Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
But now you can return the dead one right? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens. If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour. Not something I want to be good at, however. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show up... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show up... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Love it. A couple months ago I switched my wife's cell phone from Sprint to Ting, and for two months running we've saved $50 per month. The switch was fairly painless, kept her original number, she's happy. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one from them to begin with. I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens. I also don't have a fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
I went with Republic Wireless almost a year ago from Verizon. My bill went from $91 to $43.I did have to buy a new phone but with that monthly savings it only took about 6 months to pay for it, never mind the cash I got back for selling an iPhone 5. I get unlimited talk and text with 5GB data. Looks like with Ting I could potentially save some more since I never really go over about .5GB.LTE coverage seems to extend to my camp in Maine too which would be nice, currently I'm in roaming data there which mean I only get 25MB of data which runs out quick. Dad bought a hotspot so I can just buy a few gigs of data service but its not as handy as actually having it on my phone and my phone won't act as a hotspot on my current provider.Still, it doesn't look like I could save more than maybe $15/mo, lots of phone options though which is nice. Angie is still using ATT @$70/mo, maybe this will be an option for her. -Curt From: Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service Love it. A couple months ago I switched my wife's cell phone from Sprint to Ting, and for two months running we've saved $50 per month. The switch was fairly painless, kept her original number, she's happy. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Farmers cannot be trusted - what would they know about climate change?
Yes! I'll transfer to them in a heart beat. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 9, 2015 11:27:36 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What we _need_ is the BuSab! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens. If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour. Not something I want to be good at, however. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show up... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty instead of buying another one. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one from them to begin with. I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens. I also don't have a fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
I picked Ting because they ride on Sprint's network, so we could keep my wife's Sprint phone, iPhone 4s. Using their savings calculator I entered the usage data from four months of Sprint bills, and their estimated savings of $50/month has been spot-on for the first two months. If you switch from ATT, you may need a new phone. Yes, capitalism (market with lots of options) is good! Government-enforced monopolies (obamacare) are bad... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 10, 2015 8:58:58 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I went with Republic Wireless almost a year ago from Verizon. My bill went from $91 to $43.I did have to buy a new phone but with that monthly savings it only took about 6 months to pay for it, never mind the cash I got back for selling an iPhone 5. I get unlimited talk and text with 5GB data. Looks like with Ting I could potentially save some more since I never really go over about .5GB.LTE coverage seems to extend to my camp in Maine too which would be nice, currently I'm in roaming data there which mean I only get 25MB of data which runs out quick. Dad bought a hotspot so I can just buy a few gigs of data service but its not as handy as actually having it on my phone and my phone won't act as a hotspot on my current provider.Still, it doesn't look like I could save more than maybe $15/mo, lots of phone options though which is nice. Angie is still using ATT @$70/mo, maybe this will be an option for her. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Absolutely. Other than my time, the replacement cost nothing. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But now you can return the dead one right? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens. If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour. Not something I want to be good at, however. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show up... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Why would you need to buy a new phone, Curt? My LG retails for $500, or $150 copay under warranty. That means I wouldn't want to switch from Sprint. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I picked Ting because they ride on Sprint's network, so we could keep my wife's Sprint phone, iPhone 4s. Using their savings calculator I entered the usage data from four months of Sprint bills, and their estimated savings of $50/month has been spot-on for the first two months. If you switch from ATT, you may need a new phone. Yes, capitalism (market with lots of options) is good! Government-enforced monopolies (obamacare) are bad... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 10, 2015 8:58:58 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I went with Republic Wireless almost a year ago from Verizon. My bill went from $91 to $43.I did have to buy a new phone but with that monthly savings it only took about 6 months to pay for it, never mind the cash I got back for selling an iPhone 5. I get unlimited talk and text with 5GB data. Looks like with Ting I could potentially save some more since I never really go over about .5GB.LTE coverage seems to extend to my camp in Maine too which would be nice, currently I'm in roaming data there which mean I only get 25MB of data which runs out quick. Dad bought a hotspot so I can just buy a few gigs of data service but its not as handy as actually having it on my phone and my phone won't act as a hotspot on my current provider.Still, it doesn't look like I could save more than maybe $15/mo, lots of phone options though which is nice. Angie is still using ATT @$70/mo, maybe this will be an option for her. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Don't confuse weather with climate. Really very basic Andrew -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Meade, there's nothing to worry about. You don't have any beach front property anyway.. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Don't confuse weather with climate. As I understand it, climate is what you expect; weather is what you get. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
