefit of this is every document has words that belong to it, but these > words would be wrong in another document. Names of characters in a fiction > book come to mind instantly, but there could also be special acronyms for a > special technology, etc. > > Does that sound doable? I'm not sure about the concrete incarnation of that feature. Doable is not the question - how to do it right is. That doesn't mean I don't like it... See the post from Julien: > Am 07.12.2010 um 20:52 schrieb Julien Rioux: > > You might even be able to store the private list of words itself in the LyX > document, > instead of storing a pointer to an external file. This would solve the problems when you exchange the document with co-workers. But perhaps, exactly this is not wanted - I'm not sure. What do you think? The biggest problem with this idea is the LyX file format change. After 2.0 release it will remain fixed AFAIK - and this means the feature will be a target for the 2.1 cycle. We want to get 2.0 out soon. Stephan
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
On 07/12/2010 1:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote: It might be as simple as adding a special comment to the document: # LYX_PERSONAL_DICTIONARY=/home/slitt/books/thrive/thrive.pws and then being able to edit it from a Docuemnt->Settings You might even be able to store the private list of words itself in the LyX document, instead of storing a pointer to an external file. -- Julien
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
On Tuesday 07 December 2010 01:33:03 Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 07.12.2010 um 00:18 schrieb Richard Heck: > > On 12/06/2010 06:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > >> On Monday 06 December 2010 17:18:33 Paul Rubin wrote: > >>> Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: > >>>> 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! > >>> > >>> There's a ticket about #2 in the bug tracker (#6688 -- I filed it), and > >>> I just saw a status update on it recently. Apparently the personal > >>> dictionary entry is going away in LyX 2.0, so the bug won't need to be > >>> fixed. > >> > >> With what will they replace the personal dictionary in LyX 2.0? > > > > I believe the intention is to manage the personal dictionary internally, > > though I am not the one doing this work. It is your namesake, Stephan > > Witt ;-). The main motivation is that the various backends we use aren't > > at all consistent in how they handle adding and removing words, and some > > of them don't even support removal. There's also the issue with > > persistence, which you seem to have experienced. So doing it all inside > > LyX, as far as the personal dictionary goes, makes sense. > > That's a good summary of my work, thanks. :-) > > The current state for LyX 2.0 beta2 is a working internal personal > dictionary at a fixed location inside your LyX users directory. Now > adding and removing of words works for me with aspell and hunspell with > the internal personal dictionary on Linux and Mac OS X (Windows I couldn't > test). > > Next I want to make the location of the personal dictionary more flexible. > > For LyX 1.6.9 I'll have a look at #6688 - I didn't see it earlier. > > As I understand it the path to personal dictionary is used in 1.6.x for > ispell (and external aspell?) only. And of course one should be able to > clear the input field and save that. > > Stephan Hi Stephan, Thanks! Am I reading you correctly that the LyX internal dictionary is just a file? If so, is it a file I can add to and subtract from with a text editor or a perl script? You mention you want to make the personal dictionary location more flexible. Sounds good to me. Let me ask you something -- besides being able to set it in Tools->Configure, would it be possible for you to add it on a per-document basis? It might be as simple as adding a special comment to the document: # LYX_PERSONAL_DICTIONARY=/home/slitt/books/thrive/thrive.pws and then being able to edit it from a Docuemnt->Settings, and recognize it when running spellcheck. The document's personal dictionary, if it exists, would override the Tools->Configure based personal dictionary. The benefit of this is every document has words that belong to it, but these words would be wrong in another document. Names of characters in a fiction book come to mind instantly, but there could also be special acronyms for a special technology, etc. Does that sound doable? Tahnks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
Am 07.12.2010 um 00:18 schrieb Richard Heck: > On 12/06/2010 06:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Monday 06 December 2010 17:18:33 Paul Rubin wrote: >>> Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! >>> There's a ticket about #2 in the bug tracker (#6688 -- I filed it), and I >>> just saw a status update on it recently. Apparently the personal >>> dictionary entry is going away in LyX 2.0, so the bug won't need to be >>> fixed. >> With what will they replace the personal dictionary in LyX 2.0? >> > I believe the intention is to manage the personal dictionary internally, > though I am not the one doing this work. It is your namesake, Stephan Witt > ;-). The main motivation is that the various backends we use aren't at all > consistent in how they handle adding and removing words, and some of them > don't even support removal. There's also the issue with persistence, which > you seem to have experienced. So doing it all inside LyX, as far as the > personal dictionary goes, makes sense. That's a good summary of my work, thanks. :-) The current state for LyX 2.0 beta2 is a working internal personal dictionary at a fixed location inside your LyX users directory. Now adding and removing of words works for me with aspell and hunspell with the internal personal dictionary on Linux and Mac OS X (Windows I couldn't test). Next I want to make the location of the personal dictionary more flexible. For LyX 1.6.9 I'll have a look at #6688 - I didn't see it earlier. As I understand it the path to personal dictionary is used in 1.6.x for ispell (and external aspell?) only. And of course one should be able to clear the input field and save that. Stephan
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
On 12/06/2010 06:06 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 06 December 2010 17:18:33 Paul Rubin wrote: Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! There's a ticket about #2 in the bug tracker (#6688 -- I filed it), and I just saw a status update on it recently. Apparently the personal dictionary entry is going away in LyX 2.0, so the bug won't need to be fixed. With what will they replace the personal dictionary in LyX 2.0? I believe the intention is to manage the personal dictionary internally, though I am not the one doing this work. It is your namesake, Stephan Witt ;-). The main motivation is that the various backends we use aren't at all consistent in how they handle adding and removing words, and some of them don't even support removal. There's also the issue with persistence, which you seem to have experienced. So doing it all inside LyX, as far as the personal dictionary goes, makes sense. Richard
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
On Monday 06 December 2010 17:18:33 Paul Rubin wrote: > Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: > > 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! > > There's a ticket about #2 in the bug tracker (#6688 -- I filed it), and I > just saw a status update on it recently. Apparently the personal > dictionary entry is going away in LyX 2.0, so the bug won't need to be > fixed. With what will they replace the personal dictionary in LyX 2.0? Thanks STeveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
