Re: [mailop] Issue with Mailop 'From' header

2019-08-14 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:09:10PM -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop wrote: > Something has changed in the past several weeks so that email from Mailop now > comes: > > From: > To: mailop@mailop.org > > Whereas before the change the email would come: > > From: Anne Mitchell >

[mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

2019-08-27 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, Are there any representatives of SpamCop here? Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as: abuse#example@devnull.spamcop.net with no explanatory text. In the past when I have seen this, I have assumed

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

2019-08-27 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:07:21AM -0700, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: > On 8/27/19 03:54, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > >Last week or so I noticed that I can no longer send SpamCop reports > >to a large hosting provider. The option now shows up as: >

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

2019-08-27 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Al, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 09:29:32AM -0500, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > You're new to a very old problem. Yes it seems I am, as I've had a misunderstanding about SpamCop for a really long time. > I could probably find blog posts I wrote in 2003 complaining about > how Spamcop chooses to

Re: [mailop] SpamCop and listwashing

2019-08-27 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Luis, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 04:54:20PM -0700, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: > I guess I'm trying to say is that getting abuse complaints to the right > hands, at scale, is way harder than it seems. "Streamlining" the process is > hard, No argument from me: no easy-seeming here! It's plain

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-07 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:12:36PM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 7.10.2019 o godz. 16:22:32 Andrew C Aitchison via mailop pisze: > > But the basic problem remains; an AI has decided it doesn't like you. […] > That's why there always should be a human who is able to

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Alexander, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:25:38PM +0200, Alexander Zeh via mailop wrote: > > It would also be great if SendGrid would include an abuse reporting > > URL in the headers of each message, specific to that message, i.e. > > that passes along all info that SendGrid would need to

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 06:00:44AM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > Any chance SendGrid might amend its ticket system so that there would > be autoreplies when tickets are created that showed issue numbers > connected with the original request It would also be great if SendGrid

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Atro, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 05:37:26PM +0300, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 02:15:07PM +0000, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > At present the process is to just forward the mail to > > abuse@sendgrid. It's great that they accept reports that

Re: [mailop] SendGrid Abuse unresponsive

2020-05-05 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 02:50:39PM -0700, Carl Byington via mailop wrote: > It is bad enough that our local spamassassin rules add 5 points if the > message is dkim signed by sendgrid.net. Same here and it's extra frustrating because there is so much ham in there as well. Just some

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] What's Microsoft's S3150 block list and where do I go to request removal?

2020-09-09 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 12:10:43AM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > What's the "this" you mention? My comment that I should fix up SPF? Response to Hotmail ticket: Not qualified for mitigation 85.119.80.238 Our investigation has determined that the above IP(s) d

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] What's Microsoft's S3150 block list and where do I go to request removal?

2020-09-08 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Michael, Given that the recipient can't be bothered to either fix the problem that's causing the alerts, nor hit the button that silences the alerts, I'm guessing they won't take any action on their side. I'm fine with them not receiving these emails in that case, but I don't want wider block

[mailop] What's Microsoft's S3150 block list and where do I go to request removal?

2020-09-08 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, We have a customer who's been receiving Icinga (basically Nagios) alerts every few hours for the last few days to their hotmail address. The customer could/should have either addressed the situation or halted the alerts, but they didn't and that's their choice. In the third day of this we've

[mailop] Just how does SendGrid fail this badly?

2020-08-18 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Received: from wrqvhkqq.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net ([149.72.1.68]) by chiark.greenend.org.uk (SAUCE v0.9.0) with esmtp id sauce-2544-1597663-1; 17 Aug 2020 11:32:54 + (GMT) Message-ID: <20200817203728.96117de88be30...@chilitato.com> From: "chiark.greenend.org.uk" Subject:

Re: [mailop] IP rental

2020-08-28 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 07:38:38AM -0400, micah anderson via mailop wrote: > This can't be anything other than a pipeline for spammers, and it must > work. I'm wondering if this can be shut down somehow, does it require > policy changes at RIRs? As an industry we haven't been massively

Re: [mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 07:53:43PM +0800, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > On 2020-08-19 18:24:30 (+0800), Andreas Schamanek via mailop wrote: > >BTW, Mailman mm_cfg.py option `SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET` apparently mitigates > >the DoS, too. > > We've also had some success in the past with

[mailop] Mailman confirmation email denial of service

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, Not sure if this is the best place to mention this, but… Since yesterday I've been seeing a large number of attempted subscriptions to all the public lists on one of my Mailman servers. There's so far been 160 attempted subscriptions for 69 unique email addresses. These addresses never

Re: [mailop] Week+ delays within btinternet,com / synchronoss.net

2020-10-22 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 10:09:14AM -0700, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop wrote: > On 20 Oct 2020, at 23:55, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > > Their mail server is at 85.119.83.252 (and 2001:ba8:1f1:f073::2, but > > none of the eventual deliveries happen over IPv6). > > Are t

