Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Pay neighborhood  kids to shovel?
On Aug 26, 2015 3:56 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, steerable one
 seem to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled to use the olde
 Ariens that I have had, lo these many years, I discovered that my old
 muscles ain't what they used to be.Recommendations?

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Hire someone.

Move south.

--R



On 8/26/15 3:56 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, steerable one seem 
to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled to use the olde Ariens that I 
have had, lo these many years, I discovered that my old muscles ain't what they 
used to be.Recommendations?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. 
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.To cover the fact that I don't know any thing about the need to notch 
the housing for a bulb (?) , I made a feeble joke.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:10:40 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
 How big of a notch?  What sort of tool required?  Degree of difficulty?
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Andrew.The lamps shown are both clear (yuk!) and orange, both by Uro, so
  filing a notch is probably their way of keeping score.YMMV
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
   Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:22:28 -0400
   To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
   From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
  
   Thanks, Fred.  It has to be ORANGE to match the RH side lens...  WHy are
   they tallking about filing a notch to accommodate the bulbs??
  
   On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88
21Right :-  was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them
  $19.51.
   
 
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Re: [MBZ] IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hard to tell whose answer is genuine.  They all seem equally improbable to
me.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 International Ponton Owners Group

 RB


 On 26/08/2015 11:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 IPOG???  International Poker Organization of Georgia?


 POG is Pineapple Orange Guava juice, popular in HI

 POGS are milk bottle cap centers that are collectibles (originally from
 POG, but later printed and sold just as paper discs)

 POGS is a game played in Hawaii with the Milk Bottle cap centers (POGS)

 I have some Hawaii Boy Scouts POGS that I could probably sell for pretty
 good money at National Jamboree or at NOAC.

 No idea what IPOG is...

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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 26/08/2015 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the
'85, for that matter.




They could just put your plate numbers  into the police database to say 
there were outstanding warrants.


RB

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[MBZ] Military POGS Was IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
This is interesting:  POGS have gone worldwide, especially where it 
is hot and sandy.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/06/mil-050606-afpn04.htm

Picture here

http://www.scoutingnews.org/pogs-for-presents/

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[MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, steerable one seem 
to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled to use the olde Ariens that I 
have had, lo these many years, I discovered that my old muscles ain't what they 
used to be.Recommendations?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its a lose for the customer if you needed the part fast...
-Curt

  From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN
   
I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.

It's a win / win / win all around because who ever has dead inventory
gets it sold, Autohauz gets a cut for marketing it, and we get factory
parts at cheap prices.

What do you think?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
 parts source I have come across.

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
  This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
  upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never
 ship
  the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
  believe things go UPS as well.
 
  I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
  something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   ‎Curly sez:
  
   You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
  
   The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts.
 Perhaps
  I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for
 stuff
  to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
  back on their performance.
  
   ‎
   Rick
   Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
  
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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My advise is to monkey with the vacuum pump system and than you would 
loose you're break petal write than and their


--R



On 8/26/15 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the
'85, for that matter.



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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How big of a notch?  What sort of tool required?  Degree of difficulty?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew.The lamps shown are both clear (yuk!) and orange, both by Uro, so
 filing a notch is probably their way of keeping score.YMMV

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:22:28 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
  Thanks, Fred.  It has to be ORANGE to match the RH side lens...  WHy are
  they tallking about filing a notch to accommodate the bulbs??
 
  On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88
   21Right :-  was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them
 $19.51.
  

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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
DIabolical!  Now if you could only harness that brilliance for GOOD rather
than EVIL.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 26/08/2015 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the
 '85, for that matter.



 They could just put your plate numbers  into the police database to say
 there were outstanding warrants.

 RB

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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.The lamps shown are both clear (yuk!) and orange, both by Uro, so filing 
a notch is probably their way of keeping score.YMMV

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:22:28 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
 Thanks, Fred.  It has to be ORANGE to match the RH side lens...  WHy are
 they tallking about filing a notch to accommodate the bulbs??
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88
  21Right :-  was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them $19.51.
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks, Fred.  It has to be ORANGE to match the RH side lens...  WHy are
they tallking about filing a notch to accommodate the bulbs??

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88
 21Right :-  was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them $19.51.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:07:06 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
  I tried to find a LH W123 turn signal lens but was baffled as to how to
  characterize it (electrical or body??) and a search on lens revealed
  nothing but lens repair kits.  Wtf.
 

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not much room for a markup if they work with a third party AND offer free
shipping.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 G Mann Sez:

  I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and
 drop
  ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
  from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.

  What do you think?

 If I run the tracking number, it tracks back to AZ.
 That's why it takes forever for me to get parts from them.

 I think they sell their own stuff.

 Rick

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Sterling Moss!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Not AFAIK.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:29 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Dr. Fatty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 HINT. NOT  a politician. Not Gottfried Daimler.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Who is the special guest? I have not received my plane ticket yet.
 
 Bernie?   Uncle Joe?
 
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
A car celeb?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Not AFAIK.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:29 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Dr. Fatty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 HINT. NOT  a politician. Not Gottfried Daimler.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Who is the special guest? I have not received my plane ticket yet.
 
 Bernie?   Uncle Joe?
 
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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the
'85, for that matter.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That's because the FBI and Harris requires that they sign a non-disclosure
 agreement.

 We had a big dust-up down here recently where the ACLU filed an FOIA
 request over one of these with the local prosecutor and Federal marshals
 showed up at the prosecutor's office and took the case over, effectively
 thwarting the FOIA.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they
 have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on
 details.
 
  --R
 
 
 
  On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
  You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our
 whereabouts?
 
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml
 
  Dan why am I not surprised Man
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for
 cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the
 other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into
 various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers,
 whatever.
 
  I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for
 nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the
 US.  I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look into
 it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone
 made clones and were probably selling time to make calls.  Found out a few
 others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was
 probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing
 phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers
 or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from
 China at that time).  Now the cops have these devices that can spoof
 phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them.
 I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too.
 
  --R
 
  On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
  It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like
 this
  off.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting
 some
  laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
G Mann Sez:

 I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
 ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
 from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.

 What do you think?

If I run the tracking number, it tracks back to AZ.
That's why it takes forever for me to get parts from them.

I think they sell their own stuff.