(self-reply ... never a good sign) My bad. The bug is _not_ fixed in 1.6.7; you can modify the path but you cannot delete it from the preferences menu. (You can manually edit the configuration file to get rid of it.) /Paul
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: > 1) At least as relates to storing new words in the personal dictionary, my > LyX > 1.6.4 ignores the personal dictionary at Tools->Settings->Spellchecker- > >Personal_dictionary. > > 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! > There's a ticket about #2 in the bug tracker (#6688 -- I filed it), and I just saw a status update on it recently. Apparently the personal dictionary entry is going away in LyX 2.0, so the bug won't need to be fixed. In any case, changing the entry seems to work okay in 1.6.7, so an upgrade my help. /Paul
Re: Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
On 12/06/2010 01:50 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I just spellchecked a 108,000 word book (371 pages), so I have an immediate familiarity with the task under LyX. Here are some of my findings: Lots and lots of work has been done on the spellchecker for 2.0. I'm not completely up to date on the most recent changes, but some of them address some of these problems. Richard
Questions and suggestions for spellcheck
Hi all, I just spellchecked a 108,000 word book (371 pages), so I have an immediate familiarity with the task under LyX. Here are some of my findings: 1) At least as relates to storing new words in the personal dictionary, my LyX 1.6.4 ignores the personal dictionary at Tools->Settings->Spellchecker- >Personal_dictionary. 2) I set it, removed it, and then it came back. Ugh! 3) Checking "Accept Compound Words" appeared to do nothing, although I don't know what it's supposed to do. 4) Spellchecker always flags plurals of words ending in s, such as "peoples' problems" or "all the buildings' furnaces" -- anything ending in an aposterphe. However, when you send that word to the personal dictionary, it doesn't go in. 5) When you change something at Tools->Settings->Spellchecker- >Personal_dictionary, it's hard to say what needs to be done in order that it take effect. It thus presents as an intermittent. Detailed documentation is needed. 6) YMMV, but I could get only aspell to work with LyX -- ispell and hspell errored out. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
Am 06.12.2010 um 06:16 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Monday 06 December 2010 00:09:15 Steve Litt wrote: >> On Sunday 05 December 2010 22:33:07 Paul Rubin wrote: >>> Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: >>> >>> . >>> I think I found a personal dictionary at $HOME/.aspell.en.pws. That sound about right? >>> >>> Yes, that's it. >>> Upon finishing the book, I'll just save a copy of that in the book directory, and use symlinks if I ever want to use it again. That sound reasonable? >>> >>> Or just use Tools > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker > >>> Personal dictionary to point to whatever word list you care to use for a >>> given project -- seems easier to me. >>> >>> /Paul >> >> Now that I know it exists, it IS easier. Thanks Paul -- that's exactly the >> question I was trying to get answered. >> >> SteveT > > You know what would be a really kewl LyX enhancement? If besides the LyX > personal dictionary setting you point out in your response, there could be a > per-document personal dictionary that, if present, overrides the LyX personal > dictionary. It could go under Document->Settings->Language and could include > the spellchecker choice and compound words etc. How cool would that be? The idea is not completely new. The upcoming LyX 2.0 would not provide that feature and there is some discussion of the concrete solution needed. The biggest question I have is: do per document dictionary settings imply to store the dict words there too? For both answers - yes and no - I can find valid arguments. What do you think? BTW, the ability to control the location of the personal dictionary somehow is lost in LyX 2.0 - I see, it's a useful feature and I'll put it on my TODO list. Stephan
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
On Monday 06 December 2010 00:09:15 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sunday 05 December 2010 22:33:07 Paul Rubin wrote: > > Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: > > > > . > > > > > I think I found a personal dictionary at $HOME/.aspell.en.pws. That > > > sound about right? > > > > Yes, that's it. > > > > > Upon finishing the book, I'll just save a copy of that in the > > > book directory, and use symlinks if I ever want to use it again. That > > > sound reasonable? > > > > Or just use Tools > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker > > > Personal dictionary to point to whatever word list you care to use for a > > given project -- seems easier to me. > > > > /Paul > > Now that I know it exists, it IS easier. Thanks Paul -- that's exactly the > question I was trying to get answered. > > SteveT You know what would be a really kewl LyX enhancement? If besides the LyX personal dictionary setting you point out in your response, there could be a per-document personal dictionary that, if present, overrides the LyX personal dictionary. It could go under Document->Settings->Language and could include the spellchecker choice and compound words etc. How cool would that be? SteveET Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
On Sunday 05 December 2010 22:33:07 Paul Rubin wrote: > Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: > > . > > > I think I found a personal dictionary at $HOME/.aspell.en.pws. That sound > > about right? > > Yes, that's it. > > > Upon finishing the book, I'll just save a copy of that in the > > book directory, and use symlinks if I ever want to use it again. That > > sound reasonable? > > Or just use Tools > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker > > Personal dictionary to point to whatever word list you care to use for a > given project -- seems easier to me. > > /Paul Now that I know it exists, it IS easier. Thanks Paul -- that's exactly the question I was trying to get answered. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
Steve Litt troubleshooters.com> writes: . > > I think I found a personal dictionary at $HOME/.aspell.en.pws. That sound > about right? Yes, that's it. > Upon finishing the book, I'll just save a copy of that in the > book directory, and use symlinks if I ever want to use it again. That sound > reasonable? Or just use Tools > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker > Personal dictionary to point to whatever word list you care to use for a given project -- seems easier to me. /Paul
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
On Sunday 05 December 2010 19:56:59 Julien Rioux wrote: > On 05/12/2010 7:51 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Where is the LyX spellcheck word list kept? I'd like to maintain a > > distinct list for each book, so that character names don't trigger. > > > > Thanks > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt > > Recession Relief Package > > http://www.recession-relief.US > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt > > Which OS? > > On windows I found them in > C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Aspell\Personal Oops, bad questioner :-) Yeah, I have Ubuntu Linux 9.10. Obviously I should have said so. I think I found a personal dictionary at $HOME/.aspell.en.pws. That sound about right? Upon finishing the book, I'll just save a copy of that in the book directory, and use symlinks if I ever want to use it again. That sound reasonable? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: Where is the spellcheck word list kept?
