Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
The oil issue was related to overheating if I recall correctly. The engine was unique. It was an aluminum block with no sleeves. The aluminum was high in silicates (and this may be an incorrect description )The aluminum was etched back to leave only the silicates as the wear surface. It worked fairly well as long as the engine was not overheated. The heat caused problems that resulted in either bad oil consumption or outright seizure. Operating it here in Canada where the temperatures are not as hot for as long probably was better than trying to do so in the southern USA. The other problem was that there was really no way to resurface the block in the field. Got to give GM credit for going with an advanced design even if it ultimately bit them. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:19 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing R A Bennell wrote: I had a 74 Vega brand new. The sheetmetal was recycled and rusted and it was noisy but it was a cheap fuel efficient car and served me well for the roughly 3 years that I drove it. I'm in Canada so the prices may be out of whack for you but I paid $2850 for it brand new and got $1450 on a trade for a 77 Mercury 3 years later. Depreciation of less than $500 per year on a new car is not bad. They had a *terrible* reputation in the U.S, and not just for rusting. They supposedly used so much oil that GM did a recall to link the ignition to the oil pressure sender, so the engine would shut off if you ran the car out of oil. My dad bought one new and had a really hard time getting rid of it -- car lots would only deal with him if he promised to drive the Vega back off the lot instead of trading it in. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] GM/What?
GM did ? That needs to be re-thought. Lets see who killed the diesel market as far as cars go. (Diesel pickups are OK, actually becoming a fad)) Brainwashing the public that diesel is nasty and smells bad (gasoline is perfume) is a direct consequence of not having laws on the books that control Joe Public's diesel motors without stepping on Long Haul Frank's foot. There are no laws that prohibit anyone to import, domestically manufacture or sell diesels. There are incentives offered not to do that (licensing, taxing, permitting, looking the other way, etc.) . VW is the only company left that chooses to ignored that offer (mandate ?). My humble opinion is that it is not GM, but how about the Federalis ? Texas: $ 12 for a annual inspection of a diesel car; $40 for a gasser. Diesel car = they check the brakes and the lights. Gasser = they plug it in the OBD. Just my worthless $ 0.02 -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 11/29/05, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also watched GM ruin the diesel market in N America.
[MBZ] OT - duct tape
In Dec '72, another B-52 in my formation was hit by SAM (missile) shrapnel over Hanoi. 'Made emer landing at American Marine base in N. Thailand. 'Crew flew it couple days later to our home base in S. Thailand with little squares of duct tape covering many small holes in its skin - another good use for duct tape. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] MB in Movie Preview
Cadillac, MB, they all look the same anymore. David Brodbeck wrote: Nick Gough wrote: MIB II had a new black E500 to replace the old Ford sedan. Did they? Somehow in my memory it became a Cadillac CTS or something. You're probably right, though. I used to have a Crown Victoria very much like the one in the original movie, but without the special equipment, of course. Seeing that headlight pattern in the rear view mirror still triggers police car alarms in my brain, even though no self-respecting precinct would still be driving one that old now. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Methinks valve stem seals, a headgasket and turbo seals are in order...or, I have a bent rod, or the head is toasty, or all of the above. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
speaking of GM products from the 80's thru early 90's, especially the front wheel drive cars, there is this dude I know locally that has a MANY FWD GM cars, buick etc. He takes the time to swap trannies on them, replace cracked heads, whatever. I was telling him just today that he is the only guy I know that would bother, anybody else would call the pick a part man to come get them. David Brodbeck wrote: Donald Snook wrote: It has become fashionable to bash GM lately. I recognize that there are a lot of problems at GM right now and certainly GM made some really lousy cars in the 70's and 80's. GM ain't what they used to be, and that's a GOOD thing. I drove my roommate's '99 Chevy Malibu recently and was surprised at how nicely it drove and how well put together it felt. It felt more like a Honda than a GM. It has the usual GM blandness, with styling that just screams rent me, but other than that it's a perfectly decent car. It's light years ahead of the '87 Buick Somerset he used to have. (Although, to be fair, the Somerset managed to wheeze and backfire its way to over 150,000 miles before someone rear-ended it on I-5 and put it out of its misery.) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] OT Duct Tape and hello Chuck test
Chuck I replied twice to you for providing the link to Gorilla tape and neither reply ever showed up on the list. I also replied to David's comments and it showed up right away. What's up? Looking to see if this one gets through. I really hate to fail another test. Thanks for the tape link if you get this, if you don't get it, just disregard. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: speaking of GM products from the 80's thru early 90's, especially the front wheel drive cars, there is this dude I know locally that has a MANY FWD GM cars, buick etc. He takes the time to swap trannies on them, replace cracked heads, whatever. I was telling him just today that he is the only guy I know that would bother, anybody else would call the pick a part man to come get them. He wasn't the only one who saw opportunity, though. For a long time those were the most stolen cars in the country. The reason? They were all basically the same car, and most of the parts interchanged, so there was a huge used parts market available to anyone who ran a chop shop. With all those cars on the road, who was going to suspect the origins of a cheap, used fender for an '86 Buick? Also, at the time, GM was making ignition switch and steering column assemblies that were easy to pop.
[MBZ] Warm ups?
Here's my $.02 if you want it. Let your car warm up for 5 minutes or so in the warm weather and 10 minutes in the really cold stuff. Just because the oil pressure guage shows pressure it doesn't always mean EVERYTHING in the engine is oiled yet. My best friends father used to do a demonstration with an old Chevy 250 inline 6. He would remove te rocker cover and tell someone to start the car and watch the manual oil pressure gauge he had under the hood. The gauge would go up after only a few seconds signifying oil pressure.BUTThe rockers were still not getting oil.Took some of them a good minute and a half to pump up the lifters and get the whole engine oiling properly. This anecdotal scenario is precisely why Mobil 1 0W40 exists, according to Exxon-Mobil, Porsche and Mercedes. Lubrication right now down in the deep dark corners of the engine during a cold start. BTW, that old Chebbie engine most likely had Havoline 30W or something similar in it. And another BTW. Before someone with a 240D claims that 0W40 is too watery for his hi-po engine, I shall point out that The Porsche Carrera GT's V-10 engine's factory oil fill is, what else, but Mobil 1 0W40. RLE/Seattle
[MBZ] oil test interval?
I did two oil-sample tests on my 240D and two oil-sample tests on my 190DT, and decided to extend the oil-change interval to 7,500 miles. (I'm sure I could have gone to 10K miles, but I chickened out.) Now, I've gone through 2 oil changes on my 190DT and I'll have to do the 2nd oil change on my 240D in a couple weeks. Question: is there a reasonable length of time, or number of miles, or number of oil changes, that I can confidently go before I do more oil sample tests? (The tests are a little pricey.) What do you think? Thanks, Ron Dwelle
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
Zeitgeist wrote: My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Methinks valve stem seals, a headgasket and turbo seals are in order...or, I have a bent rod, or the head is toasty, or all of the above. I'd check the compression of #1 to see if the seal between the the cylinder and the oil passage has failed. Valve stem/seal problems producing the symptoms you describe are VERY rare in OM60x engines even after 300-400kmi of service. Turbo seal failures are also rather rare. 603.96 engines almost NEVER have shown up with bent rods (I've heard of one or two). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are approved or not. The gun is then tranferred to you. If you buy from an individual, most of the time its just a cash deal and thats it. Its possible the seller will want to go to a gun dealer and have the paperwork filled out to transfer the gun to you. Gary Hurst wrote: well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the standard procedure is. it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble shooting someone with it. it has no magazine either. granted, all of that could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid would kill someone with it. more likely, i'd think, it was sold to criminals on the cheap if it was taken. these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia. anyone can go to any gun show and buy one. I bought mine in a parking lot of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with a van full of assault rifles. this transaction took place in plain site of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47 is no big deal here. as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my possession, no one can be killed by it. and if it is out of my possession, searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime. I cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the past failure of losing my weapon. As I have never been in this position before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be. my trunk was locked. i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession that is not locked. it is simply gone and i don't yet know how. right now i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing. i'm not sure my attitude is all that oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by this. It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious breach of a shooter's unwritten code. losing your firearm is terrible thing the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me. I don't believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical can do anything but further erode the situation. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Ford wheel problems
Guess it pays to periodically check the torque on the wheel nuts, especially with alloy wheels. Don't bother. It's obvious that the last knucklehead to install that wheel left the nuts finger tight. Alloy wheel bolts or nuts don't loosen as long as they are torqued properly to begin with. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
I think they alway made good trucks. The cars were a different story. R A Bennell wrote: On the other hand, GM made some darned good vehicles in the mid to late 60's. I still have a 68 Chevy pickup and it rides as good as any truck I have ever driven. Everytime I drive it I am amazed by how good it is given how old it is and how little it has had by way of upkeep in the past 20 years. It is a 292 and a powerglide too so not exactly the cream of the crop in GM parts. It would likely be even better with a small block V8 and a turbohydro 350. I had a 74 Vega brand new. The sheetmetal was recycled and rusted and it was noisy but it was a cheap fuel efficient car and served me well for the roughly 3 years that I drove it. I'm in Canada so the prices may be out of whack for you but I paid $2850 for it brand new and got $1450 on a trade for a 77 Mercury 3 years later. Depreciation of less than $500 per year on a new car is not bad. Randy note original message partly deleted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT GM bashing It has become fashionable to bash GM lately. I recognize that there are a lot of problems at GM right now and certainly GM made some really lousy cars in the 70's and 80's. GM also gave us some pretty fantastic ideas. GM was the first domestic company to build a front wheel drive car (1966 Olds Toronado), the first domestic company to try their hands at airbags, the first domestic company to build ABS cars and the first domestic company to attempt cylinder deactivation. I admit there have been some spectacular failures on the part of GM, for example: 1. The Chevy Vega Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] One more CarFax..... please!
