[MBZ] Adjusting the valves
I finally got to work on this poor old car and pulled the cam cover off and started on the valves this weekend. I ran out of time so it is sitting in the garage waiting for me to come back to it. I have 3 valves left to adjust. The intake on 4 and on 5 and the exhaust on 5. I sort of got stalled out on the exhaust on 5 as it is very tight to work in there. The valve is up against the cam tower and the wrenches are long enough that they bump into a support from the firewall and a wiring harness. I have been digging around for some other wrench that may work better. I have a short 14 mm and will try it next. If that does not do it, then I may be looking for a junk 14 mm to see if I can modify it some. All of the valves so far have been tight except for one. The intake on 1 was on spec at .004. The exhaust valves should be .012 but have mostly been .009. The intakes are supposed to be .004 but are too tight to read with a feeler gauge. Turning the engine over by using the nut on the end of the power steering pump worked fine after I figured out how to do it. The pump is mounted low on the driver's side of the car so there is not much room to reach in. I have a fairly long 22 mm combination wrench and it worked on the box end but not well due to the angle of the handle. I mucked about trying other wrenches like a crowfoot on a breaker bar but nothing really fit. I finally tried using the open end of the wrench and it worked fine. A bit slow as I can only move it a bit and then have to re-set the wrench but not too bad all things considered. I just did the valves in the order that they came up on the cam and not in number order so I did not turn the cam any more than necessary. I hope to do the last 3 this evening so I can put it all back together. The only disturbing part has been that something appeared to fall between the injection pump and the block. I have no idea what as I did not see what it might have been and have no idea what might be missing. I see nothing on the floor under the car and I can see nothing in between the engine and the pump. I will fish around with my magnet but since I don't know what I am looking for, I don't even know if it might be magnetic etc. Perhaps when I put it back together, there will be something obviously missing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 knocking
I had that experience a couple of years back out at the lake. I went to the local general store and there was a local woman standing outside when I got there. She looked at me and said, boy, your motor is sure knocking I said, it is a diesel All she said was Oh! Randy On 14/07/2014 2:46 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: SWMBO took the '87 300D to the carwash this morning. She just told me that the carwash guy came to her and exclaimed with great alarm that she needs to do something about the knocking engine - Sounds like it's 'bout to blow up! Wanna bet he didn't pay any attention to the glow light, either? I asked her if he were a teenager; she said he wasn't. I s'pose ignorance is bliss. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - a flying tale
Conway Twitty?? On 14/07/2014 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: That's really nice. Reminds me a bit of my first flight in a small plane with my parents, the pilot was a charter pilot, my mom had to get someplace quickly due to some family issue. He let me fly the plane quite a bit, even though I could barely see out the windscreen. It was a Cherokee 140. Turned out when I got my check ride about 8 years later in a 140, he was the check pilot! I told him he had completed the circle, and he was really pleased with that. He was a really nice guy. This guy had a stutter so bad he could barely communicate but when he got in the airplane he spoke like a radio announcer, not a trace. It was the strangest thing. --R On 7/14/14 3:22 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: The following article was written by my daughter a month or so ago for my 80th birthday. As one might expect, she's probably a bit biased. Wilton CLEAR! By Vivian Strickland Berry When I was 14 or 15 years old, my dad flew puddle jumpers (Cessna, 150's, 172's, 182's and 177RG's ) two or three times a week with a flying club in Sault Ste. Marie (The Soo), Michigan, on the northern border with Ontario, Canada. He was stationed at Kincheloe AFB about 20 miles south of The Soo, where he flew B-52's, and I attended high school. Dad was away from home a lot then, living in the alert facility on base about every other week and was often on long flights. This was in the early to mid 70's, so this was preparation training and part of the cold war readiness, keeping B-52's constantly ready for possible nuclear war with the Soviet Union. At the time I really had no clue, just knew he was flying a lot. What a difference flying in the giant B-52 and the Cessnas must have been. Some of my fondest memories with Dad are of our flights in those tiny planes, over the snow-covered and icy landscape of the Michigan Upper Peninsula. The Soo is located at the convergence of Lake Superior and Lake Huron, and the land is very forested, dotted with small farms and even smaller towns, so it is a very beautiful landscape. I didn't even have a drivers license, but dad encouraged me to take flying lessons, if I wanted to. Sorry I didn't take him up on it! I still learned a lot from those flights and remember clearly (but not as clearly as he does) how we checked the plane before take-off. He carefully looked over the fuselage and wings for cracks or any weak points, checked the flaps and control surfaces, the propeller, the oil and gas levels, and I am sure a whole list of other items before we would step up on the small step to climb in the small door of the cockpit about the size of a 2-seat sports car. After looking through the pre-flight check list, which was a literal checklist kept in the plane, Dad would open the latch on the side window and yell crisply and loudly, CLEAR!, close the window and turn the key to start the engine. OK, I said I was 14-15 years old. I thought that was the dorkiest thing ever! We had just driven 20 miles, seen probably a dozen cars on the way, parked our bright green Dodge van in an empty parking lot, and climbed into one of about three private planes at the airport. Who is he yelling at? No one heard him, so I was alright with it, but if he did that at a more populated airport, I would have been horrified. Yes, I know now that it's protocol, and a very important part of starting procedure, but who was he yelling at, the geese? Anyway :) We would taxi to the end of the runway, go over another check list, and then take off. The first time we did this together, I was thrilled. When he would get to air speed (surprisingly, not very fast) he slowly pulled back on the control column, and we were up. Awesome! Immediately you could see the shoreline of Lake Superior and the locks below, right beside the bridge to Canada. We would bank around to head south across the landscape, many times snowy white with a crisp, bright blue cloudless sky. We would check out the neighborhood spots, friends' houses, Pickford dry goods store where we bought clothes, my high school, Stuckey's at the interstate exit, Mackinac Island in the distance - all the hot spots. Once in a while, I got to take the controls in the co-pilot seat and bank the plane in a slow wide turn to the left or the right, keeping my eye on the horizon and that little airplane, you know, on that little dial thingy on the dash. My first driving lessons were actually in the air! Dad had nerves of steel, I am sure he was always in control, but it really was exciting. An hour or so in the air was a typical flight for us, then back to the airport for a perfectly smooth landing, at least that is how I remember them, another few checklists, and back to being the typical teen. Thanks, Dad, for taking me on those adventures, for embarrassing me, and for
Re: [MBZ] Adjusting the valves
I have the special set of bent wrenches bought from Rusty years back. They work fine on all the valves but this one. May have to see what I can bend to work better on it. On 14/07/2014 4:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I got a couple of cheap India wrenches at HF or a pawn shop or something for like a $USbuck apiece and put the torch to them to bend them to the proper angles to do the job easier. If you have a tight space you could cut one down too. I had done the job once before on the 300TD with regular wrenches and it stimulated Foul Oaths; whereas, the bent wrenches made it a lot easier the second time I did it. --R On 7/14/14 3:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I finally got to work on this poor old car and pulled the cam cover off and started on the valves this weekend. I ran out of time so it is sitting in the garage waiting for me to come back to it. I have 3 valves left to adjust. The intake on 4 and on 5 and the exhaust on 5. I sort of got stalled out on the exhaust on 5 as it is very tight to work in there. The valve is up against the cam tower and the wrenches are long enough that they bump into a support from the firewall and a wiring harness. I have been digging around for some other wrench that may work better. I have a short 14 mm and will try it next. If that does not do it, then I may be looking for a junk 14 mm to see if I can modify it some. All of the valves so far have been tight except for one. The intake on 1 was on spec at .004. The exhaust valves should be .012 but have mostly been .009. The intakes are supposed to be .004 but are too tight to read with a feeler gauge. Turning the engine over by using the nut on the end of the power steering pump worked fine after I figured out how to do it. The pump is mounted low on the driver's side of the car so there is not much room to reach in. I have a fairly long 22 mm combination wrench and it worked on the box end but not well due to the angle of the handle. I mucked about trying other wrenches like a crowfoot on a breaker bar but nothing really fit. I finally tried using the open end of the wrench and it worked fine. A bit slow as I can only move it a bit and then have to re-set the wrench but not too bad all things considered. I just did the valves in the order that they came up on the cam and not in number order so I did not turn the cam any more than necessary. I hope to do the last 3 this evening so I can put it all back together. The only disturbing part has been that something appeared to fall between the injection pump and the block. I have no idea what as I did not see what it might have been and have no idea what might be missing. I see nothing on the floor under the car and I can see nothing in between the engine and the pump. I will fish around with my magnet but since I don't know what I am looking for, I don't even know if it might be magnetic etc. Perhaps when I put it back together, there will be something obviously missing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] change of settings on the list?
All messages are coming through as from Mercedes Discussion List but also from the individual and if I just reply, without deleting the individual, then I am guessing that they get 2 copies of my response. That is different than it was last week. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] change of settings on the list?
Are we then going to get duplicates of all posts or does it get stripped out in some manner? Randy On 14/07/2014 4:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Its due to changes made yesterday to eliminate the bounces that people have been dealing with. Just hit Reply and don't worry about it, or delete the individual from the recipient list. Dan On Jul 14, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All messages are coming through as from Mercedes Discussion List but also from the individual and if I just reply, without deleting the individual, then I am guessing that they get 2 copies of my response. That is different than it was last week. Randy _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] change of settings on the list?