On 05/12/2010 7:51 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Where is the LyX spellcheck word list kept? I'd like to maintain a distinct list for each book, so that character names don't trigger. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt Which OS? On windows I found them in C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Aspell\Personal -- Julien
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Sven Hoexter wrote: > Sure see the attached german one. Yes, I see it now. And I found out which bug fix caused this (fix for #6217). Jürgen
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:52:09PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Hi, > Can you please report this as LyX bug? Done: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6708 Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:28:59PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Round one: > Catches "Deis", correct it to "Dies", next word detected is "eni". > > Round two: > Ignore "Deis", next word detected is "istt". Thanks to xvidcap I could even create a short demo video (1.5MB). http://sven.stormbind.net/lyx/spellchecklyx.mpeg Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Am 20.05.2010 20:28, schrieb Sven Hoexter: I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could you post a test file? Sure see the attached german one. Round one: Catches "Deis", correct it to "Dies", next word detected is "eni". Now I can reproduce it too. It only occurs after one corrected a word. When ignoring "Deis", "istt" is correctly detected as next misspelled word. Can you please report this as LyX bug? thanks and regards Uw
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:05:48PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Sven Hoexter wrote: > > it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word. > > Am I the only one seeing this? > > I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could > you > post a test file? Sure see the attached german one. Round one: Catches "Deis", correct it to "Dies", next word detected is "eni". Round two: Ignore "Deis", next word detected is "istt". Similar for the rest of the document. Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep] newfile1.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Sven Hoexter wrote: > it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word. > Am I the only one seeing this? I don't see this (and I cannot imagine what could have caused this). Could you post a test file? Jürgen
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 20.05.2010 19:01, schrieb Hal Kierstead: > >> Actually, I think the problem may be that it fails to check the next word >> after it finds a misspelled word. > > As said, I cannot reproduce that with LyX 1.6.6 on Windows. Here every > misspelled word is correctly recognized. And I cannot reproduce it on Mac. BH
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Am 20.05.2010 19:01, schrieb Hal Kierstead: Actually, I think the problem may be that it fails to check the next word after it finds a misspelled word. As said, I cannot reproduce that with LyX 1.6.6 on Windows. Here every misspelled word is correctly recognized. regards Uwe
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
I have this problem on my Mac. Hal On May 20, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Hi, > it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word. > Am I the only one seeing this? > > Running on Debian/sid with aspell aswell as enchant. > > Sven > -- > If God passed a mic to me to speak > I'd say stay in bed, world > Sleep in peace > [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Am 20.05.2010 18:14, schrieb Sven Hoexter: it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word. Am I the only one seeing this? I don't see this on Windows with Aspell. regards Uwe
Spellcheck in 1.6.6 misses every second word
Hi, it seems to me that the spellcheck in LyX 1.6.6 misses every second word. Am I the only one seeing this? Running on Debian/sid with aspell aswell as enchant. Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: Spellcheck: alternative language
Peter wrote: > I tried to install the spellcheck function in lyx on my Windows VISTA and > got it working for the English language. But it just won't work for other > languages although the dictionaries are installed. > I went to Tools - Preferences - Spellchecker and I typed in the > Alternative language field: de (for german) The "alternative language" is not for additional languages but for very specific cases where the dictionary name of the main document language differs from what LyX expects (such as "deutsch" instead of "german"). Did you set the correct language for your document (or for the respective passages) in either Document > Settings > Language (main language) or Edit > Text Style > Customized ... > Language (for passages)? Jürgen
Spellcheck: alternative language
Hi, I tried to install the spellcheck function in lyx on my Windows VISTA and got it working for the English language. But it just won't work for other languages although the dictionaries are installed. I went to Tools - Preferences - Spellchecker and I typed in the Alternative language field: de (for german) Lyx found my de-common.multi file - that is for sure, since I once changed it to de-comm.multi and Lyx gave me an error message (as expected). So, typing "de" in the alternative language DOES have the effect that Lyx needs my German dictionary, but it DOES NOT have the effect that it also uses it. That is the problem. Lyx always uses the English dictionary no matter what I type in as a alternative language (I also tried it out with French and Spanish). After hours of uninstalling, installing and googling I am really frustrated. Could you please help me? Best regards Peter
Re: spellcheck error in windows version
katesfb wrote: > > Hi, > Have been using Lyx on a linux environment and think its great. Have also > started using it recently on a windows system and have found that the > spell checker comes up with the following error: > > "the spell checker could not be started, no word lists can be found for > the language en_US" > > What is the fix for this? Any help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Richard > I too have the same problem... John -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/spellcheck-error-in-windows-version-tp1468741p3676772.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Spellcheck error
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Joshua Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > I'm using LyX 1.6.0 on OS X 10.5.5. When I spell check, I like to add words > to the dictionary. However, the words are never saved once I close the > spellcheck window. > > How can one get them to save? If you're using cocoAspell, you should tell LyX to store the personal dictionary in ~/Library/Spelling/. Thus, go to LyX > Preferences > Language Settings > Spellchecker, and in the "Personal dictionary" field enter something like: ~/Library/Spelling/mydictionary After that it should work. Bennett
Spellcheck error
To whom it may concern, I'm using LyX 1.6.0 on OS X 10.5.5. When I spell check, I like to add words to the dictionary. However, the words are never saved once I close the spellcheck window. How can one get them to save? Thanks, Daniel Stark Graduate Student Rice University, MS-61 Physics and Astronomy Dell Butcher Hall 100 1900 Rice Blvd., Ent. 20 Houston TX 77005 USA Ph: +1-713-348-3126 Fx: +1-713-348-2603 In physics, you don't have to go around making trouble for yourself - nature does it for you. - Frank Wilczek I think physicists are the Peter Pans of the human race. They never grow up and they keep their curiosity. - Isidor Isaac Rabi
spellcheck error in windows version
Hi, Have been using Lyx on a linux environment and think its great. Have also started using it recently on a windows system and have found that the spell checker comes up with the following error: "the spell checker could not be started, no word lists can be found for the language en_US" What is the fix for this? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/spellcheck-error-in-windows-version-tp1468741p1468741.html Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Problem with spellcheck
Enrique Saint Pierre wrote: I moved all files in "C:\Aspell" to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell" and now it works! Good. But your dictionary from the Aspell Windows site is probably outdated. I'd recommend you to download the latest one from http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Aspell6 . Regards, Joost
Re: Problem with spellcheck
Enrique Saint Pierre wrote: In fact, in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell" there is not a "Data" directory nor a *.kbd file. This means that Aspell is not properly installed. Can you try to download LyX 1.5.6 and reinstall? Joost I moved all files in "C:\Aspell" to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell" and now it works! Thanks, Enrique St. Pierre.
