Every 123 and 124 wagon was available with a 3rd seat. It was an option
- NOT standard (although MOST later US delivered wagons came with them).
Marshall
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Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
OK Dan I am on your side,well we do not need sides, I just agree with you.
On 7/25/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I'm talking about the same thing. It's not nice to call people names
just because they have a different point of view. And I got called lots of
interesting
Stu Ritter (former Mercedes shop owner and technical editor of The Star
magazine) says that to properly afford to maintain a 6.3 or 6.9 you need
the inome from a religion or at least a small country!
Marshall
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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto
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Cool snag. FWIW, my brother's 78 300D had similar issues. Replacing one
injector and driving the hell out of it for about
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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76
Marshall Booth wrote:
Stu Ritter (former Mercedes shop owner and technical editor of The Star
magazine) says that to properly afford to maintain a 6.3 or 6.9 you need
the inome from a religion or at least a small country!
I thought that was for the 600.
The 280SEL 6.3 or 450SEL 6.9 should
OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out.
Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds
like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just
a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the offending injector
line is
If it is a rod knocking it'll still be moving whether the cylinder is
firing or not; hence the noise stays the same.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:25:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out.
Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds
like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just
a loud
So what kind of religion would it tae? Maybe he could start one.
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co.
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From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] need info
Stu Ritter
thats what I thought, just wanted to verify.
Jeff Zedic wrote:
If it is a rod knocking it'll still be moving whether the cylinder is
firing or not; hence the noise stays the same.
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D
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wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan?
Kevin wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:25:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out.
Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds
like it
So is it a turbo or not? Looks like a good acquisition
Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co.
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To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan?
I don't see why not, provided you have small enough fingers and enough
clearance.
It can be done on a straight six jeep, if you don't mind dropping the front
axle.
K
I think on these will probably have to unbolt the engine mounts to raise
it up enough to get the pan out.
Kevin wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 07:45:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
wonder if the bearings can be done just by dropping the pan?
I don't see why not, provided you have
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OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out.
Ever since has a loud knock. Anyways, messing with it today, sounds
like it might be coming from #2. If it was a rod knocking and not just
a loud diesel knock, would it still knock when the
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought that was for the 600.
The 280SEL 6.3 or 450SEL 6.9 should only cost 1/3 the revenue stream of the
cult of scientology.
Both are likely to involve audits. LoL.
Mac
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Oh, aren't we getting bold in our old age?
You need to sell me either this one or that knocking wagon. Really.
Mac
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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Rod knocking will get louder as the engine heats up. Cold oil is usually
thick enough to cushion the pounding a bit. On as diesel it may be loud all
the time due to the higher cylinder pressures.
The saying I heard once was ;
To have a 6.3 you need to own a bank.
To have a 600 you need to own a country.
Should work too seeing as there's so many devoted disciples ~)
Andrew, JGiels, here's the story you're dying to hear:
The other day on the way to work my 300TD's alternator, parking brake
and brake wear lights came on. The slight thump in the engine
compartment told me the belt broke, I got it to the side of the road
before it heated up. ( I live in rural
Yes, I have a stethescope. From what I understand, it damaged the oil
pump and they replaced that etc. Runs great, just has the knock.
Steve MacSween wrote:
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OK, on my latest 83 wagon, the story is kid kit a curb, dumped oil out.
Ever since has a loud knock.
In a message dated 7/25/2005 10:47:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, folks! I need some Viton fuel lines (return
lines, I think, the ones that come up from the little
nozzles which come up out of the injectors, I think is
what they are) and bad! (My '82
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:20:52 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
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the car says 300 Diesel, which I was told is a 4 cylinder. I
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is?
200d, no?
Mac
It's a 62-65 190d or 66-67 200D finny, W110.
On 7/25/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did they make a 300D in 1968? Any idea what it really is?
200d, no?
Mac
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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC
Chris N John,
I would like to reach out and soundly smack all the people on this list
who have told you that you need to own a country to have a 6.9...
Yes, it can be an expensive car, but for all those guys know, you
already own a country or an oil company.
I'm VERY, VERY surprised and
On 7/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a 62-65 190d or 66-67 200D finny, W110.
Can I get a 250 .. 250 .. 250 do I hear 300? 300D? Can I get a 400?
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Damn, that is a find!
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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D, 83
AND THE WINNER IS:
Mac (Take a bow)
It is typ 110110 10 A 200D. Possibly imported from outside the US, not
through MB dealership. Clear turnsignals were not used on US models after
1962. All cars first registered in the US in 1968 had to have side marker
lights. This car does not.