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190E VIN WDBDA34D0HF269510 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBDA34D0HF269510 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information Records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Problems Found! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 14 records for this 1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 190 SERIES 190E. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 1997-09-17 marietta, GA 128660 title 1997-10-08 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 1998-10-23 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 1999-08-21 GA 149396 passed emission inspection 1999-10-29 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 2000-10-23 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 2001-09-01 marietta, GA passed emission inspection 2001-09-25 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 2002-09-14 marietta, GA passed emission inspection 2002-09-27 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 2004-10-16 marietta, GA passed emission inspection 2004-10-29 marietta, GA registration event/renewal 2005-10-29 marietta, GA passed emission inspection 2005-10-31 marietta, GA registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Passed Emission Inspection Vehicle passed the state emission inspection. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190E No Consumer Guide® data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide® makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide® Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide® or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Customer Support Chuck Landenberger wrote: Kaleb, A CarFax on WDBDA34D0HF269510 If you can... Thanks Chuck Phoenix, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] oil test interval?
Ron Dwelle wrote: I did two oil-sample tests on my 240D and two oil-sample tests on my 190DT, and decided to extend the oil-change interval to 7,500 miles. (I'm sure I could have gone to 10K miles, but I chickened out.) Now, I've gone through 2 oil changes on my 190DT and I'll have to do the 2nd oil change on my 240D in a couple weeks. Question: is there a reasonable length of time, or number of miles, or number of oil changes, that I can confidently go before I do more oil sample tests? (The tests are a little pricey.) What do you think? You need to do a check if ANYTHING relevant to the oil condition changes. Is the weather a LOT different, or the driving pattern different or has the fuel economy or oil consumption changed? The primary reason to sample the oil and establish it's condition is to determine how the oil holds up. Once you know that, it's not likely to change until the conditions change. I know how my cars behave in city driving and with highway driving. I know what cold, wet weather does to the condition of the oil in my cars. I don't need to sample it often - at least not until SOMETHING unusual that could influence oil condition occurs. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
Everybody's a critic, and in keeping with my shallow and vapid ways, I don't have any actual experience with their products or engineering, but I've always hated GM purely on aesthetic grounds. I came of automotive age in the early '80's, and they made (and still do) hideously offensive looking vehicles, from the inside out. Each successive design cycle has continuously reinforced my subjective prejudice, sometimes causing me to laugh out loud and/or shoot liquids through my nostrils upon viewing their latest offerings. Pathetic and poorly executed derivatives have been par for the course. The other two Detroit rejects aren't much better, but at least they can be counted on to dredge up something to pique my interest from time to time...not the General though. Incidentally, MB's grotesque new R-class and CLS500 coupe look like they were swiped from the General's cutting room floor--a new low in Teutonic automotive design. Totally Bangled There, I feel better now. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
In MO, the Federal background check is only required for long gun purhcases when you buy from an FFL (gun store, etc). Private sales are no different than buying a cord of wood. Buying a car from your buddy is far more complicated than buying a rifle from your buddy...fitting as cars are FAR more dangerous than guns :-) In MO, however, you do need a PTA (permit to acquire) a handgun. I really HATE this law. Technically, I cannot lend my pistol to my wife without violating this law...loaning, even to your wife is an illegal transfer without having this $10 form...and I would need another $10 form for her to lend it to me. Actually only two people have ever been convicted under it - one for falsifying the document and the other was a coke dealer. Which means it is universally ignored, even by the police. It's THAT stupid. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are approved or not. The gun is then tranferred to you. If you buy from an individual, most of the time its just a cash deal and thats it. Its possible the seller will want to go to a gun dealer and have the paperwork filled out to transfer the gun to you. Gary Hurst wrote: well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the standard procedure is. it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble shooting someone with it. it has no magazine either. granted, all of that could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid would kill someone with it. more likely, i'd think, it was sold to criminals on the cheap if it was taken. these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia. anyone can go to any gun show and buy one. I bought mine in a parking lot of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with a van full of assault rifles. this transaction took place in plain site of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47 is no big deal here. as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my possession, no one can be killed by it. and if it is out of my possession, searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime. I cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the past failure of losing my weapon. As I have never been in this position before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be. my trunk was locked. i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession that is not locked. it is simply gone and i don't yet know how. right now i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing. i'm not sure my attitude is all that oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by this. It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious breach of a shooter's unwritten code. losing your firearm is terrible thing the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me. I don't believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical can do anything but further erode the situation. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 00:57:43 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.206]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhGI3-0002wK-Ge for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:57:43 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so25888wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:57:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references;
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
GM, GM, GM. The cheap heap of the past, Dodge, is nowadays the hottest tamale. And Ford? hideously offensive looks like the whole line over the past 15 years. All look like Tauruses (Tauri ?), including the newest Jaguar. God forgive, what have they done. On 11/29/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody's a critic, and in keeping with my shallow and vapid ways, I don't have any actual experience with their products or engineering, but I've always hated GM purely on aesthetic grounds. I came of automotive age in the early '80's, and they made (and still do) hideously offensive looking vehicles, from the inside out. Each successive design cycle has continuously reinforced my subjective prejudice, sometimes causing me to laugh out loud and/or shoot liquids through my nostrils upon viewing their latest offerings. Pathetic and poorly executed derivatives have been par for the course. The other two Detroit rejects aren't much better, but at least they can be counted on to dredge up something to pique my interest from time to time...not the General though. Incidentally, MB's grotesque new R-class and CLS500 coupe look like they were swiped from the General's cutting room floor--a new low in Teutonic automotive design. Totally Bangled There, I feel better now. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] OT Speaker Repair
Fred, google stereo speaker driver repair and you'll see there are loads of places that will do it for a reasonable fee ($20 or so and shipping) As you might guess, it is a common failure. Same failure theory as the MB vacuum actuators for the door locks!! Good luck. John Peterson - Original Message - From: frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Speaker Repair Hi,All. This is an OT request for info about Stereo speaker repairs. I have an old, circa 1980, pair of made in Poland stereo speakers that need repair/replacement of the foam plastic suspension stuff around the speaker cone. The speaker cone itself is in as new condition, the foam has partly separated and is very fragile. These 10 speakers have a mount (body?) ring of machined aluminum about 1 thick. Questions, are these worth fixing, does anyone still do this? or should I just buy new speakers? As you can tell, I'm not at all knowledgeable about audio bits and thingys. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Old diesels, old stereos, old body, ancient brain. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 01:06:52 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-19-127.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.19.127] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EhGQu-0003nW-GD for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:06:52 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:06:49 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB in Movie Preview X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:06:52 - yea, remember that one too. Ed Booher wrote: In Trading Places a 600 is used for shuttling both Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy to Duke Duke for their daily trading. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's visual problems
oh yea, I forgot, you like the cheap class. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cadillac, MB, they all look the same anymore. I'll send along a pair of my old specs. RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
Good call, the compression test is first in line, before I start throwing $ at it. On 11/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd check the compression of #1 to see if the seal between the the cylinder and the oil passage has failed. Valve stem/seal problems producing the symptoms you describe are VERY rare in OM60x engines even after 300-400kmi of service. Turbo seal failures are also rather rare. 603.96 engines almost NEVER have shown up with bent rods (I've heard of one or two). Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
with a stick shift you dont need to worry about unhooking the driveshaft. Curt Raymond wrote: So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
If it's really a 5spd manual, then just make sure (really sure) it's in neutral and you're good to go. Congrats by the way! On 11/29/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D
No, actually, I'm not sure of much of anything at this stage of my life. The older and more experienced I become, the dumber I see myself as being. On 11/29/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Don, Are you sure its past tense?; ) At 12:46 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: Don't forget that Andrew lives and works in DC, so is sort of out of touch with what happens outside the Beltway. I was the same way until I moved from the area in 1995. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
I take the wife. Using a dolly is ok too because an '85 still has the rear pump in the tranny. On 11/29/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] blower motor repair
This is on a model that many of us can't afford. My brother-in-law (some of you might remember Gene from the last OkieQ) has been asked to replace the blower motor in his boss's Benz -- 94 or 95 E420. Black paint, black leather interior, tinted windows. And no, but owner isn't African-American. Actually, he is originally from Iran. A millionaire -- in a business that doesn't involve the importing of oil. He sells aircraft parts. Where is this blower motor located? Anyone have the pdf with the procedure (cough, hello there Marshall?)? Part is $700 from the dealership (yes Rusty, I will check your prices) and labor is quoted as $400. Thanks for the assistance. Don -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123?