Re: Problem with spellcheck
Enrique Saint Pierre wrote: In fact, in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell" there is not a "Data" directory nor a *.kbd file. This means that Aspell is not properly installed. Can you try to download LyX 1.5.6 and reinstall? Joost
Re: Problem with spellcheck
Hi Joost: I downloaded and installed Aspell 6 spanish dictionary. Now I get the following error message: The file "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell\Data/standard.kbd" can not be opened for reading In fact, in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\Aspell" there is not a "Data" directory nor a *.kbd file. Regards, Enrique Saint Pierre. - Original Message - From: "Joost Verburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Problem with spellcheck Enrique Saint-Pierre wrote: Hi: I have LyX 1.5.5 running in Windows XP, but the spellchecker doesn't work. I get the message The spellchecker could not be started. no word list can be found for the Language "es_ES" I reinstalled Aspell-0.50.3 and aspell-es-0.50-2-3. Now it is under C:\Aspell, but this not solve the problem. Thanks in advance for any help, Enrique S. This is an old Aspell dictionary that won't work. You can download dictionaries at http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Aspell6 Joost
Re: Problem with spellcheck
Enrique Saint-Pierre wrote: Hi: I have LyX 1.5.5 running in Windows XP, but the spellchecker doesn't work. I get the message The spellchecker could not be started. no word list can be found for the Language "es_ES" I reinstalled Aspell-0.50.3 and aspell-es-0.50-2-3. Now it is under C:\Aspell, but this not solve the problem. Thanks in advance for any help, Enrique S. This is an old Aspell dictionary that won't work. You can download dictionaries at http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Aspell6 Joost
Re: Problem with spellcheck
It didn't work either. Thanks any way, - Original Message - From: Erez Yerushalmi To: Enrique Saint-Pierre Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Problem with spellcheck did you try tools>reconfigure??? erez On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Enrique Saint-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi: I have LyX 1.5.5 running in Windows XP, but the spellchecker doesn't work. I get the message The spellchecker could not be started. no word list can be found for the Language "es_ES" I reinstalled Aspell-0.50.3 and aspell-es-0.50-2-3. Now it is under C:\Aspell, but this not solve the problem. Thanks in advance for any help, Enrique S. _ -- Erez Yerushalmi PhD Student Warwick University, UK http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/2ndyear/yerushalmi
Problem with spellcheck
Hi: I have LyX 1.5.5 running in Windows XP, but the spellchecker doesn't work. I get the message The spellchecker could not be started. no word list can be found for the Language "es_ES" I reinstalled Aspell-0.50.3 and aspell-es-0.50-2-3. Now it is under C:\Aspell, but this not solve the problem. Thanks in advance for any help, Enrique S. _
Re: Ignore All Button in SpellCheck doesn't work
wangyq wrote: > Currently I am working on a paper with lyx. I found that Ignore All Button in > SpellCheck doesn't work. > For example KMV is incorrect in dictionary, while it is correct in my paper. > I want the lyx's spellcheck just ignore all KMV words. Unfortunately the > Ignore All button in spellcheck window doesn't work. > Works fine for me. You'll need to give more details (OS, LyX version, which spell checker you're using, ...). /Paul
Ignore All Button in SpellCheck doesn't work
Currently I am working on a paper with lyx. I found that Ignore All Button in SpellCheck doesn't work. For example KMV is incorrect in dictionary, while it is correct in my paper. I want the lyx's spellcheck just ignore all KMV words. Unfortunately the Ignore All button in spellcheck window doesn't work. Many thanks! 2008-08-26 wangyq
Re: Spellcheck for Lyx
""Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unbuntu 7.10 > Lyx 1.5.1 Normally, the spellchecker should just zork with the F7 key. You may have however to install aspell dictionaries for the relevant languages (with names like aspell-fr for French, for example).