Ok, I only got the one but the To when I Reply shows both your email and the list email. What I have been getting all day is only one copy but shown as from the list. I have to say I like it better when it shows the name of the person as the sender. If it shows the list name, then it is difficult to find a posting after the fact. Randy On 14/07/2014 5:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Are we then going to get duplicates of all posts or does it get stripped out in some manner? Duplicates every time somebody hits the reply button on something you posted. I deleted you from the recipient list on this one, so you should only get one copy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
On 14/07/2014 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can't imaging living on 3G... I've also been told the 4s has really bad battery life. If I don't use it much my iPhone 5 will go 2 days between recharges, a friend says her 4s needs charging every 12 hours. -Curt She has a whole lot of stuff running in the background. She needs to turn most of it off. My iPhone 4 lasts for days without charging. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - a flying tale
On 14/07/2014 10:42 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Conway Twitty?? You're thinking Mel T-t-t-t-tillis, I think. -MMM- ___ Yes, I knew it was a country singer and Twitty did not seem right somehow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
On 15/07/2014 5:35 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon They just didn't want to admit it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New phone
On 15/07/2014 3:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The replacement screens on Amazon for $25 are pretty good. It took me maybe 2 hours to do the replacement. One piece of advice is to be ABSOLUTELY sure you keep the screws organized. There are several different sizes that are impossible to tell apart. I used a paper towel and wrote each size on it as I pulled them out. The tool kits you get are cheapo junk, I have a big jewelers screwdriver set and it did everything I needed. It was a simple 25 minute job that took me just over two hours too. I can take the back off and swap batteries in a minute or two, but it takes some work to get to the screen. I saw some printed magnets being sold on eBay for screw organization, I printed the image from the ad on plain paper and was careful not to disturb the table it was on when I put the screws on it. Made me wish I had a magnetic bumper sticker handy, I would have put it under the paper. Mitch. ___ Frig magnets??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all of the technology available today, that there is not something that essentially prevents the pilot from doing that. Randy On 16/07/2014 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the takeoff appeared normal initially until the aircraft began to rotate, the nose lifted up, however, nothing happened. The nose dropped again, then rose very sharply perhaps because of the runway end becoming visible. A sound of impact was heard from the back of the cabin followed by scratching sounds, that lasted for about 5 seconds, then the aircraft began to climb. During the initial climb the aircraft was shaking, the right wing dropped which the passenger, frequent traveller, perceived as unusual. The aircraft continued to climb heading north out of the Madrid area, no announcements were made...snip http://www.aeroinside.com/item/2336/aeromexico-b762-at-madrid-on-apr-16th-2013-tail-strike-on-takeoff http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta-12858.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale
Aloha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243 The plane had about 90K cycles which was 2.5 times the number it was designed for according to the article. On 16/07/2014 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: That was the Hawaiian 737? Lotsa cycles on those, updownupdownupdown... all day long. Salt air too. I guess it was a testament to the airplane that it held together. --R On 7/16/14 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Did you see the pics of the plane where the whole dang top ripped off? This damage is minor in comparison. The only person that died in that one was a stewardess that was standing up. Imagine riding back to the airport in a convertible... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all of the technology available today, that there is not something that essentially prevents the pilot from doing that. Randy On 16/07/2014 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the takeoff appeared normal initially until the aircraft began to rotate, the nose lifted up, however, nothing happened. The nose dropped again, then rose very sharply perhaps because of the runway end becoming visible. A sound of impact was heard from the back of the cabin followed by scratching sounds, that lasted for about 5 seconds, then the aircraft began to climb. During the initial climb the aircraft was shaking, the right wing dropped which the passenger, frequent traveller, perceived as unusual. The aircraft continued to climb heading north out of the Madrid area, no announcements were made...snip http://www.aeroinside.com/item/2336/aeromexico-b762-at-madrid-on-apr-16th-2013-tail-strike-on-takeoff http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/major/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta-12858.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] more on valve adjustment
I have to say that the adjustment of the valves on my poor old engine appears to have been a success. It starts easier and seems to run smoother. I should have done it long ago. Not much of a job really. Took some time but was about as easy as it gets apart from the one valve where the special wrenches did not fit well. Managed to do it with the one bent wrench on the bottom nut and a shorter normal wrench on the top nut. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420
Or for subsequent owners. Friends had an '02 E430 4Matic. Beautiful car - silver with a dark blue interior. They bought it used for more than $50K and I think, only got something like $15K out of it when they sold it a few years later. Not sure of exact dates but know it was not new when they got it and they have been out of it for a while. On 18/07/2014 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It would be fun to compare the MSRP with the current blue book prices for MBs from the mid to late 90s. IIRC the MSRP on a 199x 400E was $70,000 or thereabouts. Depreciation is spectacular, but not in a good way for original owners On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gotta be an S420 if it's a 97. There was a 400SEL, however. That's a bit cheap for a 97 with those kinds of miles. I would expect issues or cosmetic problems at that price. The W140 chassis is far better from 1997-on, so as far as the year is concerned it's a good one. I am currently looking for a 300SEL or S320 in a W140 chassis. If anyone hears of a deal like this for one I would appreciate letting me know. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420? 140,000 miles, no rust I can see on cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue. $2700.00 Runs good. Is that a fair price Thanks Mike Michael E. Esh 231 286 2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 500SEL - HELP!!
On 21/07/2014 5:02 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Maybe the hose is all buggered and is collapsing when fuel is pumped through it (here I am assuming the pump is sucking it from the tank) or has crap in it from sitting so long. The filter aspect would also be a good place to start. How hard would it be to get a mity-vac on a fuel line and see if you can pump some (sucking?) from the tank? Take along some generic fuel line, run it from the tank vicinity to the fuel pump and see if you can bypass the line? It most definitely sounds like a fuel starvation issue of some sort. I had a lawnmower do that, ended up cleaning the whole fuel system and carb to get it to run right. I wonder too if the tank has gotten rusty from sitting in a humid environment, using crap ethanol fuel, etc. and that has clogged the filter? --R (no expert on Benz vergassers) How cheap is this car? If it does not run right, offer low and buy it and haul it away before working on it. The willingness to sell it cheaply might dissolve if it appears that you know what is wrong with it. Remember that the vendor is stuck on the idea that it is a very expensive car. Sometimes one has to gamble a bit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
I used a drawing. I also used 2 sets of feeler gauges and just adjusted whatever one was next up when I turned the cam. I discovered 2 things that I hope to remember for next time. The 2nd from the last valve - (exhaust on #5 I think) required that I use a different wrench. I have the special bent wrenches and they worked fine everywhere else but that one is too close to the cam support tower and the firewall so I used the bent wrench on the bottom nut and a normal wrench on the upper one but had to mess about to find a wrench that was the right length. The other thing is that I want to find a different wrench to turn the power steering pump. I think, maybe a ratcheting boxend with a modified handle so it sticks up a bit higher. I still have bruises on both arms from my efforts to turn the cam. Randy On 22/07/2014 9:57 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I put a dab of White-out on the valve stems as I adjust them. Once all have a white dot on all of them I'm done! ;-) LarryT 91 300D 78 240D On 7/9/2014 12:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're working with the same set of gauges. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] German POWs from WWII
There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods during the war. One of the fellows who was imprisoned there went home to Germany after the war but continued to visit during the summers and owned a cottage there in his retirement until he and his wife became too old to make the trip any more. He had very fond memories of his time there during the war. He felt he was treated very well. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 115 front speakers too
Anyone know for certain how to remove the speaker in the middle of the dash on a 115? The cover is already off of it and I see 4 brass colored tabs. I assume it should pop out if I pry on the tabs but am reluctant to damage anything. I don't know if there is a speaker under there but I would like to repair or recover the grill so it looks better. I have the original cover but it is somewhat shrunken so I don't know if I could re-use it. Since I don't use the spearker, I could just cover the whole thing or, I guess I could punch some holes in the replacement cover. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 front speakers
I don't have a turbo, but I just listen to the engine. (That is because there is a hole in the dash where the radio is supposed to be.) On 22/07/2014 10:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Andrew Who listens exclusively to classical music when he drives his German machine. (Bach is das best accompaniment to the turbodiesel engine noise) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.
