Re: iCloud vs Gmail
Know what you mean. I'd only ever change if Gmail became so unreliable that I can no longer trust it. I've been using Gmail for years and have little to no problems. I do have an iCloud Mail account but only because it's free as part of the iCloud service so checked it out and so could use it in an emergency. However for me if it aint broke don't fix it. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/05/2014 06:39, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Sorry Jonnathan I'm feemale! On 13 May 2014, at 12:12 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display manufacturer, whoever that manufacturer is. There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not working on certain variations of Mac. In this case, if the device is working properly in all other situations, this is most likely to be an issue for Apple to resolve. Any screen reader developer, in this case VoiceOver, writes their own drivers to interface with a Braille display. The only drivers Freedom Scientific write are for JAWS, which they also produce. From time to time, something may happen which breaks support for certain displays, and naturally this is highly frustrating for those affected. I'm using the Focus 40 Blue regularly on a Mac with no issues. This doesn't help anyone who is having trouble, but it does suggest that the problem may be isolated to certain kinds of Mac, or even certain kinds of Mac produced at a certain time, so Apple Accessibility is your best bet for this. Like any tricky software issue, the more data Apple can get, I'm sure the more likely it will be that they can isolate and ultimately solve the problem. I hope that's of some help. Jonathan On 12/05/2014, at 1:18 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there ' I hope it works, but I might point out that if you call Freedom Scientific about your braille display like I did and you mention the words Macintosh computer, you are immediately told to call Apple. They won't even talk about it, no matter what your question is. I must say they sort of panicked when I asked about that cd that comes with the Focus 14. I didn't think it had a Mac installer on it since Apple puts those drives on our Macs, but I was hoping. I was told immediately no way should I put that cd in my Mac. They didn't know there was no way I was going to do that unless it was marked for that or they told me to do it. Regards, Gigi On May 10, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: I have written to Apple and to somebody who works in Freedom scientific to see whether or not we can have firmware drivers as Mac installers. Hopefully, we will get some results from that soon. On 10 May 2014, at 08:59 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal. It is good to write to apple. It maybe requires a cooperation between apple and freedom scientiffic to get it to work again. Best regards Annie. Den 09/05/2014 kl. 22.41 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com: I have written to Apple access ability or is it the other way round! To discuss with Freedom scientific. Hopefully, I will have a response soon, and will share it with you all. I have also written an email to Jonathan Mosen to ask him to encourage freedom scientific to put Mac installers of their products on their website. On 9 May 2014, at 09:19 pm, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kawal. I have 2 macs here, on the older mac it works on this mac from 2011 it will not load the driver as you said. I can not figure out what's going wrong. Best regards Annie. Den 09/05/2014 kl. 21.05 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com: it has nothing to do with the model, as the driver is stalled on the bell display successfully. It is when you try and connect this displayed via Bluetooth with the Mac. On 9 May 2014, at 06:57 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: This seems very strange. I've had a Focus 40 blue since 2010 and it has updated perfectly. Is this possibly a difference between older and newer models? Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On May 9, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello. After updating the firmware on my Bluetooth Focus 40, it will not pair to the Mac via Bluetooth as it says Failed to load Driver. Suppose I'll have to send an e-mail to Accessibility. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display manufacturer, whoever that manufacturer is. There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not working on certain variations of Mac. In this case, if the device is working properly in all other situations, this is most likely to be an issue for Apple to resolve. Any screen reader developer, in this case VoiceOver, writes their own drivers to interface with a Braille display. The only drivers Freedom Scientific write are for JAWS, which they also produce. From time to time, something may happen which breaks support for certain displays, and naturally this is highly frustrating for those affected. I'm using the Focus 40 Blue regularly on a Mac with no issues. This doesn't help anyone who is having trouble, but it does suggest that the problem may be isolated to certain kinds of Mac, or even certain kinds of Mac produced at a certain time, so Apple Accessibility is your best bet for this. Like any tricky software issue, the more data Apple can get, I'm sure the more likely it will be that they can isolate and ultimately solve the problem. I hope that's of some help. Jonathan On 12/05/2014, at 1:18 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there ' I hope it works, but I might point out that if you call Freedom Scientific about your braille display like I did and you mention the words Macintosh computer, you are immediately told to call
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Some people don't have Facebook or Twitter as yet so Can you make announcements in your FS Cast Jonnathan? Big please! Kawal. P.s. I have no idea of how to make a facebook account thus I don't have one! On 13 May 2014, at 03:22 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Teresa, what you are talking about in this instance is the firmware, not drivers. I'm pointing this out not to be pedantic, but because in a Mac context, FS writes the firmware, Apple does the drivers. So when we don't make a distinction between firmware and drivers, it can cause confusion about who customers need to call when they have questions or suggestions. Regarding not knowing when new firmware is out, that's a fair criticism and we'll fix this. I'd suggest, if you have Twitter or Facebook, connecting with FS there. Announcements will be made in future about firmware updates for Focus Blue. On Twitter, they are @FreedomSci, and on FaceBook go to https://www.facebook.com/FreedomScientificInc I can promise very cool things in the very near future. Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 2:08 pm, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: It is possible to update drivers on the display without sending it to Freedom scientific. i have done it once. Some confusion arose when I realized that my older model cannot be updated to 4.93. I also don't know when updates are available, and this would be helpful. Fortunately, however, my display is working fine thus far. teresa Visualize whirled peas. On May 12, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display manufacturer, whoever that manufacturer is. There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display manufacturer, whoever that manufacturer is. There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not working on certain variations of Mac. In this case, if the device is working properly in all other situations, this is most likely to be an issue for Apple to resolve. Any screen reader developer, in this case VoiceOver,
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Why does the 14 not connect to a Mac? I'm getting one of those in July hopefully to use with my i phone because I find carrying the 40 around is a bit too big so will use this Braille display with the Mac hopefully via blue tooth if the issues are fixed as I wrote to apple accessibility at acc...@apple.com was that correct? On 13 May 2014, at 11:38 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
No, the correct email address is: accessibil...@apple.com or you may call them at 8772043930 Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Why does the 14 not connect to a Mac? I'm getting one of those in July hopefully to use with my i phone because I find carrying the 40 around is a bit too big so will use this Braille display with the Mac hopefully via blue tooth if the issues are fixed as I wrote to apple accessibility at acc...@apple.com was that correct? On 13 May 2014, at 11:38 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to run on your
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Thanks. On 13 May 2014, at 12:41 pm, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: No, the correct email address is: accessibil...@apple.com or you may call them at 8772043930 Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 6:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Why does the 14 not connect to a Mac? I'm getting one of those in July hopefully to use with my i phone because I find carrying the 40 around is a bit too big so will use this Braille display with the Mac hopefully via blue tooth if the issues are fixed as I wrote to apple accessibility at acc...@apple.com was that correct? On 13 May 2014, at 11:38 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware updates via the Mac. Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree that
download a linked file from an email?
