Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
heck yes omg! s freakin' excited! On 9-Jun-09, at 12:38 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Wow, that's going to be totally awesome. Especially the web stuff in there. Sweet On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: HI, Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build.

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
I know exactly what you mean (smiles) I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money. But it is a i phone. On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina

RE: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Busboom
Thanks for the input regarding my need to switch a POP3 account to IMAP. I want IMAP on this particular account because I access it on more than one system. I guess the creation of a new account is the best approach, but I have one other question: Is there a way to copy all of the account

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
command [ On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is there a fix for this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
If the service provider has both POP and Imap just delete the pop account and create the Imap one. Don't worry, all the messages you had in your account will be downloaded again to the Imap account in mail. On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: Thanks for the input regarding my

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
wdodles http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html OK serious question if someone could answer me off list though since not quite on topic. Where might I go to sell my mobilespeak pocket license? I'm ready to turn in my win mobile for an iPhone! Justin On Jun 8,

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi there. I think your story isn't boring at all. It's interesting to hear where people came from before they ended up here. All those old computers and synths and stuff it's way cool! Has anyone, by the way, heard of or even used a computer/screenreader/ speech synth that was called

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Oh yes. We had several screen readers developed here in Sweden and Denmark that we used along with the Swedish Infovox synths. Yes, Infovox was Swedish in the beginning. We didn't use Asap or Jaws for dos or any of the other screen readers. The only non-scandinavian screen reader in use

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I wonder when it will be released in Sweden. I already plan on how to sell my E66.:-) I couldn't agree more with Josh, i'm in shock and so excited. I wonder how the sound quality of the Iphones phone is. Well it's gonna be cool anyways, if only i could be sure it would be sold here as

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina: oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user! I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i jumped on the Mac train when i did. I can't believe what Apple is doing for us. /Krister --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleni, On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Tiffany D wrote: Just imagine what would happen if we could make a modern version (of the optacon) and use it with Leopard and Voiceover. So would this show you the screen tactually or just indicate a position on the screen? This is actually very

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Might aswell throw this out there since we're talking about general vintage a t. I'm searching for a speaqualizer and am willing to pay if someone can sell me one that works. Fyi, it was a synth that plugged into a isa slot that was able to read the bios. On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, (I'm known for doing that):-) but why reinvent the wheel? There is a device for that other operating system that is little known, called GWP, which is used to convey graphical info to us. The display is bigger than the Optacon one which in my opinion

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
http://www.handytech.us/ht.html#gwp On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, (I'm known for doing that):-) but why reinvent the wheel? There is a device for that other operating system that is little known, called GWP, which is

Re: Safari 4 crashes when going to the apple store

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Confirmed on an Imac 20 with Macosx 10.5.7 and latest Safari. /Krister 8 jun 2009 kl. 23.11 skrev Michael Reiser: Hello all, Just installed the latest safari 4 from software update, updating from the beta. I did the restart and all that. Everything works well, except that when going

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Oh I remember Hal. They actually translated that one to catalan, which is my first language. I thought it was really cool so I gave it a try, but I never got that screen reader to work for me for some reason... On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Oh yes. We had several

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Listen to the keynote from WWDC at www.apple.com. It's a rather lengthy presentation but really interesting. At some point they specify exactly in which countries the iPhone will be sold, and when it's coming out. In Spain it's coming out this month. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Krister

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Really? I didn't even know that existed! On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:41 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: Might aswell throw this out there since we're talking about general vintage a t. I'm searching for a speaqualizer and am willing to pay if someone can sell me one that works. Fyi, it was a synth

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Yes, it did have its issues in the older versions - lots of issues really. Its much better now though. On 09/06/2009, Ignasi Cambra ignasicam...@gmail.com wrote: Oh I remember Hal. They actually translated that one to catalan, which is my first language. I thought it was really cool so I gave

Re: Tabular content and Voiceover

2009-06-09 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, You can do it in safari for sure. Presumably you can do it in tables 9 as well or the spreadsheet application that comes with open office, numbers is it? I forget. I think the last I read tables weren't functioning in text edit, but most other places they should be pretty workable.

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
Try command with backspace instead. On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is there a fix for this?

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread kaare dehard
yep try command [ they've changed the key. On 9-Jun-09, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is there a fix for this?