Re: Spellcheck for Lyx
Unbuntu 7.10 Lyx 1.5.1 FN 2008/8/13 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ""Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Please, could someone tell me how to install a good spellchecker for Lyx? >> I'm a non-techie would appreciate any help. FN > > It depends n the system you use... > > JMarc > -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: Spellcheck for Lyx
""Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please, could someone tell me how to install a good spellchecker for Lyx? > I'm a non-techie would appreciate any help. FN It depends n the system you use... JMarc
Spellcheck for Lyx
Please, could someone tell me how to install a good spellchecker for Lyx? I'm a non-techie would appreciate any help. FN PS: Used Lyx to create these books: http://books.google.com/books?q=goa1556&btnG=Search+Books Two printed and being commercially sold, the third an e-book. -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: Problem with Spellcheck
Hi, Herumor wrote: > Shortly, when I open a document like the help guide the spell checking > works and I get a window popping out and staying in place. When I create > a new document and write something like "Hello world" I cannot see any > window popping out or it appears and then disappears very very fast (I > cannot even see what is written inside). "Hello world" is correct spelling, so all that should appear is a message box telling you "2 words checked". Probably this message box is hidden behind the main window. Is this the case? OTOH LyX 1.5.2 (and earlier) has a bug where the first word is skipped when the spellchecker is run for a second time. So you should see a flashing spell checker window on "Hello Worldd", but the spellchecker should stop at the second word when the new document contains "Helllo Worldd". This bug will be fixed in LyX 1.5.3. If it's none of these two issues, then we need more details. Jürgen
RE: Problem with Spellcheck
Hello, I'm resuming this as I've had this exact problem with Mac OS 10.4 (tiger) for a long time. Shortly, when I open a document like the help guide the spell checking works and I get a window popping out and staying in place. When I create a new document and write something like "Hello world" I cannot see any window popping out or it appears and then disappears very very fast (I cannot even see what is written inside). How is this thing supposed to be fixed? I have tried installing cocoaspell, aspell and aspell via fink and I always have this issue. Pls help me, I really need this feature. It's pretty useful when you write a documentation. RE: Problem with Spellcheck Deskins, Nathaniel A Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:54:27 -0800 Hmmm...just a follow-up on this issue. I've had the same problem on another computer. Both are running Windows XP, service pack 2. At home, however, I was able to get Lyx to spellcheck fine with no problems. I can't recall the OS, but I don't think it's service pack 2 of XP (service pack 3?). Anyways, the spellchecker seems installed fine, because I can spellcheck the Help documents with no problems. It's only when I try new documents does the spellchecker stop working. Aaron -Original Message- From: Deskins, Nathaniel A Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:54 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Problem with Spellcheck I'm just starting to use Lyx and am running into a problem with the spellchecker (aspell). I've tried to get it to work with versions 1.4.1, 1.4.5.1, and 1.5.2, all full-bundled installs. All give the same problem. This is for a windows XP machine. When the initial file (splash.lyx) pops up, I can click on Tools-> Spellchecker and the spellcheck seems to run fine. It finds a misspelling (DVI) right off. If I create a new document, then try to run spellchecker, the spellcheck page pops up for a second, then disappears. If I try to run spellchecker again, no window pops up. I've even tried copying the splash.lyx text to a new document and trying to get spellchecker to work, but the spellchecker gives the same problem. It seems only to occur with new documents, since I can still run spellchecker on splash.lyx. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? Thank you, Aaron
RE: Problem with Spellcheck
Hmmm...just a follow-up on this issue. I've had the same problem on another computer. Both are running Windows XP, service pack 2. At home, however, I was able to get Lyx to spellcheck fine with no problems. I can't recall the OS, but I don't think it's service pack 2 of XP (service pack 3?). Anyways, the spellchecker seems installed fine, because I can spellcheck the Help documents with no problems. It's only when I try new documents does the spellchecker stop working. Aaron -Original Message- From: Deskins, Nathaniel A Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:54 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Problem with Spellcheck I'm just starting to use Lyx and am running into a problem with the spellchecker (aspell). I've tried to get it to work with versions 1.4.1, 1.4.5.1, and 1.5.2, all full-bundled installs. All give the same problem. This is for a windows XP machine. When the initial file (splash.lyx) pops up, I can click on Tools-> Spellchecker and the spellcheck seems to run fine. It finds a misspelling (DVI) right off. If I create a new document, then try to run spellchecker, the spellcheck page pops up for a second, then disappears. If I try to run spellchecker again, no window pops up. I've even tried copying the splash.lyx text to a new document and trying to get spellchecker to work, but the spellchecker gives the same problem. It seems only to occur with new documents, since I can still run spellchecker on splash.lyx. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? Thank you, Aaron
Problem with Spellcheck
I'm just starting to use Lyx and am running into a problem with the spellchecker (aspell). I've tried to get it to work with versions 1.4.1, 1.4.5.1, and 1.5.2, all full-bundled installs. All give the same problem. This is for a windows XP machine. When the initial file (splash.lyx) pops up, I can click on Tools-> Spellchecker and the spellcheck seems to run fine. It finds a misspelling (DVI) right off. If I create a new document, then try to run spellchecker, the spellcheck page pops up for a second, then disappears. If I try to run spellchecker again, no window pops up. I've even tried copying the splash.lyx text to a new document and trying to get spellchecker to work, but the spellchecker gives the same problem. It seems only to occur with new documents, since I can still run spellchecker on splash.lyx. Is this a bug, or am I doing something wrong? Thank you, Aaron
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
As Gabriel García Márquez, the great Columbian Nobel prize winner, once said: Jubilemos la ortografía, terror del ser humano. Let us retire spelling, terror of the human being from the cradle. On 8/13/07, Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stefano Baroni wrote: > > I do not like on the fly spellcheck either (among other nuisances, it > > forces me to change the default language everytime I switch from one > > language to another). However: 1) when writing short letters it may be > > useful; 2) I do not think it is a good idea to tell people what they > > should like and what they shouldn't. Just an opinion ... > What they like is up to them. But I teach writing, so I think I get to > tell people what helps with writing and what does not. > > rh > > SB > > > > On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > > > >> Sam Lewis wrote: > >>>> Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in > >>>> response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly > >>>> wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't > >>>> obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you > >>>> think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on > >>>> writing. But to each his or her own. > >>>> > >>> Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously > >>> reconsidering my > >>> understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to > >>> think that > >>> focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of > >>> letters, rather > >>> than assuming that this something to do with "style". > >>> > >> No offense intended. But the point is an important one, anyway. I > >> actually do think that paying too much attention to the order of the > >> letters impedes writing. If I'm trying to write a paragraph and know > >> I'm going to change it half a dozen times (at least), why do I care > >> whether each word has been spelled