I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
pdas/etc.
OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.
When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want
to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd,
Aside from substituting DVI with DVI-A for HDMI, I agree.
It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets.
Mike Klein wrote:
I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
pdas/etc.
OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.
Then you'd have to have a dongle, no? Dongles are evil...I carry around
too much crap already.
Why would you prefer dvi?
If it were hdmi...it w/have to be v1.3? cause this is only version that
supports HD video with audiosupposedly earlier hdmi versions
wouldn't support full audio when doing
Not sure where to go next on this. (beyond bug filing) Kagu is definitely the
culprit. in that something about updating the screen causes BT sound to cut
out. If you shrink the screen and open for example the browser scrolling and
surfing has no affect on sound. But if you are doing anything
Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Steve Greenland:
Background: I'm a long-time Debian user and developer, and have grown
used to 'apt-get install somepackage' *working*. That's one of the
reasons I purchased the n800; I naively expected that having adopted
the best packaging *tools*
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Hi!
First of all: Thanks for your review! You wouldn't believe how few
feedback you get these days: The mogg d/l counters show that quite some
people try it, but we get no feedback. So you're tempted to believe
everybody is happy. So thanks again!
John Rudd wrote:
Kahlil Johnson wrote:
Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.
Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care about OGG?
How weird. I have no AAC files but a big bunch of ogg files, why
On 10/18/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
debug1: confirm x11
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
Interesting, it works here with openssh, and DISPLAY is :0.0 during
that. My guess is dropbear does things differently.
Unsetting DISPLAY, I get this:
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BTW, if you feel like it, you could put your review into
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/playingoggfiles/
Regards,
Tilman
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ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Digression: why am I not using the Application Manager?
Well, besides the fact that apt-get is the One True Way, the AM is
*slow*. And unreliable (upgrades and updates often fail, but work with
apt-get). And there's no obvious way to upgrade
You don't need a dongle, no. Just a cable.
If you have a miniDVI port on a device, then you can have a simple cable
that is:
1) MiniDVI to HDMI (just the video signals)
2) MiniDVI to DVI
3) MiniDVI to VGA*
4) MiniDVI to Video*
(* only if the dvi hardware supports DVI-A (the analog pins))
Krischan Keitsch wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb John Rudd:
Kahlil Johnson wrote:
Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.
Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care about OGG?
Or is
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Rudd wrote:
Kahlil Johnson wrote:
Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.
Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care about OGG?
How weird. I have no AAC files but a big
Not sure where to go next on this. (beyond bug filing) Kagu is definitely
the
culprit. in that something about updating the screen causes BT sound to cut
out. If you shrink the screen and open for example the browser scrolling and
surfing has no affect on sound. But if you are doing
On 10/18/07, John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
John Rudd wrote:
Kahlil Johnson wrote:
Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.
Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care
does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some apps on the N810
...
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:11:32AM -0400, Jonathan Greene wrote:
does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some apps on the N810
Guess what? :) You can try FBReader... :)) We'll make it official
soonish, at the moment you can find a version in
deb http://only.mawhrin.net/~mss/fb
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get?
Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task
done, or do you have to wait longer until it has downloaded and
installed the packages?
Mostly it's the
Hi, maybe you could help me. I have been trying to find something in Google,
but without success. There is too much information that has nothing to do
with what I am looking for.
I would like to begin programming in C in my 770, and would like some link
to tutorial about that. I have found
does anyone have anything built to test? love to try some
apps on the N810 ...
And we'd love to see the output of dmesg right after boot.
I'd also be interested to see the contents of the initfs' kernel module
directory (pvr.ko are you there? :) ) and the contents of
/lib/dsp/modules/.
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
to a) Were are all the apps?
One thing that we are missing is a 'distribution' (the debian or ubuntu way)
with primary repositories and additional repos. etc.
Actually, I think we *have* that repo: repository.maemo.org. The problem
is that
According to Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 10/18/07, Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
debug1: confirm x11
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
Interesting, it works here with openssh, and DISPLAY is :0.0 during
that. My guess is dropbear does things
The oldest resource is the TLDP or The Linux Documentation Project:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/GCC-Frontend-HOWTO.html
On 10/18/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, maybe you could help me. I have been trying to find something in Google,
but without success. There is too much information
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get?
Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task
done, or do you have to wait longer until it has downloaded
According to John Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And, no, it's not about open and free. Since the developers in
question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the
N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's
about how much effort the developers need
Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic here.
My device is pre-release and has a slip case which I believe will be
included.
Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues...
