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:) I think you may soon be a happy watch user. First, the next OS release is supposedly a great deal faster. I’ve found the current release to be pretty good but yes there are times especially loading apps that things start to crawl. Supposedly, that’s addressed. There was mention in the

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Jonathan, I'm wanting to be able to put a sim card in to my apple watch then I wouldn't need the phone! Shame my watch is working slower than a fat kid running backwards. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

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Scott, Chuck and Phil; First off, are you three just trying to make my life difficult or do you really enjoy being disruptive to the list this much? :) You know, honestly, regardless of whatever side of this so-called argument you feel you are on, can you at least grow up and either be polite

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Phil, thank you for making my point for me. Christians are the most unchristian people on the planet. Of course since your point is completely with out validity you resort to the only thing you have left, name calling. You criticize what you don’t understand the only way you can with names

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•••cˆc Wow, now I would love to have VR audio based feedback, much like Microsoft was using in some blogs a year ago. On a related note, I read in tidbits a comparison of the details provided by Apple Maps vs Google Maps. Part three of the article should have some accessibility remarks, keep

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Ahh, ! The thread that would not die! What a nasty, Superior little Poindexter! Sent from my IPhone > On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Chuck, this is delusional thinking. > > I can prove there was a singularity, I can point a dish in the sky and

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Chuck, this is delusional thinking. I can prove there was a singularity, I can point a dish in the sky and show you on devices you understand if you’re in the audio game the distribution of radiation across the sky and how it originates from a central singularity. To keep it on topic, I can

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Here’s a good article on lightning that answers many questions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector) It also deals with the Apple licensing chip being cracked and also how the processor enables the cable to be inserted either way. Looks from this that the battery / power leads

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Hi! A question comes to me regarding the lightning jack. How much power can you take from the lightning jack versus headphone jack to drive a pair of headphones? I now talk about planar headphones or magnetostatic once that for example Audeze makes. /A > 2 juli 2016 kl. 16:47 skrev CHUCK REICHEL

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E.T, I use the iPhone regular and never used any adapters for phones. Your idea of a neck loop is a good one. Vaughn On 7/2/16, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > Hi E.T. > Just like the design of the iphone, There is a designer! :) > This fact is indisputable! :) > To keep

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Hi All, Firstly, this is not targeted at anyone in particular. I have received requests off-list from concerned listers about this topic. So I want to just ask that we please purge the thinly veiled religious commentary from this thread and just get back to the actual technological aspects of

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Hi E.T. Just like the design of the iphone, There is a designer! :) This fact is indisputable! :) To keep it on topic the head set jack was designed for a specific purpose not randomly! LOL The removal of the jack is by design also! Nothing comes from nothing! HUNGH sounds like a song from

Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

Scott, A cool design that was hundreds of thousands of years in the making. Evolution at work. Same principle that we see with the iPhone. Yes its possible the human race was seeded. After all our solar system is quite young compared to the galaxy we fondly know as the Milky Way.

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Nah, no design, none needed. Enough variations yield the same results. Evolution is also not a brute force process like the unintelligent design folks would like to have us believe. It is totally iterative and builds on previous successes so just like you don’t brute force ciphers to crack

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Cochlear does not offer Bluetooth connectivity. Its either direct connect or telecoil. The newest processors now have Resound wireless. There is a huge difference in research of a medical nature and of other types such as computers and transportation. I do not know what the time frame

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The cochlear, without an adapter, seems to have telecoil only. This is different from Bluetooth. I tried enabling the Bluetooth on the iPhone and the telecoil on the implants but all I get is a buzzing... Scott, very nice writing. It is very complex, the brain, signals, nerves, ... And a great

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The advantage as far as I can see it, with this technology is, one does not need to enable telecoil. And since a neckloop is not required, the sound is stereo if one has both ears working. The receiver portion of the add on is totally built into the hearing device. I am not aware

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Hi Scott, Very nice! :) What a cool design we are! :) Talk soon Chuck On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Vaughn, I know native bluetooth support exists. I’ll dig around through some > articles for you. Glad to help you out. It sounds like you and some others > who use

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Let me ask a question. If you already have an 8th inch interface with jack on the end you plug in to headphone ports now, why not just add a $20 bluetooth to 8th inch adapter instead of spending huge dollars on custom clips? Some plantronics headsets come with these and or 3rd parties make

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Vaughn, I know native bluetooth support exists. I’ll dig around through some articles for you. Glad to help you out. It sounds like you and some others who use hearing devices could benefit from this. I’m very very interested in human / machine interfaces. And yes, total tech nerd and