so, did it kill the corn near to where you poured it?? Randy On 23/07/2014 5:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Now you've reminded me, and I'm gonna hafta tell it again. ;) One day in the summer of ’47, at 13, I was driving a mule pulling an empty tobacco truck (used to haul the ripened leaves from the field to a curing/drying barn) through a field of tobacco on a “shortcut” to the field nearby where the men, including my oldest brother, were pulling (“priming”) tobacco leaves from the plants. Suddenly, the mule was startled by something between the rows of tobacco nearby. I stopped the mule and left the truck to investigate. I found several cardboard boxes filled with half-gallon jars of “moonshine” (illegal - non-tax-paid) whiskey, maybe, a total of 12 to 15 gallons. I was already aware of the misery caused by alcohol and was, as I still am, adamantly opposed to its excessive consumption. I opened every jar and poured the whiskey onto the ground. After pouring out all the whiskey, I proceeded to the adjoining field, where I excitedly and proudly told the men what I had found and what I had done with it. None of the four men showed any reaction at all. If any of them knew about the whiskey, they exercised remarkable restraint, especially, if one of them was the owner. The stash of whiskey was near a paved road. I’ve always thought that, maybe, a hauler had a problem on the road the night before and had hidden the whiskey in the field temporarily and was planning to pick it up the next night. It may also have been a delivery point that I stumbled onto before the receiver picked up the delivery. A few days later, when I went through the field again, the boxes and jars were gone. I never heard another word about it from the men and still don’t know why the whiskey was in the field. Wilton, still not bashful at all 'bout the act - in fact, right proud. ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another Prospect, or How I Alienated A Potential Seller
On 23/07/2014 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK, you twisted my arm. We learned that when the glaciers advanced during the ice age they gouged the bedrock with linear markings. These lines. still visible, indicate in which direction the glacier was moving. My hand shot up and I posed this question: When the glaciers retreated didn't they create another set of striations that could cause geologists to become confused? The professor, quick as a wink, replied Sure, if they turned around and flowed backwards. Even if they had made lines on a slow retreat as they melted, would they not have been in the same direction as their advance? I shouldn't think they would have started off in another direction to either side. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 parts
On 24/07/2014 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I am your man if you need cherry123 palomino door and rear hatch panels for a 300D/TD. I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area headliner cover for a 300D/TD. They are all offered at below market prices. For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, a front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE. Some of the coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so. Ooooh! Rariators are very rare! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison
Yes, if it all goes well, no problem to do it quickly. BUT when working with old parts that have been under there for a while and have suffered the abuse that comes with the job, they can sometimes be difficult to take apart. I suppose the shops use big impact guns and heat etc but I don't have a rattle gun that will do that sort of thing and am reluctant to use a lot of heat in some areas. I remember popping a ball joint out of the lower control arm on a 1998 Ford F150. I had all of thebig C clamp type press parts assembled on the vehicle and my longest breaker bar on it and was pulling for all I was worth with no success. I looked around my garage and found a 4 foot length of pipe and slipped that on the end and still pulled for all I was worth until it popped. I wondered if the breaker bar was going to give up but it did not. Putting the new one back in was no problem. Randy On 24/07/2014 2:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: OK, I guess one hour would be a fair time, if you had all the proper special MB tools and presses and access to whatever saw or torch or hydraulic press you might need, and all were set-up and ready to go, just carry the LCA and parts over and go to town. Sounds like a great shop, letting you bring your own parts and that labor rate is really low. Let us know how it turns out! -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Lower Control Arms and Ball joints - cost comparison
Yes, it is nice to not have the piece of broken breaker bar sticking out of a hole in your arm etc. I think the I Beam suspension is a thing of the past. My father had a '68 that had the Twin I Beam front end. Never had any issues with it thankfully as I think the only way to adjust if the tires wore poorly was to chain it down and then bend the I Beam with a jack. My father's last truck was an '81 and I think it may still have had the I Beam setup but cannot recall for sure. Not sure when it disappeared. Both my '98 and my '02 had torsion bar suspensions. My '13 has struts. Randy On 24/07/2014 4:29 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I've broken Break Bars doing similar jobs! it's a really sickening feeling when something pops and you see the breaker bar is missing it's end! BTW, Ford always likes to advertise how strong the I Beam front suspension is on their F Series trucks! Sounds like they are put together to stay together... ;-) Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Totally and utterly OT: Kitty litter as a possible cure for cancer!
On 25/07/2014 10:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: A topic never discussed enough - You, need to get a life! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT I am so angry
If you are not there and you cannot look at what he says is wrong, then you really do not know. My younger son is an automotive tech. Red Seal, licenced etc. He does good work very quickly as that is a required part of the job. I think the thing that upsets him the most is people who do not want him to do the job right. If he thinks it needs something and you don't want to have it repaired, then he would prefer not to work on it. What more can I say? Not all shops are bad. Randy On 29/07/2014 2:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The boy in DC has been driving the 98 Cad. Calls me the other day and says the brake light has come on, brakes are a bit mushy, so I tell him to take it to a shop. He does that today. They give him a quote of $703. I call and talk to the guy. $80 for rear pads (I put new ones on the front not that long ago, they are like $20 a set). $88x2 for rear rotors which may be sorta reasonable, fluid and flush for $139, and $227 for labor. Their labor rate was for 1.7hr. $48 for shop fees which includes rags and brake cleaner, a standard charge. Total BS. I guess that sorta adds up with taxes and such. Reluctantly after going over the fluid/flush number (how hard is that?) I tell them to go ahead since he needs the car and has no time to deal with this stuff and the car has not required a lot of work over the years, so whatever. So then they call him and say there is a problem with the a brake line leaking. I am thinking maybe a flex line. I call them back, the guy says a front hard line is cracked or something and is leaking, which is why the pedal was soft. I ask what that will cost, he tells me the total is now $1228. Over $500 to replace a hard line? WTF??? So I tell the guy that seems quite excessive, a line is maybe $30 and how long to replace it? $500 labor to replace a line? Then he tells me, well, you know, we have to do flairs, and those are hard to get right, then there is blahblahblah I tell him to move the car out, my son will come get it and take it somewhere else. Then he starts in, Well if you don't want quality work done that's your choice and I hang up. I am just so angry at these guys trying to screw over customers who are sorta over a barrel. The brake line thing is probably BS too but what are you gonna do? My wife had a patient who worked for a dealer as a mech, and then for an indy, he would tell her these stories about how they would find problems and jack the prices up, then do nothing to the car but charge for it. He said it was just standard behavior on all these guys he had ever run across. He finally quit and does work for people on the side, cash, and said he was making OK money and happy he was doing the right thing. So anyway I told him to go find a Sears or a Midas or something to do the brake job, how hard can that be and it won't be anywhere near $1200. I know, Midas and Sears, but Hell I could ship my tools and fly up there and still be like $800 ahead. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] On my son the mechanic
I was quite proud of him this past weekend. A family member of his new wife has a 97 GMC pickup with a diesel. It has been causing trouble and the owner has had work done on it in a couple of shops without much success. He asked my son to have a look at it. My son said it was throwing a number of codes which he thought was unusual. He started it up and let it idle and warm up and then started shaking electrical harness under the hood. When he wiggled one, the engine faltered. He shook it a bit harder and the engine shut down. I cannot recall what he said that harness controlled but something in the fuel injection I think. It was on the top of the engine on top of the intake manifold. He took the connector apart and found some pins that looked a bit wonky. Straightened them up a bit and cleaned it a bit and put it back together. It appears to be fixed. He drove t all over on Sunday and took it to and from work yesterday and says so far it has not missed a beat. An inexpensive fix if that cured it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?
Let me suggest that your statement is more theoretical than practical. On the street, you want torque. If you are a Nascar racer on the track, you want horsepower. Randy On 29/07/2014 7:34 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: OK wrote: IIRC, the V8 has more torque, which is what a truck needs. Well, no. Not really. But sort of. Nothing against you Don, but this is a very common miss-perception. So I'm not picking on you - just using your comment as motivation to respond. *smiles* Torque is rotational force. There can be torque with no movement. Unless there is movement, no work is being done. If there is torque, and movement occurs - then work is being done. With a stopwatch (or calendar?) you can measure how fast the work is being done. This is horsepower [or watts]. If you have an engine with a fixed horsepower attached to a transmission (presuming an infinite ratio and lossless - which doesn't exist) the torque can be any value at all. For high torque, it will be moving slow - but for low torque it will be moving fast. If we don't change the diameter of the tire, the torque on the axle necessary to pull a 4000 lb [1800 kg] trailer up Grapevine out of Los Angeles is fixed. So if your your 400 hp pickup and my 7 hp garden tractor have the same size tire, the torque needed is the same. The difference is speed. Your pickup will get to the top a lot faster than my tractor because the axle can turn faster because your engine has more horsepower. So far it's very clear - but then reality rears it's ugly head. Transmissions have fixed ratios and losses. Engine ratings are for _maximum_ horsepower - but the actual horsepower and torque vary depending on speed. This makes it almost impossible to actually do an apples-to-apples comparison. Nevertheless, looking at the torque value is pretty meaningless. If you look at the torque values for various engine RPM, you can get a clue as to how usable the power is. If there is little torque at low RPM, then high RPM will be needed to get useable power. This makes it feel like the driver has to work the engine harder to get the job done. So - to repeat. Just a torque value is nearly meaningless. Torque at a particular RPM is useful - but that is by definition horsepower! -- Philip ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt
On 29/07/2014 8:23 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I am thinking we should be more ecologically friendly in our munitions. Various sized gravel and stones at terminal velocity would be swift and have no lasting toxic effects. A day after the event, it is all good, twenty years on, no birth defects or cancer. On top of that, no bad PR from pix of naked girls running down the road after being napalmed. Even better, if the plane gets hit, nothing explodes prematurely, and the cost of munitions is dirt cheap clay One problem with that is that the enemy can gather them up and then throw them back at you. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
On 29/07/2014 8:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She who must be admired? Uh, did you really ask that question? So, let me see, if you were on the west coast of the USA and wanted to drive to Alaska, what countries do you think you would go through? Let me go on to suggest Canada. The 2 boarder crossings will be to leave the USA and go into Canada, and then to leave Canada and re-enter the USA. Unless she plans a significant detour and I doubt that is likely if she needs to do this in 5 days. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt
http://ottawa-rasc.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Odale-Articles-WestHawk On 30/07/2014 9:01 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There is a reason why bombs are shaped the way they are with fins on the back end - they tend to land where you aimed them better than random shaped objects. It doesn't help much if your non-toxic bombs don't hit the target. Otherwise, I like your idea I'm reminded of when the lunar colony revolted in the novel The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. They didn't have interplanetary weapons, but they had big engineless freight ships, they had a magnetic catapult that could hurl them beyond the moon's gravity, and they had lots of rock to fill them with. They could simply aim them to land on earth instead of going into harmless orbits. They announced the time and the locations of the first wave of rock-bombs. Thousands of idiots showed up to watch the impacts. The TV news idiots thought we'd been hit with nuclear weapons. Apparently they'd never heard what happens when meteors hit the earth. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Horse power vs. torque - was: OT: How is this game played exactly?