[mailop] Week+ delays within btinternet,com / synchronoss.net

2020-10-21 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, I've got a customer running their own mail server who is experiencing huge delays on *receiving* emails from btinternet.com senders. This is ongoing, and appears to be affecting all email to them from all senders with a btinternet.com address. My customer is not noticing any attempts by BT

Re: [mailop] Automatic abuse reports from Simply.com

2021-01-16 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Tom, On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:48:56AM +0100, Tom Sommer via mailop wrote: > I don't disagree with the fact that the "Junk" button is made of evil, which > is also why we do not permanently ban or block anything based on it (like > some other e-mail providers do). Back in November 2020

Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 08:25:57AM +0100, Rob Kendrick via mailop wrote: > I gave up reporting abuse to Sendinblue 18 months ago. It was getting > too much. A rare thing happened: everything from Sendinblue is refused > for every customer. There have been no complaints. I've had to

Re: [mailop] gmail SPAM reporting works fine

2021-09-18 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 12:16:29AM -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: > It appears that Michael Butler via mailop said: > >It looks like google is no longer accepting spam reports; all my spamcop > >submissions now fail with something like this in the log .. > > I send lots of abuse

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01: 7e01)

2021-11-26 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Mary, On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 11:25:06AM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > Would it be possible for the two sides (blocklists and a > cloud/hosting providers) to come together and have some kind of > automated notification? As a tiny hosting provider we already receive notifications from

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Microsoft banned sender (Linode hosted IPs)

2022-03-04 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Michael, Yes, 139.162.167.107 is no longer banned. Thanks to you and whoever else had a hand in sorting that out! Cheers, Andy On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 05:08:41PM +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > Pretty sure that file is long gone. > And pretty sure that IP is now quite unblocked. > >

Re: [mailop] Microsoft banned sender (Linode hosted IPs)

2022-03-01 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 06:52:20PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > We are still having problems with some IP addresses (Linode) that remain > blocked by Microsoft and can't be unblocked by the > del...@messaging.microsoft.com or the https://sender.office.com/ form. > > These are:

Re: [mailop] Microsoft banned sender (Linode hosted IPs)

2022-03-03 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 08:12:13PM +, Andy Smith via mailop wrote: > Forwarding the mail to del...@messaging.microsoft.com so far hasn't > produced a response but it's only been a short while. Did eventually get an auto response from del...@messaging.microsoft.com with a do-not-reply a

Re: [mailop] Calling out Mailjet and diginico.com

2022-05-31 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 03:25:45PM -0600, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote: > does anyone here even accept email from [MailJet] any more? > Anybody see legitimate email coming through Mailjet It's been pretty bad so we're scoring anything from AS200069 and AS396479 +3.4 in SpamAssassin

[mailop] Come on Mailchimp, please

2022-11-11 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Why on Earth is Mailchimp allowing any client to send email with a header like this? (Rhetorical question) To: "Attached notify/ Hi Customer More 4759 USD on your Tron link TRX account /// You private key "5.)seven 6.)fiber 3.)atom 4.)trial 7.)echo 9.)lock 1.)arch 2.)crime" "10.)day

Re: [mailop] AOL/Yahoo requiring SOA record for MAIL FROM domain name?

2023-07-12 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 03:38:05PM -0700, Robert L Mathews via mailop wrote: > see https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes > > According to that page, > > "- These errors indicate that the domain used to the right of the @ in the > MAIL FROM does not appear to be a real domain. > - We

Re: [mailop] Guide for setting up a mail server ?

2023-07-11 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 11:26:25AM +0200, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 11.07.2023 o godz. 09:05:42 Laura Atkins via mailop pisze: > > B2B email requires a MX (like, if you don’t have an MX do you even email?) > > TECHNICALLY, […] > These are Google requirements, not SMTP

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-24 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 10:18:26AM +, Louis Laureys via mailop wrote: > I was with you until it was revealed you mention a blacklist in > your response. Sendgrid assumes that the words in the response > actually have something to do with the reason it's being > temporarily rejected

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-25 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Dmytro, On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 02:28:33PM +0100, Dmytro Homoniuk via mailop wrote: > 450 4.3.2 Local problem - couldn't query foobar blacklist > > I do think this very hypothetical example is a bit of an outlier. It's > providing non-actionable information to the sending system: it should

[mailop] DMARC and subdomains

2023-06-16 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, Let's say I have domain example.com with SPF, DKIM and DMARC records. I've put an A record in there to point foo.bar.example.com at someone else's IP address. Probably some cron job or other automated task on that host has sent an email from usern...@foo.bar.example.com that has ended up at

Re: [mailop] DMARC and subdomains

2023-06-16 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi Todd, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 09:31:58AM -0400, Todd Herr via mailop wrote: > Yes, the DMARC protocol does describe the search for the organizational > domain for the RFC5322.From domain in an email message. Yep, got itnow; I want the subdomain policy ("sp"). Not sure how I missed that, or

Re: [mailop] SendGrid is deleting your mail

2023-06-23 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:03:40PM +0200, Carsten Schiefner via mailop wrote: > how about elaborating a bit further on the whats and whys of your setup? Maybe some of us could learn something from that, or maybe SendGrid would consider that to be giving an advantage to competitors. Really

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 12:27:55PM +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > I am always wondering - as Gmail gives so many problems that have been > discussed multiple times - why anybody who has another mail account would > want to use Gmail, and moreover - have his mail forwarded to Gmail?