POLITICS:GOP businessman launches effort to convince conservatives on climate Republican climate activist Jay Faison, who yesterday announced a $175 million campaign to promote conservative action on warming, cautioned his party's presidential candidates to steer clear of skepticism on the campaign trail. He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. I think it will cost them if they take that position, Faison said in an interview. I think they know that. The wealthy entrepreneur plans to make his own waves in the race. He announced yesterday the creation of a $10 million nonprofit group that can be active in electoral politics. It's still unnamed, and Faison admits that he hasn't settled on a clear strategy for the foundation. I think there's quite a bit of specific legislative advocacy that can happen, he said. I think there's some electoral politics that we should be playing in. This is a political game, and we don't want to be restricted. For all the attention accompanying his money, Faison said he hasn't settled on a specific legislative policy to address climbing temperatures, which he describes as the world's biggest risk and the biggest opportunity. He emphasizes free-market solutions and acknowledges giving grants to the R Street Institute and the Niskanen Center, both of which promote revenue-neutral carbon taxes. He said that option and others are on the table. But he won't be pinned down. There's a lot of good Republican solutions available, Faison said. I think it's a little early to prescribe the solution. We need to start the dialogue first. Challenging Democratic dominance with 'smarter' arguments? For now, Faison said his ClearPath Foundation, another nonprofit prohibited from electioneering, and a new website launched yesterday named clearpath.org will seek to build a Republican climate movement by focusing on the science and the effects of warming. And that means avoiding gloomy warnings about global catastrophes. They don't appeal to his tribe. I think as a movement we've got to be smarter about how we position our arguments, Faison said. We don't want to slam capitalism. I think we need to be realists. I think we need to talk about solutions that businesses will like. In years past, Faison said, he was frustrated by the omnipresent Democratic ownership of the climate issue. When he sold his North Carolina-based company SnapAV, which distributes an array of electronic components like computer cords, security systems and speakers for specialty installers of audio-visual systems, Faison jumped into the climate realm -- as a rich donor. Environmental groups welcomed his participation yesterday, but some observers downplayed the impact of his investment, noting that the fossil fuel industry is injecting much more money to influence the debate ( *Greenwire* http://www.eenews.net/greenwire/2015/06/09/stories/1060019906, June 9, 2015). That made Faison laugh. It's a lot more money than there was yesterday, he said of pro-climate efforts. Look, I know, the other side's got a lot of money and a lot of power, but I encourage the whole community to be positive and start framing the arguments in ways that are appealing to both sides of the aisle, he said. The truth is on our side, he added. So we don't need to beat the New York Yankees with the most money. But we do need to be on the same ballfield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
We already knew Alaska was having some crazy weather lately. That included a record 91 degrees Whoopdeedoo! Record high and record low temps are recorded every year in the short time temps have been recorded. (couple hunnert years or less in most cases) How old do your geology textbooks say the earth is? Some number of millions of years. Now what percent of that number is 200 years of recorded temps? DO NOT CONFUSE SPECIAL CAUSE VARIATION WITH NORMAL VARIATION. Read Walter Shewhart's book written in the 30s. It is still true today! We don't have enough uncorrupted records to capture normal variation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
I don't confuse Curly with a rational person either. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We already knew Alaska was having some crazy weather lately. That included a record 91 degrees Whoopdeedoo! Record high and record low temps are recorded every year in the short time temps have been recorded. (couple hunnert years or less in most cases) How old do your geology textbooks say the earth is? Some number of millions of years. Now what percent of that number is 200 years of recorded temps? DO NOT CONFUSE SPECIAL CAUSE VARIATION WITH NORMAL VARIATION. Read Walter Shewhart's book written in the 30s. It is still true today! We don't have enough uncorrupted records to capture normal variation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
I didn't know this was a big issue for Latinos. I thought they are more interested in getting their papers and free sh*t. And little tires and loud stereos for their trockas. --R On 6/10/15 10:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: POLITICS:GOP businessman launches effort to convince conservatives on climate Republican climate activist Jay Faison, who yesterday announced a $175 million campaign to promote conservative action on warming, cautioned his party's presidential candidates to steer clear of skepticism on the campaign trail. He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
ATTABOY on the 420; 'hope it goes well with the 500. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
And, if she's happy, everybody's happy. ;) ATTABOY Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service Love it. A couple months ago I switched my wife's cell phone from Sprint to Ting, and for two months running we've saved $50 per month. The switch was fairly painless, kept her original number, she's happy. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheepcheepchinee scope
Could be fun for cheepcheep but you gotta sotter it all up http://www.dxsoul.com/product/diy-dso138-digital-oscilloscope-kit-electronic-learning-kit-black-red-901383995 I might order one just for grins --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Sorry to confuse things. I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return the core. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty instead of buying another one. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one from them to begin with. I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens. I also don't have a fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Oh ok Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry to confuse things. I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return the core. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty instead of buying another one. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one from them to begin with. I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens. I also don't have a fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Here's something else to not be concerned about - probably a left wing conspiracy by NOAA. We already knew Alaska was having some crazy weather lately. That included a record 91 degrees https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/05/26/alaska-recorded-its-hottest-temperature-so-early-in-the-season-over-memorial-day-weekend/in Eagle in May, the “hottest temperature ever recorded so early in the calendar year in our 49th state,” per https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/05/26/alaska-recorded-its-hottest-temperature-so-early-in-the-season-over-memorial-day-weekend/ our own Capital Weather Gang. And now, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reports http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/summary-info/national/201505 that the state as a whole experienced its warmest May in the weather books. As the agency puts it: The Alaska http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/climatological-rankings/index.php?periods[]=1parameter=tavgstate=50div=0month=5year=2015#ranks-form statewide average temperature for May was the warmest on record in 91 years of record keeping at 44.9°F, 7.1°F above average. The warmth in Alaska was widespread with several cities were record warm, including Barrow and Juneau. The consequences of this warmth were myriad, including much early year melting of snow. As we have previously reported, North America saw its t https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/06/03/from-alaska-to-california-may-snow-cover-was-the-third-lowest-on-record/hird lowest snow cover on record https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/06/03/from-alaska-to-california-may-snow-cover-was-the-third-lowest-on-record/ for May of 2015. And as you can see in the figure below, much of that was due to anomalously low snow cover across Alaska: [image: Rutgers Global Snow Lab] Rutgers Global Snow Lab http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/ So doesn’t this just mean Alaskans are having some awesome late spring and early summer weather, and are going to get to spend more time outdoors enjoying it? Maybe, but there’s a major downside to new Alaskan heat records like this one — which relates to how the polar amplification of global warming https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/unfccc/sbsta40/SB40_research_dialogue_hezel_wgI.pdf could actually make global warming itself worse. If there’s less snow cover in the high north https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/06/03/from-alaska-to-california-may-snow-cover-was-the-third-lowest-on-record/, then more sun reaches the bare earth, which is darker and absorbs more of it, as David Robinson, a snow cover expert from Rutgers, explained last week. And that increases the chance of thawing permafrost — frozen soil beneath the surface. Across the Arctic, permafrost soils contain massive amounts of carbon dioxide https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/04/01/the-arctic-climate-threat-that-nobodys-even-talking-about-yet/. Scientists think these soils are going to start emitting, and it won’t always be a slow, steady process. Large bursts of carbon may also be released in northern megafires https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/05/14/how-massive-wildfires-can-actually-warm-the-planet/ — like one that occurred on the North Slope in 2007. As I reported in May https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/05/14/how-massive-wildfires-can-actually-warm-the-planet/ : One region where wildfires could have a large climate impact is in the forest of the Arctic. The fear is of a future featuring more fires like the gigantic, “unprecedented http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7357/full/nature10283.html” 2007 Anaktuvuk River fire http://www.iab.uaf.edu/news/news_release_by_id.php?release_id=94 that consumed 1,039 square kilometers of North Slope tundra, single-handedly giving off 2.1 million metric tons of carbon. And 60 percent of that, a team of scientists found http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7357/full/nature10283.html in 2011, came not from vegetation but from the Arctic’s carbon-rich permafrost soils, which the fire had burned away. There’s no telling how hot Alaska will get this summer, but the state is off to an incredible start. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
I wonder if there will be a renaissance in steam powered cars. You wouldn't have these prtoblems with a steam powered car. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh ok Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry to confuse things. I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return the core. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty instead of buying another one. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one from them to begin with. I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens. I also don't have a fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical. Dan On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has a life time warranty? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Don't confuse weather with climate. As I understand it, climate is what you expect; weather is what you get. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
I thought you caucus(s)ed with the Rs? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BASIC PREMISE: FAIL He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. the findings have crumbled and washed away as the massive frauds have been exposed. Even many of those who committed the frauds have left the global warming/climate change fraud/extortion racket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
All over the place online. Your nose looks to be number 299: http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1083730ukey_make=1103ukey_model=16069modelYear=1985ukey_category=24392 Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
Thanks! You and me both. The youngest boy is really missing the car. He's been driving his Mom's former 2005 Mazda 6. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:29 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ATTABOY on the 420; 'hope it goes well with the 500. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours... Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30: The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery checked? I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm. I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back. 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine. I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.) We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add. So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock. Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange. We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity. Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic. Oy. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Still no answer as to why these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_del_Paine_National_Park were under (the tops) 1.5km of ice 10k or 12k years ago, and now the ice is 3km lower than it was then. This is in no way to dispute Andrew's views on whatever he is viewing, I just wanna know if mastodon farts caused this melting, or what. --R On 6/10/15 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Here's something else to not be concerned about - probably a left wing conspiracy by NOAA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