correctly? That's clean-up, to be > >> done once I've got the damn thing moderately stable. (That's why I > >> still write so much with pen and paper, because it's the only way I > >> know to really get rid of ALL the distractions.) Writing is hard, and > >> I am firmly convinced that the tools we have grown accustomed to do > >> not make our lives easier. Those bad habits are hard to unlearn, > >> especially if you're not even aware you've got them. > >> > >> If I'm just writing a letter, then maybe that's different, but even > >> then I'm not sure, actually. > >>> Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that > >>> perhaps the > >>> boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. > >>> Also, of > >>> course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings > >>> of letters > >>> which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes > >>> utterly > >>> pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, > >>> this is > >>> exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not > >>> very clever) > >>> example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be > >>> much > >>> distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a > >>> continually > >>> indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a > >>> basic feature. > >>> > >> Maybe this is true of some documents, and maybe it'd be nice at some > >> very late stage of the game, when you're just doing clean-up. But I > >> just offer the suggestion that a continual indication of the status > >> of a document that is very much in flux is worse than useless. > >> > >> Richard > >> > >> --== > >> Richard G Heck, Jr > >> Professor of Philosophy > >> Brown University > >> http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ > >> == > >> Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de > >> Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC > >> Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: > >> http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto > > > > --- > > Stefano Baroni - SISSA & DEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center - > > Trieste > > [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) / stefanobaroni (skype) > > > > Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments > > Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > -- > == > Richard G Heck, Jr > Professor of Philosophy > Brown University > http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ > == > Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de > Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC > Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: > http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto > > -- - Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
I think improving the already existing (and fairly improvable) spellchecker is more important than adding a new one. Adding missing features like "Replace All" (see feature request at http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3914 ) would notably improve the workflow in LyX with, I dare say, much less effort than implementing on-the-fly spellchecking. Right now, I sometimes have to write the text in a separate editor and use LyX for formatting because correcting often-misspelled words (usual for non-native English speakers that get UK ad American spellings mixed up, for example) is quite awkward, time-consuming and error-prone. - Urtzi - -- Urtzi Jauregi Fakulteta za Matematiko in Fiziko, Univerza v Ljubljani Jadranska 19, Si-1000 Ljubljana Slovenija Tel: ++386 01 540 13 53 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nicely phrased! I think it should be added somewhere to the wiki, although > I don't know where. Perhaps a page discussing the focus/purpose/idea of > LyX and WYSIWYM? Any ideas of where? > > I'm thinking that such a page would be a good reference when explaining > what LyX is about. > > /C > > > Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the > > boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. How about here? http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Introduction#toc1 Perhaps there could be link in that section to a page on "focus/purpose/idea". I'll see what I can do, later. Cheers, Sam
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
Richard, lets agree to differ for the time being and see how resources can be best used for continuing the project in a meaningful way. Cheers, Sam
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
Stefano Baroni wrote: I do not like on the fly spellcheck either (among other nuisances, it forces me to change the default language everytime I switch from one language to another). However: 1) when writing short letters it may be useful; 2) I do not think it is a good idea to tell people what they should like and what they shouldn't. Just an opinion ... What they like is up to them. But I teach writing, so I think I get to tell people what helps with writing and what does not. rh SB On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Richard Heck wrote: Sam Lewis wrote: Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his or her own. Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously reconsidering my understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to think that focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of letters, rather than assuming that this something to do with "style". No offense intended. But the point is an important one, anyway. I actually do think that paying too much attention to the order of the letters impedes writing. If I'm trying to write a paragraph and know I'm going to change it half a dozen times (at least), why do I care whether each word has been spelled correctly? That's clean-up, to be done once I've got the damn thing moderately stable. (That's why I still write so much with pen and paper, because it's the only way I know to really get rid of ALL the distractions.) Writing is hard, and I am firmly convinced that the tools we have grown accustomed to do not make our lives easier. Those bad habits are hard to unlearn, especially if you're not even aware you've got them. If I'm just writing a letter, then maybe that's different, but even then I'm not sure, actually. Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. Also, of course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings of letters which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes utterly pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, this is exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not very clever) example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be much distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a continually indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a basic feature. Maybe this is true of some documents, and maybe it'd be nice at some very late stage of the game, when you're just doing clean-up. But I just offer the suggestion that a continual indication of the status of a document that is very much in flux is worse than useless. Richard --== Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto --- Stefano Baroni - SISSA & DEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center - Trieste [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) / stefanobaroni (skype) Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
I do not like on the fly spellcheck either (among other nuisances, it forces me to change the default language everytime I switch from one language to another). However: 1) when writing short letters it may be useful; 2) I do not think it is a good idea to tell people what they should like and what they shouldn't. Just an opinion ... SB On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Richard Heck wrote: Sam Lewis wrote: Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his or her own. Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously reconsidering my understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to think that focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of letters, rather than assuming that this something to do with "style". No offense intended. But the point is an important one, anyway. I actually do think that paying too much attention to the order of the letters impedes writing. If I'm trying to write a paragraph and know I'm going to change it half a dozen times (at least), why do I care whether each word has been spelled correctly? That's clean-up, to be done once I've got the damn thing moderately stable. (That's why I still write so much with pen and paper, because it's the only way I know to really get rid of ALL the distractions.) Writing is hard, and I am firmly convinced that the tools we have grown accustomed to do not make our lives easier. Those bad habits are hard to unlearn, especially if you're not even aware you've got them. If I'm just writing a letter, then maybe that's different, but even then I'm not sure, actually. Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. Also, of course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings of letters which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes utterly pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, this is exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not very clever) example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be much distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a continually indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a basic feature. Maybe this is true of some documents, and maybe it'd be nice at some very late stage of the game, when you're just doing clean-up. But I just offer the suggestion that a continual indication of the status of a document that is very much in flux is worse than useless. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto --- Stefano Baroni - SISSA & DEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center - Trieste [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) / stefanobaroni (skype) Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
Sam Lewis wrote: Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his or her own. Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously reconsidering my understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to think that focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of letters, rather than assuming that this something to do with "style". No offense intended. But the point is an important one, anyway. I actually do think that paying too much attention to the order of the letters impedes writing. If I'm trying to write a paragraph and know I'm going to change it half a dozen times (at least), why do I care whether each word has been spelled correctly? That's clean-up, to be done once I've got the damn thing moderately stable. (That's why I still write so much with pen and paper, because it's the only way I know to really get rid of ALL the distractions.) Writing is hard, and I am firmly convinced that the tools we have grown accustomed to do not make our lives easier. Those bad habits are hard to unlearn, especially if you're not even aware you've got them. If I'm just writing a letter, then maybe that's different, but even then I'm not sure, actually. Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. Also, of course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings of letters which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes utterly pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, this is exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not very clever) example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be much distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a continually indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a basic feature. Maybe this is true of some documents, and maybe it'd be nice at some very late stage of the game, when you're just doing clean-up. But I just offer the suggestion that a continual indication of the status of a document that is very much in flux is worse than useless. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re: On the fly spellcheck?
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Sam Lewis wrote: Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his or her own. Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously reconsidering my understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to think that focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of letters, rather than assuming that this something to do with "style". Nicely phrased! I think it should be added somewhere to the wiki, although I don't know where. Perhaps a page discussing the focus/purpose/idea of LyX and WYSIWYM? Any ideas of where? I'm thinking that such a page would be a good reference when explaining what LyX is about. /C Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. Also, of course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings of letters which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes utterly pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, this is exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not very clever) example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be much distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a continually indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a basic feature. Hope this makes sense. Thank you for your patience with me on bringing this point across. Cheers, Sam -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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> Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in > response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and > painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously > wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want > it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his > or her own. Thanks Richard for the discursive effort! I'm seriously reconsidering my understanding of WYSIWYG and its typesetting counterpart. I used to think that focusing on writing means also paying attention to the order of letters, rather than assuming that this something to do with "style". Either way, one thing for sure out of this discussion is that perhaps the boundaries between "style" and "mere writing" are not as clear cut. Also, of course, if your texts consists of many formula or a mass of strings of letters which are not in your dictionary, a on the fly spellcheck becomes utterly pointless (yes distracting!) and should be switched off. However, this is exactly what I was trying to say with my (in hindsight probably not very clever) example of "humanities" writing. For some people, there might not be much distraction (in form of occasional wavily lines), but rather a continually indication of your document writing status, which I consider is a basic feature. Hope this makes sense. Thank you for your patience with me on bringing this point across. Cheers, Sam
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John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On 8/12/07, Fernando Roig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Instead of on-the-fly spellchecking, did anybody think about implmenting grammar checking (not necessarily on-the-fly)? I think that this could be a much interesting feature. I thought about it: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyX-GrammarChecker This tool works fairly well under Linux. It "should" also work under windows if Cygwin is installed, but it appears not to. It "should" work on MacOS X if Perl is installed, but I haven't tried that recently.. I've thought of getting this tool into LyX. However, this would involve rewriting it into C++. For me it is actually more convenient as an external Perl script, because that way I can maintain it would out having to recompile LyX, or even restart LyX. Yes but by converting it to C++, you could have some help maintaining it ;-) Another option is to convert it to python as it is deeply required in LyX. This was, you could still maintain it easily and it can be integrated with LyX. Abdel.
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On 8/12/07, Fernando Roig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Instead of on-the-fly spellchecking, did anybody think about > implmenting grammar checking (not necessarily on-the-fly)? I think > that this could be a much interesting feature. I thought about it: http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyX-GrammarChecker This tool works fairly well under Linux. It "should" also work under windows if Cygwin is installed, but it appears not to. It "should" work on MacOS X if Perl is installed, but I haven't tried that recently.. I've thought of getting this tool into LyX. However, this would involve rewriting it into C++. For me it is actually more convenient as an external Perl script, because that way I can maintain it would out having to recompile LyX, or even restart LyX. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted PhD Student University of Western Australia
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On Sunday 12 August 2007 17:34:38 Steve Litt wrote: > > All I can tell you is the guy from my LUG who wanted on-the-fly BTW, how did that go? -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, music, geek sitcom etc.