my god, i really want one with red leather interior. That, or olive green. On 11/29/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I prefer a lighter interior and exterior colour, those dark blue interiors make me feel claustrophobic. I have had no probs with dirt (including having a couple of kids in the back doing what kids do). Must admit the worst interior colour is those blood red ones...uuugghh. Hendrik - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123? Dark blue is much prettier than tan and it doesn't show dirt - a real plus! On 11/28/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already have them and in a much nicer tan colour. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
The original plan with the AKP-Wagen was for alternative fuel testing. But I recently moved 6 blocks from work, 5 blocks from Church, 5 blocks from my daughter's school and within 2 miles of everywhere I go. We all know that you can run a diesel on whateverthanol for a short period...but for me to test it for a long period, I have to drive it all the time. This leaves the SD parked...which I don't like. It seems to not like being parked for long periods. So should I abandon the alternative fuel project and sell it for $500 and drive the SD all the time OR would it be better to keep it for my 6/10 of a mile commute (saving alot of wear and tear on the SD) and just drive the SD on weekends when I run alot of errands. Of course the SD or TD are always for long trips, depending on the # of kids (everyone fits in the TD with the third seat). I really wish I had a longer commute. I love driving the SD and I'm never going to make 1,000,000 miles driving 1.2 miles/day for 5 days a week...but that can't be helped. Marshall made a comment a few weeks ago that some part of the GP relay can fail if it sits for a couple weeks. Not sure...just don't need three cars when I have nowhere to drive. If I abandoned the alternative fuel, I think I would rename it RostWagen (Rust Car). I think someone on the list mentioned that they were looking for their own AKP-Wagen...anyone remember who that was? Thoughts? Will be out of internet world till tomorrow morning, so won't be responding till then. Thanks -Christopher Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 01:42:09 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([216.148.227.154] helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhGz3-0007JR-1d for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:42:09 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 2005113001415901400q4role; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:42:04 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:41:59 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] blower motor repair X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:42:09 - LT Don wrote: This is on a model that many of us can't afford. My brother-in-law (some of you might remember Gene from the last OkieQ) has been asked to replace the blower motor in his boss's Benz -- 94 or 95 E420. Black paint, black leather interior, tinted windows. And no, but owner isn't African-American. Actually, he is originally from Iran. A millionaire -- in a business that doesn't involve the importing of oil. He sells aircraft parts. Where is this blower motor located? Anyone have the pdf with the procedure (cough, hello there Marshall?)? Part is $700 from the dealership (yes Rusty, I will check your prices) and labor is quoted as $400. Thanks for the assistance. You remove the wiper then open the blower housing and the blower replacement is a snap. http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Climate/83-556.pdf http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC2/Program/Chassis/82-0680.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:38:26PM -0800, Christopher McCann wrote: So should I abandon the alternative fuel project and sell it for $500 kaleb would probabably come up to missouri to get it... K
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
Rent a dolly from U-haul. Not sure about the driveshaft with an mb, but the tow itself is a piece of cake. tows fine. Easy to do. Tell U-haul you're towing the lightest make and model car you can think of, though--they've got some kind of formula of tow-vehicle weight to towed-vehicle weight and they won't rent it to you unless it fits the formula, which is pretty conservative, and way below the tow rating of most tow vehicles. You can lie, and they'll never know, unless you're invovled in an accident, in which case there insurance won't cover it. I didn't get their insurance, and wasn't worried, so I just lied. I've towed my vanagon Westfalia a couple thousand miles on such a dolly, and a diesel jetta hundreds of miles--both at 70 mph. Felt fine. Have fun! Dan So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 182k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k
Re: [MBZ] blower motor repair
Thanks to all for the advice. Shall print out and have Debbie pass on to Gene. On 11/30/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: This is on a model that many of us can't afford. My brother-in-law (some of you might remember Gene from the last OkieQ) has been asked to replace the blower motor in his boss's Benz -- 94 or 95 E420. Black paint, black leather interior, tinted windows. And no, but owner isn't African-American. Actually, he is originally from Iran. A millionaire -- in a business that doesn't involve the importing of oil. He sells aircraft parts. Where is this blower motor located? Anyone have the pdf with the procedure (cough, hello there Marshall?)? Part is $700 from the dealership (yes Rusty, I will check your prices) and labor is quoted as $400. Thanks for the assistance. You remove the wiper then open the blower housing and the blower replacement is a snap. http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Climate/83-556.pdf http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC2/Program/Chassis/82-0680.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Too much security
Better biometric fingerprint scanners are near-impervious to such a feat. They don't read the ridges on the surface, but the ridge pattern below the epidermis, in the dermal layer of the skin. And as such, they are reading the live flesh. If a finger is cut off and used, it might work for a short while, but as the finger dies it will no longer work with the reader. Tim 1982 300TD Moby
[MBZ] Delvac Exists in Canada!
I'd kept my eyes open for the last year for Delvac 1 in Canada, but didn't see it anywhere. I figured it just wasn't available. But when I took my Golf TDI to Mr. Lube for an oil change on the weekend, they had no Mobil 1 15w50. Instead, the guy pulled out a jub of Mobil Delvac 1. I couldn't believe my eyes and promptly requested that he put that stuff in my car. Sweet. On a side note, a big later-model Ford diesel pickup pulled into the bay facing me. They drained the old oil and when it was time to replenish the goo, they pulled out a big cardboard box. Then one guy started withdrawing litre containers from the box and lining them up on the truck while the other guy poured them in. I asked how many they were going to stick in that engine. 14.5 litres was the reply, and that it was only dino oil. My Golf took a mere 4.5 but at least it was synthetic. Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123?
Must admit the worst interior colour is those blood red ones So I thought, until I got the Frankenheap. The red/black color scheme has grown on me. -- Jim
[MBZ] Frankenheap
Today I drove the Frankenheap on errands. It snowed a lot, but the car worked just fine for us. Hakka 1's all the way around. We've taken the SL's off the insurance, and I'm switching over to the heap. -- Jim
[MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
not sure if this one got posted. -CM Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he might, but the question here is, SHOULD I sell it. Obviously I have to decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... ESSENTIALLY: Is the wear and tear of a 6/10 of a mile drive 2 times a day on the SD worse than letting the SD sit 5-6 days/week? Chris Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:38:26PM -0800, Christopher McCann wrote: So should I abandon the alternative fuel project and sell it for $500 kaleb would probabably come up to missouri to get it... K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 02:11:37 2005 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.211]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhHRZ-0001KK-KP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:37 + Received: from lono2.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id 20051130021130m91003fsvge; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:31 + Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.7.2]); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:11:30 -0600 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:04:53 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:37 - Great answer to a smart a $$ question. 9.5 points out of 10~ At 07:09 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: No, actually, I'm not sure of much of anything at this stage of my life. The older and more experienced I become, the dumber I see myself as being. On 11/29/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Don, Are you sure its past tense?; ) At 12:46 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: Don't forget that Andrew lives and works in DC, so is sort of out of touch with what happens outside the Beltway. I was the same way until I moved from the area in 1995. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices in Midwest
Hey - I was actually agreeing with you this time! On 11/28/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. You gave me the salary range. On 11/29/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup! On 11/28/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gotta move south. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
Don't you want to drive it? I would either get there and drive it back or take the wife along and caravan back just so I could try it out! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:06 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what? So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT Hey you rural Okies and Iowans
Kaleb's the only one who could be considered rural, but that'd be stretching it. He has good Internet service now from a wireless firm - someone else beat us to it. On 11/29/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least where I live, the local telephone company offers Internet access (thru NetINS). I've had DSL for several years now, and had dial-up prior to that. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
I'd still like to have a 67 to 69 Chevy Impala in good condition. I'd say that would be similar to the pickup. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:48 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing I think they alway made good trucks. The cars were a different story. R A Bennell wrote: On the other hand, GM made some darned good vehicles in the mid to late 60's. I still have a 68 Chevy pickup and it rides as good as any truck I have ever driven. Everytime I drive it I am amazed by how good it is given how old it is and how little it has had by way of upkeep in the past 20 years. It is a 292 and a powerglide too so not exactly the cream of the crop in GM parts. It would likely be even better with a small block V8 and a turbohydro 350.