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

2024-02-09 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Fri, Feb 09, 2024 at 07:00:34AM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: > Am Thu, 8 Feb 2024 17:10:57 + > schrieb Andy Smith via mailop : > > > Last month there was a complaint on the NANOG (North American > > Network Operator's Group) that changing the sub

Re: [mailop] Is forwarding to Gmail basically dead?

2024-02-12 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 02:44:43PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > >> it basically makes it impossible to respond to the original email sender > > Nope, you just open the encapsulated email (open the .EML attachment), and > respond to that. Going back to my anecdote that last

Re: [mailop] DKIM / slippery slope gmx.de

2023-12-18 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 01:01:58PM +0200, Taavi Eomäe via mailop wrote: > > And it seems none of the extra requirements do anything against > spam, because the spammers can (and do, see above) easily implement > all of those. > > I get the impression you can't see the forest for the

Re: [mailop] Merry Christmas from Google?

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote: > Marco Moock via mailop skrev den 2023-12-17 09:00: > > If they use forwarders, SPF will fail in the case the envelope sender > > isn't rewritten. Check your logs for that. > > false, every forwarder changes

[mailop] Yahoo! error-codes page seems broken

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, While trying to debug: <[redacted]@yahoo.co.uk>: host mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net[188.125.72.74] said: 554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons. See https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes (in reply to end of DATA command) I and others note that

Re: [mailop] salesforce phishing emails

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > X-mail_abuse_inquiries: http://www.salesforce.com/company/abuse.jsp I reported a similar phishing spam to Salesforce a few days ago. I can't believe in this day and age that the above URL in its first paragraph on how to

Re: [mailop] Convincing clients of the importance of eMail recipient consent for mailing list subscriptions

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:29:30PM +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn via mailop wrote: > > > Most organisations will reconsider after beeing blocked a few times due to > > > non COI > > > But not the likes of SendGrid, Mailgun, Mailjet, ? which also makes > > making the argument much more

Re: [mailop] Convincing clients of the importance of eMail recipient consent for mailing list subscriptions

2023-11-28 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 03:53:10PM +0100, Raymond Dijkxhoorn via mailop wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > If sending lots of mail to weakly engaged corespondents is your core > > business, COI is not likely to be worthwhile in cold hard cash vs. what > > I call "good faith single opt-in" […] >

Re: [mailop] Spamcop from a forwarding standpoint

2024-01-25 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 09:58:17AM +0100, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote: > Unfortunately for us, Spamcop believe we are the one sending spam when they > trace back the Received headers, because we are the last hop before landing > to that user's inbox. > > Is there a way to tell in the

Re: [mailop] One click unsubscribe in mailing list messages

2024-02-23 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:39:46PM -0800, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: > My question to you all is, do you think that the List-Unsubscribe=One-Click > header is supported well enough these days such that I can replace the > one-click unsub link in the message bodies with a link that

Re: [mailop] PTR check mechanism / gmail

2024-03-03 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:23:22PM +, Gareth Evans via mailop wrote: > (Error NOERROR looking up 23.24.6.165 PTR,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking > up 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A looking up > 23-24-6-165-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. A,Error Error NXDOMAIN looking

Re: [mailop] Mailop "best practices" - clarifications please

2024-03-04 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 09:12:43AM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: > Am 04.03.2024 um 02:25:08 Uhr schrieb Gareth Evans via mailop: > > From > > > > https://www.mailop.org/best-practices > > > > "Having SPF for your own domains is usually considered a weak signal > > ..." > > > >

Re: [mailop] [spamhaus] de-listing requests successful, but only for a couple of days.

2024-03-15 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 12:48:25AM +, Alexander Huynh via mailop wrote: > Would you consider your own /64 or /48 from RIPE? The Local Internet Registry (sponsoring ISP) will charge you something (recurring) for managing the Provider Independent allocation. If the need is only for one

Re: [mailop] mailop and DKIM signatures

2024-03-16 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 04:56:29PM +0100, Marco Moock via mailop wrote: > Is there a reason for changing the content of the mail AND keeping the > original DKIM signature? > > Wouldn't it be better to remove that and add mailop's own DKIM > signature, that will pass? Not speaking for the

Re: [mailop] Filter out emoji from email adresses

2024-03-07 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 01:30:53PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > when the mail client tries to display the crap in the name field, > it causes it to crash. Guess it tries to render Emoji in a field > that is not designed to accept Emoji, thus it just silentcrash > into desktop.

Re: [mailop] Filter out emoji from email adresses

2024-03-07 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hi, On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 11:51:10PM +, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2024, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > Everywhere else people use ASCII mail addresses, even though they are > > often writing mail in non-ASCII character sets. > > I get plenty of non-ASCII