BASIC PREMISE: FAIL He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. the findings have crumbled and washed away as the massive frauds have been exposed. Even many of those who committed the frauds have left the global warming/climate change fraud/extortion racket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Geology is awesome. Glad I majored in it. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still no answer as to why these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_del_Paine_National_Park were under (the tops) 1.5km of ice 10k or 12k years ago, and now the ice is 3km lower than it was then. This is in no way to dispute Andrew's views on whatever he is viewing, I just wanna know if mastodon farts caused this melting, or what. --R On 6/10/15 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Here's something else to not be concerned about - probably a left wing conspiracy by NOAA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Google.com, type in ting wireless... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
Explained the hose location to Gary and he ordered the right one. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.894.5505 On Jun 10, 2015, at 03:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose How do I get a part number for it? Or do I simply order generic (approx. 1 dia.) coolant hose and cut it to match? If it doesn't have any molded bends in it and Goodyear or Gates quality is good enough for you (5-10 year life vs maybe 10-20 for factory) you can just take it off, and have the guys at FLAPS cut an appropriate piece off a roll of bulk hose to match it. Hopefully if it isn't close enough to a common inch denominated side to do that, they'll tell you instead of selling you a too-large hose. If you want it RIGHT, go here and look it up. You have to give them a credit card to activate a free one year subscription, IIRC. http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/login.jsp ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Ting link please? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: She'll definitely need a new phone, hers is ancient. I like that Ting supports lots of models while Republic only has two. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
She'll definitely need a new phone, hers is ancient. I like that Ting supports lots of models while Republic only has two. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
Actually mine was #257. Or are you referring to Andrew's hose? Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.894.5505 On Jun 10, 2015, at 04:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All over the place online. Your nose looks to be number 299: http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1083730ukey_make=1103ukey_model=16069modelYear=1985ukey_category=24392 Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Ting link please? https://www.google.com/search?q=ting+cell+phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: To the best of my knowledge, failed oiler tubes won’t cause oil pressure to drop in the main gallery, just at the heads and lifters. The typical symptom is lifter noise, as the failure of a tube or two causes oil pressure to drop in the oil gallery feeding the lifters. Holy crap, 119 180 02 66 is a SINGLE plastic oiler tube for $17? And the engine holds 16 of them, for $270? No wonder people are paying $230 for a set of 1992 vintage 119 187 000 87 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
I'm not into economics. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:36 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, Total whack jobs spending millions on futile false premises is part of the economic stimulis plan... didn't you get that memo? A few million thrown out into the market place for something useless will result in a few more people having money... to go buy more things.. which consume more goods.. and generate more HEAT.. So... it all balances out.. See how that works? It's called The Exercise of Reality Theory. Suggested reading for you. You will be shocked and excited.. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought you caucus(s)ed with the Rs? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BASIC PREMISE: FAIL He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. the findings have crumbled and washed away as the massive frauds have been exposed. Even many of those who committed the frauds have left the global warming/climate change fraud/extortion racket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq
How tragic. The war that we'd already won under G.W. Bush is now slowly being turned into another micro-managed-from-the-oval-office slowly growing conflict, sure to take the lives of some of the young Americans sent there by Obama. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/10/obama-approves-sending-up-to-450-more-us-troops-to-iraq/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
HA! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Wealthy R loses his mind
Andrew, Total whack jobs spending millions on futile false premises is part of the economic stimulis plan... didn't you get that memo? A few million thrown out into the market place for something useless will result in a few more people having money... to go buy more things.. which consume more goods.. and generate more HEAT.. So... it all balances out.. See how that works? It's called The Exercise of Reality Theory. Suggested reading for you. You will be shocked and excited.. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought you caucus(s)ed with the Rs? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BASIC PREMISE: FAIL He believes that moderate Republican voters, especially those who are under 30 or Latino, could abandon the party if they're faced with a nominee who expresses doubt about mounting scientific findings around man-made warming. the findings have crumbled and washed away as the massive frauds have been exposed. Even many of those who committed the frauds have left the global warming/climate change fraud/extortion racket. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
No no no, we need a link that says something like Ting proves AGW exists and all Republicrats are racist morons, and THEN Andrew will click on it... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Law-abiding v. criminal. If the woman had chosen to be a criminal in exercising her Constitutional rights (figure that one out), the ex could have been the one purged from society instead of the woman. The criminal likely either stole it, or bought if from someone who stole it or sold it to him illegally. So criminals... --R On 6/10/15 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose
I received the following email from the MB Classic Center regading a part number for a leaky heater hose in my 1983 300TD: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. *Thomas Hanson* Supervisor, Parts Operations Mercedes-Benz Classic Center Mercedes-Benz USA 9 Whatney, Irvine, CA 92618 Email: *thomas.han...@mbusa.com thomas.han...@mbusa.com* Phone: 949-598-4842 Fax: 949-598-4870 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her. Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you. Restraining orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and be prepared. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? Who said it was legal? News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens prevents criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws. Disarming non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages crime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
If you read the article.. it says she was STABBED TO DEATH... so he killed her with a knife... Later, he shot himself.. source of that gun is unreported.. I wager it was stolen, and since he was a FELON.. by law, can NEVER legally own a gun.. Last report I heard.. bringing a knife to a gun fight pretty much means you LOSE... in this case.. the poor dead woman lacked the means to defend herself.. although she make every legal step to try to.. Sad... It is my opinion the state is responsible for a wrongful death by denying the woman the right to arm herself while failing to provide protection for her.. I'm sure the knife the man had cut right through the order of protection she held in front of her... On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? Who said it was legal? News flash for fools who think keeping guns from law abiding citizens prevents criminals from having or using guns: Criminals don't obey laws. Disarming non-criminals does nothing to reduce crime, it only encourages crime. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
Andrew, if you had read the article, you would have learned that he used a knife to kill her. News flash: knives and blunt force weapons (aka clubs) are used to kill more people than hand guns. - Max Charleston SC Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ting cell phone service
Be careful, Max. Morons have feelings too On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reflections on A Service
I know a couple of people you can get the aluminum ones from for $200 shipped with new O rings. That's pretty much the market price on Benzworld these days. You're going to go in there, you might as well do them all Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: To the best of my knowledge, failed oiler tubes won’t cause oil pressure to drop in the main gallery, just at the heads and lifters. The typical symptom is lifter noise, as the failure of a tube or two causes oil pressure to drop in the oil gallery feeding the lifters. Holy crap, 119 180 02 66 is a SINGLE plastic oiler tube for $17? And the engine holds 16 of them, for $270? No wonder people are paying $230 for a set of 1992 vintage 119 187 000 87 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq
Yep, sneaking into another one; probably gonna be home by Christmas, as usual. That's what I've heard too many times, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq How tragic. The war that we'd already won under G.W. Bush is now slowly being turned into another micro-managed-from-the-oval-office slowly growing conflict, sure to take the lives of some of the young Americans sent there by Obama. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/10/obama-approves-sending-up-to-450-more-us-troops-to-iraq/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq
War is not won until the enemy begs you to stop killing them On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:29 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, sneaking into another one; probably gonna be home by Christmas, as usual. That's what I've heard too many times, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq How tragic. The war that we'd already won under G.W. Bush is now slowly being turned into another micro-managed-from-the-oval-office slowly growing conflict, sure to take the lives of some of the young Americans sent there by Obama. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/10/obama-approves-sending-up-to-450-more-us-troops-to-iraq/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq
'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq War is not won until the enemy begs you to stop killing them On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:29 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep, sneaking into another one; probably gonna be home by Christmas, as usual. That's what I've heard too many times, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq How tragic. The war that we'd already won under G.W. Bush is now slowly being turned into another micro-managed-from-the-oval-office slowly growing conflict, sure to take the lives of some of the young Americans sent there by Obama. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/10/obama-approves-sending-up-to-450-more-us-troops-to-iraq/ - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
The Ex used a knife. But it could have been a stick, a boot, or a fist with the same result. God made men and women. Colt made them equal. -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:15 PM How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ
It should be obvious that anyone with the cash who is willing to break the law can obtain a gun, despite laws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Vietnam all over again: Obama approves sending up to 450 more US troops to Iraq
How tragic. The war that we'd already won under G.W. Bush is now slowly being turned into another micro-managed-from-the-oval-office slowly growing conflict, sure to take the lives of some of the young Americans sent there by Obama. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/10/obama-approves-sending-up-to-450-more-us-troops-to-iraq/ - Max Charleston SC Sam Clovis stated the criteria for involvement very well. (USAF Col., Retired) 1. National Interest? 2. protection of resources necessary for our economy? 3. Protection of our allies? I am for Sam's criteria, then if we get involved, the involvement should be a Patton-like response and the day after the start, the rest of the world should be in shock beyond shock and awe so that every tin pot dictator will think 24 times before they provoke us ever again.(think twice a dozen times) THAT was the USA I grew up in and that is what our folks in the Military services can do. Teddy Roosevelt said it very well in his first term before he lost his mind. Speak softly but carry a BIG stick We have several big sticks available. No bully (tin pan dictator) ever bothers again once you hit them hard. Every 'merkun kid used to learn that on the schoolyard, whether the bully or the bullied. I had a long fuse as a kid, but when the would be dictators didn't back off, the attack was calculated, positioned, deliberate and decisive. It was also final. Only one dumb irish kid ever came back for more. After a couple years he forgot the lesson. After the second lesson, he was never heard from again, going on 50 years now. He was around for a few more years, but his mouth was shut. Dealing with tin pot dictators from Dung or Vlad on down to andorra is the same. I didn't agree with reagan much when he was Pres, but history has born out his economic policies over the long haul, and the little tin pot dictator in libya was not heard from until billybob was elected and he thought he could mouth off safely. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Saga of the missing part number - W123 heater hose