Re: [MBZ] Bought a 190D, now what?
Curt, I would opt for #2... You could take a tool box and be sorta ready for whatever And you should also arrange a nice mid-point stay in order to thank your wife for her understanding of your addiction! I know it's only 400 miles, but some things are PRICELESS. Good luck and have a very Merry Christmas.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ 1980 300SD On Nov 29, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: So I bought an '85 190D 2.2l 5spd. Its in New Jersey, I'm in MA. Theres a couple ways to go retrieve it. Travel down w/no car and drive it back. Drive down with my wife and caravan back. Drive the truck down and somehow tow it back. My truck is a '96 Dodge Dakota, the 190D is definately within its limits for towing. I'm thinking a tow dolly would be very practical for this but I've never used one before. Is there anything I need to consider in dollying the car? Would I need to drop the driveshaft or something like that? Its nearly 400 miles I'll need to travel. Thanks Curt - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Cheap Kentucky Diesel 'Burb
http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/114587375.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD
[MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
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Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
Zeitgeist wrote: Everybody's a critic, and in keeping with my shallow and vapid ways, I don't have any actual experience with their products or engineering, but I've always hated GM purely on aesthetic grounds. I came of automotive age in the early '80's, and they made (and still do) Heh, I think the exact opposite... To me GM makes the only decent looking truck nowadays (no comment on their cars though goes either way depending on model). Dodge's looked really good when the new body style came out in 94-95? but the new ones just look super bloated. The 96- Ford trucks I like, and the 96+ are super bloated and plasticy looking to me. The new new ones scream I'm compensating for something! same for the new Dodge body style... The UK Ranger has the same styling as the most recent F150, but since its not super bloated looks very nice! Also really like the interiors of the 95+ GM trucks, very nice to look at, good quality for the most part, etc. Every other interior before that is ugly as hell though (what on earth were they thinking on some of those!!) Was anything in the 80's decent looking (other than MB of course ;)? John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] anybody want rear headrests in their 123?
My MGA had red leather seats - every summer they'd dye the backs of my shirts red from the sweat leaching the dye out of the leather -- -- On 11/29/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my god, i really want one with red leather interior. That, or olive green. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] blower motor repair
gollie i didn't think it would really matter ... , [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 94 or 95 E420. Black paint, black leather interior, tinted windows. And no, but owner isn't African-American. Actually, he is originally from Iran.
[MBZ] google video [some MB content]
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2889527841583480458 Andy
[MBZ] OT Speaker
Rich, Jin, John. Thanks for the info. Time to Gargle? Snapple? Oh! Ggle! TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Where it is always Friday!
Re: [MBZ] OT GM bashing
On 11/29/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Ford? hideously offensive looks like the whole line over the past 15 years. All look like Tauruses (Tauri ?), including the newest Jaguar. The X-type and S-type look like Tauri... but the XJ looks like a Crown Vic!!! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Kinda OT: Rust on cylinders
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:06:27 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turn the enigne over - then clean them. The grit, etc. will run all over your arms, not into the rings. I presume that's turn the engine upsidedown not rotate the crankshaft. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Big brother is coming for your car
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:57:55 -0600 Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe we already pay $.05 more in tax per gallon for diesel. Depends upon the state, though I don't know the specifics. Craig
Re: [MBZ] WSJ article on high price of diesel
Actually, isn't benze(i)ne a main component of gasoline? --R Christopher McCann wrote: well, it was called that, but not b/c of Benz. It was sold as a cleaning agent which you bought at the pharmacy/apothecary. Is not gasoline still benzin in German? Chris Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it ran on Benz-ine! --R Marshall Booth wrote: It is claimed that the automobile that Benz assembled in the 19th century was powered by gasoline because it was the major unused waste product after fuel oil was extracted from crude so was rather inexpensive. Marshall ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
could this be a problem on my 617? On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:43:42 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Methinks valve stem seals, a headgasket and turbo seals are in order...or, I have a bent rod, or the head is toasty, or all of the above. I'd check the compression of #1 to see if the seal between the the cylinder and the oil passage has failed. Valve stem/seal problems producing the symptoms you describe are VERY rare in OM60x engines even after 300-400kmi of service. Turbo seal failures are also rather rare. 603.96 engines almost NEVER have shown up with bent rods (I've heard of one or two). Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist Rod Bender in Phoenix......
That car is listed as an SD...is it the shorter wheel base like the early 126s? My local stealership told me that any 126 body that contains an 'L' in the name is the long wheel base and there were some in the later 80's and early 90's that were short wheel based. Is this the coorect thought?? On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:07:07 -0600, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/113750006.html -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
[MBZ] list?
down?? yet again?? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
[MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes)
On 11/29/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hitler gave directions to Porsche on basic design elements of the KdF-Wagen.. one being the shape, another being the seating capacity, another being the fuel economy. Another being, legend has it, that it be able to run in any climate found in the Third Reich, once the Nazis had won the war---from North Africa to Siberia. Hence air-cooling, since cooling systems in '30s watercooled cars, before modern antifreeze formulations, tended to either freeze or boil over at the drop of a hat. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
That sounds very similar to the symptoms when my head gasket blew (603.971). Oil started leaking into the #1 cylinder. Be careful about cranking/running it at all now. When I pulled the head, the #1 piston did not protrude as far as the others and I had to replace the connecting rod. Looking back, the bent rod could have been caused by hydrolock from the oil seeping into the cylinder from the extended cranking and short runs I made when I was diagnosing the problem. All that oil made the compression test results flaky so I was scratching my head for a while. Sometimes the compression on #1 would be 100 psi lower than the others, sometimes it would be 150 higher. I finally chanced to look into the prechamber when #1 was at TDC after I had been cranking the engine for a compression test and saw oil rising to cover the glow plug. Had that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach... -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99 E300 On 11/29/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: My OM603 has just now started to smoke (blue) so much so, that I think I'll be parking her for some time. This started with excessive smoking at startup, then progressed to a little puff of blue upon acceleration and is now emitting a minor cloud on acceleration and at idle. Methinks valve stem seals, a headgasket and turbo seals are in order...or, I have a bent rod, or the head is toasty, or all of the above. I'd check the compression of #1 to see if the seal between the the cylinder and the oil passage has failed. Valve stem/seal problems producing the symptoms you describe are VERY rare in OM60x engines even after 300-400kmi of service. Turbo seal failures are also rather rare. 603.96 engines almost NEVER have shown up with bent rods (I've heard of one or two). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
Curt, I see, I see very thoughful with the Marine Battery. You doing that is truely love. I travel allot in sales and some times I stay at hotels in the Northeast, New England/Upstate NY area. When I check into a hotel, I ask for the spot for the handicapped car which translates into I need an outdoor 110 volt plug for my 1977 300D and my 100 foot extention cord. I find myself always looking where there are 110 volt outdoor plug ins near parking lots and other areas as I travel. Funny how that goes Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go Nope, I use the marine battery to power the block heater. Technically I use the battery to power an inverter to power the heater but you get the idea. 3rd floor walkup, my apartment is on the other side of the building. We're looking to buy a condo with parking lot exposure so I don't have to do this any more. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:10 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt said To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Carfax please?
I'm sure I should have done this before I BOUGHT the car, and now maybe I'm better off not knowing but WDBDB22C3FF087606 -Curt - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 13:52:53 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhSO6-0005CQ-Te for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:52:53 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so102721wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:52:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZsCkW4wvsFH1jh1oYANYnvGndY0iJFMuxUwl6awFOWTPBmXiouwSpj0US2nE1NwBiBeXPjj6Cd7PWnI2/3ak+JETR9WcvhZfOpR5S5qrO9izyQxTgD6pXg+K30Ta7cybm6Nik3OVtfegMlXneNBRgejC7oN/iBLmqfNEOARjwho= Received: by 10.54.78.19 with SMTP id a19mr531810wrb; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.147.13 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:52:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:52:42 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:52:54 - Keep the 240D, even if you only run it occasionally. Trust me -- you will have a daughter looking for a set of car keys before you know it. On 11/29/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he might, but the question here is, should I sell it. Obviously I have t= o decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... ESSENTIALLY: Is the wear and tear of a 6/10 of a mile drive 2 times a day on the SD worse than letting the SD sit 5-6 days/week? Chris Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:38:26PM -0800, Christopher McCann wrote: So should I abandon the alternative fuel project and sell it for $500 kaleb would probabably come up to missouri to get it... K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotk=E4ppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr=FCfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] GM/What?