Hi all, Often, I'm emailed audio file links. I can open the links, but Safari's web player takes over. Bringing up the context menu on the link offers no way to download the audio file, and once it opens in Safari, I can think of no way to download it. What am I missing, or is this not possible? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Disregard question about downloading files from emailed links
Never mind. :) I never thought to try the context menu on the Safari player itself. I just did, and lowe and behold a download video option which downloads the file being played. Problem solved. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: download a linked file from an email?
Try option-enter. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/05/2014 14:34, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, Often, I'm emailed audio file links. I can open the links, but Safari's web player takes over. Bringing up the context menu on the link offers no way to download the audio file, and once it opens in Safari, I can think of no way to download it. What am I missing, or is this not possible? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: rules not working
Can you teach gmail where to put messages? I had a message in my inbox earlier that suppose to go into a filter I made. How can i teach gmail to just put it there? Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On May 12, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Terje Strømberg terjestrmb...@gmail.com wrote: Gmail filter You need to change gmail on web from standard view to basic html view. Here is a link to a how to do that http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/24763/how-can-i-convert-gmail-from-standard-view-to-basic-html-view If you want to filter an email list the senders email address is the email list address like macvisionaries@googlegroups.com The actual email list email address. Not Yoey, Anna or Smith`s email address. You may have to make a label first. Be sure to type in the correct email adress when making a filter. Try with only the senders email address first in the to field and nothing else in topic, message text field etc. Only the senders email adress in the to field. Then, you are minimizing the potential errors because you have only enterd the email adress, there must be wrong email address. Of course, the label name and skip inbox must be chosen. Take a look at step 15. below. If you have many messages below in that step, you are doing right, if not, there must be a miss spelled email address. Though i am a little bit confused about this guides step 4. although i write it. Long time since i filterd anything to a label. The reason you have to enter senders email adress in the to field is: Email list`s don`t always show their email address in the from field, but shows their email address in the to field. The Gmail filter have to see the correct address. If there is an incorrect address in the from field the Gmail filter reads wrong address. So you have to tell the filter to read from the to field where the email list`s have their correct address. Copyic from another message: ÷÷ Other may fill in and add details or correct. No problem. You may place a check mark in step 15. it will filter the most of your emails already stored, but it may take several days to filter. That scared me first time from check mark this because it looked scarying wtih so many emails falling down from the net like an never ending river. In my opinion a filter option is a great tool to keep order in our inbox. Noticed that some have 3000 - 4000 emails after 3 days without checking the email. I like many others are using gmail. A very good email client. Accesible. Filtering using Label and filter. You can use the Mail account built in IOS with gmail inside Mail IOS. If you make a new Label or a Map(this is the same i.e..Label is an map in your mailbox list under inbox, sent, deleted etc). If you don't have an gmail account you ca register one first on google.com Don't remember exactly how, but it is pretty straight forward and not dangerous. Chose IMAP if it is an option between IMAP or POP. IMAP synchronize email between iPhone, iPod, Mac and iPad. If you want to use the built in Mail program in IOS you register first on google.com then go to Settings Mail add Account. Find gmail in the list.. If memory serves, you only have to set username and password inside the built in IOS MAIL IF you already have signed an account on google.com Making a Label or Map. 1. Log in to gmail. 2. Go to Settings Label. Settings are in the upper right corner. A window pops up and you find the Label knob.Above the inbox there are also an link called make a filter and after above the inbox. Opening this, the same window opens. 3. Find the text box. Type the name viphone for the Label or Map(it is the same). Hit setup knob. Now you have a Label or Map in your list under Mailbox i.e. inbox, sent, all e-post etc. Make a filter rule. It is easy. Gmail is accessible and straight forward in this case at least. 1. Find the knob Filter in the same window above the table in a list above the table. Hit filter. Now we want to filter viph...@googlegroups.com to go into the Label or Map you made. 2. Find the knob make a new filter. A new window with a table opens. Set a filter. Make search criteria. 3. Find the text field from. Do not type anything here - leave this field empty. 4. Tab to to field Here you type viph...@googlegroups.com. 5. Tab to subject. Leave this field empty. 6. Tab to cotain these words. Leave this field empty. 7. Tab to do not contain. Leave this field empty. 8. Tab to have attachment. Leave this empty. 9. Before you tab to next step, be aware of that the only field you enter any text or mark is in the field to. Tab to the knob next step A new window containing an headline called make a filter a table called something like chose an action or command for this filter. 10. Tab to jump over the inbox. Place a check mark here. Very important. 11. Tab to
Re: remapping VO keys?
