of curiosity? What are you trying to do?
If you want to write something to share with other OSX users, you should
generally be able to just use a regular script -- the only real issue to
think about is being compatible with Perl 5.6 for pre-Panther users.
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?) problems...
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works pretty well.
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be vulnerable to
web server worms in the same way that unpatched Outlook clients allow for
all the mail worms we se all the time. But I'm sure it can be done Right.
Oh well. That Internet died a long time ago, didn't it?
Tim Berners-Lee must be disappointed, at least on some level...
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AOL /
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who is actually rather enjoying watching the list descend
into silly-land so long as it doesn't go on beyond today.
know!
/ntk
And the *really* smart thing is not to jeopardy-post/top-post.
That's just *rude* :)
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On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Conrad Schilbe wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Chris Devers wrote:
Did you try typing
o conf urllist push ftp://myurl/
?
ftp://myurl/ is not an actual uri. It's telling you Put _your_ uri
here.
Right, of course :)
I guess I should have been clearer, but I
.
If that doesn't work -- and it probably will, but just in case -- then cut
and paste the full output from your shell into an email to the list, and
people here can take a look at where things are going wrong.
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out in the first place, and it had been standard
for five years before 10.2/Jaguar came out.
If it's not on your Mac, your Mac is broken.
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Library.xml
That should be most or all of it, but a `find ~ | grep -i itunes` would be
more thorough.
Not sure about a Perl approach; I'd just make a tarball, personally.
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of this.
After a reboot, try the suggestions from earlier about purging
documentation, localization directories, developer apps, etc.
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too used to running osx on old macs with tiny, cramped hard drives
will give a good,
quick shot of wiggle room, and then from there he can try cleaning out
files he doesn't need, backing up to cds, etc.
Nuking the devtools won't get him anywhere with CPAN :)
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a useful (and under-publicized?) capability of the standard MySQL client,
so maybe bringing it up will still be of use to someone...
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Database Programming with Perl:
http://www.perl.com/lpt/a/2003/10/23/databases.html
DBI perldoc
http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/lib/DBI.html
Actual paper book, _Programming the Perl DBI_
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perldbi/
Go read :)
and on that note, time to go...
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/row
row
author_namemay/author_name
/row
/resultset
Is this along the lines of what you were hoping for?
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entrenched in the past 30 years or so;
XML has been a big buzzword for about 5.
I don't think databases are going to go away any time soon;
I'm not yet convinced that XML isn't a flash in the pan.
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, David Cantrell wrote:
Amusingly, this message also triggered the broken software.
Funny, my message yesterday didn't trigger it.
Maybe it's someone that just subscribed?
That or someone just thinks you're Evil, and need to be tortured :)
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on this may save a lot of pain.
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Your definition of segment here is vague; is
it safe to ignore that and just accept that a
canonical list of each language's 'segments' is
a static thing that is already stored as hash
keys?
By segment I mean
expat-shlibs
And then CPAN (or whatever) should be able to install XML::Parser as
normal, if you want to minimize using Fink.
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::RecDescent? Maybe I'm over-thinking this...
[1] My copy of /usr/share/dict/words has 75 words with 'ious', but only
one word with 'iou[^s]', so I'm guessing that 'ious' might be taken
as a single entity for your purposes.
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to, which as
noted above may help explain why unsubscribe requests aren't working.
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:
* Chris Devers cdevers at pobox.com [2004/01/15 15:21]:
You don't have an opinion on this, do you?
Sure I do.
Both ctags and etags have perl related options, so either
should be usable. vim can handle the output of both (tags
and TAGS), so it comes down
identical; is the point of the
Data::Dumper one liner that you just want the %ENV data as Perl sees it,
and not as you have in a regular shell?
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had plumbing problems last night,
didn't get enough sleep to be
thinking altogether clearly
to know what you
would have decided to install there.
Make sense?
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box running
on the same network? Or a Mac runnign Jaguar? It may be that these will
have issues for the same reason -- whatever it may be -- that your Panther
machine is having issues.
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for a future version of BBEdit... :)
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the
current design techniques (and my copy of the O'Reilly CSS book is
probably getting a bit out of date now), but it can definitely be done.
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will work after that.