Do they (GM) make any diesels now at all? I have a 2003 duramax and that has an isuzu motor in it. George Mason wilton strickland wrote: I also watched GM ruin the diesel market in N America. Wilton 80 240D totaled at 15 yrs and 185kmi 81 300D sold at 24 yrs and 170kmi 91 350SDL 181kmi 87 300D showroom cond. at 94kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes)
I didn't know that, but the bug was quickly remade into the Kubelwagen (a jeep essentially)...it saw wide service (aka the THING, when it came to the US). An amphibious version was the schwimmwagen and a special 4WD with huge tire version for SS officers was called the Kommander?-Wagen. One of Hitlers first acts as Chancellor was a visit to the Berlin auto show where he scolded the German car industry for building the best cars in the world, but not a practical one that the average German could afford. He compared ownership rates to the US. Porsche eventually visited Ford (awarded the highest medal a foreigner ever received from the Reich for his help in increasing industrial production in Germany - his views on Jews dove-tailed with the Nazis, yet he helped to send tanks to the Soviets later...capitalist!) to learn about cheap mass production. Hitler promoted racing by heavily funding both MB and Auto Union (if you're the master race, you need to win - and they did). The result was the VW plant at KdF Stadt (now Wolfsburg)...the car was built under a Nazi agency: Kraft durch Freude (Strength through Joy) and, IMO, it was a great thing. VERY cheap cruises, trips, and all sorts of programs to raise the general wllbeing of the working class. VW was a state owned plant/project integrated into this agency's mission. Nto to be confused with the RAD (Reich Arbeiter Deinst), which was similiar to our WPA, also a good thing, IMO. I WOULD like to know more about the rear-engine, air-cooled MB's of the era. Saw a picture of 1 once. It was NOT a VW built at Untertuerkheim, but MB's own design - yet similar from the outside. Also interesting is the story of an American GI who became friends with a top MB executive right after the war. I forget the names of both. THe German liked to hunt, but was not allowed to have guns and the GI had the guns. They hit it off. THe GI was hired at MB as an exec...went home to the US to gather his stuff and moved back to Germany and worked as an MB exec for decades. Interesting story. Chris Chris Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/05, Christopher McCann wrote: Hitler gave directions to Porsche on basic design elements of the KdF-Wagen.. one being the shape, another being the seating capacity, another being the fuel economy. Another being, legend has it, that it be able to run in any climate found in the Third Reich, once the Nazis had won the war---from North Africa to Siberia. Hence air-cooling, since cooling systems in '30s watercooled cars, before modern antifreeze formulations, tended to either freeze or boil over at the drop of a hat. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:16:50 2005 Received: from solanne.parasun.net ([204.174.16.15]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhSlN-0008IF-Oc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:16:50 + Received: from [24.39.222.124] (helo=yoursz6x6sefxo) by solanne.parasun.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhSlB-00064S-A8 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:16:41 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:16:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help:
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
I'd say keep it. That short commute is going to be VERY hard on any car, why not make it hard on a car thats disposible? Alternately sell it for $500 and pick up a cheap gas car to beat on... -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:08:07 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 not sure if this one got posted. -CM Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he might, but the question here is, SHOULD I sell it. Obviously I have to decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... ESSENTIALLY: Is the wear and tear of a 6/10 of a mile drive 2 times a day on the SD worse than letting the SD sit 5-6 days/week? Chris - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:21:03 2005 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhSpT-Jl-C3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:21:03 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.249]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAUELAaP007243 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:21:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:20:59 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:21:10 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:21:03 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 Cripes, you stole that thing! The Webasto (or is it Espar) heater alone is worth more than you paid. Grumble... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
9 years...there will be no floor pans by then...no rocker panels either...maybe we can put the engine on a go cart frame... :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep the 240D, even if you only run it occasionally. Trust me -- you will have a daughter looking for a set of car keys before you know it. On 11/29/05, Christopher McCann wrote: he might, but the question here is, should I sell it. Obviously I have to decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... ESSENTIALLY: Is the wear and tear of a 6/10 of a mile drive 2 times a day on the SD worse than letting the SD sit 5-6 days/week? Chris Kevin wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:38:26PM -0800, Christopher McCann wrote: So should I abandon the alternative fuel project and sell it for $500 kaleb would probabably come up to missouri to get it... K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:25:20 2005 Received: from solanne.parasun.net ([204.174.16.15]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhStc-iq-Mj for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:25:20 + Received: from [24.39.222.124] (helo=yoursz6x6sefxo) by solanne.parasun.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhStX-0006iw-4l for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:25:16 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:25:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warm ups? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:25:20 - I belive Quaker State 10-40 is what he said he used in that Chebbie 6. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Warm ups? Here's my $.02 if you want it. Let your car warm up for 5 minutes or so in the warm weather and 10 minutes in the really cold stuff. Just because the oil pressure guage shows pressure it doesn't always mean EVERYTHING in the engine is oiled yet. My best friends father used to do a demonstration with an old Chevy 250 inline 6. He would remove te rocker cover and tell someone to start the car and watch the manual oil pressure gauge he had under the hood. The gauge would go up after only a few
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
That's the way it is here and I am under the impression that is a Federal regulation. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are approved or not. The gun is then tranferred to you. If you buy from an individual, most of the time its just a cash deal and thats it. Its possible the seller will want to go to a gun dealer and have the paperwork filled out to transfer the gun to you. Gary Hurst wrote: well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the standard procedure is. it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble shooting someone with it. it has no magazine either. granted, all of that could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid would kill someone with it. more likely, i'd think, it was sold to criminals on the cheap if it was taken. these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia. anyone can go to any gun show and buy one. I bought mine in a parking lot of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with a van full of assault rifles. this transaction took place in plain site of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47 is no big deal here. as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my possession, no one can be killed by it. and if it is out of my possession, searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime. I cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the past failure of losing my weapon. As I have never been in this position before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be. my trunk was locked. i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession that is not locked. it is simply gone and i don't yet know how. right now i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing. i'm not sure my attitude is all that oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by this. It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious breach of a shooter's unwritten code. losing your firearm is terrible thing the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me. I don't believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical can do anything but further erode the situation. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
You can't have enough Mercedes cars! At least keep it till you find one to replace it! If keeping it bothers your conscience, sell/donate it to Lt. Don -- he needs another project to keep him off the streets. On 11/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9 years...there will be no floor pans by then...no rocker panels either...maybe we can put the engine on a go cart frame... :-) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
Well, OK Don and Curt agree - beat the AKP-Wagen into the ground and keep the SD for Saturday errands, Sunday drives and road trips. No sense getting a gasser to beat on when I can beat on a 240D...I like the car, even though it's a heap - part of the charm, PLUS I use it as a learning tool. Not being to mechanically inclined, I do things to it I would not attempt on the SD or TD - like my upcoming valve adjustment. Looking forward to it. So I guess letting the SD sit during the week won't hurt it too much if it is driven on the weekend? THanks for the advice. Chris Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say keep it. That short commute is going to be VERY hard on any car, why not make it hard on a car thats disposible? Alternately sell it for $500 and pick up a cheap gas car to beat on... -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:08:07 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann Subject: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 not sure if this one got posted. -CM Christopher McCann wrote: he might, but the question here is, SHOULD I sell it. Obviously I have to decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... ESSENTIALLY: Is the wear and tear of a 6/10 of a mile drive 2 times a day on the SD worse than letting the SD sit 5-6 days/week? Chris - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:28:23 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.194]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhSwY-00015t-VC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:28:23 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 14so1942735nzn for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:28:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aIbshlukrt2Lg+9gG0EyRT9P6vdz6S/bcnVQIzh+CfTUDVvOGFnaLdo7roYl4hf2Cy6BMstbfFx3EhKWL3LTefTFwZvzyN95+OlYSuIZ9gsKnKx6MtfqCLXzBjbdeU8OnHxNlfSbsOVbmyCjCkeKx2s+uIx5HTIX/s6F8KgkX3w= Received: by 10.65.250.11 with SMTP id c11mr186029qbs; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.139.11 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:28:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:28:20 -0500 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:28:23 - My coworker has a Thing sitting in his driveway. It's a long-term restoration project. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know that, but the bug was quickly remade into the Kubelwagen (= a jeep essentially)...it saw wide service (aka the THING, when it came to = the US). An amphibious version was the schwimmwagen and a special 4WD with= huge tire version for SS officers was called the Kommander?-Wagen.