How can i enable the numpad feature with this program? I do not think it is working. Jessica jldai...@gmail.com On May 12, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Marsha and others, Keyremap4mackbook will remap the mac keyboard in many ways. I have mine set up with VO as the caps lock key. you can also change the keys to give you a set of VO keys on the right side of the space bar. This keeps my fingers from geting tangled up. This app can also give you a number pad on the laptop keyboard using letters on the right side of the keyboard. I understand this even works with the keyboard commander. The other app PCKeyboardHack, is used when you are also using a virtual machine, like VM Fusion, and want to have the caps lock key act like a Insert key. These free apps are supported by donation and the developer is quick to respond to requests. My rather dated podcast on Applevis.com goes through the process, but it has changed some. Eric Caron On May 12, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Marcia Yale dragonca...@gmail.com wrote: There is a way to remap the VO keys using two applications--PC Keyboard Hack and Key Remap for Macbook. I don't seem to have the instructions, but I believe they should be in the list archives. I believe it was discussed on this list, though I am on two lists and may have obtained the info from the other one. I had thought I had saved the instructions, but after following them, I seem to have deleted the email. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zameer Mahomed Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: remapping VO keys? Hi Matt and Jim, Thanks for the welcome. I guess I'll have to get use to the VO keys being only in that position. as for the gestures, it will take abit of learning but I'll get there eventually. Thanks for the replies. Kind regards - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:36 PM Subject: Re: remapping VO keys? Hi Zameer! I thought the same thing about the awkwardness of the control key--there just being one when I first got my macbook. Now I never even give it a thought. If you have a trackpad you can do so many of the commands there that used to require vo keys. Turn it on and give it a try. Jim On Apr 28, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Zameer Mahomed core...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everybody, I am new to the mac and the list. I hope I can learn from everyone as well as provide help in future. smile. What i'd like to know is, whether the VO keys could be assigned to different keys on the keyboard? for example, the macbook that I have only has one control key. Thus, it is quite awkward to perform vo plus keys that reside on the left part of the keyboard, take vo plus f1 as an example. Could the right option and command keys be remapped to perform the actions of the VO keys? Or is there another way? My appoligies if this question has been asked. Coming from Windows, really use to using keyboards with controls on either side. Kind Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road. These displays absolutely must work for a reasonable length of time for it to be worth it for us to pay the kind of money that we pay. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays. Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and
Reset Password
Hello: I would like to use the reset password function that is available in terminal when using the recovery partition. I first restart my Mac book while holding down command r. After giving the system some time, I start Voice Over with command f5, and hear the lovely Fred voice. I go to the menu bar with VO m. From the menu, I choose terminal. Then I type resetpassword. VoiceOver tells me that reset password is launched in the background. However, I cannot bring focus to this app. I've tried command tab, command accent, and the window chooser. Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
I have the lists I read most often on iCloud, and some others on Gmail. I still use Gmail as a secondary email address. Setting up filters on iCloud is quite tricky if you want them on all your devices, but very solid once it's set up. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 13, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reset Password
Try vo-f1-f1 to bring up the application chooser. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/05/2014 16:55, Rich Ring wrote: Hello: I would like to use the reset password function that is available in terminal when using the recovery partition. I first restart my Mac book while holding down command r. After giving the system some time, I start Voice Over with command f5, and hear the lovely Fred voice. I go to the menu bar with VO m. From the menu, I choose terminal. Then I type resetpassword. VoiceOver tells me that reset password is launched in the background. However, I cannot bring focus to this app. I've tried command tab, command accent, and the window chooser. Anyone have an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
working with numbers
Hello all, I did my first real steps with numbers 13 and I have some questions: I was looking after some windows alike navigation options I couldn't find in the hotkey summary: move to the next/ previous cel with contents up/down or left/right, IN ms office , I think you can do this with control +up/down or left/right, IN the hotkey summary, there are also some hotkeys that are based on the mouse. e.g. to select a whole row/column, you should click on a cel in that row/column and then select the corresponding number for the row or letter for the column. Does this work with voiceover? If there are special hints for iWork's 13 with voiceover and specially numbers, it would be great to hear of it. Kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iTunes Store Question
hi everyone my name is Krysti and i have a question about the iTunes store if i buy something in the iTunes US store can i still download content i bought from the US store in my Canadian account -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes Store Question
No You can't. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On May 13, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone my name is Krysti and i have a question about the iTunes store if i buy something in the iTunes US store can i still download content i bought from the US store in my Canadian account -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iTunes Store Question
Hi. No, you would have to sign in with your american apple ID. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On May 13, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone my name is Krysti and i have a question about the iTunes store if i buy something in the iTunes US store can i still download content i bought from the US store in my Canadian account -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMessage
I used to hear my new messages in iMessage as they arrived. Now, I don't hear anything. Is there some sort of setting that I may have changed? R o w e n a P o r t c h Author of the Spirian Saga RowenaPortch.com View the Book Trailer for Protected, Spirian Saga Book 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
For the Focus 40 Blue, are there any real differences between 4.89 and the 4.93 mentioned here, or is the later one only for the 14 cell model? Is there a place to download the latest one to get applied? - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40 Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed
Pages on iPad
How do you hear spelling errors in Pages on the iPad and how do you correct them? I'm not sure if I'm typing too fast or what, but even when I ask to read the previous paragraph, the spelling errors are not announced. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessage
Hi, It's likely something to do with Notification Centre. You could have Do Not Disturb activated or you may have changed a setting within there that stopped those notifications. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Rowena Portch row...@rowenaportch.com wrote: I used to hear my new messages in iMessage as they arrived. Now, I don't hear anything. Is there some sort of setting that I may have changed? R o w e n a P o r t c h Author of the Spirian Saga RowenaPortch.com View the Book Trailer for Protected, Spirian Saga Book 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessage
If do not distrub is on first double tap the status bar at the top of the screen. Next swipe up with three fingers to access the control center. Next swipe to do not distrub and turn it off. If it is notification center first go to settings Next go to notification center. Next go to messages. Next check the notification style and make sure if banners is selected. Next check to see if show in lock screen is on as well. Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, It’s likely something to do with Notification Centre. You could have “Do Not Disturb” activated or you may have changed a setting within there that stopped those notifications. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Rowena Portch row...@rowenaportch.com wrote: I used to hear my new messages in iMessage as they arrived. Now, I don’t hear anything. Is there some sort of setting that I may have changed? R o w e n a P o r t c h Author of the Spirian Saga RowenaPortch.com View the Book Trailer for Protected, Spirian Saga Book 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hello Jonnathan. About bluetooth pairing on the I phone, when I've paired or tried to pair my braille display with my I phone 5S, It is hit and miss because even though I type the passcode in and try to locate the pairing button, the I phone normally says that the pairing was unsuccessful. It takes me 5 or six times and by that time I'd like to shout at my phone. Have you seen this problem? It happens with the Apex as well so this problem is with all braille displays and it's an Apple problem I believe. Kawal. On 13 May 2014, at 04:18 pm, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Jonathan. I have an issue on the IPhone with focus 40, which I do not know how to get apple to understand and fix as soon as possible. Can you help? I have contacted accessibility a lot of times, I am afraid they could understand I was angry the last time. I have chosen the focus 40 blue, because it at the time I got it you could go to the next display line with the left hand, this functionality has been destroyed if I had known I would not have chosen the focus display, now you can only go to the next display line with the wright hand on that little button on the front in the wright end, this change has made the display unusable for me. I would be happy if you can help. Best regards Annie. Den 13/05/2014 kl. 17.18 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
You are probably taking too long to enter the pairing code. You only have six seconds. Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Jonnathan. About bluetooth pairing on the I phone, when I've paired or tried to pair my braille display with my I phone 5S, It is hit and miss because even though I type the passcode in and try to locate the pairing button, the I phone normally says that the pairing was unsuccessful. It takes me 5 or six times and by that time I'd like to shout at my phone. Have you seen this problem? It happens with the Apex as well so this problem is with all braille displays and it's an Apple problem I believe. Kawal. On 13 May 2014, at 04:18 pm, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
I believe the pairing button is at the top right part of the screen. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Gigi On May 13, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Jonnathan. About bluetooth pairing on the I phone, when I've paired or tried to pair my braille display with my I phone 5S, It is hit and miss because even though I type the passcode in and try to locate the pairing button, the I phone normally says that the pairing was unsuccessful. It takes me 5 or six times and by that time I'd like to shout at my phone. Have you seen this problem? It happens with the Apex as well so this problem is with all braille displays and it's an Apple problem I believe. Kawal. On 13 May 2014, at 04:18 pm, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Actually, Jonathan, for me anyway, I can braille as fast as I want to on my Braille Edge 40. That didn't use to be the case, but it sure is these days. When I had a Focus 40, I could braille on it real fast. I can also braille as fast as I want on the iPhone with my Braille Edge 40. It's the Focus 14 for me that is my problem child. Regards, Gigi On May 13, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can agree, I hope, that Braille displays are too expensive not to stay working once you get one. This situation is making me a little nervous about the long-term use of this display because how do I know that, even if it is fixed for now, it won't become unfixed down the road.
Re: iTunes Store Question
ok thank you On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. No, you would have to sign in with your american apple ID. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4 On May 13, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Krysti .Power happypuppy...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone my name is Krysti and i have a question about the iTunes store if i buy something in the iTunes US store can i still download content i bought from the US store in my Canadian account -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessage
Okay, I've checked my notifications, and banners is enabled for iMessages. It does announce that, but when I activate the window, it used to read the last message received. It also used to read the last message so long as I remained in the iMessage program. I didn't have to navigate away from the text field to hear the next reply. On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:58:14 AM UTC-7, Rowena Portch wrote: I used to hear my new messages in iMessage as they arrived. Now, I don’t hear anything. Is there some sort of setting that I may have changed? *R o w e n a P o r t c h* *Author of the Spirian Saga* RowenaPortch.com View the Book Trailer for Protected, Spirian Saga Book 1http://rowenaportch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Protected.mov -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
If I braille fast on my 40 using my iPhone, I get extraneous dots. It is so very much annoying at times because I have to keep deleting things! I get to the same thing if I use an apex as well. On 13 May 2014, at 07:48 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Actually, Jonathan, for me anyway, I can braille as fast as I want to on my Braille Edge 40. That didn't use to be the case, but it sure is these days. When I had a Focus 40, I could braille on it real fast. I can also braille as fast as I want on the iPhone with my Braille Edge 40. It's the Focus 14 for me that is my problem child. Regards, Gigi On May 13, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh computers. The other thing is, mine is horrible even in USB mode. This display is so bad even in USB mode that it's almost unusable. I am sure that you can
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
Alex and others, Thanks. I just created an icloud email account and will work on moving mails from Gmail. This is when I do housekeeping in the Windows side and hopefully make it easier. I kind of wanted to change addresses anyway. :) Quote of the nanosecond . . . How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered? Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 5/12/2014 7:26 PM, Alex Hall wrote: I should first say that I use my email account for pretty much everything, and have thousands of emails across several folders. I also use it on my Mac, iPhone, and sometimes a second Mac, plus a beta OS X partition on my main Mac. So, issues that you don't care about are important to me, which will affect my answers. First, Gmail's web interface, once you go to the basic page, is much easier to use. The iCloud web interface is usable, but is not as convenient and can be confusing. Reading messages isn't a problem, but setting up rules or aliases can get frustrating at times. Still, it is doable. Second, iCloud is really easy to set up. Gmail requires you to enter a whole bunch of settings, like any email account, and I've had no end of trouble sending ever since I enabled two-factor authentication. On the other hand, so long as you are on an Apple device, setting up iCloud mail is as easy as signing into your Apple account (which you'd likely do anyway) and ticking the mail checkbox. As soon as you do, your account is set up and your mail syncs over via IMAP. Third, Apple's IMAP implementation is normal. No all mail folder, no wondering if trashed messages were deleted or archived, no having tons of auto-saved in-progress messages filling up your drafts, no getting multiple copies of messages you had given multiple tags... Fourth, iCloud gives you your main address, plus three aliases you can use. My real iCloud address isn't mehg...@icloud.com, that's an alias. If I ever needed to, I could turn it off. Or, you can make an alias for work and one for home, or one for newsletters and online accounts, anything. While Gmail does let you modify your address with plus signs and periods, it does not let you use completely different usernames like iCloud does. There are other differences, and google will have them all covered, I'm sure. For you though, I think the biggest plus would be the standard IMAP, and the biggest minus would be the simple act of switching all your mailing list subscriptions and the address all your contacts use. On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