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
And what about that gps application that was demonstrated as part of the WWDC keynote. All the developer of that would have to do is make that accessible with VO on the iPhone? I'm assuming? On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: And, you've made the point. You have more choices

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll end up with the exact same situation you have on every other platform where a screenreader exists, its going to be down to the developers to make there applications accessable. To be honest, using a touch screen is nice, knowing

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Brandon Misch
thanks for the command. thought going back was only there when it came to the toolbar. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, That was never a qualified keystroke. Use CMD + [ instead. Regards, Alex, On 8-Jun-09, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Damn, I guess I'm just going to have to purchase a Macbook or Macbook Pro. To bad Apple couldn't release a trackpad that could be used in place of the mouse. I guess I'll have to get an iPhone as well, but you know I hope one will come to Verizon Wireless since I would prefer to stick

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Well said, Ben. Most developers of software on the mac, have developed with accessibility in mind, or if they haven't, they've listened to our concerns , and look how the mac has taken off in the blind community.I'd think the iPhone will do the same in my opinion. I'd give it a

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I will not get rid of my MSP license either, but the fact is that here in Spain we only have GSM carriers, and none of them is really hated by people. If VO on the iPhone works as well as VO on the Mac, I will simply get an iPhone the next time I need to purchase a cell phone. I like VO,

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I think on the Apple website it said that all programs that come with the iPhone are accessible, and it specified including google maps. If google maps is truly accessible, a GPS solution can't be that hard to get to work... On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: And what about

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Well, and the same goes for Windows Mobile. I have tried apps for that platform many times which aren't read by Mobile Speak at all. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll end up with the exact same situation

Re: test

2009-06-09 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, Your message came through loud and clear over here. On 6/8/09, gene gene5...@austin.rr.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to send a message with my ibook I think I got my problem resolved, guess we'll see! Gene -- You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. MSN/e-mail:

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
That is true and I forgot to mention that. YOu can use a version of the Marc Space app and of course now I'm drawing a blank, but there is support for the iPhone in this app and it costs I believe $40. So, yes, there are other options beyond iTunes. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
I agree with Dan. I think more apps will be accessible in time. now that people are finding out about voiceover on the IPhone, just like on the mac, they'll start writing apps with accessibility in mind. and who knows, maybe some apps are accessible already just cuz of how they're

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
The new iphone will be supported on varizon, which is cdma. Will be interesting to see if other companies are supported. I've read that the iphone does have a builtin gps app and since they say that the built in apps are accessible, the gps might be. I'm sure braille can be supported

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
yeah I know. exactly. although the e71 is pretty sleak too. I'm really curious to see how the touch screen will work! that's another reason why I want it. I'm a cutting edge kinda girl lol. I wanna be one of the first blind people to pull out my iphone and use a touch screen device!!!

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
try command left bracket. the one to the right of the p. On 9-Jun-09, at 7:10 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: tried that and that doesn't work. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: Try command with backspace instead. On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
yeah, I think it was always command. I've been using that key to go back forever!! On 9-Jun-09, at 5:39 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: Wasn't it always command [? I've used that keystroke ever since Safari 3 actually, noticed that was the shortcut for going back that was announced by VO in

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Brandon Misch
tried that and that doesn't work. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: Try command with backspace instead. On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
oh I know!!! it's amazing the mac may not be for everybody, but it is most certainly for me!! On 9-Jun-09, at 2:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: 9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina: oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user! I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i jumped

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
The same thing is about to happento our beloved Symbian. Of all the apps i've tried to install on my E66, some have workt partially but most have never worked at all, and now, even programs that come with the phone, such as Calendar and in some cases the mail app has stopped working and i

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Larry, I don't think any of it is impossible. I'd be really surprized if it wasn't in the works somewhere already actually. It's going to take really firm development on it to get me to switch. Besides, I read oh, 20/30 messages this morning from wow'm zow'm enthusiasts who were

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
HI, YOU ARE MISSING THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIX APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE. REGARDS, ALEX, On 9-Jun-09, at 5:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll end up with the exact same situation you have on every other