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Vaughn, We are always facing the new which will become old. There is no perfect solution for the hearing impaired, only better as time marches on. The Phone Clip (if this is the device you mention) is an exampe of better. I do not have one, its not in my budget but it looks to be as

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Scott, I be interested in what you find on Bluetooth. As far as I know, and did some reading on the Cochlear's site, a clip is required. I would not mind using a Bluetooth adapter -- especially when wanting to connect to a Bluetooth speaker for performances situations to block out the obnoxious

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Well, there is VoiceVision, which is dead, no longer updated at all, but nope, not the vOICe. I’ve brought it up several times, but Peter either isn’t receptive to iOS and all, or doesn’t have the money, resources, or doesn’t see the need to develop for iOS and macOS. Sent from my Mac. Devin

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I thought the VOIC was available on IOS, it’s not? I know Android obviously. Peter is on the eyes free list you aught to bring it up, but off list so you don’t get flamed.:) Once it’s digital and all data the options are far greater. As Sabahattin rightly points out they could have a bad

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Oh man, video too? I didn’t think of that. Now if only some one would port the vOICe: seeingwithsound.com , to iOS, then … Then the wheel of fate would really be turning! Sent from my Mac. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com > On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Scott Granados

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Devin, that’s the spirit! That’s what I’m saying, some are poopooing the whole idea with out even seeing it. I think it was Ricardo that was mentioning the inclusion of health censors which could track your health stats while wearing the headphones. Your ideas with VR are also good. I had

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One thing that interests me is the digital part of Lightning adaptors. Imagine EarPods that can detect what you can and can’t hear as an individual, kind of like MyNoise’s calibration stuff, but through hardware and automatic. Or, it could do noise blocking, or turn down volume when someone

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See adapters don’t scare me, like you I have piles of them in the work bag so I’m ready for what ever situation. Lots of fiber pigtails, ST connectors, SC connectors, single and multi mode, ethernet cables, thunderbolt to ethernet and thunderbolt to VGA, 8th inch to quarter inch headphone

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And that's agood point, I've got so many adaptors now that I wish there was a standard for all devices. Lightening or USB C for notebooks and tablets / phones, I've got lightening adaptors for my iPad and iPhone that do hdmi,vga,dvi, sd cards, USB and other things, If Only they worked in my

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Some cochlear implants have direct bluetooth support so an adapter isn’t necessary. You’d pair right with the electronics package. I’m reading a good technical article about how these work. It would be trivial to build a lightning interface in to the existing electronics package that

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Hi! One thing that makes me think is when we will have the first headphones with Airplay support? Or is this something i could get on dreaming about? /A > 30 juni 2016 kl. 13:35 skrev Scott Granados : > > Yes, yes, I’m with you. Totally understand and we’re on the same

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David, I think there are a few on this group who are deaf to your needs. I, too, am deaf, and use bilateral cochlear implants. What saddens me about the iPhone is that there is no built in function for cochlear users -- instead we have to buy a clip to connect to the iPhone. I personally use

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Scott, exactly. A common lingua franca for networked speakers and a commitment for USB, HDMI and SPDIF would suit me, and I imagine a lot of people, down to the ground. We can start by looking at the UPnP forum, which show us by glowing example how not to do it. :) But they had the right

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Yes, yes, I’m with you. Totally understand and we’re on the same page. My receiver I speak of has all sorts of different services that are completely separate. My XM has nothing to do with iTunes which is a different spec from google and there’s probably a dozen different technologies I could

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Actually, there will be adapters that have both lightning and 3.5mm headphone connector on the same unit. Its a strange world. Need to adapt. Take care > 30. jun. 2016 kl. 09.44 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu : > > More confirmation here: >

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More confirmation here: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/cirrus-logic-mfi-lightning-headphone-dev-kit/ Lightning. Still not happy about it, but then I’m not buying an iPhone 7, so it’s OK, for now. Gotta love the Apple pundits continuing to be completely, ahem, tone deaf on the issue.