I made the transition from gmail to iCloud a few months ago as for me I was having severe issues with gmail on my iMac. Yes, I know a lot of people haven't had any issues, and to those lucky ones that is great. For those of you thinking about switching I would say go for it, and you can set up your gmail to forward to your iCloud account if you want to make sure you don't miss anything which I am still doing. I would agree that setting up mail rules on the iCloud website is a little tricky, and could be designed much better, but once you get your rules set up you will be good to go. The key to setting up rules and getting them to save is you actually have to click two done buttons, I kept missing that second one and couldn't figure out why in the world my rules wouldn't save, but I have noticed that iCloud is much faster with VoiceOver on the mac. Is it perfect, absolutely not, but if gmail is slowing your computer to a crawl, I would highly suggest removing it from your computer, your blood pressure will go down. Good luck. On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I have the lists I read most often on iCloud, and some others on Gmail. I still use Gmail as a secondary email address. Setting up filters on iCloud is quite tricky if you want them on all your devices, but very solid once it's set up. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 13, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
The other thing about iCloud.com is that, once you get to the Mail portion, you must interact with the frame at the top of the page. Here's the trick, though: whenever you make a change, like clicking a different button, you must stop interacting and then interact again. Things may be different now, but that's what I had to do a few months ago, and everything worked alright. On May 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: I made the transition from gmail to iCloud a few months ago as for me I was having severe issues with gmail on my iMac. Yes, I know a lot of people haven't had any issues, and to those lucky ones that is great. For those of you thinking about switching I would say go for it, and you can set up your gmail to forward to your iCloud account if you want to make sure you don't miss anything which I am still doing. I would agree that setting up mail rules on the iCloud website is a little tricky, and could be designed much better, but once you get your rules set up you will be good to go. The key to setting up rules and getting them to save is you actually have to click two done buttons, I kept missing that second one and couldn't figure out why in the world my rules wouldn't save, but I have noticed that iCloud is much faster with VoiceOver on the mac. Is it perfect, absolutely not, but if gmail is slowing your computer to a crawl, I would highly suggest removing it from your computer, your blood pressure will go down. Good luck. On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I have the lists I read most often on iCloud, and some others on Gmail. I still use Gmail as a secondary email address. Setting up filters on iCloud is quite tricky if you want them on all your devices, but very solid once it's set up. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 13, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
On the mac go to System Preferences iCloud interact with the services table and check photos. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/05/2014 22:48, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: working with numbers
Hi, what you are referring to sounds like moving to regions with Control arrows. There is no such command in numbers that I am aware of. I was a big Excel fan and I too found this to be a problem at first. But, because numbers uses a canvas system as opposed to a large spreadsheet, with tables being placed on the canvas and containing data, there are no spaces between datasets like in excel. I solve the problem of large spreadsheets by using a large number of smaller tables to contain my data. Then, if needed, I can filter the table for the data I want to see. Usually the tables are small enough that I don't have any trouble navigating them and finding what I'm looking for. as to selecting columns and rows, you can simply press shift command arrow keys to select from the current cell to the last cell in the row or column. Also, you can access the entire column or row for sorting and filtering and other functions by pressing shift VO slash ( above the return key), then arrow up or down to the row or column selector, and then arrow keys to move to the desired row or column. bring up the context menu (VO shift M) to sort the row/column etc. I was skeptical at first about numbers vs Excel, but I've transferred my entire personal accounting system over to numbers and find it superior to excel in many ways. The formula editor is a vast improvement over that of excel and I'm getting so I like the canvas arrangement over excel's one large spreadsheet system. It's better for data organization in my opinion. There's a lot of messages on the Mail-archive.com site about numbers. Just keep asking your numbers questions here if you can't find what you need there. On May 13, 2014, at 12:33 PM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I did my first real steps with numbers 13 and I have some questions: I was looking after some windows alike navigation options I couldn't find in the hotkey summary: move to the next/ previous cel with contents up/down or left/right, IN ms office , I think you can do this with control +up/down or left/right, IN the hotkey summary, there are also some hotkeys that are based on the mouse. e.g. to select a whole row/column, you should click on a cel in that row/column and then select the corresponding number for the row or letter for the column. Does this work with voiceover? If there are special hints for iWork's 13 with voiceover and specially numbers, it would be great to hear of it. Kind regards, William Windels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi kawl, No, I've not seen this. I pair them quite a lot and have never had an issue. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/05/2014, at 5:42 am, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Jonnathan. About bluetooth pairing on the I phone, when I've paired or tried to pair my braille display with my I phone 5S, It is hit and miss because even though I type the passcode in and try to locate the pairing button, the I phone normally says that the pairing was unsuccessful. It takes me 5 or six times and by that time I'd like to shout at my phone. Have you seen this problem? It happens with the Apex as well so this problem is with all braille displays and it's an Apple problem I believe. Kawal. On 13 May 2014, at 04:18 pm, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to have written the drivers. Oh, and to Kawl, very sorry for getting your gender wrong. Major oops. :). Jonathan On 13/05/2014, at 1:40 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan Okay, but the only problem is that Apple says that freedom scientific has to turn in driver information to them I was told that my focus 14 could run on any computer. It will not pair with a Mac, and I know that this is just not like him Braille display that's the problem because another focus 14 will not pair with other Macintosh
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Annie, I wish I could. I'd prefer to advance the display from the left hand side as well, but since Apple make the drivers and the interface, this ball is entirely in their court. At least with the Mac, you can reassign the functions. The very least they might do is offer a reverse panning option in the iOS Braille settings, but whether they do it or not is totally up to them. We can only hope enough users request it. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/05/2014, at 5:53 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jonathan. I have an issue on the IPhone with focus 40, which I do not know how to get apple to understand and fix as soon as possible. Can you help? I have contacted accessibility a lot of times, I am afraid they could understand I was angry the last time. I have chosen the focus 40 blue, because it at the time I got it you could go to the next display line with the left hand, this functionality has been destroyed if I had known I would not have chosen the focus display, now you can only go to the next display line with the wright hand on that little button on the front in the wright end, this change has made the display unusable for me. I would be happy if you can help. Best regards Annie. Den 13/05/2014 kl. 17.18 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist and are functioning for many people but not for some others. I'm not at all minimising your frustration but that is why I attempted to explain the relationship between a Braille display and the screen reader developer in my previous message. Apple Braille can be quite quirky, and that's the case with any display. But if it's not working at all, then that's something Freedom Scientific is always happy to help any screen reader developer work on if they need help. The fact that the Focus family is working, and working well for many customers, is testimony to the fact that Apple not only have the drivers but the documentation to
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
Hi, If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar. The My PhotoStream should be checked and the Automatic Import should be checked as well. I don't check the Automatic Upload as it fills up my iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into my PhotoStream. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iMessage
