Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Trust me - it's a rubber hose. I am not a master tech but I do know the difference between steel and rubber. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:06:38 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Buy them from the dealer. You'll pay close to the same as aftermarket, and have no worries about where they came from. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What brand should I stay away from? It seems the pads

Re: [MBZ] Wretched SEL

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Reach out to this guy on BenzWorld: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2292073-mb-ignition-wire-sets-hand-made.html#post11457009 He's a former dealer tech and a good guy. Not sure if he'll sell parts, but he might. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:12 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Who is Andy? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's about the time Paul Ehrlich was telling us all that we were going to freeze and starve in the cold and dark due to global cooling and whatnot. --R On 6/10/15 10:44 PM, Scott

Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We should only invade countries the size of - or smaller than - Grenada. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

[MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What brand should I stay away from? It seems the pads last longer than my rotors... Andrew 1983 300TD squeals and leaks 1985 300TD garage queen ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] Daimler enters the home batteries market

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
AUTOS:Following Tesla, Daimler enters the at-home battery space Published: Thursday, June 11, 2015 Last summer, Tesla Motors Inc., in a move meant to stimulate improvements in electric vehicle technology and an expansion of the sector, made its patents free to outsiders. Since then, Toyota Motor

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yeah that reminds me, another of the scare tactics used by the left back in the 80's was the nuclear winter theory. Maybe we just need a good dust-up (so to speak) with Roosha or Cheena, with most of the dust'n on their side, and that will counteract the global warming. Yet another example of

Re: [MBZ] 1998 Mercedes ML320 $1000

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Worst case scenario - yard art! On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take a wad and go buy it --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1998 Mercedes ML320

[MBZ] Wretched SEL

2015-06-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Having finally had enough, I caved and took the car in for a professional diagnosis. The fuel system tested OK, and there _are_ vacuum leaks that will have to be dealt with. The most amusing result was that one of my _new_ Beru spark plug wires was open-circuit. (Though I believe it was a

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Call Jabba or just go to the FLAPS and get some. I think they are all chinee now anyway, but I do seem to recall that Jabba got me some for the SD he said were somehow better, they were in some branded box anyway. Who knows They aren't hard to change, be sure to get a tube of bearing grease

[MBZ] Bill Ricker 1958-2015

2015-06-11 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Complications of liver failure, quietly in his sleep. More details as I have them. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's about the time Paul Ehrlich was telling us all that we were going to freeze and starve in the cold and dark due to global cooling and whatnot. --R On 6/10/15 10:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: In 1969 and 1970 we had a bunch of crazy weather. Many pundits blamed it in the

Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You can find those shows on the PBS web site and if you have an AppleTV (and maybe other streaming devices) there is a PBS app that has them for viewing. You can pause and check them out. If you watch on your computer you can get a screen shot to save and study. Amazing writeup BTW. I

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Randy wrote: It brakes but not very hard and pumping the pedal does not all that much to make it better. It feels like when one presses on the pedal while another bleeds the brakes. It just slowly descends until close to the floor. If not, then I suspect the master cylinder is leaking

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Here you go, Randy. http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=b3tbpv45pvq2g4mclkt5ua2mmakeid=800016@Mercedesmodelid=1193666@300Dyear=1976cid=master cylinder@master cylindergid=1836@Brake Master Cylinder On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:12 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What is the collective view on rebuilt units? If I could get a kit, I would have no qualms about putting it in but those days seem to be behind us. I guess it is the result of labour costs in the shops. People are not willing to pay the cost of having kits installed - just faster and cheaper

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
will just tear up again if the bore is corroded. At least a reman has the bore bored out then these things used. --R On 6/11/15 6:11 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I got a reman for like $40 for the 123. Not hard to put in, at that price you can go through a bunch, though not sure why a reman would not work, I think they just machine the bore and put in a slightly larger plunger or o-rings, nothing too magic about that. The one I got had a lifetime

[MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to try it and see what happens. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
What is the collective view on rebuilt units? If I could get a kit, I would have no qualms about putting it in but those days seem to be behind us. I guess it is the result of labour costs in the shops. People are not willing to pay the cost of having kits installed - just faster and cheaper