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Eliza Cooper
Jessi and list, I'm totally in the same boat as far as wanting to be one of the first. I never have been the first on the band wagon, but man would it be cool! I have been frequenting the Apple store here in Manhattan enough so that the employees are starting to recognize me, so

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: HI, YOU ARE MISSING THE FEATURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIX APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE. ...Which I only saw mention of in the OS X section, not in the iPhone section. Not to say it won't be possible. And this feature likely won't

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
It's going to take early adopters to make it better, so I guess we should thank those that rush out and get one smiles. Mike On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:00 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi Larry, I don't think any of it is impossible. I'd be really surprized if it wasn't in the works somewhere

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Yeah, it's funny how Apple employees are always so willing to learn about VO. None of the ones I've talked to at the store knew how VoiceOver works, and some of them thought that it wasn't really usable by an actual blind person, yet. Just as a joke, after talking to one of them, I turned

Re: Got a new mac mini but have some questions.

2009-06-09 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, Everything is working fine now. thanmk you again. my next step is to inport all of my music and contacts as well as files from my pc. Matthew On 6/6/09, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com wrote: Correct, power button located in top-right corner on mini just above the power cord

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
I missed this earlier. Cmd-backspace isn't the right keystroke. And command-left arrow has, for me anyway, only worked intermittently. The command you want is cmd-left bracket (to the right of the p). BTW, most keyboard commands for an app can be found in the menus as well. Most of the

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I might be wrong, but Mac OS X has been around for quite a long time now, and it is possible to create Mac compatible apps without using the Cocoa framework. This is were I might really be wrong, but from what I heard yesterday from the WWDC keynote, and from what I've read, developers

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Yeah and it wouldn't cost $895, which quite frankly is a bit expensive in my opinion. And no, I'm not bashing anyone or Code Factory etc. I see the benefits of the software and for some $895 is well worth every dime and I can't argue that point. My hope is that maybe other options will

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Well I've heard it would be supported, but the question is when. Guess I need to call Verizon Wireless. I'm actually do for an upgrade and so I might just have to get one as soon as it is available. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Skype Question

2009-06-09 Thread Robert Carter
Hi, Is Skype 2.8 the latest version for the mac? I downloaded and installed it from skype.com. When I add a contact, the person that I am adding does not see me in their list because skype is not prompting me to allow them to see my details. Does anybody know why this isn't happening?

Re: Emusic download manager?

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
Really? You must've had an older one than I did, or anyway, a different one; I could never access any of that stuff! On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: I never thought the old one was that bad. At least I could see the list of downloads, clear completed ones, check the

Re: Emusic download manager?

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Hey tell them they really should reconsider and have a look at fixing this After all, even Amazon's download manager is fully accessible. Maybe if you tell them that, they will listen. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:17 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: I never thought the old one was that bad. At least I

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Tiffany D
I'd like to learn more about them. Email me offlist so we don't getway too offtopic. *smile* On 09/06/2009, ben mustill-rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.handytech.us/ht.html#gwp On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi, I'm sorry to rain on your

assistive tech store marketing mac

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them to customize an imac, and flattering that they would consider marketing an imac at all. http://www.rla.com/ Click on the store link, and there is another link request quote for mac systems Regards Justin Harford

assistive tech store marketing mac

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them to customize an imac, and flattering that they would consider marketing an imac at all. http://www.rla.com/ Cl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

RE: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jed Barton
do you have the link for that page? _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ignasi Cambra Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voice over comes to the I phone Read the iPhone page on

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jed Barton wrote: do you have the link for that page? It's only been posted a zillion times. This maks a zillion and one, I guess: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Read the iPhone page on the apple accessibility website. It will answer your questions. On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jed Barton wrote: does anyone have the info on the official release notes for it? Does it work currently, and i would guess it would come with the iphone? Also, how would

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Go to www.lioncourt.com and you will find it. There is an article about it on the home page, with links to the Apple website. I On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Jed Barton wrote: do you have the link for that page? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ]

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Tiffany D
This GWP sounds great. But it seems to fulfill my friend's dream and not mine. I want something portable that I can use to scan any object or image, say a box of food at the grocery store or a hard copy map, and feel it tactually. Sounds like this thing is confined to the computer. Taking