Did you look at the back seat area in the Supercrew? It is huge both with the seat down and with it folded up. Randy On 30/07/2014 3:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I chose the F150 over the Chevy based first on the space behind the seat (basic, small cab) - lots in the Ford, NONE in the Chevy, and a bit more load/towing capacity. Really, it was the space behind the seat that made the difference to us. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Which is what pleases me about the 6spd in the F150 (and some Chevys too) which gives a nice low first and a good high 6th. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nice W111 green cabriolet on ebay
No used car, no matter how nice, is worth $400K. On 31/07/2014 10:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I think they would entertain a slightly lower priced offer... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SE-3-5-Cabriolet-V8-Floor-Shift-Burl-Wood-New-Paint-Chrome-Detail-/181479128544?forcerrptr=truehash=item2a40ffbde0item=181479128544pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test 4
BUT it bu**ered it up for others. I can no longer tell who sent the message without opening it because they all say Mercedes Discussion List rather than the name of the contributor. So, much more difficult to go back to old posts to check something that I remembered like a good tip from Jim C. Randy On 01/08/2014 10:24 AM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Gmail is an ISP? I thought it was just more of their troublesome software like Google Chrome which runs down laptop batteries. http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/2014/7/21/google_chrome_bug_draining_batteries_report.htm I've had embarqmail (now Centurylink) for years and have never had this kind of problem with any other email list. Anyway, the problem with Mercedes List seems to be fixed thanks to Dan and Kleb. Gerry On 8/1/2014 10:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I am left wondering why Archer75 doesn't just get a gmail acct and stop fighting his ISP --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How screwed am I?
So what exactly is leaking? Coolant? From the block? Oil filter looks crusty? How does the oil look? How does the coolant look? Can this be something related to your recent overheating episode? Do you have the tools to pressurize the cooling system to see if it holds pressure or alternatively, where it might leak from? Randy On 05/08/2014 4:03 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I parked the SL in the driveway and when I moved it, I noticed a long wet slick. The fluid is clear and a bit slick. I thought it may be ATF and went looking for a leak in the cooler lines. I found where the drip seemed to be, right where the trans cooler line mounted to the block. I wiped it clean and dry, then removed the clip so I could cover the line with rubber fuel line and clamps. That involved removing the oil filter, which had some nasty white, lumpy coating that felt like spray adhesive. I got to feeling around the line and could not feel the suspected wear spot that rubbing would have made. I moved the line a bit more and put the rubber hose on a place close enough. Then the leak starts. It is coming from where the upper oil pan meets the block, just behind the clip for the cooler line. Well, it would be the upper pan, if the thing were not one unit with no lower pan. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT printers
Canon inkjet printer - multi ink tanks type Has been sitting for a year or more Likely to be dried up ink etc Any way to ressurect it? Or is it junk? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Radiator Question
This question is brought on by Clay's issue with his car. Does anyone know if the radiator neck on the older MB's (think 115) is anything special? I have a pump up rad tester with a couple of adapters but have no idea if any of them might fit the old 300D. The radiator cap looks to be about the same as one would have found on a vintage Chevy etc but it probably is not. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill
I won't go into the detail that Wilton has but he made me recall our trials and tribulations with a white hill. We lived in a spot where one had to climb a fairly decent hill in order to drive out to the highway. It was fine in summer but come winter, it was a bit of a beast to climb. If the snow was deep it was trouble and if the snow was hard packed from travel it was also trouble as it would be slippery. We would have to back up to the top of the other hill on the south end of the roadway (think down rather than up with it - if one was coming to us and by on the way to the highway, one would climb a long hill and then cross a short fairly level bit on the way by our yard on the way to the next hill going up some more) and make a run at the hill on the north side. Often we would have to back down and try again. We were always concerned that there would be another vehicle coming the other way on either or both of the hills and they too would be trying to make it up so maybe not going all that fast but reluctant to brake to avoid us. Tires were not as good then as now and rear wheel drive was generally not as good as many of the front drive cars today in snow. My father never had a 4 wheel drive until near the end of his life and then it was not a daily driver but a 2 ton Dodge Power Wagon with dual wheels on the back. The rest of the road into our place was not so great either. It has been much improved during my lifetime but I remember it being not much more than a trail through the bush when I was a child. It has been straightened and flattened quite a bit and is now hard as it is an oiled surface. When I was young, I would have to get off and push my bike up the hills as I could not ride up them. I might have if I had a bike with more gears like today but I only had a basic bike with the coaster brakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill
On 07/08/2014 10:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: It was our winter plow vehicle, and was reasonably safe to drive with a snow plow mounted that you could drop and use as an anchor when you needed to stop. Back in high school, I had a friend who built a go cart. I don't recall all of the details but basically it had a chain saw engine and rack and pinion steering that had been scavenged from some source. There was a junior high school just up the hill from his home and the yard was paved all of the way around the school so they would go up there and take turns roaring around the school and timing the runs to see who was the fastest. They had not managed to scavenge anything that would serve as brakes so ... They tied a boat anchor onto a length of rope and would throw that out and hope it caught on something sturdy enough to bring the vehicle to a stop. I never got the chance to try it out as I lived out of town and had to climb onto my school bus to head home after school but I did enjoy the stories about it all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - more white hills
My wife and I lived in a small cottage that belonged to my parents for the first 2 years that we were married. It was a lovely spot overlooking Lake of the Woods and I wish we still owned it. I encouraged my mother to sell it after my father passed away and now I wonder why I did that. In any event, there was a hill that one had to climb to get into our yard. It climbed maybe 30 feet in maybe 200 feet. It was ok in the summer. It was a bit of a minimal road when we started living there but I got some gravel hauled in and we widened it a bit and filled the holes and flattened the ridges a bit. Winter was a bit of a different story. The turn at the bottom of the hill off of the more main road was a ninety degree angle and it was not possible to carry much speed into the turn without ending up in the snow bank on the left side of the road. My primary daily driver, work truck, was a 1967 Chevy short box two wheel drive pickup truck with a 250 cid inline 6 and a 3 speed manual tranny with column shifter. No synchro into low gear. It did not have the ability to turn the corner and start up the hill in 2nd so I would have to shift down into low on the turn and double clutch to do so. I won't claim I was ever very good at doing so. We spent 2 winters there. One of them was not a problem as my father had a small dozer that was not being used elsewhere and I had it there all winter. I could plow down to the gravel if I wanted to and I could drag a vehicle up the hill on a chain behind the dozer if I needed to. The other winter was a bit of a pain. I can recall coming home more than once in the dark and having to leave a vehicle on the hill part way up because I could not get all the way up to the yard. That always left us wondering if the vehicle would start in the morning as we then could not plug in the block heater. I can also recall my young wife and I out there shovelling off the whole hill and part of the yard. We must have been tougher then than we are now. About the time that we lived there, from August of 1973 through to September of 1975, was the time that fuel prices went way up and there were shortages and line ups in the USA. I swapped my 68 Cougar for a 74 Chevy Vega. Not the best choice in retrospect but I had a better experience with the Vega than many folks did. The Vega had about 2 inches of ground clearance so it was not really built to travel in much snow. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
Or, maybe take it to someone who does that sort of work. I suspect that it is a bit of an art and that an experienced plastic welder might do a whole lot better than an amateur. Randy On 08/08/2014 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It may work but I do not think it would be worth the expense if you end up having to replace it anyway. I would try to find a used one that matches, in my case I have several laying around. On 8/8/2014 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Fair enough. I thought you were being a smart alek. Point well taken. With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers. Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting it to match the car? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8004 - Release Date: 08/08/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - storing small parts
I believe that Lee Valley has small stainless steel canisters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
A friend's wife bought one of the little Ford hybrids. Cannot recall the exact name. He says it does amazing on fuel if one tries. His wife has a bit of a heavy foot and does not do as well in day to day driving as he does if he takes it somewhere and tries to get good mileage. Maybe not quite so green as the Leaf, but more practical with the gasoline engine as backup or whatever if one needs to go beyond the charge distance. Randy On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 11/08/2014 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. I know you old bastards all hate anything new and different but you need to go out and try one. Yes its small but the seating area is about the same as my Jetta. No its not tinny or cheap feeling. Yes its VERY quiet. Its not slow, about the same as my Jetta. 100 mile rated range, the kid at the dealership has one and says 80 is more likely. I enjoyed watching the range meter count up while coasting. We went 6 miles on 3 miles of capacity. If I could get my employer to put in a charging station I'd seriously consider one... -Curt ___ IF, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 11/08/2014 6:21 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes wrote: On Aug 11, 2014 2:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think there was also a state rebate of some sort that was a matter of controversy, in addition to the fed rebate. My manager just leased a Leaf for $278/month, with a $2000 down payment (paid in trade). He is very happy with it. No extra rebates in NC, that's the actual price. My wife just got a Ford CMax with a plug, but we have nowhere to plug it in. She occasionally can charge at work. The car is nice - I drove it ten hours over the weekend, average 42.2 mpg - and while it's not Benz comfortable it is a lot better than the van. The front and rear sensors are good, acceleration and breaking are right, seats and moon roof are pleasant. The nav computer is terrible: Microsoft Sync is unusable, the navigation is flaky, the terrestrial radio doesn't work reliably, satellite radio goes in and out all the time. I connected my phone over Bluetooth (that part works) and I was able to ignore the rest of the deficiencies: classic problem of great hardware, lousy software. I have no idea how much she is paying on the car, but probably a lot more than the Leaf, which is similarly appointed. Best, Tim ___ 42 mpg does not sound all that marvelous. Curt is doing better with his Jetta. And we all know that old 240D's are routinely advertised to do at least 40 mpg. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 11/08/2014 6:40 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. Randy wrote: If, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load. Maybe. But if the recharge is set to occur over-night, that is when the power plants would like a bit more load to even out the demand compared to daytime use. -- Philip ___ But, you will all have to shut down the AC at night. You won't like that. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Let us hope, that over time, solar and wind generation becomes a whole lot cheaper. So far, it makes very little sense so far as I can see. One has to consider it pretty much experimental. Manitoba Hydro invested in wind farms but the cost of production is silly compared to the hydro elecrtric generation. Randy On 11/08/2014 7:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its not like everybody could run out and buy a new car tomorrow anyway. As load ramps up our electric utilities will be forced to add line capacity. Around here theres a LOT of solar coming in which will reduce the load on the heavy wire grid by making neighborhoods more self sufficient. Within a block of my house I bet theres 2-3 killowatts of solar. Within 10 miles of where I sit theres 4.5 megawatts of windpower. During the day you produce solar which powers Northfield mountain to pump water from the Connecticut river up into a huge lake where the took the top off the mountain. At night the water flows back down and makes electricity. Essentially a huge battery... -Curt From: Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege Curt Raymond wrote: At the Nissan dealership to drive pickups yesterday I talked him into letting us drive the Nissan Leaf electric car. Randy wrote: If, all of you folks down south of the border were to get electric vehicles, your electric grid would not be able to handle the load. Maybe. But if the recharge is set to occur over-night, that is when the power plants would like a bit more load to even out the demand compared to daytime use. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 12/08/2014 6:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: That's fine on paper - but the EPA is making it really difficult to get _any_ new generators built. Around here they have been trying to add base-load capacity but either can't or can't-because-it's-to-expensive. And that's why many utilities will pay you money to get an Energy Star refrigerator. What struck me as funny 20 years ago was that Consumers here in Michigan was implementing conservation programs (they weren't yet desperate enough to pay you to conserve) and Illinois Power was mailing out 8w night lights to all their customers. Consumers was trying to avoid summer brownouts from undercapacity, IP was trying to increase base load so they could generate more of their power at their base load cost. Mitch. ___ Sadly, the new energy efficient refrigerator is likely not much better than junk. We have a beer fridge in the basement ( in a lovely avocado green color )that is chugging away 41 years after we acquired it. It has a couple of issues but still keeps things nice and cold. The main refrigerator in the kitchen has been replaced 3 or 4 times and the current one will likely give up before the old one does. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Good thing that you did the timing belt. My son's shop has a Golf TDI in right now for work. The owner blew the belt and damaged the engine which of course is an interference engine. They pulled the engine and sent it out for work. Now it is back and back in the car and they have not been able to get it to run. My son is not working on it. One of the other fellows is. My son says it has compression until the oil pressure comes up and then it loses compression. They suspect that it does not have the right lifters in it and that when the oil pressure pumps up, the lifters are holding valves open. If so, a problem created by the engine builders but downloaded onto the poor mechanics who re-installed it and are now trying to diagnose what is wrong. Randy On 12/08/2014 11:38 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I bet I don't have more than $2500 in it, $300 is tires and another $400 for timing belt/water pump which is just maintenance... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: 42 mpg does not sound all that marvelous. Curt is doing better with his Jetta. And Curt didn't put $2000 down when he bought the Jetta, although I think he has more than $2k in it now. At the very least, when mentioning lease payments you need to amortize the upfront cost. $278/mo for 36 months plus $2k up front is really $334 a month. On a 24 month lease it's $361. If you total the car during the first month, it's only $2278 per month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Trigger points WTB
what happened with the oil/coolant leak?? Randy On 12/08/2014 3:05 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Went to the Show and Shine this past weekend and the consensus was that I need a newer trigger point to get the 450SL running better. I know it is a long shot, but anybody have a spare they can part with that will fit a 1974 SL born 12/73? Not the ones from a 108 or earliest 107, the one that came with the 116 and later 107 clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 12/08/2014 3:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I'd like to see nuclear construction get started again LarryT Yeah, with some cut price offshore contractors and maybe that cement from China that they used in that bridge on the west coast. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Well, one can hope, but my fear is that we get the Chinese concrete, so that some MBA business character can cut costs and award himself a big bonus at year end. Randy On 12/08/2014 5:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: No Randy, more like the French model, using a proven standardized design capable of efficiently and safely providing decades of power. If we also followed their example and re-processed our fuel rods, the radioactive waste left after 20 years of generating power for a family of four would fit in a coke can. Here's the best part: no CO2!!! Compared to coal, which not only releases tons of CO2 into the air, but also TONS of radioactive uranium and thorium, nuclear power is the only viable answer for those truly concerned about the environment. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 12, 2014 4:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 12/08/2014 3:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: I'd like to see nuclear construction get started again LarryT Yeah, with some cut price offshore contractors and maybe that cement from China that they used in that bridge on the west coast. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On 13/08/2014 2:00 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: Oooh, Hendrik who would be happy enough to drive an electric car, no more oil changes But, then how would we manage to have oil threads? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
On 13/08/2014 5:04 PM, curtludwig--- via Mercedes wrote: I've heated my house without the grid before. In the fall I go out in the morning and pick up a bundle of sticks to make a fire. It cleans up the forest, gets me a little exercise and heats the house for no money. Curt Well, depending on just how cold it is and how deep the snow is, it takes a bit of planning to heat with wood. It takes a fair amount of effort to do it well and there are those who would say that wood smoke is a pollutant too. My parents heated with wood for many years. I cannot say, in retrospect, that they did it well but they did it. The house should have been better insulated and the stove should have been more centralized. It should also have been a better stove. Some sort of Rumford (???) type thing with lots of masonry to soak up the heat might have been a good idea. The wood should have been better prepared so it was drier and it they should have had a shed of some sort to store it in. It can be done but it is a whole lot easier and cleaner to use a natural gas furnace if you live where the gas is available. Wood is not cheap either if you buy it. My mother was still using wood after my father passed away and she would buy a semi trailer load of birch in 8 foot lengths. She and an old fellow who was willing to help her out would cut it into stove lengths and then put it through the splitter and pile it. I think she was paying over $700 for a trailer load more than 20 years ago. If you haul in your own wood, then you need time and equipment to do it and you either need acreage or you need to be able to buy it or you need friends with acreage who are willing to have you remove trees etc. My father had a sawmill and logged pretty much every winter so he just cut some firewood as well, but mostly he did it as we needed it so it was not usually very dry. We also had slabs from the mill but they tended to burn too fast. In order to have a fire last over night one needs the right type and size of wood for the stove. At one point they were using a stove my father made out of a 45 gallon drum. We still have the big hydraulic wood splitter that he built. It is not really a thing of beauty but it sure will split wood. I can remember a lot of wood being split with an axe however. And it pretty will all got cut with a chain saw so again, a lot of work. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
How much power is required to recharge the Leaf? I wonder if enough photocells could be put into the windows to recharge enough to get the vehicle home and not have to call for a tow. Might be expensive and cumbersome and most people would not want to put up with that. Randy On 13/08/2014 7:18 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes wrote: According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf stop go really eats into the range, probably to do with using climate control and the physics of getting a stationary object moving. Not sure if the trailer idea would be suitable for everyone, some people are not comfortable towing a trailer, however the concept is good insofar that if you build a proper camping trailer with fridge and 240v power and hook it up to a EV 4x4. Yes the lack of oil threads will be a problem but would they not still use grease in some bearings, M1 grease? Perhaps we'll have to have battery threads? Hendrik who is controlled with electricity On 14/08/14 05:00, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: That might give her the extra charge she would need to get home. IIRC one of their problems was that Nissan advertised a range of 100 miles, but under normal conditions it only gets 70 miles. That made it close, but they could still make the round trip in bus lanes. Gerry On 8/13/2014 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Depending on how much extra capacity she needs a small generator might make sense. I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that will run 8 hours at 50% load with 1 gallon of gas. It wouldn't make a huge difference but if she only needed a little more... Sounds like her commute was iffy for the car and they're running the AC hard. Stop and go traffic shouldn't hurt the range of an EV anywhere near what it does to a gas car. -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
I do not recall the name of the run, but there is or at least was, a sort of a race between cars built by various universities and colleges. I went to one of their stops a few years back and looked at some of the solar powered vehicles. My recollection is that there was a significant difference between some of the solar cells. Some were much more capable of producing power than others. These car bodies were covered from end to end with solar cells. The cars were of course, minimal and had very slippery shapes as well. Randy On 14/08/2014 10:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: How much power is required to recharge the Leaf? 12Ax120Vx20Hours if it's dead and you're using the 'trickle charger'. 3.3kWx8hours at 240v. I wonder if enough photocells could be put into the windows to recharge enough to get the vehicle home and not have to call for a tow. Might be expensive and cumbersome and most people would not want to put up with that. One rated kW of solar cells might put out 3 kWh through the workday, which should add 10-20 miles. The problem is, 200w panels are big, and there would be five of them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilegious talk about white man magic