No, it's a 220D. This is a 115 car right?
A 200D is a 110 fin car, although there may have been a euro 200D in ' 68
that was a 115 sedan.
Chuck, Chuck, such hostility... you could hurt yourself
I've worked on both cars and yes they're as fixable as any other. I have a
6.3 for sale here right now that I did a lot of work on and I've done
several others. I've only worked on one 6.9 but I didn't find it as hard to
Well, perhaps you'd like to come clean the gallon plus
of B50 off the floor of my carport. All I know is
that after only 33K miles this happened to our TDI
about 6 weeks or so ago and at that time we were
advised to replace the hoses, the failed and not
failed, w/ Viton or silicone-based. We let
I didn't look at the picture, sorry. Someone must have changed it to say
300D on the back? Not unheard of.
Actually the plan is to cut the vent tube in the trunk. I bought a section of
fuel line to put over the cut once I get the vent figured out. I'd thought
about blowing back into the tank but don't really want whatever the obstruction
is floating around in there.
-Curt
'83 240D Hammie 242kmi
no, its not a 115 its a 110.
BenzBarn wrote:
No, it's a 220D. This is a 115 car right?
A 200D is a 110 fin car, although there may have been a euro 200D in ' 68
that was a 115 sedan.
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On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side
carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what
Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there? Whats the deal? Are
they not foam and just need something stuck up in them from below to
clear
Oil pressure is spot on, have not pulled the valve cover yet. Car has a
little over 200K on it. Dont know about oil usage.
Kevin wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 08:44:09PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes, I have a stethescope. From what I understand, it damaged the oil
pump and they
More likely a bad glow plug or leaking valve stem seals.
Regards,
Trampas Stern
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hammie's alternator and glowplug relay
Dieselvolk,
Well, this past weekend I towed my sailboat back and forth from storage to boat
shop to house to boat ramp, and found the experience most unpleasant. Lots of
bouncing, tongue of trailer yanking on the hitch like a wild animal trying to
escape, having to drive real slow on the
Meade,
Wild guess, hard to tell w/o actually comparing the ride to mine (c: .
But I bet you have a combination of valve rebuild (leaks down, not at
right height w/trailer attached) and sphere (bounce).
I dont see how the valve could affect only one side, but since the
spheres are individual to
you still haven't sold that 6.3
At 12:59 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote:
Chuck, Chuck, such hostility... you could hurt yourself
I've worked on both cars and yes they're as fixable as any other. I have a
6.3 for sale here right now that I did a lot of work on and I've done
even striplin has a 6.9!
i think the dogs live in it
At 12:45 AM 7/26/2005, you wrote:
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I'm VERY, VERY surprised and chagrined at the responses from Marshall,
et al., and suggest they offer some assistance in identifying problems,
then suggestions and
Actual Newspaper Headlines (we can only assume!)
1. Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says
2. Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers
3. Safety Experts Say School Bus Passengers Should Be Belted
4. Farmer Bill Dies in House
5. Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus?
6. British Left
It's a Euro model!! Turbo or not, Kaleb?
On 7/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn, that is a find!
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No, that one sold last year. It went to NY and then it went back to Germany.
This is a better one.
Dan
Hey Kaleb,
Sounds like the drain hole is blocked.
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On my 85, drivers side carpets are wet from AC draining. I had the side
carpet panel back the other day but didnt see the foam drains like what
Im used to on 126's. Are they not located there?
85 what? your outdated list shows both a 126 and a 123. Who knows what
else is in the vast, and highly classified, Okie Acres compound? Could be
a secret Mog for all we know.
Go under the car with an air hose and look for the drains. Blow air up
each drain.
At 08:29 AM 7/26/2005, you
Hi all,
I'm getting ready to replace a cam follower that the adjuster won't stay in
place.
I'll be using a short flat prybar to lower the valve and remove the rocker arm.
I don't have the MB tool for that. Or should I go to Autozone and borrow a
spring compressor?
As for the follower (ball
Richard said...
FWIW, a friend locally tried panty hose for the same trick and failed
miserably. Said he spent more time picking nylon out of the pulley
system than he did putting on a new belt (c:
Did he take 'em off first GRIN
Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K
its a euro so it would be non turbo
andrew strasfogel wrote:
It's a Euro model!! Turbo or not, Kaleb?
On 7/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn, that is a find!
On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 05:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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it would be a 123
Loren Faeth wrote:
85 what? your outdated list shows both a 126 and a 123. Who knows what
else is in the vast, and highly classified, Okie Acres compound? Could be
a secret Mog for all we know.