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Not I BTDT and won't again. http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to try it and see what happens. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Your choice. The darn things are heavy and costly to ship. Last time I did this job, genuine MBZ disks were surprisingly inexpensive (like $50 each). I usually re-bolt the wheel to the hub (just 2-3 bolts) to hold the hub while I loosen and tighten the bolts that hold the disk to the hub (and

[MBZ] OT: Southeast asia

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Greetings from the Philippines! I'm here for the next 8 days teaching a class to new co-workers. Apparently it makes more sense to send me here than 8 of them to the states. After traveling for 26 hours (thats door to door) I can see why.The highlight of the trip was when I scored a bulkhead

Re: [MBZ] Check this out

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was thinking that the 787 I was on the other day took off kind of steeply, or steeper than the smaller regional jets (737 or A320) I usually fly on but nothing like that! -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Check this out

2015-06-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Zero passengers, zero cargo, Minimum fuel load, and a max preformance takeoff, in a new airplane with the companys blessing.. How could it be more fun!! . On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was thinking that the 787 I was on the other

Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We didn't have much luck there last time... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I feel like rebuilding a very old brake MC like yours is at best going to be hit or miss, theres no telling how much corrosion is in there. I bet theres no oversized cups or sleeves available so after you hone you might still need to buy a replacement anyway... For this I'd say buy a rebuilt,

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh and I forgot to mention since this is a car that sits a lot when was the last time you changed the brake fluid? -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
You can't beat the price. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 11, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to try it and see what happens.

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do -- it has been reported they do reasonable pricing for stealers. At least you would have a comparo to take to your local stealer. Don't

Re: [MBZ] Wretched SEL

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wow, nice find, Jaime! Their part are surprisingly inexpensive. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You can get the parts here: http://www.beruparts.com I mostly buy parts and make my own sets these days. It's easier to ensure

Re: [MBZ] Buymbparts.biz

2015-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Jabba got the domain back some time ago. The registration expired, it went up for auction and he bought it. http://www.buymbparts.biz was what Rusty picked up after Hursty sold Bimby's domain name, right? Then Rusty sold the .biz domain to Trent, so Trent let

Re: [MBZ] OT: Southeast asia

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I used to go to Manila once a year, fun place to visit, but… Watch the jeepneys closely - each one of them has a specific religious theme of some sort, at least most of the ones I saw did. Amazingly, they’re unregulated but the primary means of transportation for the masses. They each run a

[MBZ] Check this out

2015-06-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/06/11/wow-boeing-plane-moves-down-the-runway-then-takes-off-in-a-way-youve-likely-never-seen-before/ Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

[MBZ] List Disabled

2015-06-11 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Once again, I have been disabled. It is happening almost daily now. This is getting old. I didn't have a problem when I was being dropped monthly, but daily is a little too much to expect, me thinks... Can someone fix this? Thx LarryT ___

Re: [MBZ] List Disabled

2015-06-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You would probably want to either talk to Comcast or use a different email provider Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:42 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Once again, I have been disabled. It is happening almost daily now. This is getting old. I didn't

Re: [MBZ] Buymbparts.biz

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
FAIL x 2 Anybody checked out Rusty's old site lately? I went since I couldn't remember Hursty's buyeuroparts.com and found Under old management Gary Hurst PROPRIETOR WWW.BUYEUROPARTS.COM Interesting... -C ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The is a pretty-clear case of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. This piece may interest some: http://www.legion.org/magazine/226570/worlds-no-1-enemy -Original Message- From: Mann via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:14 PM If should'a and could'a were horses, all

[MBZ] Buymbparts.biz

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Anybody checked out Rusty's old site lately? I went since I couldn't remember Hursty's buyeuroparts.com and found Under old management Gary Hurst PROPRIETOR  WWW.BUYEUROPARTS.COM Interesting... -Curt   ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Pads are a wear item, rotors are too but you should IIRC get 1 set of rotors for each 2 sets of pads. Maybe more. I put PBR rotors on my '83 240D, I got them from Rusty and Gary while told me they were junk and would wear out tomorrow (this was after the Rusty/Gary split) they gave good service