Re: very nice experience at University Village Apple Store in Seattle Washington

2009-06-09 Thread Ben King
On Jun 8 Dear Mitchell, Thank you for your reply. I am glad that you had a wonderful experience. Have a wonderful day. Blessings, Ben King, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Mitchell Smith wrote: I also visited the university village Apple store when I was in Seattle late last year and found the

My Mac just updated to Safari 4

2009-06-09 Thread Brett Campbell
I've been staying away from the beta, but it appears that the official Safari 4 is released. My Mac just updated, and the problems in Mail I had with my brief trial with the beta don't seem to be present. Brett --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

first effect of safari 4

2009-06-09 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello group; I too just installed safari 4. I am always nervous when updating. But the first change I noticed is on my own website. I have a translate script on it. Before now vo just said button as i tabbed through. To know which language choice i was on I had to use the vo plus h.

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread kaare dehard
I'm a conservative grumpy old man, and I just bought a talks enabled phone. I'm glad that apple is doing something about this but won't even consider an iphone product until such time as it's time to trade in or if my phone stops providing services I really need. I'm glad to know however

Re: P2P file shareing...

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
You can use uTorrent. It's a Bittorrent client and it's completely accessible with VO. I use it and am really happy with it. On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Mike wrote: Hi all: Anyone know of a VO accessible P2P file sharing program for music and the like. I tried the latest LimeWire and the

Vo doesn't read text under some radio buttons

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
Hello all, Just wanted to report that vo doesn't seem to read text under some radio buttons. An example of this is my school. They use a thing called desire to learn. I just went to go take a quiz for class, but all vo says for the choices is 1 radio button, 2 radio button, 3 radio

Re: Vo doesn't read text under some radio buttons

2009-06-09 Thread Esther
Hi Mike, I don't know whether this will help, but try using VO-H and check whether there's a description. If that doesn't work, try downloading one of the recent WebKit nightly builds from: http://nightly.webkit.org/ WebKit is the underlying engine for Safari and some other web

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility with the maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually obligated to stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do it. - Original Message - From: Larry Wanger lsw...@gmail.com To:

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility with the maps program it comes with. I thought Apple is contractually obligated to stop short of turn by turn directions and not approve apps that do it. Dunno where

Re: Vo doesn't read text under some radio buttons

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Try reading the text on the radio buttons with VO+H. If it doesn't work, try VO+L. On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Michael Reiser wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to report that vo doesn't seem to read text under some radio buttons. An example of this is my school. They use a thing called

Re: Vo doesn't read text under some radio buttons

2009-06-09 Thread Brett Campbell
Hi Esther, I'm new to Safari 4. Does your statement used to mean that I no longer need to update web kit? Thanks, Brett On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Esther wrote: Hi Mike, I don't know whether this will help, but try using VO-H and check whether there's a description. If that

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
Oh, I remember hearing that on Leo Laporte's show that because of the maps they used that it wasn't allowed for Google to do it and that Apple didn't approve Tom Tom because of it. Maybe they finally got over that, or that could've been something in the early days. - Original Message

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to fix most of the accessibility issues? I wish that effects panel in Audio Hijack Pro could be fixed so I could record podcasts using both the mic and VO without having to resort to time compression/expansion to make both files

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
Oy. Go listen to the WWDC keynote already. On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Brent Harding wrote: What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to fix most of the accessibility issues? I wish that effects panel in Audio Hijack Pro could be fixed so I could record podcasts

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
For me, that's why I'd want to add Mobile Geo versus getting the trekker breeze for the same price. I played around with a friend's breeze once, but I just don't have people to take it around and program up places I might consider going if I knew what the route it makes might be like. -

Re: first effect of safari 4

2009-06-09 Thread Mike Arrigo
I wonder if there is any advantage to using web kit with regard to accessibility now instead of safari 4? - Original Message - From: Maxwell Ivey Jr. maxwelli...@aol.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:16 PM Subject: first effect of safari 4 Hello

Re: P2P file shareing...

2009-06-09 Thread John J Herzog
Hi Mike. You can try acqlite. Although far from perfect, this is the most VO friendly p2p client I've found. Email me if you want directions on how to use it. I'll only post a brief set here. First, after launching acqlite, interact with the toolbar. Look for where it says search for files.