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Jeremy Mates wrote:
* Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
open(FILE,hello.txt) || die(Cannot Open File: $!);
I find '||' far less readable than 'or', and far more likely to cause
precedence problems. Though I do write fairly () free Perl code.
Agreed, but I was trying
Note:
I'm cc'ing this back to the list, so that
others can correct anything I get wrong :)
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Gohaku wrote:
On Friday, November 21, 2003, at 09:40 AM, Chris Devers wrote:
Apache runs under, which by default is www. The easiest way to fix
this is
probably
that takes a long time to produce results might lead to timeout errors if
the web client gives up, but if you keep sending back data as it becomes
available then the client will tend to keep the connection open.
Have I had this wrong? Is it better to save up all output for the end?
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it, but there can
obviously be cases where this doesn't work in practice.
As with everything else in web programming, the only real rule of thumb is
probably just one word: Test.
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still baffled by the apache::dbi errors
...
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Chris Devers wrote:
Try
perl -MCPAN -e 'force install Mysql'
to re-install DBD::mysql and see if that makes a difference.
http://icdevgroup.org/pipermail/interchange-users/2000-August/30.html
Which may work, but I still don't get why I'm getting
letter up a row back -- very annoying. I was hoping that
the Panter upgrade would make this go away, but it didn't seem to help.
Has anyone else seen behavior like that? It's annoying, but not a huge
impediment to getting things done, so I haven't brought it up before...
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to go to allows you to put in
a comment (and the comment I put was substantially your rant above, asking
the person to figure out how to whitelist mailing lists or just not sign
up for them in the first place), but when you hit submit you get a server
error.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
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.
Thanks!
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uptime, n.
Some future (unspecified) time when the system will be UP and running.
Compare DOWNTIME. See also CRASH.
-- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995
/Contents/Resources/stroke
But CLI accessible this way.
So anyway, it's ping-able, and the ftp port is nominally open, but an
attempt to actually connect just sits there.
Do you specifically need to get in via FTP for some reason?
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?
It doesn't need to run from within X11, does it? I don't know if the
current version of wxPerl does Aqua graphics, or if it just relies on X
for that, but if it's the latter you may need to fire up X and make sure
that your $DISPLAY variable is set properly, etc.
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://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/unix-porting
Or more generally,
http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo
for a list of Apple's lists.
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algorism, n.
A pre-LISP ALGORITHM devised by abu-Ja'far Mohammed ibn-Musa
al-Khuwarizmi (Persian mathematician fl. ce
be wrong about that last bit, but the lack of a defragmentation
component to the standard disc management software leads me to think that
Apple for one doesn't seem to concerned about this either.
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fault-tolerant, adj.
1 (Of a Quality Assurance Department
as you're ever likely to get -- you really have to attend Conway's
Extreme Programming with Perl talk. It's truly diabolical :)
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price/performance, n.
Marketing: A ratio usually non-computable since the numerator is
subject to random discounts
those permissions at the outset, not on demand.
There's a lot more to it than this of course, but that's the general
strategy that needs to be understood. You can of course learn much more by
reading the relevant man pages or a good Unix reference book.
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rights.
Still, that is an interesting way to do... just in time sudo rights.
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throwaway, adj.
(Of a program) sold below cost for public debugging. See also PROTOTYPING.
-- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995
herds you
towards using /Library/Perl, or a custom directory in $PERL5LIB.
Does that about cover it?
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deconstructor, n. (C+-)
The special member function of a class X named ~~X.
Unlike the traditional C++ X::~X DESTRUCTOR, which destroys target
objects
.tar.gz)
Module Win32::ODBC (Contact Author Dave Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Module iodbc (J/JM/JMAHAN/iodbc_ext_0_1.tar.gz)
Which also seems to mean UnixODBC and iodbc, of which I don't know enough
to make any recommendations or offer any warnings.
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! Konfabulator is way
beyond that! Konfabulator is the bomb! It's the shit, man!
Ah, screw it, I don't know what it does, either.
I really don't have anything to add :)
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Good night. Try not to miss me.
know what version of OSX...).
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optimizer, n.
A compiler with three switches for controlling its object code output:
big, slow, or both. Compare PESSIMIZING COMPILER.
-- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, drieux wrote:
On Tuesday, Feb 25, 2003, at 15:48 US/Pacific, Chris Devers wrote:
[..]