[MBZ] window rubber wipers

2015-06-11 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
I also need the window brushes (L and R) that scrape dew/rain water off the windows. OEM costs $75 vs. $12 for a knockoff. Seems like quite a spread. Is itworth the difference? i would put a new cheap one on and see how long it lasts just try one and watch it i doubt if the oem lasts 6

Re: [MBZ] window rubber wipers

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I replaced those on my '83 240D with replacements sourced from Rusty. They lasted well but I only had the car for maybe 2 years. They're a fairly easy replacement so I wouldn't worry about it too bad. -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To:

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: I agree with you about nuclear power, which was touted as too cheap to meter back in the 60s. Those were the days... Too cheap to meter is not as good as free as in the days of Nikolai Tesla, in the 1920's. As to melting snow... Is there any solution that I can participate with?

Re: [MBZ] Buymbparts.biz

2015-06-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:05:22 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Jabba got the domain back some time ago. The registration expired, it went up for auction and he bought it. http://www.buymbparts.biz was what Rusty picked up after

Re: [MBZ] OT: Southeast asia

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually according to wiki they are in fact regulated. As near as I could tell you could pick out the route based on the design of the Jeepney. We drove through where they were parked and I picked out maybe a dozen different ones. All the ones we passed leaving the airport were mostly the same.

Re: [MBZ] Wretched SEL

2015-06-11 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
You can get the parts here: http://www.beruparts.com I mostly buy parts and make my own sets these days. It's easier to ensure quality. Jaime On Thursday, June 11, 2015, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Having finally had enough, I caved and took the car in for a

Re: [MBZ] Buymbparts.biz

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Jabba got the domain back some time ago. The registration expired, it went up for auction and he bought it. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anybody checked out Rusty's old site lately? I went since I couldn't remember Hursty's

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My local dealer will happily charge 4X what I would pay at Autohaus AZ, less a 10 percent MB Club discount. No thanks.. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call Jabba or just go to the FLAPS and get some. I think they are all chinee now

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do -- it has been reported they do reasonable pricing for stealers. At least you would have a comparo to take to your local stealer. --R On 6/11/15 11:25 AM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I agree with you about nuclear power, which was touted as too cheap to meter back in the 60s. Those were the days... On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah that reminds me, another of the scare tactics used by the left back in the 80's

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I called Northlake but got Wayne's voice mail. What number do you have, Rich? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do --

Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Yeah that reminds me, another of the scare tactics used by the left back in the 80's was the nuclear winter theory. Maybe we just need a good dust-up (so to speak) with Roosha or Cheena, with most of the dust'n on their side, and that will counteract the global warming. Yet another example of

Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The photo was up for only a second, but I clearly saw 2 helmets with white arcs in the center. You can find those shows on the PBS web site and if you have an AppleTV (and maybe other streaming devices) there is a PBS app that has them for viewing. You can pause and check them out. If you

Re: [MBZ] Wretched SEL

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Having finally had enough, I caved and took the car in for a professional diagnosis. The fuel system tested OK, and there _are_ vacuum leaks that will have to be dealt with. The most amusing result was that one of my _new_ Beru spark plug wires was open-circuit. (Though I believe it was a

Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq

2015-06-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If should'a and could'a were horses, all beggers would ride The last war this country entered and fought to win was WW2, and win we did, not only because of the men that went to battle, but because the people at home produced more equipment and material than the enemy to supply them. When they

Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Spend the extra money and replace it with a silicon hose of the right size. It will last as long as you own the car. Google will take you to suppliers that will sell you the size and length you need. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Kaleb and Dan write back and forth about alternator failure, warrenty replacement and such. Andrew wrote: I wonder if there will be a renaissance in steam powered cars. You wouldn't have these prtoblems with a steam powered car. I suspect that we would still have an alternator. Folks

Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. Craig wrote: That means it's not a rubber hose, but a steel pipe. Andrew wrote: Trust me - it's a rubber hose. I am not a master tech but I do know the difference between steel

Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Its NLA anyway. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:26 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. Craig wrote: That means it's not a rubber hose, but a steel pipe. Andrew

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The only way you can be sure to get good quality parts if you're worried about it is to get them from a dealer, period. The stuff you buy from AutohausAZ sits on the shelf with loads of URO brand parts. If they're willing to sell that garbage, they can't be motivated to sell you the highest