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Hi, While I don't wish to minimize your concerns David, the iPhone and Apple in general is known for stepping out and taking chances with change. The iMac was introduced with no floppy disk, we got by and soon floppy drives were old news. Pretty well every Mac for years hasn't had a VGA ou

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No one is denying you anything. The iPhone 7 is not even on pre order status. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/29/2016 1:26 PM, David Griffith wrote: I disagree totally. They are denying me a 3.5 headphone jack. On

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Not at all and that is insulting. I am hearing impaired and can only use my phone with earphones. yesterday I had to use my phone whilst charging. Using a speakerphone would not be suitable. At the moment I can simply plug in earpones whilst charging and make the call. How will that be

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I smell a troll! > On Jun 29, 2016, at 4:26 PM, David Griffith wrote: > > I disagree totally. They are denying me a 3.5 headphone jack. > > > > On 29/06/2016 20:52, E.T. wrote: >> Apple is not denying anyone anything. So another adapter might be in >> order. If the

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I disagree totally. They are denying me a 3.5 headphone jack. On 29/06/2016 20:52, E.T. wrote: Apple is not denying anyone anything. So another adapter might be in order. If the iPhone 7 brings new features that everyone will die for, adding one adapter to the mix is minuscule. We really

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Apple is not denying anyone anything. So another adapter might be in order. If the iPhone 7 brings new features that everyone will die for, adding one adapter to the mix is minuscule. We really need to step back and put it all in perspective. And wait to see what Apple is really going to do

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David, this sounds totally unreasonable to me. First, if just losing an 1/8th inch jack upsets you that much you’ll hate android. I use both and the user experience on Android is much more clumsy and half baked. Secondly, that’s just nutty about the adapters. It’s no different than carrying

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I am personally disturbed because 1. I have never found a bluetooth headset loude enough for me as a severely deaf person. 2. I hate with a huge amount options which try to use my hearing aids as an alternative as the sound is also lousy 3. However I get perfect loud fidelity from a large

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So I’m a little confused by this and I’m sure it’s me and not you but let me ask. What do you mean get up off the couch? I have an integrated receiver that has a remote that’s way inaccessible but also is controllable over the web and by all sorts of alternate devices. My fat backside can

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Wooo there’s an example of digital gone wrong. Apple does this though, they have always been non standard. That was one of the wars Woz lost. The days of the open architecture Apple 2 with loads of bays and open specs died with the Mac and Lisa. On 6/27/16, 6:06 AM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"

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Hi. Invested in a Sony Bluetooth Headset and the sound quality is great with plenty of base. They only cost me around £60. I would never go back to a wired headset again. I don’t like the idea of Apple implementing a an lightening connector for their next great invention for their EarPods

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Yes but it would then be a more across the board generic adaptor for all devices Mac book have now the usb c connector for power and everthing else. Why could it not be that and then android go with the same adaptor and on then to other notebooks and tablets -Original Message-

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Nah, I doubt Apple will switch to USB-C for iOS devices. It’s actually thicker and wider than Lightning (albeit faster, too). And then of course there’s always the $$$ Apple would miss out on because of the “Made for iPhone” certification on Lightning peripherals (which is guaranteed using an

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Hi Kimber, To me they are great, execlant sound quality both listening to books and music. Mine cost me around 500 nz dollars but well worth it so far. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Sent:

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Or the older 6.5 mm headphone jack, or even 64kb for running a application in. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness Sent: Monday, 27 June 2016 10:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

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Simon, Are the Bose Bluetooth headphones worth the price? I adore my Bose wired headphones, but because Bluetooth sound quality is generally so lacking, I have been hesitant to shell out the $$ for the Bose Bluetooth option. So in your opinion, are they really all that? Kimber Sent from

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what about the usb c connector, I thought everyone was meant to be heading that direction for a genric connector type. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, 27 June 2016 2:58 AM

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Nope, Don't care, I'll go with what happens, Have a great set of high quality bose Bluetooth headphones that will work with what ever apple do. But this is an issue that all developers of headphones and associated music products will have to sit down and work out a connector to replace the

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Yeah, good speakers aren’t a thing any more because “Good enough”. There must be a solution to this problem. Nobody wants to build up an expensive component system because playing your media from analog or digital sources requires physical effort and requires actually getting up off the sofa.