Hmmm. I've never had Messages behave that way for me, sounds pretty useful though. I wonder if that has something to do with Live Regions. Not sure though. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Rowena Portch rowenapor...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I've checked my notifications, and banners is enabled for iMessages. It does announce that, but when I activate the window, it used to read the last message received. It also used to read the last message so long as I remained in the iMessage program. I didn't have to navigate away from the text field to hear the next reply. On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:58:14 AM UTC-7, Rowena Portch wrote: I used to hear my new messages in iMessage as they arrived. Now, I don't hear anything. Is there some sort of setting that I may have changed? R o w e n a P o r t c h Author of the Spirian Saga RowenaPortch.com View the Book Trailer for Protected, Spirian Saga Book 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
if my mom would delete it on her iphone would it be deleted on my mac? Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 12:35 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha scritto: Hi, If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar. The My PhotoStream should be checked and the Automatic Import should be checked as well. I don't check the Automatic Upload as it fills up my iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into my PhotoStream. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?
Hi, No, not really. What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the iPhone. Now, if your Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos turned on within the iCloud pane of System Preferences, then you're both accessing the same PhotoStream. So, when you set the iCloud Pref in iPhoto as I suggested in my last post, those pictures that were automatically uploaded to the iCloud PhotoStream will also be automatically downloaded to your Mac when you open iPhoto. They will actually appear in two places. They will be both in the PhotoStream area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be placed into your Events area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever month it happens to be. Therefore, if your Mom deletes them from her iPhone, they are actually only deleted from her iPhone, they will remain within the PhotoStream. If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be removed from the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too, but, since they are already moved over into the Events area of iPhoto on your Mac, then you will still have a copy of them on your Mac. Think of the PhotoStream as just a Cloud-based area for temporary storage of your photos. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: if my mom would delete it on her iphone would it be deleted on my mac? Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 12:35 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha scritto: Hi, If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar. The My PhotoStream should be checked and the Automatic Import should be checked as well. I don't check the Automatic Upload as it fills up my iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into my PhotoStream. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 13, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod going to my mac, i see all my photos on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: download a linked file from an email?
Just to elaborate on what Chris said: Whenever you want to download a PDF, video or audio file which has opened in Safari, just press command-l to navigate to the address bar, and then press option-return to download the file to your Downloads folder. This works for ordinary webpages too if you want to download them for some reason. Best, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: working with numbers
Hi William, Phil's given you a great overview. We've had many discussions on this list about different tricks with Numbers, including how to rename tables and a number of other things. You can Google for all those and read them on the archives. But if you have any specific questions while you're working your way through Numbers feel free to ask them and we'll do our best. Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Viewing Email Attachments | Since When Did They Become So Easy?
Hi all, I know this is not news to many of you, but it might be for some of you so thought I'd share it. I think when Mavericks first came out email attachments in Mail were pretty inaccessible unless you downloaded them from the option in the file menu. Well, now you can navigate to them in the body of the message and press VO-space on them. The advantage of this method is you can just choose to open the attachment, rather than downloading and saving it. So you can read it first, for instance, before deciding whether or not you need to save a copy. It's pretty handy. If someone sends me a scanned PDF, for instance, I just VO-space on it, choose open in FineReader, and then just export and save the OCR-ed version. I only really stumbled upon this a few weeks ago, so not sure if it was always around in Mavericks or when it got introduced. I seem to remember being able to do this (or something similar) in Mountain Lion, but I used to be happy downloading and saving all my attachments back then as I didn't get as many. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Viewing Email Attachments | Since When Did They Become So Easy?
I recently discovered this as well. My usual method of previewing attachments is to press cmd-y on the email, but that only works with one attachment, if an email has multiple ones, it might not work, or you might only get one. I love how many options Mail offers for attachments. On May 13, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is not news to many of you, but it might be for some of you so thought I'd share it. I think when Mavericks first came out email attachments in Mail were pretty inaccessible unless you downloaded them from the option in the file menu. Well, now you can navigate to them in the body of the message and press VO-space on them. The advantage of this method is you can just choose to open the attachment, rather than downloading and saving it. So you can read it first, for instance, before deciding whether or not you need to save a copy. It's pretty handy. If someone sends me a scanned PDF, for instance, I just VO-space on it, choose open in FineReader, and then just export and save the OCR-ed version. I only really stumbled upon this a few weeks ago, so not sure if it was always around in Mavericks or when it got introduced. I seem to remember being able to do this (or something similar) in Mountain Lion, but I used to be happy downloading and saving all my attachments back then as I didn't get as many. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Jonathan. Thank you for answering this. I have been thinking about something. Could freedom make a reverse possibility in the firmware, so that we could solve it that way. I do not really understand why apple needs to use these beautiful buttons which came instead of the wheels to do other things than pan. This display started really good because you had the panning posibility in both sides of the display. I sent apple 5 solutions listed a while ago, and I have done it many times. I hope a lot of other people will do the same - please. Best regards Annie. Den 14/05/2014 kl. 00.21 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Annie, I wish I could. I'd prefer to advance the display from the left hand side as well, but since Apple make the drivers and the interface, this ball is entirely in their court. At least with the Mac, you can reassign the functions. The very least they might do is offer a reverse panning option in the iOS Braille settings, but whether they do it or not is totally up to them. We can only hope enough users request it. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/05/2014, at 5:53 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jonathan. I have an issue on the IPhone with focus 40, which I do not know how to get apple to understand and fix as soon as possible. Can you help? I have contacted accessibility a lot of times, I am afraid they could understand I was angry the last time. I have chosen the focus 40 blue, because it at the time I got it you could go to the next display line with the left hand, this functionality has been destroyed if I had known I would not have chosen the focus display, now you can only go to the next display line with the wright hand on that little button on the front in the wright end, this change has made the display unusable for me. I would be happy if you can help. Best regards Annie. Den 13/05/2014 kl. 17.18 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People who can help really need you to tell them what specifically you consider horrible, what you're doing, what results you are hoping for and what results you get. And obviously I'm very keen to be helpful because you're right, any Braille display is an investment that should last you a long time. I can only tell you that drivers exist
XML and Epub files Used for Louis Braille Translation?