That looks painful. Why not just use one of these?
% sw_vers
ProductName:Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.2.4
BuildVersion: 6I32
this application appears
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Chris Devers wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Jeff Lowrey wrote:
At 10:12 AM +1100 2/26/03, John Horner wrote:
How do I find out if it's 10.1.3 or 10.1.5 from the command-line?
[toothgnip:~] jeff% osascript -e 'tell application Finder to version'
osascript -e 'tell
that usually comes up with such software (mp3 players, etc).
Fun if you used to use Kaleidascope or (in x11) enlightenment though.
If you're into that sort of thing :)
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semiotics, n.
Half a science of meaning is better than none.
See also TEXTUAL HARRASSMENT
of the time.
As Flava Flav taught, I don't believe the hype :)
I saw another list at one point that was polite almost to a fault -- in
apparent reaction to macosx-talk's abrasiveness -- but that one seems to
have faded away and I no longer have details on it.
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less
still shows up here there. So
5.006x is equivalent to 5.6.x, and 5.7.x or 5.8.x are equivalent to 5.007x
and 5.008x, respectively.
Copious details available at http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html.
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time slice, n.
The occasional CPU cycle begrudgingly
in spite of the occasional crashes (maybe a couple
per week), I wouldn't want to go back to 10.1 now. Jaguar is better -- I'm
just hoping that 10.3 is a bit more polished :)
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regular, adj.
UNIX (Of an expression) irregular; convoluted.
One of the many AUTO
, in Vim, Emacs, BBEdit,
or whatever, can be used to narrow down sections of code that are correct
which need more examination.
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drag queen, n.
A move in GUI chess.
-- from _The Computer Contradictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle, 1995
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Chris Devers wrote:
Are you running with warnings strict mode?
And the other thing, which I forgot to mention, is that if you can narrow
down the broken region of your script still can't figure it out, by all
means send that code the errors it produces to the list
in the results of such a test, actually...
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In every hierarchy the cream rises until it sours.
-- Dr. Laurence J. Peter
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Riccardo Perotti wrote:
...and sorry for taking this list so off-topic ...
Nah, don't worry about it -- at least you didn't bring up Python :)
...zope zope zope zope zope... :)
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If God had not given us sticky tape, it would have
/Realtime-0.01/Realtime.pm
There may be others as well, but MIDI::Realtime is pretty neat... :)
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Pilot /
AvantGo, cell phone browser, braille screen reader, etc).
But that's a whole other rant, isn't it? :)
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should be available at IIRC http://lists.perl.org/.
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) /usr/bin/gcc was a symlink to one
or the other of /usr/bin/gcc2 or /usr/bin/gcc3. Given that both binaries
should be available regardless of where the symlink is pointing, maybe
any tests could work directly with the files rather than the link.
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add some material to the Cookbook.
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know how this broke, or what the extent of the damage is)
then just reinstall.
What do you have in that crash log?
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Lou Moran wrote:
On Tuesday, Nov 26, 2002, at 18:03 America/New_York, Chris Devers wrote:
Or if you've upgraded to Jaguar:
% cd /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PowerPlant.framework/Versions/A/
% file PowerPlant
PowerPlant: Mach-O dynamically linked
, either
by prefixing that line or the whole script with 'sudo' (and using your
account password when prompted) or by placing this in root's crontab.
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is that this is where things will go with
future releases.
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-- it handles line endings very gracefully, and
converting among different formats is just a matter of:
:set fileformat=unix
:set fileformat=mac
:set fileformat=dos
vim rox :)
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Q: How does a hacker fix a function which doesn't
work for all
better data integrity as well.
This now brings OSX one big step closer to where BeOS was five years ago,
and where Irix was a decade ago ;)
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applications among Fink's current catalog...
Most of the mac-specific perl docs that I have seen refer to OS 9. I'm
not sure how much of them apply to OS X, so I've been relying on more
generic perl docs.
This generally seems like the way to go.
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not *that* bad.
If the system is bothering you that much why aren't you using something
else? If the system is bothering you that much why are you complaining
about it on a Perl list instead of telling Apple how you feel? What are we
going to do about it -- commiserate? No thanks.
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automatic.
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BSD. For comparison, these
can be tried against x86 versions of the same systems. The ultimate idea
being to get an idea of how OSX compares to other systems that use this
hardware, and how this hardware compares to it's big brother alternative.