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On Sunday 12 August 2007 12:58, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > All I can tell you is the guy from my LUG who wanted on-the-fly > > spellchecking is a techogeek supreme, probably as likely to document in > > vi (Vim is too touchy feely). He uses fvwm because fvwm2 is too bloated, > > Icewm is a monument to bloat, and he probably thinks KDE and Gnome came > > out of an Ira Levin distopia (Stepford Desktops). The guy also has an IQ > > three standard deviations east of genius. > > > > He tried LyX after my presentation at the LUG, and said it "has > > possibilities". If he adopted LyX, that would impress a lot of people. > > Or scare them off, because they'd conclude you have to be the Stephen > Hawking of software to use it? ;-) They'd never conclude that, because they know I use it. I'm the Bart Simpson of software! ;-) SteveT
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Steve Litt wrote: All I can tell you is the guy from my LUG who wanted on-the-fly spellchecking is a techogeek supreme, probably as likely to document in vi (Vim is too touchy feely). He uses fvwm because fvwm2 is too bloated, Icewm is a monument to bloat, and he probably thinks KDE and Gnome came out of an Ira Levin distopia (Stepford Desktops). The guy also has an IQ three standard deviations east of genius. He tried LyX after my presentation at the LUG, and said it "has possibilities". If he adopted LyX, that would impress a lot of people. Or scare them off, because they'd conclude you have to be the Stephen Hawking of software to use it? ;-)
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On Sunday 12 August 2007 10:22, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Rather, I think instant spellcheck distracts from the process of > >> writing. > > > > +1 > > I'm happy to just run spellcheck at the end, but I'm not sure this > discussion is on point. Assuming that a significant number of users > want it on-the-fly (enough to motivate some developer to tackle it), > there would just need to be an option to enable/disable it and everyone > would (hypothetically) be satisfied. Yes, it must be disablable. All I can tell you is the guy from my LUG who wanted on-the-fly spellchecking is a techogeek supreme, probably as likely to document in vi (Vim is too touchy feely). He uses fvwm because fvwm2 is too bloated, Icewm is a monument to bloat, and he probably thinks KDE and Gnome came out of an Ira Levin distopia (Stepford Desktops). The guy also has an IQ three standard deviations east of genius. He tried LyX after my presentation at the LUG, and said it "has possibilities". If he adopted LyX, that would impress a lot of people. SteveT
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On Sunday 12 August 2007 04:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Well, for what it's worth, I'm a humanist, and so is JMarc, one of the > >> lead developers. > > > > Me? Was that intended as some kind of insult? ;=) > > If you aren't an engineer, you're a humanist? ;-) No, a humorist ;=) SteveT
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Paul A. Rubin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather, I think instant spellcheck distracts from the process of writing. +1 I'm happy to just run spellcheck at the end, but I'm not sure this discussion is on point. Assuming that a significant number of users want it on-the-fly (enough to motivate some developer to tackle it), there would just need to be an option to enable/disable it and everyone would (hypothetically) be satisfied. Of course. And anyone who wants to code this can do so. This was in response to the suggestion that LyX lacked this incredibly wonderful and painfully obvious feature. My point was that it isn't obviously wonderful. Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that, if you think you want it, you're either wrong or not very focused on writing. But to each his or her own. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
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Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Well, for what it's worth, I'm a humanist, and so is JMarc, one of the lead developers. Me? Was that intended as some kind of insult? ;=) Whoops. Sorry. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
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Instead of on-the-fly spellchecking, did anybody think about implmenting grammar checking (not necessarily on-the-fly)? I think that this could be a much interesting feature. Fernando Citando "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm happy to just run spellcheck at the end, but I'm not sure this discussion is on point. Assuming that a significant number of users want it on-the-fly (enough to motivate some developer to tackle it), there would just need to be an option to enable/disable it and everyone would (hypothetically) be satisfied. /Paul
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather, I think instant spellcheck distracts from the process of writing. +1 I'm happy to just run spellcheck at the end, but I'm not sure this discussion is on point. Assuming that a significant number of users want it on-the-fly (enough to motivate some developer to tackle it), there would just need to be an option to enable/disable it and everyone would (hypothetically) be satisfied. /Paul
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you aren't an engineer, you're a humanist? ;-) Bu I don't like people, I can't be an humanist! JMarc
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Richard Heck wrote: Rather, I think instant spellcheck distracts from the process of writing. +1 /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Well, for what it's worth, I'm a humanist, and so is JMarc, one of the lead developers. Me? Was that intended as some kind of insult? ;=) If you aren't an engineer, you're a humanist? ;-) /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 21:15 +0100, Grahame Blackwood wrote: > On Saturday 11 August 2007 19:06:49 Richard Heck wrote: > > Rather, I think > > instant spellcheck distracts from the process of writing. > > I agree with this. A spell checker highlighting in some way, anything it does > not understand, is most distracting and too easily breaks the thread of > thought. Much better, in my view to treat spell checking as a separate task. > That way you can do a global rejection of any offered correction of something > that is actually exactly what you wanted, or perhaps, add something to your > personal dictionary. I concur with this totally. Furthermore, most of what I write using LyX is technical in nature. The yapping of a spell-checker would be bothersome and accelerate my descent into insanity. John O'Gorman > > Cheers > > G > > > >
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> I agree with this. A spell checker highlighting in some way, anything it does > not understand, is most distracting and too easily breaks the thread of > thought. Both sides have their (good) reasons to like/dislike this feature. LyX will certainly provide an option to turn this feature on or off, if it will be provided. Cheers, Bo
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On Saturday 11 August 2007 19:06:49 Richard Heck wrote: > Rather, I think > instant spellcheck distracts from the process of writing. I agree with this. A spell checker highlighting in some way, anything it does not understand, is most distracting and too easily breaks the thread of thought. Much better, in my view to treat spell checking as a separate task. That way you can do a global rejection of any offered correction of something that is actually exactly what you wanted, or perhaps, add something to your personal dictionary. Cheers G
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This has been on bugzilla for some time - cast your vote for implementation :) http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=718 On 8/11/07, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, for what it's worth, I'm a humanist, and so is JMarc, one of the > > lead developers. > > Me? Was that intended as some kind of insult? ;=) > > I think Juergen is you man. > > JMarc >
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Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, for what it's worth, I'm a humanist, and so is JMarc, one of the > lead developers. Me? Was that intended as some kind of insult? ;=) I think Juergen is you man. JMarc