Hi, all, Since Louis doesn't specifically transcribe from epub format, I'm wondering if xml is closely related enough that i can rename an epub to an xml file and try transcribing from it? I have tried using Calibre to convert from epub to rtf, but I get strange character's in place of quotes, apostrophes, and long dashes. thanks, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: No Luck with the Focus Blue 40
Hi Annie, there may be problems getting this done, but we'll bounce it around for sure and have a look at the logistics and implications. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/05/2014, at 12:40 pm, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jonathan. Thank you for answering this. I have been thinking about something. Could freedom make a reverse possibility in the firmware, so that we could solve it that way. I do not really understand why apple needs to use these beautiful buttons which came instead of the wheels to do other things than pan. This display started really good because you had the panning posibility in both sides of the display. I sent apple 5 solutions listed a while ago, and I have done it many times. I hope a lot of other people will do the same - please. Best regards Annie. Den 14/05/2014 kl. 00.21 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Annie, I wish I could. I'd prefer to advance the display from the left hand side as well, but since Apple make the drivers and the interface, this ball is entirely in their court. At least with the Mac, you can reassign the functions. The very least they might do is offer a reverse panning option in the iOS Braille settings, but whether they do it or not is totally up to them. We can only hope enough users request it. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 14/05/2014, at 5:53 am, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jonathan. I have an issue on the IPhone with focus 40, which I do not know how to get apple to understand and fix as soon as possible. Can you help? I have contacted accessibility a lot of times, I am afraid they could understand I was angry the last time. I have chosen the focus 40 blue, because it at the time I got it you could go to the next display line with the left hand, this functionality has been destroyed if I had known I would not have chosen the focus display, now you can only go to the next display line with the wright hand on that little button on the front in the wright end, this change has made the display unusable for me. I would be happy if you can help. Best regards Annie. Den 13/05/2014 kl. 17.18 skrev Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org: Hi Gigi, I'll see if I can reproduce your speed issue, there's certainly an issue with all Braille displays and Brailling too slowly on Apple devices, but I'll try and see if there's anything Focus 14 Blue specific with Brailling too fast. But again, this will be a driver issue. It's not an issue with the display itself and on the iPhone and in Windows I can go at a very good speed. So this will be something, if it exists, that Apple will need to address. Apple has all the driver specs but FS will help in whatever way they can if needed. I'll also see if an appropriate person at FS can reach out to Apple to say there's been this feedback. Certainly on iPhone, the Focus line is one of the most reliable displays of the bunch in terms of pairing, so it would be good to see that experience replicated with Mac. On 13/05/2014, at 10:38 pm, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Jonathan When I say horrible, I guess I need to be more specific. It has to do with writing on the display with the keyboard. The timing of the keys is off somehowh if you write the letter T, for example, dots to three maybe recognized first and then dots 45 may be recognized later. . If that is, you Braille too fast. If I Braille slow enough, that is, real slow, I can get my computer to recognize what I'm imputting. It is better in computer Braille. I can read on the display just fine. However, I got it so that I could write on its keyboard. And that is the very thing I'm having trouble with. I have a 2011 MacBook Pro with 8 GB of memory because I got it updated. Can you think of a setting in voiceover that I could change that would make this better? I am pretty sure that it is not my unit because a representative of Crystal vision went to the Apple Store and tried to pair his focus 14 with one of their computers. It didn't work. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 3:53 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: At the moment my display does not work on the Mac via blue tooth and my i Mac is a 2012 model late! That's OK about my gender Jonnathan! I love this display so much that got another for work through the Government! On 13 May 2014, at 02:59 am, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Gigi. I am replying to you by Brailling into my Focus 14 Blue, connected to a Macbook Air mid-2013 running Mavericks. Apple not only have the drivers, they also include them in iOS. When you say the display is horrible in USB, there are no specifics I can respond to I'm afraid. People
Anyone use run keeper?
I tried this app several times when I started using this peddle device thing a friend of mine gave us to use that you just set infront of a chair and use, which I've learned to love really quickly, and love the fact that the app keeps track of the time you've been working out for you so I don't have to manually set the timer on my phone, but can't figure out for the life of me how to figure out how many calories I've burned using the thing, sense it has about 4 different types of numbers on the screen when I scroll around it. If anyone else has used this app, can you please give me some tips? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Anyone use run keeper?
Used to use it. I don't anymore, I couldn't figure that out either. I'm glad it's free! Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this app several times when I started using this peddle device thing a friend of mine gave us to use that you just set infront of a chair and use, which I've learned to love really quickly, and love the fact that the app keeps track of the time you've been working out for you so I don't have to manually set the timer on my phone, but can't figure out for the life of me how to figure out how many calories I've burned using the thing, sense it has about 4 different types of numbers on the screen when I scroll around it. If anyone else has used this app, can you please give me some tips? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Viewing Email Attachments | Since When Did They Become So Easy?