On 14/08/2014 4:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Aren't you the one that said you only commuted a mile or two a day? Most people only commute something like 10 miles round trip daily which makes the Leaf PERFECT for them. None of the downsides of a gas car, heat comes on faster (its electric) no worry about accelerated wear due to the engine never getting up to operating temp, reduced maintenance costs. How often do you really need to drive a long distance? Zip car would be a perfect compliment, especially for city dwellers. -Curt Yes, we have been down this road before justifying my truck etc. The same old problem rears its ugly head. I do not have enough parking spots to park any more more vehicles and I don't think paying another $1K a year to nsure another vehicle plus additional upkeep really makes it worth it for me to have a vehicle purely for my short commute between office and home. It may be hard on it but I have been using my 300D most every day this summer for the short trips around town. If I am going to keep it, then it needs to be used too. The truck goes to the lake a couple of times each month over the summer and to North Dakota about once each month and apart from that, essentially sits waiting for winter when the car will be stored and the snow will justify 4 WD. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have some more vehicles but a Leaf would not be high on the list. I would like a newer Mercedes but don't need one. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle
On 14/08/2014 4:20 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: For the aviators on this list: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=315265691983609 Wow Good thing that front landing gear strut was strong and the tires held up or it might have become messy. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5
On 14/08/2014 10:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Yup, the 3.5L is the stroker version -- stroke is shorter than the bore is wide. Turns 6200 rpm, believe it or not, and produces prodigious horsepower at high rpm. Sort of a dog from standstill, though, that's why Benz switched to the 4.5L in later years -- more grunt off the line. Vastly better car to drive than a '68 anything made in the USA. Peter ___ I am not so sure about that last statement. America was building some nice cars in 68. Mustang, Camaro, etc. Good power and reasonable handling. Before they went all bloated and the emission stuff made then a mess. I had a 68 Cougar with a 289 that was quite a nice little car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fridge update
On 18/08/2014 12:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You might remember a couple weeks ago when I was working on my fridge that wouldn't defrost. Well I'm sitting in the living room and I just heard the gentle rain of water into the drain pan. The dammed thing just defrosted! So theory: The timer was stuck. In my troubleshooting I cranked it around a couple cycles. At first it didn't want to come back on after I'd cranked it around but eventually it played right. I didn't think much of it at the time but I'll keep in watch mode now, if it plays up again I'll crank the timer a couple more times. If that works I'll replace it. -Curt ___ Enjoy your relative youth and your good hearing. I would never hear the refrigerator defrosting. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] headlight brightness, 123 126
And that is really the problem isn't it? There is so much traffic anymore that I am stuck on low beam most of the time and most low beam lamps don't light enough ground for me at highway speeds - especially as I get older and my vision deteriorates. Randy On 18/08/2014 3:52 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes wrote: yep; the difference between DOT and real headlamps is like that. as popular as Hellas are, i specifically didn't mention Hellas because in the cars where my family of lighting geeks has compared Hellas side-by-side with Cibiés, we've found that when they're aimed properly (so that the high beam points out to the horizon), the low beam pattern for the Hellas was shorter than the Cibiés. considering that most of us do 90% of our driving on the low beams, that's pretty significant. cheers! e On 18/Aug/14 12:20, WILTON wrote: I put 7 in. Hellas on my 81 300D 'bout 12 years ago. The first time I turned them on at night, I threw so much light out front that I thought I felt some thrust (deceleration) to the rear. Wilton - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] headlight brightness, 123 126 toss the stock lamps, not just the bulbs. get a set of H4 Cibié lamps and some decent bulbs like the Sylvania/Osrams, or high-efficacy Narvas; they'll mount in the same place as the stuff that came stock. having the right light in front of a car isn't just about wattage; it's about having a lens and reflector in the lamp that put the light in the right place (and don't interfere with oncoming traffic). lamps in most other parts of the world did a much better job of this than what the US DOT stuck us with. cheers! e On 17/Aug/14 11:35, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: I have a '84 300CD and a '87 300SDL and both vehicles' lights are not bright enough for night driving especially on back roads. I have tried upgrading the bulbs for brighter ones, but nothing yet is satisfactory. Any suggestions for making these safer? Thanks. Ralph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
On 16/08/2014 9:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I was chatting with a Canadian guy on one of the other forums I frequent about (aboot?) car insurance. Is it significantly different in Canada compared to the States, or are you familiar with our car insurance system here? Just curious Dan ___ In Manitoba, we have Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation - MPIC or Autopac. A government run monopoly on car insurance. It is no fault so you cannot sue for injuries. They have a chart of some sort so if you lose your hand in an accident, they pay you the same whether you were a car sales man or a surgeon. It started out cheaper than private insurance companies. No idea if it still is. In Winnipeg we pay from about $1200 to $1400 each for my truck, my wife's 07 Accord and the old 300D. It gets switched to storage insurance between Nov 1 and whenever the roads get cleaned up in the spring so I don't pay the full bore on it. That is with a pretty good driving record. They are all registered to my wife. She wrecked the Toyota Avalon a few years back but apart from that, no driving issues so she has a full load of merit points. My elder son moved to Ottawa, Ontario and pays about the same there as he did here for a Mazda 3. Cannot recall what year - must be a 2011 or 2012. That is Ottawa however and I am told if he were in Toronto, he would likely pay about 3 times as much. Here in Manitoba, the rates are lower if you don't live in Winnipeg but only if you don't commute into Winnipeg daily. Ontario has private insurance and a modified no fault system. You can sue for big injuries but not for the small stuff. Saskatchewan has SGI so very similar to our MPIC and BC has BCIC again like MPIC. Alberta remains private insurance. Not sure about Quebec. I think they were first in Canada to have no fault but I don't know as though they have state run monopoly insurance. No real idea what goes on in the Maritimes. Back when we used to sue for damages on auto accident claims, we had to include a claim for medical costs. The state run insurance company would reimburse the state run hospital for costs of treatment in auto accidents so I don't know as though our tax funded medical system made our car insurance any cheaper. Our medical costs were no so high as you generally hear about medical costs in the USA so it may have helped in that regard. How is that for a general answer to your question? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Corvette will record every move a valet driver makes
On 19/08/2014 2:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Have you felt apprehension about handing over your car keys to a valet? You will now appreciate the peace of mind of knowing exactly what happened while you baby was out of sight. http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-corvette-records-valet-driver-20140819-story.html Craig ___ Does it also provide evidence for the police to use against you if they give you a ticket for trying to use some of the offered performance? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q
Tiger Torch! Randy On 20/08/2014 11:19 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'm such a junior league redneck its not even funny. I have been looking for an excuse to buy an oxy/acetylene torch outfit. I think a rosebud tip would be the solution for this... -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q It's confirmed. Curt is our resident redneck!!;) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is completely un-redneck. Redneck would be to heat it with a torch. -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q Now don't get all redneck on us now! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Dimitri and I are thinking of bringing the Rhode Island version of chowder. More later, as we have work out the logistics. I’ll be coming from NYC……he’ll be coming from Maine. How many watts does a Crock Pot draw? Can you power one from a lighter socket inverter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT recycled dog food dispenser
What about the street people? Do they get their own machine or do they have to eat dog food?? Randy On 21/08/2014 1:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Thanks for sharing. How creative! I wonder if cities without strays will bus them in to utilize all that free food. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.spiegel.de/international/turkish-stray- dog-feeding-machine-a-model-for-social-design-a-986392. html#ref=nl-international Hendrik who gets 10c per drink container ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] B-52 question for WILTON
On 22/08/2014 10:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: So you're not like Canadians? You know, everybody knows each other, eh? grin Dan it's late and I'm getting punchy Hey, it is much easier for us. There are not as many of us as there are of you folks south of the border. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars available
How far are you moving? Given the time and effort you have already put into these things, does it not make some sense for you to get them moved? Randy On 27/08/2014 11:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Then I will crush them Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Cars are too junky to sell. If you can't list them you wont sell them. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars available
Don't forget free shipping! On 27/08/2014 11:10 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am still working on this farm deal and need to raise some more cash for the move. I am fixing to crush about 10 cars unless somebody needs them. Some of them have good engines, tons of good parts but I will not have time to pull parts so crushed they will be. I have 3 4 speed manny cars I will crush that would be the perfect thing needed to convert a car to manny. Let me translate that into Craigslist for you: Several cars for sale. Many good parts, or fix and flip for on a tiny investment. Breaks like new! Great air, have to see it to believe it! $3000 each, as is where is, no lowballers. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars available
How about bring a trailer, and help me haul them over to the new property, and we will do an OkieQ at the same time? Randy On 27/08/2014 3:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: You need to hold a B.A.T. (bring a trailer) sale - any car you want for the crusher value --- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: '84 300CD Auto Transmission leaking