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
BTDT, Dan. Autohaus sells the OEM rear rotors for $51 but not the front. Local dealer has a discounted price of $63.30 each, with a valid MB Club card (mine has expired). I asked for a better deal but he won't budge. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you’re sure they’re OE and you can get them cheaper, do it! However, I’m a bit confused about your earlier statement about your dealer raping you or charging 4X list, as that’s not what you just described. If shipping is free with Autohauz and you’re willing to wait, it makes sense. You

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dan, your word is gold so I am going to move up to OEM rotors. Pelican Parts sells OEM front rotors for under $50 - including free shipping Autohaus doesn't carry them. Northlake Motors doesn't answer the phone and hasn't returned my voicemail message. I also need the window brushes (L and R)

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Window scrapers are actually material sold in bulk. Let’s give this some rational thought: Knockoff: $12.00 OEM: $75.00 That means the knockoff is more than SIX times cheaper than OEM. Assuming everyone is making a profit on what they sell, the cost relationship of the knockoff to the OEM

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Would you really want to buy OLD rubber? Even if OEM would it be better to buy cheepcheepchinee rubber that might be at least NEW cheepcheepchinee rubber? conundrums! --R On 6/11/15 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: On a related note, Randy pretty much deals in NOS stuff now, so if

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
For all I know, the $12 scraper has NEW rubber, albeit of lower quality than the OEM part. Hey Rich, the same size house you live in would cost you probably triple here in DC. Does this mean your home is made out of papier mache and Chinese drywall? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My house would cost 10X more even if it did have chinee drywall. That might even be a good selling feature, to celebrate diversity and all... But I think we are both arguing the same point, NOS is new OLD stock which has been sitting on some shelf for who knows how long, and rubber

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nothing can equal OEM German rubber grown under careful Tutonic supervision in the idyllic plantations of suburban Stuttgart.. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My house would cost 10X more even if it did have chinee drywall. That might

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: What brand should I stay away from? It seems the pads last longer than my rotors... Dan wrote: Buy them from the dealer. You'll pay close to the same as aftermarket, and have no worries about where they came from. *You* will pay close to the same. The rest of us?

[MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Winnipeg has rivers going north south - The Red and east west - The Assiniboine so I thought that sort of fit. My good old 76 115 300D had a hiccup this morning, which is totally unlike it. I was at a light when the car creeped ahead. I thought I had a senior moment and had failed to keep

Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
G wrote: Every war since [WWII] has been a police action with the goal of not defeating the enemy, but to contain them. So, I make the suggestions. If we fight, anywhere, let's fight to win. If a politician gets rich making war, let's treat them as the enemy. Yup. We should not commit

Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. Craig wrote: That means it's not a rubber hose, but a steel pipe. Andrew wrote: Trust me - it's a rubber hose. I am not a master tech but I do know the

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Randy, as you correctly surmised, these symptoms indicate a failed (interlally leaking) master cylinder. Fortunately, the part is not expensive and widely available, maybe even for a W115. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Winnipeg has

Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sorry for the confusion. NLA = no longer available. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:41 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. Craig wrote: That means it's

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Definitely master cylinder failure symptoms. Fluid is leaking past the cups on the piston. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Winnipeg has rivers going north south - The Red and east west - The Assiniboine so I thought that sort of

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger. Not a lot of slop in the hard lines to wiggle the fitting around. Then you have to

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, at 03:27 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger.  Not a lot of

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I recall a remanufactured MC I got for the 123 was only about $40 from the FLAPS and was an easy swap except getting those fittings attached to the hard lines lined up to catch the threads on it was a bugger. Not a lot of slop in the hard lines to wiggle the fitting around. Then you have to

Re: [MBZ] trouble right here in River City

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
DON'T use DOT3 BRAKE FLUID! Plan on buying a quart of DOT4 fluid and thoroughly flushing the lines and calipers. Traditionally, Castrol LMA/GT fluid was what to use, but it has become near unobtanium. You can consider switching to real DOT5 Silicone fluid, but it is scarce too. They

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Call them on it. Many will back down if you confront them. Otherwise, buy elsewhere. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My local dealer will happily charge 4X what I would pay at Autohaus AZ, less a 10 percent MB Club discount.