Form factor is excellent as is the build and it will apparently get a bit
better over the course of
Dev program - http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1192708879.html
On 10/17/07, Sergey Udaltsov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will there be developer's device program, like for n800?
Cheers,
Sergey
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On 10/18/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues...
Care to expand on this point? Which licensing issues?
(from Xiph's FAQ for Vorbis -- http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#flic)
What licensing applies to the Ogg Vorbis format?
The Ogg Vorbis
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 08:16:51PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote:
I am happy that the AM seems to be good enough that some hackers
actually consider using it instead of apt-get
You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I
absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mostly it's the clicking/browsing issue.
Ok, understood. This seems to be the general I am much more
productive at the command line than with a WIMP interface situation.
I can very much
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +, Steve Greenland wrote:
According to Krischan Keitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
to a) Were are all the apps?
One thing that we are missing is a 'distribution' (the debian or ubuntu
way)
with primary repositories and additional repos. etc.
Actually,
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Marius Gedminas wrote:
I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the
battery wouldn't last till the end of the day.
Have you tried? My N800 is always connected and the battery lasts a couple
of days. Only when I start hitting the CPU it starts to
Why the heck would they remove the FM Radio?
And go down to 1 memory slot? I guess that one could be because of the
placement of the keyboard.
It sure would be nice if we could charge from the USB and host unpowered
on the USB. I assume that the hosting is a question of support and
battery life.
Jonathan, thanks for the updates!
Nick.
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On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:38 AM
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: N810 is here
Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic
The radio was cut as it did not fit ... Same on the memory slots and
the card type
On 10/18/07, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why the heck would they remove the FM Radio?
And go down to 1 memory slot? I guess that one could be because of the
placement of the keyboard.
It sure
And, no, it's not about open and free. Since the developers in
question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the
N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's
about how much effort the developers need to put into supporting
something vs. the
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:15:39PM +0200, Jac Kersing wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Marius Gedminas wrote:
I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the
battery wouldn't last till the end of the day.
Have you tried?
Yes.
My N800 is always connected and the battery
According to Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Onto the players.
Austin Che wrote and pointed out that I'd missed the MPD (music player
daemon) port. This intrigued, because I use and quite like MPD on my
home system. For those unfamiliar with it, it splits the player into
the server process
On 10/18/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
schedule). Also, I have this paranoid habit of looking for a charger as
soon as the battery meter drops from 4 bars to 3.
yep. the battery meter is not accurate/linear. it takes ages to drop
from 4 bars to 3. then it takes less and less
According to Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Vorbis support would be excellent (as would speex for voip and theora
for video) but I suspect for Nokia the majority of people that buy the
Tablets wouldn't know what any of them are let alone probably care.
Ultimately the continued development
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 08:39:10PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
So when it comes down to it most of the required/hard parts of vorbis
support (and probably speex to as it too has fixed point DSP
implementations) are already there. It just needs some smart
programmers to bolt the required bits
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Hi again!
Steve Greenland schrieb:
After the re-install, I've got /usr/share/mime/audio/x-vorbis.xml, which is:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mime-type xmlns=http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info;
type=audio/x-vorbis
Kemal On 10/11/07, Daniel M German [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
** Soft-power off mode. I have enabled it with a long press of the
on-button.
Unfortunately it does not disable the keys. It would be nice if it
did, except for a long-press of the on-botton again.
Kemal softpoweroff works
Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb Ralph Angenendt:
John Rudd wrote:
Kahlil Johnson wrote:
Wow, still no OGG when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.
Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care about OGG?
According to Austin Che [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Greenland):
...but MPD is not a good solution for an N800 standalone player *at this
time*. There are two big issues.
I just have to say I've been using mpd exclusively as my media
player for over a month and
According to James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
a. open AM
b. get asked if I want to update package lists.
c. click to browse installable packages.
d. wait for update packages (why it just did an update.)
Actually, the update here is updating the
On Thursday 18 October 2007 10:16:51 Marius Vollmer wrote:
ext Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
According to Marius Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can you give more information about how the AM is slower than apt-get?
Do you need to perform too many clicks in the UI to get your task
On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +, Steve Greenland wrote:
snip
My other pet peeve is that this encourages binary-only debs which you
can't then fix/port to a different SDK version.
I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects
On 10/18/07, Tilman Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
First of all: Thanks for your review! You wouldn't believe how few
feedback you get these days: The mogg d/l counters show that quite some
people try it, but we get no feedback. So you're tempted to believe
everybody is happy. So thanks
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