Nick, This has always been available. The difficulty I have had is when the attachment is embedded somewhere within the body of the message. The trick for me has been locating the attachment. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 May 2014, at 11:40, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I know this is not news to many of you, but it might be for some of you so thought I'd share it. I think when Mavericks first came out email attachments in Mail were pretty inaccessible unless you downloaded them from the option in the file menu. Well, now you can navigate to them in the body of the message and press VO-space on them. The advantage of this method is you can just choose to open the attachment, rather than downloading and saving it. So you can read it first, for instance, before deciding whether or not you need to save a copy. It's pretty handy. If someone sends me a scanned PDF, for instance, I just VO-space on it, choose open in FineReader, and then just export and save the OCR-ed version. I only really stumbled upon this a few weeks ago, so not sure if it was always around in Mavericks or when it got introduced. I seem to remember being able to do this (or something similar) in Mountain Lion, but I used to be happy downloading and saving all my attachments back then as I didn't get as many. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
I set up the iCloud email account from my iPhone. Now to make aliases which I assume has to be done on the Mac? Is it done in preferences or do I need to sign back into the iCloud site? Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you think something's bad, try it again and see. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 5/13/2014 2:28 PM, Alex Hall wrote: The other thing about iCloud.com is that, once you get to the Mail portion, you must interact with the frame at the top of the page. Here's the trick, though: whenever you make a change, like clicking a different button, you must stop interacting and then interact again. Things may be different now, but that's what I had to do a few months ago, and everything worked alright. On May 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: I made the transition from gmail to iCloud a few months ago as for me I was having severe issues with gmail on my iMac. Yes, I know a lot of people haven't had any issues, and to those lucky ones that is great. For those of you thinking about switching I would say go for it, and you can set up your gmail to forward to your iCloud account if you want to make sure you don't miss anything which I am still doing. I would agree that setting up mail rules on the iCloud website is a little tricky, and could be designed much better, but once you get your rules set up you will be good to go. The key to setting up rules and getting them to save is you actually have to click two done buttons, I kept missing that second one and couldn't figure out why in the world my rules wouldn't save, but I have noticed that iCloud is much faster with VoiceOver on the mac. Is it perfect, absolutely not, but if gmail is slowing your computer to a crawl, I would highly suggest removing it from your computer , your blood pressure will go down. Good luck. On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I have the lists I read most often on iCloud, and some others on Gmail. I still use Gmail as a secondary email address. Setting up filters on iCloud is quite tricky if you want them on all your devices, but very solid once it's set up. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 13, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
Re: iCloud vs Gmail
I believe you must use iCloud.com. Again, you'll need to keep un-interacting and re-interacting with the frame if things don't seem to be updating correctly. It's a little tedious, but doable, and you only need to do it once. On May 13, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: I set up the iCloud email account from my iPhone. Now to make aliases which I assume has to be done on the Mac? Is it done in preferences or do I need to sign back into the iCloud site? Quote of the nanosecond . . . If you think something's bad, try it again and see. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 5/13/2014 2:28 PM, Alex Hall wrote: The other thing about iCloud.com is that, once you get to the Mail portion, you must interact with the frame at the top of the page. Here's the trick, though: whenever you make a change, like clicking a different button, you must stop interacting and then interact again. Things may be different now, but that's what I had to do a few months ago, and everything worked alright. On May 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote: I made the transition from gmail to iCloud a few months ago as for me I was having severe issues with gmail on my iMac. Yes, I know a lot of people haven't had any issues, and to those lucky ones that is great. For those of you thinking about switching I would say go for it, and you can set up your gmail to forward to your iCloud account if you want to make sure you don't miss anything which I am still doing. I would agree that setting up mail rules on the iCloud website is a little tricky, and could be designed much better, but once you get your rules set up you will be good to go. The key to setting up rules and getting them to save is you actually have to click two done buttons, I kept missing that second one and couldn't figure out why in the world my rules wouldn't save, but I have noticed that iCloud is much faster with VoiceOver on the mac. Is it perfect, absolutely not, but if gmail is slowing your computer to a crawl, I would highly suggest removing it from your computer , your blood pressure will go down. Good luck. On May 13, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I have the lists I read most often on iCloud, and some others on Gmail. I still use Gmail as a secondary email address. Setting up filters on iCloud is quite tricky if you want them on all your devices, but very solid once it's set up. HtH, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook On May 13, 2014, at 3:44 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: I started using iCloud for this list so that I could take messages off real fast of all my devices. I don't think I could've managed this list if I had not put it on to iCloud. Before I did that, I was deleting everything twice. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On May 13, 2014, at 12:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Robert and all. The reason why I stopped using Gmail is because it has become unreliable. I've heard other people experience the same issues I was facing, mainly messages not showing up in clients that I've configured the account for a few weeks and after a few weeks they finally appear. Ever since I made the switch to iCloud, I haven't looked back. I even configured Microsoft Office in my Windows 7 VM to use iCloud email using the iCloud app you can download for Windows. If I were you, I'd ditch Gmail altogether and go with iCloud, but if you like Gmail then stick to what you prefer. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On May 12, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote: I hardly use my icloud account. I recommend gmail. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Robert C gone.to.da...@gmail.com wrote: Please, this is not an invitation to go off on the Gmail issues. I am not yet using the Mac for mail so am taking this time to research options before I do the work. I know some of you have switched from Gmail to iCloud. How well is it working and was it difficult to make the switch and set things up with iCloud? I use a Gmail IMAP account for email lists and currently running Thunderbird in Windows. I have created rules and have had no problems with that at all. I save the minimum number of emails, the rest get trashed weekly and would hazard a guess that I probably have less than 1,000 emails. This account will not be used on other devices, just the Mac. Have 2 other accounts for that and neither are used for email lists so no rules necessary. Am interested in feedback on how things are going with your iCloud accounts. Quote of the nanosecond . . . Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch or you'll have to pee. Robert Annie Yanni ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this