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
DG sez:

 ...hmmm...
 Maybe I'm not the only actual bottom-feeder reading okiebenz?
 SS and no other assets... Yes, tough but that is where I start...

SS? Good for you!

It's about time you actually took a benefit you have earned...

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] 123 LWB sighting

2015-08-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 26/08/2015 6:16 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

OK, so it's just a brief sighting in a youtube video of Dick Bear's McLaren M8F
replica, but
how often do you see a LWB on the street?

38 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F4sJU8eoDw

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Nice.
Also liked the McLaren kit car or whatever it was.
A local fellow has a Porsche that looks like the McLaren and he used to 
drive it on the street around here.
Unfortunately he had engine problems with it and has had it in his 
garage for a long while awaiting repair.

Crankshaft broke If I recall correctly.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I tried to find a LH W123 turn signal lens but was baffled as to how to
characterize it (electrical or body??) and a search on lens revealed
nothing but lens repair kits.  Wtf.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Oh Ok. I use them  for Saab parts for my wife's car. Didn't know  they had
 MB parts.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  ‎Scott asks:
 
  MBZ content:  Does anyone know if available 126 suspension rubber is
 any
  good?  Should I replace the 1982 stuff or keep it?
 
  I found a new (to me‎) parts house.
  East coast based for you Chowda Q folks.
  http://www.eeuroparts.com/?_action=UseFullSite
 
  Try them or try your local MB dealership parts counter.
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bah, the reboots exist because you can't replace bits that are currently in 
use...
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!
   
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 07:39:35 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Yay!  ?

  Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?

I presume you mean, Would installation of win 7 SP1 have reduced the
issues?

Probably, but I didn't have SP1 available.

Now Windows Update says my system is fully up-to-date, so I don't have to
do anything more.

Craig

The last times I installed 2000 and XP, the updates take a day and 
several manual shutdown/restarts.  I believe MS does this 
intentionally so that you get disgusted installing the old OS and 
go out and buy the new OS, which is still only 2000 with all the 
patches and a gussied up new interface.  (bloatware)

I did that experiment years ago when XP was new.

Clean installs of 2000 (near or at end of life) Wissta and XP
ran all the SPs and Updates until MS was happy.

Each HD had about the same amount of space used.  By now since 2000 
and XP are dead and MS does not admit wissta ever existed, that a 
fully patched Winder 10 will be bigger than fully patched XP, but I'd 
bet it is nearly the same as a fully patched winders 8.1.

Sounds like M$ is playing the frustrate you with winders 7 installs 
so you go out and buy 10 game.



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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Jaime

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are you talking to me?  In any case, why would I want a sedan if I have two
running wagons?

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 What did you think of that low mileage 300D?  I sent the link to you for
 it.   Let me know if you are not interested.

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
parts source I have come across.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
 This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
 upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never ship
 the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
 believe things go UPS as well.

 I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
 something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  ‎Curly sez:
 
  You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
 
  The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps
 I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff
 to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
 back on their performance.
 
  ‎
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 07:39:35 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Yay!  ?

 Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?


I presume you mean, Would installation of win 7 SP1 have reduced the
issues?

Probably, but I didn't have SP1 available.

Now Windows Update says my system is fully up-to-date, so I don't have to
do anything more.

Craig


The last times I installed 2000 and XP, the updates take a day and 
several manual shutdown/restarts.  I believe MS does this 
intentionally so that you get disgusted installing the old OS and 
go out and buy the new OS, which is still only 2000 with all the 
patches and a gussied up new interface.  (bloatware)


I did that experiment years ago when XP was new.

Clean installs of 2000 (near or at end of life) Wissta and XP
ran all the SPs and Updates until MS was happy.

Each HD had about the same amount of space used.  By now since 2000 
and XP are dead and MS does not admit wissta ever existed, that a 
fully patched Winder 10 will be bigger than fully patched XP, but I'd 
bet it is nearly the same as a fully patched winders 8.1.


Sounds like M$ is playing the frustrate you with winders 7 installs 
so you go out and buy 10 game.


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Re: [MBZ] IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

International Ponton Owners Group

RB

On 26/08/2015 11:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

IPOG???  International Poker Organization of Georgia?


POG is Pineapple Orange Guava juice, popular in HI

POGS are milk bottle cap centers that are collectibles (originally 
from POG, but later printed and sold just as paper discs)


POGS is a game played in Hawaii with the Milk Bottle cap centers (POGS)

I have some Hawaii Boy Scouts POGS that I could probably sell for 
pretty good money at National Jamboree or at NOAC.


No idea what IPOG is...

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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's because the FBI and Harris requires that they sign a non-disclosure 
agreement.

We had a big dust-up down here recently where the ACLU filed an FOIA request 
over one of these with the local prosecutor and Federal marshals showed up at 
the prosecutor's office and took the case over, effectively thwarting the FOIA.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they have 
 them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on details.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our 
 whereabouts?
 
 https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml
 
 Dan why am I not surprised Man
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for 
 cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the 
 other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into 
 various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, 
 whatever.
 
 I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for 
 nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. 
  I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look into it, 
 determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made 
 clones and were probably selling time to make calls.  Found out a few 
 others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was 
 probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing 
 phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers 
 or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from 
 China at that time).  Now the cops have these devices that can spoof 
 phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them.  
 I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too.
 
 --R
 
 On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
 It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
 off.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
 laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Bah, the reboots exist because you can't replace bits that are 
currently in use...

-Curt



they can make it reboot automatically.   Why the manual only, other 
than to annoy?


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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.

It's a win / win / win all around because who ever has dead inventory
gets it sold, Autohauz gets a cut for marketing it, and we get factory
parts at cheap prices.

What do you think?


Yup  I suspect that is how a lot of it moves.