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I had pancake
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Erik Price wrote:
On Monday, October 7, 2002, at 05:39 PM, Chris Devers wrote:
convention[al] wisdom seems to be that it's generally easier to just
store the images as conventional files, and put the filesystem paths
to those files in as regular character data
it.
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Q: Why don't lawyers go to the beach?
A: The cats keep trying to bury them.
as iDisk and on
Windows as web folders -- seems to have been crafted to solve exactly
the problem you're trying to deal with here: create edit files on remote
disks as if they were local resources, and yet potentially you can have
many people collaborating on these files too. Neat-o! :)
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, and
incidently you want to run this through an encrypted channel with ssh.
Fine. Any solution you pick is going to have to involve a file sharing
protocol though. Pick one turn it on. Like I say, I suggest WebDAV.
Details/urls on request.
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FORTUNE PROVIDES
, etc.
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Q: What do Winnie the Pooh and John the Baptist have in common?
A: The same middle name.
version of the language happens to be at at any given point.
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Q: How do you play religious roulette?
A: You stand around in a circle and blaspheme
and see who gets struck by lightning first.
?), but that roughly seems to be what
the system is telling you here...
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the HIGHWAY is made out of LIME JELLO and my HONDA is a barbequeued
OYSTER! Yum!
, eh?
:) :) :)
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dnliinr
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Andrew M. Langmead wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 01:40:44PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote:
for example -- but the system feels *a lot* less stable
to me than 10.1 did, I've seen kernel panics for the first time in almost
a year,
But Chris, the new kernel panic display
that was only done half-right.
*shrug* /rambling
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can go graphical iff you're
running X11. A version that worked in Aqua would be great, and last
I checked the entropy.ch one didn't do that. Has it been updated?
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The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent.
-- Sagan
silently, but the one with data in it fails, as yours did, with an error
about line 697 of .../Net/ICal/Component.pm.
I'll have to try this again on Linux tomorrow...
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Have you ever seen Jack Valenti
John Ashcroft at the same time?
then the latter is nice too. Your pick.
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instead of Unix style slash delimited ones
[also no big deal]. At one point I had a oneliner that could push data
from this file into MySQL. Very easy.
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Have you ever seen Jack Valenti
John Ashcroft at the same time?
/finkinfo/test.info is to
issue a standard fink install test command.
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with /usr/local as the basedir and pretend that
you don't even have the Apple supplied versions.
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Apache / mod_perl / http://homepage.mac.com/chdevers/resume/
More war soon. You know how it is.-- mnftiu.cc
it working? I could install it, but it wouldn't
really do anything without immediately crashing on me. I forget what the
problems were exactly at this point, I'll have to give it another try.
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Apache / mod_perl / http://homepage.mac.com
:
Patch to allow detection of libxml2, includes proper c++ linker
options.
.
Maintainer: Jeffrey Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have included Jeffrey on this mail. He might be able to answer some of
your questions...
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counts as stable unstable. Not that there's anything wrong with that :)
I've been using unstable for everything for a few months now, and really
haven't had any problems from doing so. If you want the most recent
version, I don't expect that you'll have many problems by using unstable.
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newbie questions. [1]
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More war soon. You know how it is.-- mnftiu.cc
[1] Except Alex Robinson, that other-list polluting bastard. :)
rules here. If decomposition is only
getting in the way, then reconsider doing it, and maybe scale back. I'd
just say not to dwell on it *too* much -- you're getting into territory on
which many a doctoral dissertation has been prepared :)
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Alex S wrote:
Chris Devers wrote:
If yes, how do I accommodate repeated poking of the sub which
repeatedly returns data in a predictive display format? iow, do
I violate the above premise by making the sub return the display
info as well as shown below?
Well
with that. this is
a great list usually and it would be all the time if the off topic
and editorial stuff would end.
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 08:39 , Chris Devers wrote:
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Puneet Kishor wrote:
Separating layout, logic data is a virtue in any programming
situation [which is why HTML
off the
list. Please accept my deep sincere apologies for what I wrote.
:(
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More war soon. You know how it is.-- mnftiu.cc
systems, but if it can't run on them natively then this
isn't as useful to me, personally.
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