I would expect the majority of folks on this forum to suggest: 1.Do not get it flushed. 2.Change the filter and fluid and use M1 ATF. 3.With any luck at all the M1 will improve the quality of the seals and it won't leak. On 28/08/2014 2:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:37 AM Subject: '84 300CD Auto Transmission leaking To: merce...@mercedesmailinglist.com I am planning on flushing and replacing the ATF and filter on my 300CD and was wondering if changing the leaking seal(s) at the same time would be a good thing to do. Is this a complicated exercise and should only be done by a transmission specialist, or could it be done by the same mechanic doing the flushing, etc. I have noticed the trans. shifting roughly lately and figured an ATF change and flush would correct this, and the trans. has leaked slightly for a long time and that would be good to fix at the same time. Thanks. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S500 interior upgrade
Miles on a tank of fuel??? On 29/08/2014 2:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: 250? 400? Would you mean 25 and 40, possibly? Confused Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:55 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Mileage is not great. Running a 4.3liter V8. I get 250 in all town driving, and around 400 or so all highway clay On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I wasn't that interested in a V12. I was thinking more along the lines of an S500 for the wife. Stuff like the heated/cooled seats would be a big draw for her. Me, I don't really care for the froo-froo stuff. Jaime says the telematics on these are poor, and highly integrated to the point where if one part breaks the whole system is kaput. Not good. What kind of mileage do you get out of yours! I'm assuming it's a V8? As for the transmission wicking problem, he's referring to an issue the 722.6 and later transmissions have where a seal or O-ring on the electrical connector leaks, and capillary action allows the ATF to wick up the harness and into the a transmission ECU. It can be fixed in about five minutes with a $12 part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:43 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: They are not as robustly built or appointed as the W140. A very korean car feel to them. I put 10k on mine. They have the 96-05 transmission wicking problems. Door and trunk assist have failed. There are error codes that lie about what is really going on. My signals really do work, but the computer does not believe it. Bound to get more wrong codes. My opinion would be to stay away from any V12. The engines will bankrupt you. The standard options in that car will tend to fail, expensively, and unless you can fix on your own, or drive it busted, will suck on the wallet. Owning a Grosser will be more fulfilling clay On Aug 26, 2014, at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I am really intrigued by the W220 cars after looking at a 2001 S600 a couple of weeks ago. My biggest concern is that they are frighteningly inexpensive, which, like the earlier W140 S600 models, makes me fear that they're unreliable and expensive to repair. Anyone here have any experience with the W220 chassis cars? Dan On Aug 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-s-class-more-luxurious-than-1626571145/1626623484/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
On 01/09/2014 10:40 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to a 1500 EcoDiesel. Went did did my shopping. when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck. He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road with it. He was well pleased with the performance and the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser. His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat. But it sure would be nice to be able to afford to swap it about the time that the warranty expired. Repairing vehicles these days tends to be pretty expensive and diesel just seems to makes it worse. These might turn out to be very good engines or they might not. Only time will tell. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale
On 02/09/2014 4:35 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: vintage precision scale i.e. max 200g 0.1g accuracy made in usa for me? - measure ground coffee but i bet the market sells these for contraband. i read that some designs have caps that fail? are there other failure modes? does anyone use vintage scale to recommend? anyone want to sell decent scale/balance? i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$. thanks. mao ___ I should think it should be fairly simple to make a balance scale. I recall seeing one on a blog about building a boat that the fellow used to get the right amounts of resin and hardener for epoxy. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
The computer setup in my F150 seems to be pretty able to calculate fuel usage. I filled it this week and it said I used 74 liters and that is what I pumped in. Sometimes it will be off a liter or two but that may depend on how much I fill it etc so I am reasonably impressed with its ability to determine mileage. It shows me 12.2 l per 100 k so that works out to almost 23 mpg on the imp gallon which is better than my previous truck did most of the time but still not wonderful. Of course, that was on a trip from here to the lake where part of the run is reasonably flat and fast - 80 mph for 80 miles and then a more hilly and curvy part for 80 miles or more X2 as we also came back, plus some running around out at the lake, launching and retrieving the boat etc. Not really heavily loaded but 3 grown men and luggage etc so not empty either. And it rained part of the way back so not the most opportune for mileage. RB On 05/09/2014 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Did you really get 49mpg or did the instant read tell you 49mpg? I think you'll find in only highway driving the mileage will go down significantly. Go test drive a Passat, or rent one. I had one last week in LA, great car. The only thing I dislike is the DSG (dual sport(?) gearbox) which a manual transmission posing as an auto. I just don't like the feeling of the shifts. I'm sure most people don't even notice. Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 12:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Testing Prius Rented a Prius for 24 hours yesterday since I'd never driven one. Handling was very good, engine very quiet, 49 mpg for mixed road and city driving. Instrumentation and controls were straightforward and visibility was remarkable; rear view mirrors were surprisingly effective. Combined with its excellent repair record during the first 8 or 10 years, it would be a good investment. That said, I wouldn't buy one for one principal reason: It rides rough and there seems to be little cushioning by the seat; you feel every bump. My old Beetles rode better. A Mercedes seat would help but that might be difficult or impossible to install. My reasons for buying a new or late model car are exceptional fuel economy and reliability on long trips; something the Prius would satisfy; but being pounded on rough roads for hours at a time would be unpleasant and tiring. Gerry..who might just drive his old Mercedes on long trips ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Saw one along the road the other day with the hood up. Don't think I want one. Have had 3 Toyotas over time and cannot say any of them left a lasting good impression. Not anxious to do that again. A new Honda Civic is probably a better deal than a Prius and an Accord an even better answer. I like the photos of Dan's new MB but I don't know that I want one with mileage that high. I like the MB with the oval headlights - about a 97 E300? However, at that age, most will also have high miles. I might be dreaming but I doubt my 76 300D has gone around more than once. I know some of its history and it would appear that it has spent a lot of time not being used much. For my own example, I have driven it about 13 or 14K miles since July of 2005 when I bought it. That works out to an average of about 1500 miles per year. I have told this story before but it goes like this: An MD bought it new in Winnipeg from the dealer and kept it a long while. I don't have his name but I have some of the original documentation showing trips to the dealer for oil changes etc up to about 80K miles or so. I am assuming he drove it in the winter when it was new but got to where he did not but I could be mistaken on that. Someone likely did try to use it in the winter as the spare tire is a winter radial. His barber lived in a condo or apartment with underground parking and the MD started parking it at the barber's place for the winter. The barber ultimately bought it and he kept it a long while. The fellow I bought it from acquired it from the barber and had it re-painted. He did not use it much as he lived in a condo and had no parking for it at home. He kept it at his shop and drove it occasionally in summer. I got it in July 2005 at which time it showed 990 miles on the odometer. I have had to do nothing to it since I got it apart from changing oil annually and having the front seats re-padded. So, it is impossible really to tell, but I really wonder if it is only 115K miles or if it has more. I don't have any experience with high mileage MB's so nothing to compare it to but it certainly seems tight. My experience with most other brands of vehicles at higher mileage is that it usually feels somewhat worn. How is that for going off on a tangent? RB On 05/09/2014 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Yes, finally did re-adjust the valves. I think it starts faster. Someone suggested I should drive it some and then re-set again. Will likely wait until spring but will do that too. Not really a hard thing to do. Would like to find a ratcheting box end that fits the power steering pulley nut and add a bit on it so I could crank it over without sticking my arm down in by the rad as that was a bit of a pain. Apart from that, just need to remember which wrenches I used to do the one valve where the special wrenches did not fit well. Will see how it starts when it gets a bit colder. That was the starting issue as it got unhappy when the temperatures dropped off. RB On 05/09/2014 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You did finally set the valves on the 300D didn't you? Hows that working out? I seem to remember the car was getting a little harder to start. Anybody interested in a Prius should watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7DFzl6ZU5k Actually anybody interested in old cars should be watching the Roadkill series period... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Nice looking truck. I would have cheerfully bought another used truck too but I did not want to spend a lot of time looking. They do exist but the hunting can be discouraging. A neighbor bought a decent looking F150 shortly after I got my 2013. I do not recall the year or the mileage but he paid $12K and I would have been prepared to pay that for it. Unless I have bad luck and it gets wrecked, I will probably have my 2013 for a very long time. I don't put huge miles on and I am fairly easy on a vehicle in my opinion so I am not likely to wear it out fast so buying a new one is not the worst idea I have ever had. My 02 had 90K miles on it when I bought it and now has 180K and is going strong. I gave it to my younger son and he has repaired a couple of things but so far nothing really major. There was an exhaust leak that was fixed with nothing more than new gaskets and studs. He has done a bit of work on the suspension and brakes but just normal wear items. It has a bit of rust in the rocker panels and the seats are worn a bit but it still looks good and runs and rides well. He is going to put new shocks on it. I never did and cannot say if the one's on it are original or not. RB On 05/09/2014 1:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