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
IPOG???  International Poker Organization of Georgia?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 We'd  love to have you Jaime but I understand. We are a week later this
 year because the park is not available on our usual  second Saturday.
 Hopefully next year we can return to our regular day.
 On Aug 26, 2015 8:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I'd love to come, but that's the weekend of the IPOG meeting down in
  Philly, and the NJ sections of the MBCA also have a show/picnic.  I'm
 going
  to try to make both of them (in my 219 if it's road worthy by then), but
 a
  swing by RI is not going to happen :(
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Saturday September  19 @ Goddard  State Park, Warwick  RI. Homemade
   chowdah, Curt's grill specialties, steamed clams, door prizes,  hood
   raisings   special surprise guest. All interesting vehicles welcome.
   Contact  me  offline for details.
   Dwight
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88 21Right :-  
was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them $19.51.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:07:06 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com
 
 I tried to find a LH W123 turn signal lens but was baffled as to how to
 characterize it (electrical or body??) and a search on lens revealed
 nothing but lens repair kits.  Wtf.
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I just bought a Dell XP laptop for $40 to run my little laser burner 
machine.  I don't think I will be fooling with updates on it or 
whatever, though I did have to find a driver to try to get the wireless 
to talk to my router, which it now does but won't connect to wifi.  I 
think the new router language is beyond its kin.


--R



On 8/26/15 12:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 07:39:35 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Yay!  ?

 Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?


I presume you mean, Would installation of win 7 SP1 have reduced the
issues?

Probably, but I didn't have SP1 available.

Now Windows Update says my system is fully up-to-date, so I don't 
have to

do anything more.

Craig


The last times I installed 2000 and XP, the updates take a day and 
several manual shutdown/restarts.  I believe MS does this 
intentionally so that you get disgusted installing the old OS and go 
out and buy the new OS, which is still only 2000 with all the 
patches and a gussied up new interface.  (bloatware)


I did that experiment years ago when XP was new.

Clean installs of 2000 (near or at end of life) Wissta and XP
ran all the SPs and Updates until MS was happy.

Each HD had about the same amount of space used.  By now since 2000 
and XP are dead and MS does not admit wissta ever existed, that a 
fully patched Winder 10 will be bigger than fully patched XP, but I'd 
bet it is nearly the same as a fully patched winders 8.1.


Sounds like M$ is playing the frustrate you with winders 7 installs 
so you go out and buy 10 game.


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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've had bad luck with them having URO rubber parts instead of anything good. 
It takes an act of Congress to get them to check who actually made stuff.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN
   
Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
parts source I have come across.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
 This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
 upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never ship
 the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
 believe things go UPS as well.

 I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
 something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  ‎Curly sez:
 
  You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
 
  The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps
 I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff
 to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
 back on their performance.
 
  ‎
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.

It's a win / win / win all around because who ever has dead inventory
gets it sold, Autohauz gets a cut for marketing it, and we get factory
parts at cheap prices.

What do you think?

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
 parts source I have come across.

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
  This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
  upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never
 ship
  the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
  believe things go UPS as well.
 
  I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
  something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   ‎Curly sez:
  
   You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
  
   The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts.
 Perhaps
  I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for
 stuff
  to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
  back on their performance.
  
   ‎
   Rick
   Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
  
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I noticed the other place someone mentioned had a lot of URO stuff, too.

You just have to be an informed shopper when it comes to these guys. 
Fortunately, most of them identify the manufacturer. I always check the part 
when I get it, too, just to be sure.

Dan

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I've had bad luck with them having URO rubber parts instead of anything good. 
 It takes an act of Congress to get them to check who actually made stuff.
 -Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN
 
 Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
 parts source I have come across.
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
 This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
 upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never ship
 the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
 believe things go UPS as well.
 
 I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
 something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Curly sez:
 
 You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
 
 The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps
 I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff
 to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
 back on their performance.
 
 ‎
 Rick
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm sure that's the case.

That's what Worldpac does. A lot of the online parts retailers are using a 
customized front end that utilizes Worldpac's system. When you order it just 
goes to Worldpac and they drop ship from one of their warehouses with the 
seller's information on the pack slip and shipping label.

Dan

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
 ships some of what the list and sell, packed to appear it comes directly
 from them. That would easily explain the delays and shipping lag.
 
 It's a win / win / win all around because who ever has dead inventory
 gets it sold, Autohauz gets a cut for marketing it, and we get factory
 parts at cheap prices.
 
 What do you think?
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
 parts source I have come across.
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping.
 This is the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've
 upgraded to UPS and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never
 ship
 the same day I order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I
 believe things go UPS as well.
 
 I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order
 something I'm in a hurry for, if possible.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Curly sez:
 
 You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
 
 The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts.
 Perhaps
 I am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for
 stuff
 to show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report
 back on their performance.
 
 ‎
 Rick
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 07:39:35 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Yay!  ?
 
 Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?

I presume you mean, Would installation of win 7 SP1 have reduced the
issues?

Probably, but I didn't have SP1 available.

Now Windows Update says my system is fully up-to-date, so I don't have to
do anything more.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Another 108

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's a great drive train when paired with the air suspension, as in a
W109 300SE L 3.5 sedan...

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 3.5L is the M116 cousin of the more common M117 in America.  Very few
 were sold here, mostly prior to 1973 due to emissions problems.

 Basically a stroker version of the M117 (or the M117 is the long stroke
 low compression version of the M116).

 Same hp and torque with a liter less displacement, higher rev limit (6200
 rpm vs 5800).

 Peter


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[MBZ] IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

IPOG???  International Poker Organization of Georgia?


POG is Pineapple Orange Guava juice, popular in HI

POGS are milk bottle cap centers that are collectibles (originally 
from POG, but later printed and sold just as paper discs)


POGS is a game played in Hawaii with the Milk Bottle cap centers (POGS)

I have some Hawaii Boy Scouts POGS that I could probably sell for 
pretty good money at National Jamboree or at NOAC.


No idea what IPOG is...

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Notwithstanding the lag time in delivery, Autohausaz.com is the cheapest
parts source I have come across.



Makes no difference where i order from.  It takes a week to get 
anything unless i can buy from FLAPS.  once in a while it is less, 
but I figure that is a bonus.


If I try to anticipate everything i'll need, i end up with unused parts.
If I take things apart, then order, I have a vehicle down for a week 
(or 2 if the unforseen happens)

Sometimes I end up taking the car apart 2 or 3 times as parts trickle in.

Its a lot less frustrating to keep one old MB in ready reserve.  Then 
if you have one down waiting for parts, you can still carry on. 
Right now I have cars scattered over 1500 miles, and that is not good 
either...


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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe the turn signals on W123 chassis cars are only sold as an assembly, 
or is that what you meant?