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Yep, for got about that! Cait > On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:55 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Cait, > Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers! > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM,

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Afraid to say E.T. but we’ve had computers for as long as humans have been on the earth. (regardless of whether little green or grey men helped or not) Whether it’s sun dials, the abacus, slide rule, the protractor, and on an on we’ve had computing devices since the psychedelic mushrooms on

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I’m going to try Android again but my experiences did not mirror yours.  I ended up taking my Galaxy S5 to the local rod and gun club and blasting it with a Remington Autoloader 308 and damn it felt good!  That phone dropped my call do to an unscheduled reboot during an interview one to many

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At the risk of dating my self here, I remember when 8.25 inch floppies were the standard and 64 megabytes, wow I remember when 64K was a big deal. (kilobytes) I paid like 500 dollars for a 64K upgrade card to give me a whopping 128K of memory, that I could only access in 64K blocks at a time

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Good point, interoperability is key. IF it only works on Apple that’s not nearly as good as a standard interface. I buy that argument. That’s something the standards folks should be able to work out though. Funny thing I was just thinking is I wonder if Apple will make the same

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A-men brother! I completely agree with you especially on the mediocre state of audio. I woke up to this in a horrible way not that long ago and posted something to the list about it. I tried to listen to some classical music recently, a piano performance by Andre Watts and oh my God the

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Yeha, if there is an headphone 3.5 mm hole in there, does not mean you can’t use the lightning port instead for headphones or what ever. But if it is gone it is gone Take care > 26. jun. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev Scott Granados : > > Ok two points here, very sad day that

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Cait, Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers! From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: Exactly!! things change over time. does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old

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Hi John, Agreed! Change is coming whether anybody likes it or not, so find what works for you and keep moving! Talk soon Chuck On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:48 PM, John Panarese wrote: >Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with > every technology change. At this

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Honestly, this is the same old same old nonsense that comes around with every technology change. At this point in my life, I wish I had a dime for every change and alteration in technology that people wined and complained and raged against, including myself. Whatever happens, happens. A year

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Exactly!! things change over time. does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old cassettes?? How about those huge 5 and a half inch floppy disks? How about when all the memory you could get was something like 64 megs, and there really wasn’t any portable storage?? yep,

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Some members here may not go back far enough to the days of the many choices we had for headphones. Wired, wired, wired, wired, and wired. (smiles) I really do not get this concern over a possible change in hardware that no one has laid eyes on. But if it is true, its as good as carved

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All this makes me very glad I'm an android user. Whether the demize of the 3.5 mm jack turns out to be a good thing long term or not, I myself am not ready to take that step. I can't even really go for bluetooth headphones which I'd really like to do because I need wired headphones for so

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I’m not against progress, but I’m still for a standard connector if we’re going to replace the 3.5 mm jack. Same goal, different direction. Apple proprietary for something so fundamental as headphones is user-hostile and stupid, but not if we can move as one to an unfragmented, new market of

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Hi Scott, I’m with you hear, with the exception of the point about DRM, all the other points felt trivial to me. He talked about having different spec cords. Not for nothing, people who own Apple products been dealing with that since the first iPod came out using a firewire connection. lol.

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Hi! For me it doesn’t mean anything. I am not worrid at all what ever happens. We are not there yet and when we are then i have to deal with things as they are. One thing though is that i don’t want to drag around more equipment just because it will give me better quality of the audio. I want my

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Sabahattin, I really like your style.:) I’m glad you inject humor along with your well crafted points. Even when I don’t agree with them I love reading them and in general we probably agree much more than not. It’s fun to read your responses! On 6/26/16, 6:29 AM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"

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So wait, let me see if I get your point. You want the powers to give in, include a head phone jack, you like the article and you’re happy you have Bose bt headphones? Did you read the article? ☺ The poster wasn’t exactly supporting the Bluetooth position there. I’m not trying to be snarky

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Ok two points here, very sad day that you have to edit another publication to make it available here. And btw, you missed a word that will almost certainly get the moderators panties twisted in to a neat little bunch.:) Even though that word is totally acceptable on your BBC btw. That being

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Here’s a followup. It’s a rebuke to Daring Fireball’s typically “it’ll all be fine; it’s just the new floppy drive, Apple knows (and does) best” piece (linked to and referred to in the article):

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Hi Mark, Thanks for this, I't has a good ring to it. He's got a lot of points that make good sense, but will the powers listen to us? Glad my bose bt headphones work great. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

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Just bought iPhone SE. Have headphone jack. Works perfectly with the Otterbox Defender case, but i pushed out the defender screen(bad stuff). Lets hope the headphone jack stays on the SE versions. Take care > 26. jun. 2016 kl. 03.39 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Everyone, > >

Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and Stupid, Have Some Dignity

Hello Everyone, Here is an interesting article that I thought you'd like to read, the URL to which is located at the end of the text. NOTE: I edited out the 1 profane word that appears in the original text so as to bring this piece in compliance with our list policies. Enjoy, Mark Taking the