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:06:38 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I received the following email from the MB Classic Center regading a part number for a leaky heater hose in my 1983 300TD: The part between 281 and 290 is a heater pipe assembly. And it’s discontinued. *Thomas Hanson* That means it's not a rubber hose, but a steel pipe. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day
Thanks Wilton! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Subject: [MBZ] 71 years and a day And we should never florget. I wrote the folllowing several years ago. Some of you may hjave seen it before. LITTLE BOATS AND 6 JUN 1944 By Wilton W. Strickland My brother, Lewis Clyde Strickland, then 21 and with 3 1/2 yrs in the US Navy, was the senior noncommissioned officer (NCO)/leader of a 48-man platoon of the 6th Naval Beach Battalion that went ashore on Omaha Beach, France, at 0730 on the 6th of June, 1944, to clear obstacles, secure the beach and control traffic to, from and on the beach. The unit was composed of many specialties, including demolition, signalmen, radiomen, riflemen, doctors, medical corpsmen (medics), bulldozer operators and others - whatever necessary to manage the beach. They wore army combat uniforms and trained with the Army for the invasion. The only thing visible to distinguish them from army troops was an arc painted across the front of their helmets. Most of the men in his platoon were teenagers just 17, 18 and 19 years old. Several of the older men had been in the invasion of Sicily and a few, such as Lewis, had been in the invasion of North Africa, where his ship had been sunk just offshore in Oct '42. Though small in stature, Lewis was a giant in courage, dedication to accomplishing the mission, determination and care for the men in his platoon. He served as their mentor, their mother, their father, their leader. They affectionately called him, Little Boats, in honor of his Navy specialty, boatswain's or boson's mate. Ensign Joe Vaghi, just out of college and new to the Navy when he became the platoon's Officer-In-Command (OIC) in late '43, said of Little Boats in 2001, He taught me everything I ever needed to know about the Navy. Little Boats died of pneumonia in 1997. The platoon had trained extensively for several months with army troops at Camp Bradford, VA, Fort Pierce, FL, and Swansea, Wales. They were delivered to Omaha beach on LCI(L) 88, (an infantry landing craft) operated by members of the US Coast Guard, as were many of the vessels in the invasion fleet. In 2001, I had the very distinct honor and pleasure of interviewing several of Little Boats' men and several of the equally brave Coasties (US Coast Guard) who delivered them to the beach on that fateful day of June 6, 1944, the memory of which should make all Americans, British, Canadians and other allies stand tall with pride. Most of the following is excerpted from those interviews: One of the seventeen-year-old riflemen, Seaman John Hanley, remembers, We formed up on the main deck of the LCI at the top of the port (left) ramp. Ensign Vaghi was # 1, and his assistants, Ensign Wright # 2, BM/1C Little Boats Strickland was # 3, I was # 4, and several of the other young riflemen were immediately behind me. As we approached the line of departure, we could see smoke from the shelling rising from the beach. About that time, an LCT coming out of the smoke off the beach on our port side let off a barrage of rockets. The German 88's had him straddled; you could see the shells hitting the water 8 to 10 feet behind 'im. She was at battle speed - 8 or 9 knots, and that's the last I saw of the LCT - we started passing 'im - we were coming up on the beach for the landing. Ensign Vaghi adds, On the beach were multiple rows of different types of obstacles, some with mines on them - tank traps, landing craft traps and amphibious truck (DUKW) traps. Later I learned that where we landed was the widest opening on the beach. The Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT) certainly did their jobs well. We lucked out by off-loading at low tide, too. If we had gone in at mid or high tide amid all those obstacles and mines, we would have been in serious trouble. Other landing craft, LCI(L) #85, for example, took quite a beating - a direct hit on the bow and on the starboard side, but we were lucky, we made our landing, and all of our platoon got ashore. Hanley: Yeah, we were surrounded by those mines on poles, but the Skipper found his way through an opening, or we were just lucky. As soon as I heard and felt the LCI hit bottom, the ramps on both sides went down. Vaghi was already going when the ramp hit the water. The seamen behind me were yelling, Go, Go, Go! I was trying to keep up with Vaghi and Little Boats as we flew down that ramp! It seemed like a long way down, too. When I saw that Vaghi and Little Boats were in the water, I threw my pack over the side and took just my rifle. When I hit the water, Ensign Vaghi and Little Boats were still right ahead of me. Two or three other seamen were with me. Little Boats and I were immediately in water up to our chins. There were dead infantrymen in the water all around me, and dead and wounded all around
[MBZ] 1998 Mercedes ML320 $1000
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Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day
Watching part of a Nova program tonight about D Day. One of the first scenes I saw had guys in a landing craft. The helmets had white arcs on them. Maybe it is little Boats and his group! Thanks Wilton! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Subject: [MBZ] 71 years and a day And we should never florget. I wrote the folllowing several years ago. Some of you may hjave seen it before. LITTLE BOATS AND 6 JUN 1944 By Wilton W. Strickland My brother, Lewis Clyde Strickland, then 21 and with 3 1/2 yrs in the US Navy, was the senior noncommissioned officer (NCO)/leader of a 48-man platoon of the 6th Naval Beach Battalion that went ashore on Omaha Beach, France, at 0730 on the 6th of June, 1944, to clear obstacles, secure the beach and control traffic to, from and on the beach. The unit was composed of many specialties, including demolition, signalmen, radiomen, riflemen, doctors, medical corpsmen (medics), bulldozer operators and others - whatever necessary to manage the beach. They wore army combat uniforms and trained with the Army for the invasion. The only thing visible to distinguish them from army troops was an arc painted across the front of their helmets. Most of the men in his platoon were teenagers just 17, 18 and 19 years old. Several of the older men had been in the invasion of Sicily and a few, such as Lewis, had been in the invasion of North Africa, where his ship had been sunk just offshore in Oct '42. Though small in stature, Lewis was a giant in courage, dedication to accomplishing the mission, determination and care for the men in his platoon. He served as their mentor, their mother, their father, their leader. They affectionately called him, Little Boats, in honor of his Navy specialty, boatswain's or boson's mate. Ensign Joe Vaghi, just out of college and new to the Navy when he became the platoon's Officer-In-Command (OIC) in late '43, said of Little Boats in 2001, He taught me everything I ever needed to know about the Navy. Little Boats died of pneumonia in 1997. The platoon had trained extensively for several months with army troops at Camp Bradford, VA, Fort Pierce, FL, and Swansea, Wales. They were delivered to Omaha beach on LCI(L) 88, (an infantry landing craft) operated by members of the US Coast Guard, as were many of the vessels in the invasion fleet. In 2001, I had the very distinct honor and pleasure of interviewing several of Little Boats' men and several of the equally brave Coasties (US Coast Guard) who delivered them to the beach on that fateful day of June 6, 1944, the memory of which should make all Americans, British, Canadians and other allies stand tall with pride. Most of the following is excerpted from those interviews: One of the seventeen-year-old riflemen, Seaman John Hanley, remembers, We formed up on the main deck of the LCI at the top of the port (left) ramp. Ensign Vaghi was # 1, and his assistants, Ensign Wright # 2, BM/1C Little Boats Strickland was # 3, I was # 4, and several of the other young riflemen were immediately behind me. As we approached the line of departure, we could see smoke from the shelling rising from the beach. About that time, an LCT coming out of the smoke off the beach on our port side let off a barrage of rockets. The German 88's had him straddled; you could see the shells hitting the water 8 to 10 feet behind 'im. She was at battle speed - 8 or 9 knots, and that's the last I saw of the LCT - we started passing 'im - we were coming up on the beach for the landing. Ensign Vaghi adds, On the beach were multiple rows of different types of obstacles, some with mines on them - tank traps, landing craft traps and amphibious truck (DUKW) traps. Later I learned that where we landed was the widest opening on the beach. The Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT) certainly did their jobs well. We lucked out by off-loading at low tide, too. If we had gone in at mid or high tide amid all those obstacles and mines, we would have been in serious trouble. Other landing craft, LCI(L) #85, for example, took quite a beating - a direct hit on the bow and on the starboard side, but we were lucky, we made our landing, and all of our platoon got ashore. Hanley: Yeah, we were surrounded by those mines on poles, but the Skipper found his way through an opening, or we were just lucky. As soon as I heard and felt the LCI hit bottom, the ramps on both sides went down. Vaghi was already going when the ramp hit the water. The seamen behind me were yelling, Go, Go, Go! I was trying to keep up with Vaghi and Little Boats as we flew down that ramp! It seemed like a long way down, too. When I saw that Vaghi and Little Boats were in the water, I threw my pack over the side and took just my rifle. When I hit the water, Ensign Vaghi and Little Boats were still right ahead of me.
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
In 1969 and 1970 we had a bunch of crazy weather. Many pundits blamed it in the moon rocks. Naa, as andy will assure you that was caused by all the escalades Rush has owned since 1990. Global warming/climate change was caused that long ago by the sins of the US citizens in the 90s, 00s, and 10s. But progressive's limos, escalades, albore jets, john kerrylinke yachts and the like don't pollute or contribute to this phenomena. It is magical how science shows that progressives don't pollute, and neither do chicoms, veetcoms, kimjongs, Stalin, Putie, or any other good marxist/communists/socialists... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Apparently, buying carbon credits offsets the effect of such things as al gores jet and other polutants, which then causes global cooling. Perhaps, this is why new cold winter records have been set.. send more money.. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In 1969 and 1970 we had a bunch of crazy weather. Many pundits blamed it in the moon rocks. Naa, as andy will assure you that was caused by all the escalades Rush has owned since 1990. Global warming/climate change was caused that long ago by the sins of the US citizens in the 90s, 00s, and 10s. But progressive's limos, escalades, albore jets, john kerrylinke yachts and the like don't pollute or contribute to this phenomena. It is magical how science shows that progressives don't pollute, and neither do chicoms, veetcoms, kimjongs, Stalin, Putie, or any other good marxist/communists/socialists... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
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Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day
I saw most of that show, too, though I missed first few minutes. 'Could be, if the craft were an LCI(L) with infantry ramps that come down on each side near the bow (not a Higgins boat). Whenever I see one of those scenes now, I try to study the person(s) for recognition; so far, 'haven't recognized one as my brother, Lewis (Little Boats). They're not usually in view long enough, unless one just by chance matches my memory of him 70+ years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 71 years and a day Watching part of a Nova program tonight about D Day. One of the first scenes I saw had guys in a landing craft. The helmets had white arcs on them. Maybe it is little Boats and his group! Thanks Wilton! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Subject: [MBZ] 71 years and a day And we should never florget. I wrote the folllowing several years ago. Some of you may hjave seen it before. LITTLE BOATS AND 6 JUN 1944 By Wilton W. Strickland My brother, Lewis Clyde Strickland, then 21 and with 3 1/2 yrs in the US Navy, was the senior noncommissioned officer (NCO)/leader of a 48-man platoon of the 6th Naval Beach Battalion that went ashore on Omaha Beach, France, at 0730 on the 6th of June, 1944, to clear obstacles, secure the beach and control traffic to, from and on the beach. The unit was composed of many specialties, including demolition, signalmen, radiomen, riflemen, doctors, medical corpsmen (medics), bulldozer operators and others - whatever necessary to manage the beach. They wore army combat uniforms and trained with the Army for the invasion. The only thing visible to distinguish them from army troops was an arc painted across the front of their helmets. Most of the men in his platoon were teenagers just 17, 18 and 19 years old. Several of the older men had been in the invasion of Sicily and a few, such as Lewis, had been in the invasion of North Africa, where his ship had been sunk just offshore in Oct '42. Though small in stature, Lewis was a giant in courage, dedication to accomplishing the mission, determination and care for the men in his platoon. He served as their mentor, their mother, their father, their leader. They affectionately called him, Little Boats, in honor of his Navy specialty, boatswain's or boson's mate. Ensign Joe Vaghi, just out of college and new to the Navy when he became the platoon's Officer-In-Command (OIC) in late '43, said of Little Boats in 2001, He taught me everything I ever needed to know about the Navy. Little Boats died of pneumonia in 1997. The platoon had trained extensively for several months with army troops at Camp Bradford, VA, Fort Pierce, FL, and Swansea, Wales. They were delivered to Omaha beach on LCI(L) 88, (an infantry landing craft) operated by members of the US Coast Guard, as were many of the vessels in the invasion fleet. In 2001, I had the very distinct honor and pleasure of interviewing several of Little Boats' men and several of the equally brave Coasties (US Coast Guard) who delivered them to the beach on that fateful day of June 6, 1944, the memory of which should make all Americans, British, Canadians and other allies stand tall with pride. Most of the following is excerpted from those interviews: One of the seventeen-year-old riflemen, Seaman John Hanley, remembers, We formed up on the main deck of the LCI at the top of the port (left) ramp. Ensign Vaghi was # 1, and his assistants, Ensign Wright # 2, BM/1C Little Boats Strickland was # 3, I was # 4, and several of the other young riflemen were immediately behind me. As we approached the line of departure, we could see smoke from the shelling rising from the beach. About that time, an LCT coming out of the smoke off the beach on our port side let off a barrage of rockets. The German 88's had him straddled; you could see the shells hitting the water 8 to 10 feet behind 'im. She was at battle speed - 8 or 9 knots, and that's the last I saw of the LCT - we started passing 'im - we were coming up on the beach for the landing. Ensign Vaghi adds, On the beach were multiple rows of different types of obstacles, some with mines on them - tank traps, landing craft traps and amphibious truck (DUKW) traps. Later I learned that where we landed was the widest opening on the beach. The Underwater Demolition Teams (UDT) certainly did their jobs well. We lucked out by off-loading at low tide, too. If we had gone in at mid or high tide amid all those obstacles and mines, we would have been in serious trouble. Other landing craft, LCI(L) #85, for example, took quite a beating - a direct hit on
Re: [MBZ] 1998 Mercedes ML320 $1000
Take a wad and go buy it --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1998 Mercedes ML320 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/ctd/5067962076.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
That's hose. Dang autocorrect. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All over the place online. Your nose looks to be number 299: http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1083730ukey_make=1103ukey_model=16069modelYear=1985ukey_category=24392 Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Did you also do studies in climatology? Why did the ice melt and expose the Torres del Paine? --R On 6/10/15 10:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Geology is awesome. Glad I majored in it. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still no answer as to why these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_del_Paine_National_Park were under (the tops) 1.5km of ice 10k or 12k years ago, and now the ice is 3km lower than it was then. This is in no way to dispute Andrew's views on whatever he is viewing, I just wanna know if mastodon farts caused this melting, or what. --R On 6/10/15 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Here's something else to not be concerned about - probably a left wing conspiracy by NOAA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different (not OT) - R/R W123 coolant hose
Mine is the straight length of hose between 281 and 290. Doesn't appear to have a number... On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's hose. Dang autocorrect. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All over the place online. Your nose looks to be number 299: http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1083730ukey_make=1103ukey_model=16069modelYear=1985ukey_category=24392 Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks, Mike - how did you get the part number? On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 85 300D was doing the same thing. I discovered the bendy line from the drivers side block to the heater line had a crack in it. It would only have a notable leak when coolant was full. I kept filling it up every couple of days before I left for work and would not see any leaks. I finally filled it when it was hot, I think I had the heater running, and noticed the leak. I loosened the cap and ordered a new hose from Gary. All is well now. Michael E. Esh 231 894 5505 On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The funny thing is, I discovered the leak b/c the car was over heating (usually it runs cool). I popped the hood and saw the short hose was oozing coolant, so I topped it up - took nearly a gallon of H2O through the filler tank. Now that the radiator coolant level is back to normal, the hose no longer drips. WTF??? On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Careful too because some of the MB hoses are not the same diameter at both ends. Dimitri's '78 240D has a heater hose that I spent an hour carefully stretching into place because to get the small end right meant the big end was too small. This was back when Trent either sent me the wrong thing or nothing at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT More Crazy Weather Not to Worry About
Might be connected to volcanism,... On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did you also do studies in climatology? Why did the ice melt and expose the Torres del Paine? --R On 6/10/15 10:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Geology is awesome. Glad I majored in it. On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still no answer as to why these mountains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torres_del_Paine_National_Park were under (the tops) 1.5km of ice 10k or 12k years ago, and now the ice is 3km lower than it was then. This is in no way to dispute Andrew's views on whatever he is viewing, I just wanna know if mastodon farts caused this melting, or what. --R On 6/10/15 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Here's something else to not be concerned about - probably a left wing conspiracy by NOAA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