Dan

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I tried to find a LH W123 turn signal lens but was baffled as to how to
 characterize it (electrical or body??) and a search on lens revealed
 nothing but lens repair kits.  Wtf.
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Oh Ok. I use them  for Saab parts for my wife's car. Didn't know  they had
 MB parts.
 On Aug 25, 2015 10:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 ‎Scott asks:
 
 MBZ content:  Does anyone know if available 126 suspension rubber is
 any
 good?  Should I replace the 1982 stuff or keep it?
 
 I found a new (to me‎) parts house.
 East coast based for you Chowda Q folks.
 http://www.eeuroparts.com/?_action=UseFullSite
 
 Try them or try your local MB dealership parts counter.
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A quick google search seems to indicate that a lot of the new ones have 
power steering.
Don't know that I would worry about getting one with tracks instead of 
tires.

Get chains and it should be fine.
The tires on the newer ones are generally larger than they were on the 
older ones that helps.


RB

On 26/08/2015 2:56 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, steerable one seem 
to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled to use the olde Ariens that I 
have had, lo these many years, I discovered that my old muscles ain't what they 
used to be.Recommendations?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. 




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Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, 
steerable one seem to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled 
to use the olde Ariens that I have had, lo these many years, I 
discovered that my old muscles ain't what they used to 
be.Recommendations?


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.			  


Fred,

Read this.  some insight, but no clear answer.

Hatz Diesel engine conversion idea is interesting for us Dieselfolk

I see airens makes some with tracks, but I didn't see anything about steering.

The big old whirlwind (36 to 42 single blade) and similar mowers 
from the 40s and 50s had the sulky seat you rode on, as in the one 
post.  I think it was hard work to steer them from the seat, but I 
never ran one.


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Re: [MBZ] E320 Wagon

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Hi - I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared. Perhaps I was 
bumped from membership again and I missed the email?   Anyway- 04, 
all options appears to be in good condition.  Are there any inherent 
problems to look for?


139K miles... asking $12k

thanks,
Larry
91 300D


Several of us answered the original post.  Unless you HAVE to change 
cars to keep SWMBO happy, your current 124 will run another 250k or 
more if you can keep the tinworm away.


E320 is ok, but more prastic than your 124.  Less soul, more like an asian car.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Hire someone.

Move south.

--R


I think this may be the better solution.  You can hire a lot of kids 
to shovel for the $2,000+ they want for a tracked snowblower.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers

2015-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Make sure its steerable. A friend has a Honda machine which will eat through 
any snow but is a bear to steer.
-Curt
  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 3:56 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Snow blowers
   
Alles.I'm in the market for a new snowblower and a tracked, steerable one seem 
to be what I need.Last winter whilst I struggled to use the olde Ariens that I 
have had, lo these many years, I discovered that my old muscles ain't what they 
used to be.Recommendations?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.                         
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[MBZ] E320 Wagon

2015-08-26 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
Hi - I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared. Perhaps I was bumped 
from membership again and I missed the email?   Anyway- 04, all options 
appears to be in good condition.  Are there any inherent problems to 
look for?


139K miles... asking $12k

thanks,
Larry
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
A feeble joke + clueless mind = chaos.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew.To cover the fact that I don't know any thing about the need to
 notch the housing for a bulb (?) , I made a feeble joke.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:10:40 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
  How big of a notch?  What sort of tool required?  Degree of difficulty?
 
  On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   Andrew.The lamps shown are both clear (yuk!) and orange, both by Uro,
 so
   filing a notch is probably their way of keeping score.YMMV
  
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:22:28 -0400
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
   
Thanks, Fred.  It has to be ORANGE to match the RH side lens...  WHy
 are
they tallking about filing a notch to accommodate the bulbs??
   
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
   
 Andrew.Search by number?Left :-was 000 820 07 21 now 000 820 88
 21Right :-  was 000 820 08 21 now 000 820 89 21Autohausaz has them
   $19.51.

  
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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

At 2:28 PM -0500 8/22/15, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

1982 Mercedes 300CD
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5152330737.html


So, did you ever have a looksee at this?  Inquiring minds want to know.

-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs.  
People can and will be cruel.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
 the interconnected software could be implemented by the
manufacturers.



 I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of
scale,
 but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(

It could be used by Mafia hit men ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yay!  ?

Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Clarification: OEM part.

I will give Autohaus credit for sourcing lots of little bits that are stupid 
expensive at the dealer, even with a discount. A good example of this is the O 
rings for the oiler tubes on the M119 engine. From MB they're like $2/each. 
Something like $0.35/each from Autohaus, and they often come in the original 
Carl Reinz bag, too.

I needed a thermostat for the new S420, as it takes forever to get to working 
temperature (I'm assuming it's got the original thermostat in it.) From the 
dealer it's like $45 my cost, the same OEM thermostat from Autohaus is under 
$30 shipped.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 5:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have ordered from Autohaus on occasion when I’m not in a hurry and I need 
 an OE part that’s far cheaper in the aftermarket, like a thermostat.  The 
 thing I find amusing is that they state quite clearly that they ship the 
 “same day - or the next” and nothing I have ordered has ever shipped the same 
 day I ordered it, even when I ordered on a weekend and they had plenty of 
 advance time to fill the order.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Curly sez:
 
 You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder
 
 The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps I 
 am spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff to 
 show up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report back on 
 their performance.  
 
 ‎
 Rick 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
off.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
 laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
  the interconnected software could be implemented by the
 manufacturers.
 
 
 
  I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of
 scale,
  but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(
 
 It could be used by Mafia hit men ...
 
 
 Craig
 
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http://www.jaimekop.com/
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I guess they did not plan the date very well did they? 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I'd love to come, but that's the weekend of the IPOG meeting down in
 Philly, and the NJ sections of the MBCA also have a show/picnic.  I'm going
 to try to make both of them (in my 219 if it's road worthy by then), but a
 swing by RI is not going to happen :(
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Saturday September  19 @ Goddard  State Park, Warwick  RI. Homemade
 chowdah, Curt's grill specialties, steamed clams, door prizes,  hood
 raisings   special surprise guest. All interesting vehicles welcome.
 Contact  me  offline for details.
 Dwight
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Autohaus uses the stupid UPS/USPS arrangement for their cheap shipping. This is 
the equivalent of a slow boat to China. On a few occasions I've upgraded to UPS 
and things get to me promptly, albeit they still never ship the same day I 
order them.  If you hit the threshold for free shipping I believe things go UPS 
as well.