[MBZ] FS in Houston300SD
Saw this in the paper this morning: 80 Mercedes 300SD Turbodiesel 140k miles excellent $3450 obo 281-550-7383 If anyone is interested I might be able to take a look at it depending on where it is --R
[MBZ] Kaleb's going to Iowa
Kaleb, That looks like too nice a car to part out. If you put a fuel pump and get it running, let me know I would very interested in it. I know it is a gasser. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes)
Chris wrote:the car was built under a Nazi agency: Kraft durch Freude
(Strength through Joy) and, IMO, it was a great thing. VERY cheap cruises,
trips, and all sorts of programs to raise the general wllbeing of the
working class. VW was a[SNIP]
One thing to remember - the German people were encouraged to use a layaway
program set up by the Nazi's to buy the VW's - unfortunately, as production
was ramping up they invaded Poland in 9/39 and the Beetle production was
changed over to military needs. *Very* few VWs were delivereed to the
people they were intended for - and they money they'd paid into the layaway
program was lost.
Leaving all those empty miles of Autobahn available for Nazi military
vehicles --
Sincerely,
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From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes)
I didn't know that, but the bug was quickly remade into the Kubelwagen (a
jeep essentially)...it saw wide service (aka the THING, when it came to the
US). An amphibious version was the schwimmwagen and a special 4WD with huge
tire version for SS officers was called the Kommander?-Wagen.
One of Hitlers first acts as Chancellor was a visit to the Berlin auto
show where he scolded the German car industry for building the best cars in
the world, but not a practical one that the average German could afford. He
compared ownership rates to the US. Porsche eventually visited Ford
(awarded the highest medal a foreigner ever received from the Reich for his
help in increasing industrial production in Germany - his views on Jews
dove-tailed with the Nazis, yet he helped to send tanks to the Soviets
later...capitalist!) to learn about cheap mass production. Hitler promoted
racing by heavily funding both MB and Auto Union (if you're the master
race, you need to win - and they did). The result was the VW plant at KdF
Stadt (now Wolfsburg)...the car was built under a Nazi agency: Kraft durch
Freude (Strength through Joy) and, IMO, it was a great thing. VERY cheap
cruises, trips, and all sorts of programs to raise the general wllbeing of
the working class. VW was a
state owned plant/project integrated into this agency's mission. Nto to be
confused with the RAD (Reich Arbeiter Deinst), which was similiar to our
WPA, also a good thing, IMO.
I WOULD like to know more about the rear-engine, air-cooled MB's of the
era. Saw a picture of 1 once. It was NOT a VW built at Untertuerkheim, but
MB's own design - yet similar from the outside.
Also interesting is the story of an American GI who became friends with a
top MB executive right after the war. I forget the names of both. THe
German liked to hunt, but was not allowed to have guns and the GI had the
guns. They hit it off. THe GI was hired at MB as an exec...went home to the
US to gather his stuff and moved back to Germany and worked as an MB exec
for decades. Interesting story.
Chris
Chris
Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/05, Christopher
McCann wrote:
Hitler gave directions to Porsche on basic design elements of the
KdF-Wagen..
one being the shape, another being the seating capacity, another being
the fuel economy.
Another being, legend has it, that it be able to run in any climate
found in the Third Reich, once the Nazis had won the war---from North
Africa to Siberia. Hence air-cooling, since cooling systems in '30s
watercooled cars, before modern antifreeze formulations, tended to
either freeze or boil over at the drop of a hat.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
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Re: [MBZ] WSJ article on high price of diesel
There is a hydrocarbon called benzene, but it is not the same as benzin. Chris Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, isn't benze(i)ne a main component of gasoline? --R Christopher McCann wrote: well, it was called that, but not b/c of Benz. It was sold as a cleaning agent which you bought at the pharmacy/apothecary. Is not gasoline still benzin in German? Chris Rich Thomas wrote: I thought it ran on Benz-ine! --R Marshall Booth wrote: It is claimed that the automobile that Benz assembled in the 19th century was powered by gasoline because it was the major unused waste product after fuel oil was extracted from crude so was rather inexpensive. Marshall ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:31:10 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.203]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhSzG-0001TZ-Bx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:31:10 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i4so103797wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dZfJn06zTsBhyin0Kh/N5uerRcJrMSDnd8V+VfIuwo4dmljrnLR88kq0Z5v0W1OjXgwWIsg6ZJNxg6vxU+RMZvPn8FDY5PefvJZOKsCF7xIpM252Xn/Ied41h3HhiYrxgXvWpgdGcEEEv2Mtar7+XcU6G8Ck3ZLHNILi65nu99s= Received: by 10.54.109.4 with SMTP id h4mr496966wrc; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.147.13 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:31:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:31:08 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:31:10 - I preferred the suggestion that you donate it to me. I am sure that my daughter would love to drive it to school (one mile commute) and to work (one mile commute). On 11/30/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, OK Don and Curt agree - beat the AKP-Wagen into the ground and kee= p the SD for Saturday errands, Sunday drives and road trips. No sense gett= ing a gasser to beat on when I can beat on a 240D...I like the car, even tho= ugh it's a heap - part of the charm, PLUS I use it as a learning tool. Not being to mechanically inclined, I do things to it I would not attempt on the SD or TD - like my
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
I considered selling it to a workmate for $1. He needs a second car. He bought a 220D brand new in 1973 (or so) and drove it for 19 years. He's older than me, a really nice guy, has a LONG commute to work and continue putting crap in the tank and continue the experiment...but I think I will just use it for these terribly short commutes, esp when it is -5 C like this morning. THe SD doesn;t even get up to temp in 6 blocks - BAD, BAD, BAD. Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't have enough Mercedes cars! At least keep it till you find one to replace it! If keeping it bothers your conscience, sell/donate it to Lt. Don -- he needs another project to keep him off the streets. On 11/30/05, Christopher McCann wrote: 9 years...there will be no floor pans by then...no rocker panels either...maybe we can put the engine on a go cart frame... :-) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:37:29 2005 Received: from wsip-24-249-104-140.ks.ks.cox.net ([24.249.104.140] helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhT5M-0002Ia-TR for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:37:29 + content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:30:21 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: AKP-Wagen Thread-Index: AcX1upfW6+Cq3h//RbSg/664tBnAUA== From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:37:29 - Christopher McCann wrote: =20 he might, but the question here is, should I sell it. Obviously I have to decide that myself, but haven't been able to..the only pro to keeping it would be to reduce wear and tear on the SD for these very short trips to work... =20 Maybe somebody else would drive up there and buy it. Like me. I have heard stories about this car, but I don't know exactly what it is.=20 =20 Kaleb doesn't need another Mercedes (he has a fleet including a very nice although non-running 126 that he got for LESS than $500). I need one however. Look at that sad signature (hint see below). =20 Donald H. Snook 1992 Oldsmobile 98 120K -- mine=20 1998 Ford Explorer 95K - wife's =20
Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum...