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
To throw some more fuel on this discussion, Apple tends to be a company that plans ahead and has a road map in terms of where it is going. Wouldn't you think that they knew that over time they anticipated adding voice over to the iPhone? And, we know that VO was on the Mac for a few years

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
Scott, In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of what you are saying. Apple and att have an exclusive contract. The length of this contract isn't really clear and, in light of some things said

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
I've never heard of such restrictions on the iPhone. Apple had restricted GPS functionality on the previous versions of the iPhone but those have been lifted. The company that showed their application yesterday was TomTom. I suspect this application is geared to drivers and not people

Re_P2P file sharing

2009-06-09 Thread Mike
Hi John: Thanks for the tidbits. I have just downloaded and installed Acqlite. You can go in the preferences and configure where to put your files and the like and it's fairly accessible. Thanks AGN: Mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

Re: assistive tech store marketing mac

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
I suppose some people that live in Sanfrancisco might want the on site installation and the like. The important thing if you were going to buy from them is whether or not they are authorized for service by Apple so if you need repair you can get it, should they not be around some day down the

Moving Files from PC to Mac

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I am posting this for the use of anyone out there wanting to move their whole PC to a Mac, at least Filewise. Take them both into an Apple Store, and it will be looked after by a genius. Regards, Alex, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

My iPhone

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I can't believe it. My first day back on the job as an accessibility consultant after nearly a year is next Wednsday, the same day the iPhone firmware is released. I work in an environment where just about every employee has an iPhone, so I am sure I'll be able to borrow one of my

Moving Files from PC to Mac

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I am posting this for the use of anyone out there wanting to move their whole PC to a Mac, at least Filewise. Take them both into an Apple Store, and it will be looked after by a genius. Regards, Alex, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread James Dietz
Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so that they can get right to the bad stuff. My favorite has to be the section where they discuss using voiceover with the internet - while there are some legitimate

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
They probably won't say anything right now but good sources from there have said they would carry it. We'll just have to see what happens. Mike On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 PM, peter Apgar wrote: Sorry all to be the barer of bad news, I just hung up with VZ sales. Per my discussion VZ

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
They have FS and other companies in there pockets, so they have to discredit someone else. Mike On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:54 PM, James Dietz wrote: Nearly everything they point out is negative. It's almost as if they're deliberately skipping over what the screenreader does well so that they

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread James Dietz
Really? I know FS is one of the key sponsers of the convention, but does that really mean they have an agenda? I can almost believe it, as like I said it really wasn't so much a debate of pros and cons as it was a list of cons. I don't want to help escolate this into a flame war, but I am curious

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread Mike Arrigo
I agree. You may use more keystrokes on a mac, but a sighted user is going to also need to scroll the screen etc. It seems like when they did this review, if it didn't do things the way a windows screen reader does, then it's unfortunate. Even if many blind users have used windows, so

Macbook numpad

2009-06-09 Thread E.J. Zufelt
Good evening, Does anyone know if the virtual numpad has returned to the new generation Macbook keyboards? Thanks, Everett Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

RE: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread peter Apgar
I will have one the nineteenth no matter the carrier. Pete -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Reiser Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voice over

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, The criteria is that TomTom wants exclusive rights to Turn by Turn directions. So they have them. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jun-09, at 4:44 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought I heard that GPS like we need will never be a possibility

Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with low RAM systems. She is the English US Candidate it seems. I saw this in a demo. Regards, Alex, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: assistive tech store marketing mac

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, I paid a hundred or so more for my Macbook because my LAN tech ordered it with twice the RAM and I am sure glad he did. Maybe this is it. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jun-09, at 10:54 AM, Justin Harford wrote: I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them to

Re: Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but maybe. On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, The voice on the phone is Victoria because of her great workings with low RAM systems. She is

Re: Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, Yep. Sure is.. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jun-09, at 8:42 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: where did you see the demo? are you talking about the IPhone guided tour on the apple site? I don't think that would be the voice, but maybe. On 9-Jun-09, at 8:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, The

Re: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility

2009-06-09 Thread Maurice Mines
stop it at lest it is giving access to the apps on the iphone that we did't have befor I don't care how it happends I am just apploding it. please stop the winning over a good thing. or are you never stesfied. ie need to have somthing to winn about. hmm Maurice. On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:45 PM,

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