I just try to plan accordingly when I order from them and not order something 
I'm in a hurry for, if possible.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Curly sez:
 
 You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder 
 
 The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps I am 
 spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff to show 
 up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report back on their 
 performance.  
 
 ‎
 Rick 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 26, 2015 at 7:39 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Yay!  ?
 
 Would installation of win 7 SP1 reduced the issues?

I just back up the windows activation, format and install windows from a
slipstreamed
Win 7 CD, restore the activation, and selectively update with windows update,
downloading
most of the security patches and not much else. Then I have to install all my
drivers and
software.

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Re: [MBZ] Finished with updating Win7 laptop!

2015-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 26, 2015 at 8:07 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 format and install windows from a slipstreamed
 Win 7 CD,


I meant to say a Win7 CD with SP1 slipsteamed onto it. 

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Re: [MBZ] A manny cd at 1/3 Jaime price

2015-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Working and still moving have had no time. If you call they guy first and found 
out if it's even worth looking at I will fit it in.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:37 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 At 2:28 PM -0500 8/22/15, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 1982 Mercedes 300CD
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/5152330737.html
 
 So, did you ever have a looksee at this?  Inquiring minds want to know.
 
 -MMM-

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[MBZ] Secret message to Jaime

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
What did you think of that low mileage 300D?  I sent the link to you 
for it.   Let me know if you are not interested.


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[MBZ] 123 LWB sighting

2015-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
OK, so it's just a brief sighting in a youtube video of Dick Bear's McLaren M8F
replica, but
how often do you see a LWB on the street?

38 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F4sJU8eoDw

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'd love to come, but that's the weekend of the IPOG meeting down in
Philly, and the NJ sections of the MBCA also have a show/picnic.  I'm going
to try to make both of them (in my 219 if it's road worthy by then), but a
swing by RI is not going to happen :(

Jaime


On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Saturday September  19 @ Goddard  State Park, Warwick  RI. Homemade
 chowdah, Curt's grill specialties, steamed clams, door prizes,  hood
 raisings   special surprise guest. All interesting vehicles welcome.
 Contact  me  offline for details.
 Dwight
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
We'd  love to have you Jaime but I understand. We are a week later this
year because the park is not available on our usual  second Saturday.
Hopefully next year we can return to our regular day.
On Aug 26, 2015 8:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I'd love to come, but that's the weekend of the IPOG meeting down in
 Philly, and the NJ sections of the MBCA also have a show/picnic.  I'm going
 to try to make both of them (in my 219 if it's road worthy by then), but a
 swing by RI is not going to happen :(

 Jaime


 On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Saturday September  19 @ Goddard  State Park, Warwick  RI. Homemade
  chowdah, Curt's grill specialties, steamed clams, door prizes,  hood
  raisings   special surprise guest. All interesting vehicles welcome.
  Contact  me  offline for details.
  Dwight
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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have ordered from Autohaus on occasion when I’m not in a hurry and I need an 
OE part that’s far cheaper in the aftermarket, like a thermostat.  The thing I 
find amusing is that they state quite clearly that they ship the “same day - or 
the next” and nothing I have ordered has ever shipped the same day I ordered 
it, even when I ordered on a weekend and they had plenty of advance time to 
fill the order.

Dan


 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Curly sez:
 
 You can always ask autohausAZ if they can get lemforder 
 
 The thing I dislike about AhAZ is it takes forever to get parts. Perhaps I am 
 spoiled by Amazon Prime, but I don't like waiting 7-10 days for stuff to show 
 up. I'm going to give eeuroparts.com a try soon. I will report back on their 
 performance.  
 
 ‎
 Rick 
 Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for 
cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the 
other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get 
into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door 
openers, whatever.


I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for 
nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the 
US.  I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look 
into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and 
someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls.  Found 
out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out 
someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, 
sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging 
the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though 
probably not from China at that time).  Now the cops have these devices 
that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of 
stuff from them.  I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too.


--R

On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
off.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:


And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
the interconnected software could be implemented by the

manufacturers.




I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of

scale,

but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(

It could be used by Mafia hit men ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml

Dan why am I not surprised Man

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, 
 then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the other cracks, 
 hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems 
 -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever.
 
 I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly 
 $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US.  I call 
 the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look into it, determine 
 my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and 
 were probably selling time to make calls.  Found out a few others at the 
 company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a 
 traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in 
 the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was 
 fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time).  Now 
 the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, 
 and collect all kinds of stuff from them.  I guess if you have a coupla $k 
 you could buy one too.
 
 --R
 
 On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
 It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
 off.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
 laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
 And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
 the interconnected software could be implemented by the
 manufacturers.
 
 
 
 I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of
 scale,
 but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(
 It could be used by Mafia hit men ...
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Somewhere today, there is a career car thief exploiting this principle to
gain instant entry to a new car worth thousands of dollars.

If you doubt it, look for the statistics on number of cars stolen and
dismantled each year. It is a huge industry.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
 laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
  the interconnected software could be implemented by the
 manufacturers.
 
 
 
  I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of
 scale,
  but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(
 
 It could be used by Mafia hit men ...
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Jabba

--R

On 8/25/15 10:21 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Is it Andrew?

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Ok dude, if you have a special guest it's best to let everyone know in order to 
draw more crowds. That's Q 101

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

It's  a  secret. No plane tickets. Only special parking spot of honor.
On Aug 25, 2015 9:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Who is the special guest? I have not received my plane ticket yet.





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Re: [MBZ] A buy for clay

2015-08-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
Nice idea.  Far too expensive, as all the work has been done and there is not 
enough parts to pull and sell to off set purchase price

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 LeMons car all ready to go.
 
 Or Maybe Andrew should race LeMons.
 
 http://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/5162053934.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Well,

I don’t care who the special guest is.  It’ll be fun anyway, and I will be 
bringing Klaus (’68 250S) from Maine along with another batch of the Rhode 
Island Clam Chowder. 