If I decide to ditch it, I'll keep your daughter in mind. Would give it to her, not to you. You'd probably take it back from her!...Here sweetie, I found this great little...uh...uh...Yugo for you. You're too young to remember what GREAT cars these were...let's swap :-) Chris (making myself laugh) LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I preferred the suggestion that you donate it to me. I am sure that my daughter would love to drive it to school (one mile commute) and to work (one mile commute). On 11/30/05, Christopher McCann wrote: Well, OK Don and Curt agree - beat the AKP-Wagen into the ground and keep the SD for Saturday errands, Sunday drives and road trips. No sense getting a gasser to beat on when I can beat on a 240D...I like the car, even though it's a heap - part of the charm, PLUS I use it as a learning tool. Not being to mechanically inclined, I do things to it I would not attempt on the SD or TD - like my upcoming valve adjustment. Looking forward to it. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 14:58:55 2005 Received: from solanne.parasun.net ([204.174.16.15]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhTQ7-0004Hm-Hb for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:58:55 + Received: from [24.39.222.124] (helo=yoursz6x6sefxo) by solanne.parasun.net with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhTQ4-0005EY-LP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:58:53 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:58:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Kentucky Diesel 'Burb X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:58:55 - That looks like a SWEET deal. Mike - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Kentucky Diesel 'Burb http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/114587375.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Nice 300SD
I don't usually post these, but this one is REAL nice. I can't have another MB right now, but I bet someone can. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4594239163sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT He has it for sale locally for $5800. My bet is that when the auction ends it will go for much more. He will take the local price. No affiliation or interest other than helping out etc. Would love to have this deal, however. Let me know if anyone buys it- I'd like to see it. John Peterson Kingston, RI 1991 300D 2.5 74k
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's going to Iowa
Looks Like Kaleb got himself a 280 SE Euro with US bumpers. Interesting that it does not have velour seats Iowa's way to license a non US version has been to title it as the next-closest US version. It is probably titled as a 380SE My first car was a rusted out 56 Karmann Ghia. I took it up to the courthouse to change the title, and get the license. They told me it didn't exist. I told them it did, and they could go outside and look at it. In the end, they licensed it as a 56 bug. At 08:22 AM 11/30/2005, you wrote: Kaleb, That looks like too nice a car to part out. If you put a fuel pump and get it running, let me know I would very interested in it. I know it is a gasser. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Kentucky Diesel 'Burb
Thats not bad at all. Those are great vehicles. Rick Knoble wrote: http://lexington.craigslist.org/car/114587375.html No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] Subject: Re: AKP-Wagen conundrum...
No biggie, just make sure the trips in the SD count, meaning no shorty runs like you'll be doing with the 240D or if you do some short runs make sure theres a good long run to get everything warmed up and burn the condensation out of the engine. Keep the fuel tank topped off and maybe give it a shot of water remover every other month or something. Might have to change the oil a little more often but as Marshall says you won't know without analysis... Also nothing says you HAVE to take the 240D, you could take the SD a couple times a week if you wanted... -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] AKP-Wagen conundrum... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, OK Don and Curt agree - beat the AKP-Wagen into the ground and keep the SD for Saturday errands, Sunday drives and road trips. No sense getting a gasser to beat on when I can beat on a 240D...I like the car, even though it's a heap - part of the charm, PLUS I use it as a learning tool. Not being to mechanically inclined, I do things to it I would not attempt on the SD or TD - like my upcoming valve adjustment. Looking forward to it. So I guess letting the SD sit during the week won't hurt it too much if it is driven on the weekend? THanks for the advice. Chris - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 15:29:46 2005 Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.45]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhTtw-0007j9-I6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:29:46 + Received: (qmail 44483 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 2005 15:29:37 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UCwrTU+Dd/MPsPlin7JhvR3PbPdNd3mtiqEvh5Vn5POhvM9gef3rpCcWTpZ9W13nUcba7it0o8k4Dlyiuy59RChfR7t0DMFgeKi7SIOC9G1Db0FlQ6i0JFR/4dTBWbLcbRuQG5DfWpn7cWibQ1EeIRN9icnwjIC9N0Qr4Jtd6Jw= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:29:37 PST Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:29:37 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: VW thing X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:29:46 - Theres one for sale by my parent's. Looks good from the road, but they want $3k for it which I think is probably a bit high. Dad says if they'd take $1500 he'd go for it. I'm tempted to go offer $1500 and see if they'll bite, its been out there for a month now... -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:28:20 -0500 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My coworker has a Thing sitting in his driveway. It's a long-term restoration project. Tim 1982 300TD Moby - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 15:31:19 2005 Received: from mx14.marshallnet.com ([207.206.203.14] helo=MAIL.spam-virus-intercept.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhTvS-0007yM-Tj for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:31:18 + Received: from [192.168.1.100] (12-216-23-233.client.mchsi.com [12.216.23.233]) by MAIL.spam-virus-intercept.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.3.435.0) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:31:15 -0600 X-Modus-BlackList: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.dwx.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:32:45 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Weeks
Re: [MBZ] list?
uhh, no Luther Gulseth wrote: down?? yet again?? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Carfax please?
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D VIN WDBDB22C3FF087606 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBDB22C3FF087606 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 10 records for this 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 190 SERIES 190D. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 1996-01-29 saint michaels, MD registration event/renewal 1998-01-15 saint michaels, MD registration event/renewal 2000-01-24 saint michaels, MD registration event/renewal 2000-11-14 egg harbor city, NJ 176268 title 2000-11-30 egg harbor city, NJ registration event/renewal 2001-11-30 egg harbor city, NJ registration event/renewal 2002-10-03 mays landing, NJ 199980 title 2003-01-31 mays landing, NJ registration event/renewal 2004-01-31 mays landing, NJ registration event/renewal 2005-01-31 mays landing, NJ registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D No Consumer Guide® data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide® makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide® Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide® or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Curt Raymond wrote: I'm sure I should have done this before I BOUGHT the car, and now maybe I'm better off not knowing but WDBDB22C3FF087606 -Curt - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT: VW thing
I looked at one a couple years ago that was in pretty nice shape. But the guy wanted something like $5000 for it. I told him I'd think about it and moved on. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/30/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theres one for sale by my parent's. Looks good from the road, but they want $3k for it which I think is probably a bit high. Dad says if they'd take $1500 he'd go for it. I'm tempted to go offer $1500 and see if they'll bite, its been out there for a month now... -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:28:20 -0500 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW origins (was Something fishy at Mercedes) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My coworker has a Thing sitting in his driveway. It's a long-term restoration project. Tim 1982 300TD Moby - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
whats this heater you are talking about? Jim Cathey wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 Cripes, you stole that thing! The Webasto (or is it Espar) heater alone is worth more than you paid. Grumble... -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's going to Iowa
Will do!! Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb, That looks like too nice a car to part out. If you put a fuel pump and get it running, let me know I would very interested in it. I know it is a gasser. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
Yea I think so. Mike Canfield wrote: That's the way it is here and I am under the impression that is a Federal regulation. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are approved or not. The gun is then tranferred to you. If you buy from an individual, most of the time its just a cash deal and thats it. Its possible the seller will want to go to a gun dealer and have the paperwork filled out to transfer the gun to you. Gary Hurst wrote: well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the standard procedure is. it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble shooting someone with it. it has no magazine either. granted, all of that could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid would kill someone with it. more likely, i'd think, it was sold to criminals on the cheap if it was taken. these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia. anyone can go to any gun show and buy one. I bought mine in a parking lot of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with a van full of assault rifles. this transaction took place in plain site of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47 is no big deal here. as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my possession, no one can be killed by it. and if it is out of my possession, searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime. I cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the past failure of losing my weapon. As I have never been in this position before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be. my trunk was locked. i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession that is not locked. it is simply gone and i don't yet know how. right now i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing. i'm not sure my attitude is all that oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by this. It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious breach of a shooter's unwritten code. losing your firearm is terrible thing the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me. I don't believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical can do anything but further erode the situation. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] GM/What?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they (GM) make any diesels now at all? I have a 2003 duramax and that has an isuzu motor in it. I know Isuzu makes the short block and the aluminum heads are GM specific, with NPRs getting iron heads. Does Isuzu make the aluminum heads or does GM make them?
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist Rod Bender in Phoenix......
The SDL was 86-87 Loren Faeth wrote: SDs were sold in the US 81-85 SDLs in 87 and 88 I believe both 350 SD and SDL were sold in 91. The prices were so high that i didn't pay much attention in those years. I was riding Da Bus in Honolulu At 11:03 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: That car is listed as an SD...is it the shorter wheel base like the early 126s? My local stealership told me that any 126 body that contains an 'L' in the name is the long wheel base and there were some in the later 80's and early 90's that were short wheel based. Is this the coorect thought?? On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:07:07 -0600, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/113750006.html -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] ADMIN
We are getting ready to move everything to a different server to see if that cures the occasional lapse in mail delivery. Apparently these are the only lists being run on my hosting service that are having this problem so it probably has something to do with the server we are one. Anyway, they are getting ready to do it right now and its possible we may be down for a while. Probably wont even notice but wanted to let everyone know it case it did go down. Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 15:55:52 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-19-127.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.19.127] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EhUJE-0002NX-K9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:55:52 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:55:51 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:55:52 - Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
Yep. North of Concordia (which is just off I-70). What are you picking up there? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 16:01:34 2005 Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.211]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhUOk-0003FO-N3 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:01:34 + Received: from lono2.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id 20051130160130m91003gak5e; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:01:30 + Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.7.2]); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:01:29 -0600 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:58:12 -0600 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist Rod Bender in Phoenix.. X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:01:35 - oops, wrong keys 86 and 87 is correct At 09:44 AM 11/30/2005, you wrote: The SDL was 86-87 Loren Faeth wrote: SDs were sold in the US 81-85 SDLs in 87 and 88 I believe both 350 SD and SDL were sold in 91. The prices were so high that i didn't pay much attention in those years. I was riding Da Bus in Honolulu At 11:03 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: That car is listed as an SD...is it the shorter wheel base like the early 126s? My local stealership told me that any 126 body that contains an 'L' in the name is the long wheel base and there were some in the later 80's and early 90's that were short wheel based. Is this the coorect thought?? On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:07:07 -0600, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/113750006.html -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C.