Go under the car with an air hose and look for the drains. Blow air up
Listers,
Been trying to avoid working on my rear suspension, but a chunk of rubber
broke loose or something yesterday, which makes
the car VERY hard to drive in a straight line. I already have all the
parts for a rear end rebuild (trailing arm
bushings, driveshaft everything, subframe
Richard,
Thanks for the info. So, your car was also bouncy when the spheres needed to
be replaced? I thought that the failure mode for those was a hard ride, not
bouncy. Is there some valving that goes on inside those? I think that their
function in the system is basically the same as
Forgot to mention the car... '79 300SD, W116 chassis.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, John Robbins wrote:
Listers,
Been trying to avoid working on my rear suspension, but a chunk of rubber
broke loose or something yesterday, which makes
the car VERY hard to drive in a straight line. I already have all
I use a big screw driver and it will pop right off. You can remove the ball
stud and try another one to see if it won't turn down on you. It should only
turn with a fair amount of force.
I'd know the difference, believe me. I didn't look at the picture.
Having never done this before, where do you apply the big screw driver to pop
it off?
Thanks benzbarn
George
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I use a big screw driver and it will pop right off. You can remove the ball
stud and try another one to see if it won't turn down on
--- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't comment on your VW, other than to wonder
where
you get your B50, and if it might be B40/M10 from
not
removing the methanol.
I get 1/2 a tank of B100 (99 lately, actually) from a
CFN cardlock station in Oly and then fill 'er up with
petrol
I've had to use the pantyhose on occasion also but only after my wife
found them in the glove compartment.
On 7/26/05, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard said...
FWIW, a friend locally tried panty hose for the same trick and failed
miserably. Said he spent more time picking
Were they your wife's?
Of course when I replace belts I keep the old set in truck on top of spare
tire. Then I always have replacements in a pinch. Of course since I replace
belts as maintenance I have never had to use spares.
Regards,
Trampas
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I will be swapping out the A/C condenser in my '95 E300D soon. The process
looks pretty straight forward, but I was currious if the radiator has to be
completely removed (per the manual) or if it could be unclipped and tipped
enough to allow the condenser to slip out. If I have to drain and
I bet. What class is the boat?
My ride would have been considered 'hard bouncy'. Hard to describe
unless you were in the car. If I hit any bump with any load in the
rear, the bounce came from the springs after the SLS spheres 'bottomed
out'. That is how I imagined what was going on based on
I kind of stick it under the rocker and pry up and sideways all at the same
time. The cam lobe needs to be pointing up so it's not under any load.
Oh, I could have done that, I guess. When I had the engine out for
rebuild a couple of falls ago, you would think I would put new belts on
it as I put it back together. I knew the thing had seen *zero*
preventative maintenance before I got it. I knew the belts had at
least 100K on them. But I
I used a 5mm allen wrench in order to took off the cam followers on my M130
engine.
Just insert the short end od the 5 mm allen wrench in the hole of the cam
follower that is over the adjuster, prying up using the long part as a support,
when you lift the arm of the follower enough , pull it
makes sense. cool. I'll give that a try
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I kind of stick it under the rocker and pry up and sideways all at the same
time. The cam lobe needs to be pointing up so it's not under any load.---BeginMessage---
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Cool.
I'll look into that as well.
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I used a 5mm allen wrench in order to took off the cam followers on my M130
engine.
Just insert the short end od the 5 mm allen wrench in the hole of the cam
follower that is over the adjuster, prying up using
I have been having trouble with the shifter lately. It is real loose and
sometimes doesn't lock the tranny in park. Only starts in neutral alot of the
time. I have read some about bushings or such there. I looked and there are
three different ones. I know that they don't cost much and think I
Thanks Thomas for your fast response but I am not sure if I made my self
clear, the brake falire appear about ten minutes after I reached the base of
the hill, during hevy traffic
Roberto
No. I replaced just some plastic bushings in the end of the shift lever and in
the end of the lever on the transmission--if I remember correctly. It has been
several years since I did it.
Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
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Ok thanks will look into bushings..
douglas..
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From: Potter, Tom E
To: Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
No. I replaced just some plastic bushings in the end of the shift lever and
in the end of
JB the older I get the more I realize that time can actually be spent by
moving stuff completely out of the way... I watch good mechanics do this
all the time and think to myself, why bother? I can wiggle in there...
and then I realize that I've taken much longer to do the job and drop
stuff down
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