The next weekend is the MCBA FarberRally and International Car Fest at the Owls 
Head Transportation Museum in Rockland, ME.  Mercedes is the Marque this year 
so it’s free to all Benz owners.  Dimitri and I will be there as well.  Dwight 
too, I think.

Jon

PS:  We will miss you Jaime….


 On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Hard to tell whose answer is genuine.  They all seem equally improbable to
 me.
 
 Well, mine are all true.
 
 Here is the ultimate authority
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogs
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pog_(drink)
 
 https://web.archive.org/web/20120722070450/http://www.alohamilkcaps.com/new_site/phenomenon.asp
 
 And yes, I have original pages of Aloha Council, BSA POGS, still in the 
 sheet. (die cut, but not punched out yet)  The kids have pogtainers full of 
 pogs.
 
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[MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If he’s around - a really nice coupe:

http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html 
http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A close friend of mine is an Army brat, and her dad was a spook that was 
attached to the embassy in Tehran before things went south.  She attended 
elementary school there.  Said it was a really wonderful place under the Shah.

Dan


 On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Grant wrote:
 During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
 to know the country pretty well.
 
 That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
 My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
 the most beautiful in the world...
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Purty!  I never drive white cars, tho; they're impossible to keep clean.
:D

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 If he’s around - a really nice coupe:

 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html 
 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html

 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote:
 SS? Good for you!

 It's about time you actually took a benefit you have earned...

It makes me a bottom feeder slaker slob fill-in-the-blank welfare
queen.  I don't like it, but it is there.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 126 Rubber WUZ: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote:
 I suspect Autohauz works out of inventories owned by other folks and drop
 ships some of what the list and sell...

An UBER of used MB parts - nice.
UBER is even used for quick massage needs - legitimate physical massage.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Ok got it. I don't  pay a lot of attention  to them.
On Aug 26, 2015 9:05 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
  What's an MSM preacher?

 Main Stream Media = MSM
 preacher is one who speaks but does not listen
 Friends hear / listen and learn to each other.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
True!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:44:25 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: astrasfo...@gmail.com; fredh.s...@hotmail.com
 
 A feeble joke + clueless mind = chaos.
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Andrew.To cover the fact that I don't know any thing about the need to
  notch the housing for a bulb (?) , I made a feeble joke.
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dwight wrote:
 I respectfully  decline your challenge...
...
 Do you still have your 240D?

Yes, I still drive my 240D 3-pedal '84 and our 240D slushbox '83.
I hope we will hear poltics that you might agree here.  I posit that
it is among friends that we learn stuff.  MSM preachers are mere head
bangers and hard to hear, like most preachers.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Bzzt wrong, they are the easiest to keep clean. Black cars are impossible to 
keep clean

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Purty!  I never drive white cars, tho; they're impossible to keep clean.
 :D
 
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 If he’s around - a really nice coupe:
 
 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html 
 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes I  miss both my 240D's- the 79 slushbox that went over 300k miles  my
78 stick  that is better known on this list as, the hot head mystery.
What's an MSM preacher?
On Aug 26, 2015 8:37 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dwight wrote:
  I respectfully  decline your challenge...
 ...
  Do you still have your 240D?

 Yes, I still drive my 240D 3-pedal '84 and our 240D slushbox '83.
 I hope we will hear poltics that you might agree here.  I posit that
 it is among friends that we learn stuff.  MSM preachers are mere head
 bangers and hard to hear, like most preachers.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] CHANGE YOUR FUSES!

2015-08-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
I had it cleared twice and the thing still is retarded

clay

On Aug 22, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 You probably just need the fault cleared.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:15 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I hate the crap electric in the W220
 
 Ever since I got the thing the driver side marker has been blinking as 
 normal.  The dash says that the marker is non op.  I figure it may be the 
 original bulb is bad, so I change it.  New bulb is very nice and orange, 
 bright, and blinks like the old one.  Normal.  Dash still says it is non-op
 
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Re: [MBZ] IPOG was:ChowdahQ 8 coming soon

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes I will be there hopefully with the 82 CD.
On Aug 26, 2015 7:45 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Well,

 I don’t care who the special guest is.  It’ll be fun anyway, and I will be
 bringing Klaus (’68 250S) from Maine along with another batch of the Rhode
 Island Clam Chowder.

 The next weekend is the MCBA FarberRally and International Car Fest at the
 Owls Head Transportation Museum in Rockland, ME.  Mercedes is the Marque
 this year so it’s free to all Benz owners.  Dimitri and I will be there as
 well.  Dwight too, I think.

 Jon

 PS:  We will miss you Jaime….


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  Hard to tell whose answer is genuine.  They all seem equally improbable
 to
  me.
 
  Well, mine are all true.
 
  Here is the ultimate authority
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogs
 
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pog_(drink)
 
 
 https://web.archive.org/web/20120722070450/http://www.alohamilkcaps.com/new_site/phenomenon.asp
 
  And yes, I have original pages of Aloha Council, BSA POGS, still in the
 sheet. (die cut, but not punched out yet)  The kids have pogtainers full of
 pogs.
 
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Grant wrote:
 During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
 to know the country pretty well.

That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
the most beautiful in the world...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dwight wrote:
 What's an MSM preacher?

Main Stream Media = MSM
preacher is one who speaks but does not listen
Friends hear / listen and learn to each other.
mao

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[MBZ] 123 turn signal lens Was: 126 rubber bits was Re: ADMIN

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

andrew,

check ebay for used ones.

I bought a pair there to avoid the cheep chinee off color ones.  I 
got a pair of (used) GenUwine Bosch for a 240D.  Can't remember the 
price I paid.  around $30 I think.


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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'm sure it was nice as long as you weren't a brutally represses 
political dissident.


It is good to know this hominy cat is so benevolent and there are no 
brutally repressed political dissidents there now.


Along with no queers, no dogs, no hogs, no Jews, no Christians.

(please ignore that fact that this utopian wonderland was created by 
killing all the above.)


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Re: [MBZ] car hacking

2015-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they 
have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests 
on details.


--R



On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts?

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml

Dan why am I not surprised Man

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, 
then it becomes another running battle.  Just like all the other cracks, hacks, 
cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the 
electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever.

I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly 
$2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US.  I call 
the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF.  They look into it, determine 
my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were 
probably selling time to make calls.  Found out a few others at the company had 
the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light 
not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making 
calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then 
(though probably not from China at that time).  Now the cops have these devices 
that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff 
from them.  I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too.