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
a 115 300D, probably to far to drive for that thing but oh well. Christopher McCann wrote: Yep. North of Concordia (which is just off I-70). What are you picking up there? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
can I have the headlight assemblies? -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 29, 2005 10:12 PM To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
have? Luther Gulseth wrote: can I have the headlight assemblies? -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 29, 2005 10:12 PM To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
Waverly, MO? Yes, NE of KC I was just east of waverly when i got the load of rust in the fuel for the truck a few weeks ago. Dude, you are spreading out! all the way to Des Moines At 09:55 AM 11/30/2005, you wrote: Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
816-786-7956 (cell) - call me if you need anything. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 115 300D, probably to far to drive for that thing but oh well. Christopher McCann wrote: Yep. North of Concordia (which is just off I-70). What are you picking up there? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 16:46:15 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-19-127.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.19.127] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EhV5z-0008Nr-4v for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:46:15 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:46:15 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:46:16 - will do Christopher McCann wrote: 816-786-7956 (cell) - call me if you need anything. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 115 300D, probably to far to drive for that thing but oh well. Christopher McCann wrote: Yep. North of Concordia (which is just off I-70). What are you picking up there? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea. Going to be in Waverly this weekend to pick up a car, I think that is just east of KC? Christopher McCann wrote: wow. I'm in KC if you get stuck along the way...I imagine you will haul it on a flat bed though...? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: cool Dan Weeks wrote: Sweet deal, Kleb! I'm in Des Moines if you need a hand. Dan http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
no paperwork. i gave him $500 and he gave me the gun. i had him write me a receipt though and took his business card On 11/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you bought it from a dude in a parking lot, did you have to fill out any papework to transfer ownership? Around here, if you buy a gun at a gun store or whatever, you have to fill out this deal and answer some questions, they call a phone number and find out if you are approved or not. The gun is then tranferred to you. If you buy from an individual, most of the time its just a cash deal and thats it. Its possible the seller will want to go to a gun dealer and have the paperwork filled out to transfer the gun to you. Gary Hurst wrote: well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the standard procedure is. it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble shooting someone with it. it has no magazine either. granted, all of that could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid would kill someone with it. more likely, i'd think, it was sold to criminals on the cheap if it was taken. these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia. anyone can go to any gun show and buy one. I bought mine in a parking lot of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with a van full of assault rifles. this transaction took place in plain site of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47 is no big deal here. as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my possession, no one can be killed by it. and if it is out of my possession, searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime. I cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the past failure of losing my weapon. As I have never been in this position before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be. my trunk was locked. i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession that is not locked. it is simply gone and i don't yet know how. right now i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing. i'm not sure my attitude is all that oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by this. It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious breach of a shooter's unwritten code. losing your firearm is terrible thing the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me. I don't believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical can do anything but further erode the situation. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
I could see the control unit and the thermostat for the parking heater, looks like an Eberspacher ( espar ) if it is, good luck finding parts in North America for it, been there, no go. only place I've found for parts for one of that vintage is ebay germany, even there, I couldn't find a combination air induction and coolant pump, and the us distributor said if they could get one,the price was more than I could get a whole new unit for. I have a d5 hydronic of that vintage on the shelf right now -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: whats this heater you are talking about? Jim Cathey wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 Cripes, you stole that thing! The Webasto (or is it Espar) heater alone is worth more than you paid. Grumble... -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa
whats this heater you are talking about? There's an extra control panel in the cabin, one of the buttons has a flame on it. By the exhaust manifold is some black boxery that's probably the heater proper. As I was the first (?) to notice this, if you part out the car that of course gives me first dibs on that heater, right? :-) Parts? I don't need no steenking parts, I have a welder! -- Jim
[MBZ] Franken-heapery
Updates: November 29, 2005 Dang. One of the snow tires is leaking, it was down to 15 psi this morning. Sigh, more crap to fix. Two of the four glue joints on the hood star failed, so I took it off and brought it in for more gluing. This time I made the wads of glue bigger. We'll see if it helps. Really it should be silver-soldered or something, but I've never done that. I moved the baby seat from the 450 SL to this car, and while I was installing it I noticed that the rear-window defroster, a cheap Chinese fan/heater thingy, now looks like it had been made by Salvador Dali. Completely melted into wavy shapes due to the sun beating in on the rear deck where it had been stored all summer. Not only the housing was wiped out, which maybe I could have corrected and/or lived with, but the blower's squirrel-cage fan was destroyed as well. Not a total loss, however, as I then got out the other one that was unopened in the trunk, and used the dead one's power cord to lengthen the new one's. This will allow better routing of the cable. (The dead one can supply a motor, a switch, a lighter plug, and a heating element to the junk box. Around here I keep [Use? I wish!] everything but the squeal!) I also made a little sheet-metal bracket that wedges behind the seatback to help hold the fan in position. It used to tip over so its feeble jet of barely-warm air went nowhere useful. Memo to self: next spring when putting the car away, put the fan someplace else! ...On errands today (such as getting license tabs for it) the car behaved well. It was even snowing most of the time, but no problems, and only a little fishtailing going up the hill. The relatively poor interior lighting (only one dome light) is not great, as is the lack of a real rear window defogger, but otherwise it was a pleasant trip for us all. I think my wife is a little surprised that this car is as nice as it is now. The functional (!) heater blower was very useful on this trip, we had a lot of interior fogging. November 30, 2005 I installed the re-glued hood ornament this morning. The snow that fell overnight on the warm car had frozen all the doors shut, so I just plugged in the preheating system, and 20 minutes later the windows were clearing and the door opened. It doesn't get any easier than that! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] turbo seal?
Dave/Marshall, The idea of me doing that test is totally out of the question... well, almost. :) I've done some weird things with repairing cars, like forgetting to release the parking brake before removing the rear rotors (the front wheels were blocked). I was thinking they were just rusted on, so I banged on the old rotor and made one helluva racket that the entire neighborhood heard. Even cracked the silly thing. Imagine that. Damned fool thing to do and I was lucky that I was putting on a new one or I'd have been really disgusted. When I finally discovered my stupidity luckily no one noticed (as they had all disappeared by then, or had their backs turned and were all talking about something completely different than my malady). Obviously, as soon as I released the parking brake, the damned things came off very easily. :) Oh, dopey me. Now, about the battery cable idea. :) It kinda makes some sense in getting more power to the plugs, but I am not about to traipse into the dealer and ask for a heavier/thicker battery cable. In fact, if I do anything like this, I will put a switch on the purple GP wire (where-ever the heck that thing is located) so the GPs will kind of pre-heat before I attempt to start the bloody car. Oh yeah... I plan on using 15w50 from now on... it will be changed out this coming weekend. And, once again, I don't plan on selling the beast anytime soon. Give me another couple of years to (hopefully) save up for a new C-class and I'll be happy. Maybe by then, M-B will be importing the C220CDI. :) Thanks to everyone who's replied... it has once again given me hope and dispair. Continued hope in this illustrious group as well as hope that all will be fine with little effort and money; and dispair that I could have been dumb enough to use 5w30 (I should have known better). Keep the shiny side up during the sleet-ice-snow season that is upon us. Later... Nick Gough - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 30 17:21:33 2005 Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net ([204.127.203.212]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EhVe9-0003y4-3c for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:21:33 + Received: from lono2.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id 20051130172129m9200al61qe; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:21:30 + Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.308 [266.7.2]); Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:21:29 -0600 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:17:03 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] looks like Im going to Iowa X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:21:34 - Is that basically like the gas heater for the old air cooled VWs? At 10:54 AM 11/30/2005, you wrote: I could see the control unit and the thermostat for the parking heater, looks like an Eberspacher ( espar ) if it is, good luck finding parts in North America for it, been there, no go. only place I've found for parts for one of that vintage is ebay germany, even there, I couldn't find a combination air induction and coolant pump, and the us distributor said if they could get one,the price was more than I could get a whole new unit for. I have a d5 hydronic of that vintage on the shelf right now -Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: whats this heater you are talking about? Jim Cathey wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4593301032 Cripes, you stole that thing! The Webasto (or is it Espar) heater alone is worth more than you paid. Grumble... -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