--R


On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this
off.

Jaime


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some
laughs.  People can and will be cruel.
--
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:


And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly
the interconnected software could be implemented by the

manufacturers.




I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of

scale,

but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :(

It could be used by Mafia hit men ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What he said. I've had both, and black cars look dirty far faster than white 
cars.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Bzzt wrong, they are the easiest to keep clean. Black cars are impossible to 
 keep clean
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Purty!  I never drive white cars, tho; they're impossible to keep clean.
 :D
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 If he’s around - a really nice coupe:
 
 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html 
 http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Spook is accurate given the nature of the work.
On Aug 26, 2015 10:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Ah.. spook is such an ugly term...

 I much prefer Cultural Attache or Minister of Information.



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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  A close friend of mine is an Army brat, and her dad was a spook that was
  attached to the embassy in Tehran before things went south.  She attended
  elementary school there.  Said it was a really wonderful place under the
  Shah.
 
  Dan
 
 
   On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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   Grant wrote:
   During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I
  got
   to know the country pretty well.
  
   That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
   My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
   the most beautiful in the world...
   mao
  
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Re: [MBZ] Old news...

2015-08-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
Goodness! we can't speak of long ago politics?  That sort of screws the whole 
topic of history, since Wilton was bombing Viet Cong, which may trouble some,  
or those who are not partial to LBJ or JFK.  No ability to talk of anything of 
historical value, since politics would be involved some how.  Some of us think 
Nixon was a great guy.  

I say we keep off the current crate of imbeciles looking for office, and the 
prior goof ball in the white house.  That opens up history prior to the 
millennium.  

So, no talk of Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Barak Osama, W, or Abortion.



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On Aug 25, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

 I agree, and I don't know how many times we have to say this on this
 list... please keep your politics to yourself.  I'm sure there are many
 other places on the internet who would love to hear it.
 
 This is really sad and disgusting.
 
 Jaime
 
 
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 Mr Moderator,
 I want to ask you  other listers if this type of mean, hateful comment  is
 now OK on the list? And for the record my question has nothing to do with
 politics- just respect.
 Thanks,
 Dwight
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 Jimmay Cahtah has brain cancer.
 
 Most of us knew that 40 years ago.
 
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Re: [MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
What he said. I've had both, and black cars look dirty far faster 
than white cars.


Dan


DB140  Is great!  I first thought it was plain as sin, but it grew on 
me.  plain, but looks good when dirty, and looks great when clean. 
Actually, the ubiquitous silber is not bad.  Not quite as good as 
DB140, but  it hides dirt fairly well.


DB040 (Black) is a horrible color.  As Dan says, before you get done 
washing or waxing or wiping it down, where you just cleaned is now 
dirty.


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Re: [MBZ] 300CD for sale in... New Jersey

2015-08-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
DG writes:

 Rick wrote:
  SS? Good for you!
 
  It's about time you actually took a benefit you have earned...
 
 It makes me a bottom feeder slaker slob fill-in-the-blank welfare
 queen.  I don't like it, but it is there.

Not really. You should've gotten considerably more of what 
you worked for, and was paid for by you, in lieu of wages.

Too late now I 'spose.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Some progress with Windows Update (but only a little ...)

2015-08-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
What flavor iMac?

I would maybe be wanting to find a new home for one.  Mom has a 2007 mini, but 
she needs a bit more ooomph to keep up with her heavy interweb usage

clay

On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes wrote:

 Changing out some machines at the office, might have a few iMacs looking for 
 new homes soonish--will throw in some bean for sure ;)
 
 Darren
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Darren wrote:
 Craig, let me know if you want to buy an iMac...
 
 $$ and iMac - I might like that...
 Tell us more?
 I go visit BowTruss and come home with fresh roasted coffee and old iMac.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
No Such Agency kept a very quiet presence in the good old days of HUMIT,
when feet on the ground truly was feet on ground ... and silent but
deadly meant more than the passing of intestinal gas in an elevator.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Spook is accurate given the nature of the work.
 On Aug 26, 2015 10:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Ah.. spook is such an ugly term...
 
  I much prefer Cultural Attache or Minister of Information.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
   A close friend of mine is an Army brat, and her dad was a spook that
 was
   attached to the embassy in Tehran before things went south.  She
 attended
   elementary school there.  Said it was a really wonderful place under
 the
   Shah.
  
   Dan
  
  
On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
   
Grant wrote:
During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so
 I
   got
to know the country pretty well.
   
That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
the most beautiful in the world...
mao
   
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Re: [MBZ] Old news...

2015-08-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Just for the record, my feelings can not be hurt by any comments you may
make about any public official or personage.
Any convictions I may hold can not be swayed by terms of personal
derogation or lack of respect. I curse fluently in 5 languages, so I likely
have heard any insult that may be thrown... Let the games begin..
hahahaha..

I side with Mao on this.. we are adults, we have opinions, and we have
decades of knowledge, much of beyond just Mercedes.. Keep it friendly and
informative.. perhaps even spirited.. I'm good with that..

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:28 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Goodness! we can't speak of long ago politics?  That sort of screws the
 whole topic of history, since Wilton was bombing Viet Cong, which may
 trouble some,  or those who are not partial to LBJ or JFK.  No ability to
 talk of anything of historical value, since politics would be involved some
 how.  Some of us think Nixon was a great guy.

 I say we keep off the current crate of imbeciles looking for office, and
 the prior goof ball in the white house.  That opens up history prior to the
 millennium.

 So, no talk of Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Barak Osama, W, or Abortion.



 clay

 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately  well tailored chap
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
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 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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  I agree, and I don't know how many times we have to say this on this
  list... please keep your politics to yourself.  I'm sure there are many
  other places on the internet who would love to hear it.
 
  This is really sad and disgusting.
 
  Jaime
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Mr Moderator,
  I want to ask you  other listers if this type of mean, hateful
 comment  is
  now OK on the list? And for the record my question has nothing to do
 with
  politics- just respect.
  Thanks,
  Dwight
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  Jimmay Cahtah has brain cancer.
 
  Most of us knew that 40 years ago.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Ah.. spook is such an ugly term...

I much prefer Cultural Attache or Minister of Information.



On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 A close friend of mine is an Army brat, and her dad was a spook that was
 attached to the embassy in Tehran before things went south.  She attended
 elementary school there.  Said it was a really wonderful place under the
 Shah.

 Dan


  On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Grant wrote:
  During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I
 got
  to know the country pretty well.
 
  That forms a wealth of experience from which to speak - thanks.
  My impression has been that, as you say, The Persian women are among
  the most beautiful in the world...
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Re: [MBZ] One for MMM

2015-08-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Which is why I prefer gray or silver cars...

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What he said. I've had both, and black cars look dirty far faster than
 white cars.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Bzzt wrong, they are the easiest to keep clean. Black cars are
 impossible to keep clean
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Purty!  I never drive white cars, tho; they're impossible to keep clean.
  :D
 
  On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  If he’s around - a really nice coupe:
 
  http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html 
  http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/5183078145.html
 
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] was ADMIN, old history

2015-08-26 Thread clay via Mercedes
Those of us who lived in the Canal Zone will not be happy, even when Mr. Jimmi 
is six feet under.  He is about as beloved as Adolph is in the Czech Republic, 
or the ghettos of Poland.  Carter is the ISIL to our Palmyra

clay



On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 I'll refine my inner Trump and try not to bend any ones feelings.
 In case I do, I have plenty of internet butt hurt forms so don't worry.
 
 I'm kidding of course. And Mao.. Carter was President when the current
 muslim republic of Iran was formed by the then exiled ayatollah Khomeini,
 by driving the Shah out of power, who was a friend of America and we did a
 lot of trade with Iran, under his rule.
 During his rule, I spent 2 yrs in Iran on a government contract, so I got
 to know the country pretty well. It was known then as a center of high
 fashion and culture. The Persian women are among the most beautiful in the
 world, [something I remember, being a young man at that time], who dressed
 in stunning ways in the latest European fashion.. not in hijab and burka
 like now.
 
 The Ayatollah and his muslim minions took over the country, seized the
 United States Embassy and held all the occupants hostage for a very long
 time. Mr Carter was not effective in recovering them, or setting the
 hostage takers straight. An Embassy is Sovereign Soil, so seizing it is an
 act of war, by all known rules.. yet nothing was done that made any
 difference and America was made to appear a weak country, which set the
 stage for the current circumstances. The steps going forward would make a
 history thesis so I will hold back on those, they are easily found as a
 matter of record. Terrorist demands were made and not dealt with by the
 office of President in a way that marked Mr. Carter forever as weak as a
 leader.
 
 Mr. Regan  was elected to replace him and announced his plan to recover the
 hostages who had grown nearly gray while waiting to be rescued, and they
 were released within only a few days of him taking office...which further
 empathized how non preforming Mr. Carter had been.
 
 In the interest of list purity I submit this only to give closure to my
 earlier comment.. so everyone stand at ease.. nothing further on the
 subject.
 
 I understand Mr. Carter is given very little chance of survival at this
 point. We have a remarkable number of former presidents still living. More
 than ever in history.
 
 On the Mercedes side, I just located TWO complete sets of 15 slot 15 inch
 rims, while looking for a set for my new CD which is coming into
 restoration. So I now have 10 each 15 slot, 15 inch rims.. and a bunch of
 Bundts [so many I've lost count]...17 I think Wheels anyone?
 
 Grant...
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dan wrote:
 Who woke up Mao? Things getting boring over on the Ritter list?
 
 No.
 I am pushing the edge there too.
 Not really.
 And not really pushing the edge here either.
 I just want us to take note of what we have before some members leave
 and blow this thing up.  Politics does not need to divide.  See the
 gov from OH - he seems to be reasonable and popular.  And Bernie - he
 could be sensible.  I don't like the season.  MSM is tweaking the
 masses.
 mao
 
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dwight wrote:
 That is what I wanted to check- not politics but respect  list tone.
 
 Okay.
 Are you up for a slight challenge?
 Give us your view on something other than brain cancer - I'm
 interested to hear you speak a bit about Mr. Carter.  I really did not
 pay attention to his time in DC, but it seems there are things to like
 about his ways these days.
 I would also like to hear more about what Grant and Curly meant about
 Mr. Carter's time in DC and the ruination from that time until today.
 My opinion is that it is partly politics but mostly our fat-*** ways
 of doing things - yeah, we don't.  We think DC will do it.  We want
 more for us.  We want entertainment.  I like the guys that took that
 AK47 guy down in France - that was doing something.  We need more of
 that.  And DIY W123 repair is also doing something.  That is why I
 like to hear this stuff from Dwight AND Grant.  And Wilton.  You guys
 have more basis for politics than my fat-*** life.
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Old news...

2015-08-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Has Jimmy died yet?
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On August 26, 2015 10:28:51 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
Goodness! we can't speak of long ago politics?  That sort of screws the
whole topic of history, since Wilton was bombing Viet Cong, which may
trouble some,  or those who are not partial to LBJ or JFK.  No ability
to talk of anything of historical value, since politics would be
involved some how.  Some of us think Nixon was a great guy.  

I say we keep off the current crate of imbeciles looking for office,
and the prior goof ball in the white house.  That opens up history
prior to the millennium.  

So, no talk of Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Barak Osama, W, or Abortion.



clay 

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On Aug 25, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

 I agree, and I don't know how many times we have to say this on this
 list... please keep your politics to yourself.  I'm sure there are
many
 other places on the internet who would love to hear it.
 
 This is really sad and disgusting.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Mr Moderator,
 I want to ask you  other listers if this type of mean, hateful
comment  is
 now OK on the list? And for the record my question has nothing to do
with
 politics- just respect.
 Thanks,
 Dwight
 On Aug 25, 2015 2:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Jimmay Cahtah has brain cancer.
 
 Most of us knew that 40 years ago.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Iran

2015-08-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm sure it was nice as long as you weren't a brutally represses political 
dissident.

So the Iranians run out the shah and the US decides that's a bad deal so we set 
him back up, he then basically goes on a killing spree and we wonder why they 
don't like us...

The best thing we could do to the middle east is leave the whole dang place 
alone. They don't like us and EVERYTHING we do there turns to crap, but 
no,we've got this hero complex, we're going to fix it all you just wait...

Curt

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