I am also told that one can often improve a a cheap airgun with fairly basic work. I do not recall enough detail to give specifics but I also follow a metal working forum and some of the fellows over there were talking about the improvements that can be made without much effort. I want one too but the better ones require that I get a different firearms licence. I would have to go and take a weekend course in order to qualify. I have a possession licence that permits me to keep the guns I have but not to acquire more without the upgrade to the licence. I could get my son to buy it as he has the licence I guess. A left over remnant from the gun control laws of a few years back that required us all to register our guns. a bit wierd as some of mine were old enough to not have serial numbers etc so they sent me stickers that I was supposed to apply to them. They would not have lasted long if one used the gun at all outdoors. RB On 05/09/2014 1:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't know what losoe means, Google doesn't either. I presume you took a look through my Photobucket and found this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_121229180_zpsv4gdcnkq.jpg Its a Chinese made B3 airgun. My dad gave it to me as I was under-impressed with my Crossman 10 pump for dispatching garden pests. Its an interesting little gun, build just as cheap as you could possibly make one. Purportedly the stocks are cut from leftover pallets. Thats possibly true but mine looks better than that, at least there are no nail holes that have been filled with putty. I need to order a new rear sight, it shoots low and can't come up any farther as the adjustment screw is too short. I'll try shimming it also but the adjustment screw wasn't cut square so its a poor thing at best. Even with the bad sight its surprisingly accurate for an airgun Dad paid $16 for. http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_081842446_HDR_zpspuxfd79t.jpg You can see on the left where I was walking it up to the target, on the right although its low is a pretty good group. Not bad for a sitting position with a cheap gun anyway. With careful aim it'd kill a squirrel as is. I had been contemplating something in the $200 range and might still go there, airguns are fun, inexpensive, cheap to shoot and nobody complains if I shoot right in my backyard... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
On 05/09/2014 1:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: BTW I have to remember I can't make fun of our Super Crew anymore now that I'm a member of the fullsize truck club :) -Curt In my humble opinion, the 4 door truck is the best thing since sliced bread. I added a hard folding tonneau cover so now I can haul stuff in the box without worrying about rain. The stuff is also out of sight and reasonably secure with the tailgate locked so it is easier to stop for food etc. It is essentially a big comfortable sedan with an abilty to haul up to 6 people and all of their luggage and pull god only knows what behind if you need to do that too. My son brought his friend Brian with him to fish this last weekend. Tom is 6'3 and Brian is 6'5. Brian sat in the back seat and was truly amazed at the leg room available to him. The way that the back seats fold now is great too. If I fold the seats up I have a huge floor area to load whatever will fit. My 02 folded differently in that the seat back folded down so there was a reasonably flat area to pile stuff but it was not nearly so tall or flat. The only thing I miss about that setup is that there were compartments in the back of the cab behind the seat that were useful to store things. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
On 05/09/2014 2:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: You have to have a license to have an AIRGUN? Thats a police state... I've read several articles on how to improve the B3, most of it is just cleaning up poor workmanship, it was definitely made to a price point. The marketing says it'll shoot 800 fps, most people say 450 fps is more like it but with tuning 600 is not uncommon. A $200 Ruger will do more like 1000. The worst thing is that the spring doesn't have any oil on it so it smacks around unpleasantly when you shoot. I'd hate to put a scope on it since the recoil (which isn't the right word, because of the spring it recoils forward) would kill it in pretty short order. The gun I'd like to upgrade to is an air piston model which would be much easier on a scope. That said at 20-30 yards a scope isn't really required. I've got one on my Crossman and it only served to point out that the gun isn't as accurate as the iron (well plastic) sights are and it didn't get more accurate with a scope. -Curt Only if it has a muzzle velocity over 1200 fps or something like that. The good ones do. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Because, if it is slippery, and one wheel starts to spin, then the likelyhood of moving forward is much reduced. The back would stop pushing and one would be relying solely on traction in the front. With a locker in the back, if the one wheel starts to spin, then the other one keeps trying to move the truck forward. The old joke about 4 wheel drive is that vehicles with it are just stuck a bit further in. If it is slippery or the snow is deep etc, then you need all the help you can get. My 02 F150 had a limited slip axle that would grab automatically if one wheel slipped. My 13 F150 has a different style that I can turn on by pulling out the knob that controls the transfer case. It is not all that common to have a locker in the front axle. I think some of the hard core offroad folks do that but it is generally not recommended for on road use. RB On 05/09/2014 4:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and expense!) of adding an LSD? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z psjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Old MB
Good thing they built old Mercedes strong. I just came back from the bank. There is a storm going through and when I opened the driver's door, Mother Nature did her best to rip off my door. Does not appear to have suffered any harm. I wonder how a Prius would have reacted? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When you're offroad you what every advantage you can get. Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack. Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year... -Curt You need a big winch on the front. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
That chin spoiler is supposed to improve your mileage by preventing air from going under the truck on the highway. You need to make one that can be lifted or lowered depending on where you are driving. Hydraulic or air cylinders? And the winch? Must be some way to make an anchor that you could drive into the ground so you could pull yourself free. I used to work with a fellow who was an avid hunter and fisherman. He drove 4 WD Suburbans and said if he had to choose he would take the winch rather than the 4WD. RB On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the tire. I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed On 05/09/2014 7:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Because 4wd is really 2wd. I've been stuck with just two wheels spinning. When you're offroad you what every advantage you can get. Its the same reason I won't have an AWD vehicle, I can drive into stuff in 2wd I can back out of in 4wd. If you drive in to a hole in 4wd and get stuck what have you got? Well yeah, I've got the highlift jack. Which reminds me, I bought Dad extraction ramps for Father's day, I'm buying him his own highlift jack for hunting season. He got his Jeep stuck last year... -Curt You need a big winch on the front. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
I would think the real problem with the highlift jack is finding places on the truck that are not going to be damaged by the jack. About the only spot on my truck that I can think of where I might be able to jack it up without damaging the bumper etc, is the receiver hitch. RB On 08/09/2014 9:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Most places we go theres not much to winch to. More useful is the Highlift jack. Jack 'er up and stuff something (like the extraction ramps) under the tire. I am considering a new bumper though, the Dodge has a huge chin and a plastic air dam very close to the ground. I forsee the air dam getting ripped off pretty early on, its only maybe 6 off the ground. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
On 08/09/2014 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: No problem at all, you need lift-mate hooks http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00042KGWG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8qid=1410189480sr=1keywords=hi+lift+jack which are such a good product I wish I'd had 'em years ago. The hooks go in the holes in the wheels, the jack goes on the top bar the hooks at attached to and you lift the wheel. It puts the jack right where you want it lifting the wheel which means you don't have to lift so far since you don't have to hoist the suspension too. The hooks can also hook around a bumper so you can jack there if theres nothing good to jack against under the wheel. They also sell a big foot to put under the jack. Dad will be getting (as a present) a REAL Hi-Lift jack along with the foot. I have a Tractor Supply Tractor Jack which is decent (I have jacked up the tractor with it) but not as good as the real thing. -Curt I think I will pass on that. I like my fenders the way they are. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
OK, I think it is time to petition WalMart to install bullet proof shelving so that we have some place to hide during gun battles that occur while we are trying to haul out the Mobil1. RB On 08/09/2014 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting that Kroger is taking this up. When I lived in Indiana you saw OC people all of the time. I don't ever recall seeing one in a Kroger, but I clearly recall seeing them in places like WalMart. In fact, I was in a Walmart with my youngest son right after we moved there, and all of the sudden he's poking me and saying quietly, Dad, there's some guy with a pistol and he's not a cop!! It was then that I had to explain open carry laws to him... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
And the result will be that both Kaleb and Scotland will be bankrupted! RB On 08/09/2014 7:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I vote yes, Kaleb should get this car and Scotland should be independent! Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prius
Careful, you might get beaten up by MB owners in a parking lot. I always threatened to put HD logos on my old Goldwing and tell people who were clueless that it was HD's experiment with flat water cooled engines but I was reluctant to encounter some of the HD folks who might not think it was funny. RB On 09/09/2014 2:36 AM, Gerald L Bailey via Mercedes wrote: Gerry wrote: If I buy a Prius I'll put a Mercedes star and a 300D insignia on it so people will think it's just another brain fart from Mercedes designers in Germany. Few people can identify a car by it's shape. Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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*The big picture:* * Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/Facts/Gun_Death_and_Injury_Stat_Sheet_3-Year_Average_FINAL.pdf. * Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention, the Brady Campaign http://infocenter.nbcuni.ge.com/ResearchTopic/IssuesControversies/GunViolenceFacts.html reports. * Between 2000 and 2010, a total of 335,609 people died from guns -- more than the population of St. Louis, Mo. (318,069), Pittsburgh (307,484), Cincinnati, Ohio (296,223), Newark, N.J. (277,540), and Orlando, Fla. (243,195) (sources: CDF http://www.childrensdefense.org/child-research-data-publications/data/state-data-repository/protect-children-not-guns-key-facts-2013.pdf, U.S. Census http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/index.html; CDC http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html) * One person is killed by a firearm every 17 minutes, 87 people are killed during an average day, and 609 are killed every week. (source: CDC) *Homicides by weapon:* * Handguns comprised 72.5 percent of the firearms used in murder and non-negligent manslaughter incidents in 2011; 4.1 percent were with shotguns; 3.8 percent were with rifles; 18.5 percent were with unspecified firearms. I still think that bullet proof shelving should be installed in all retail stores for the protection of the people. RB On 09/09/2014 11:48 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: You are kidding right? With the price of groceries these days you need an armed guard to carry all the money TO the grocery store and to carry the one bag of groceries your total pay can buy FROM the grocery store.. I live in Arizona, where it is both legal and common to carry discrete or openly, no restrictions. It is quite common to meet other shoppers who, like me are armed. No one except the criminals or some back east visitors who are gun phobic worry about it. I shop Krogers [branded as Frys here] often. There have been no robberies and no gang assaults in the parking lot either. Welcome to America, where your right to self defense is an act of God, not government. Government just recognizes that fact along with the other God given rights listed in the Constitutional Amendments. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You lost me there. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those guys that got the beat down by the group of youths would probably support the idea. --R On 9/9/14 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder how Kroger will react to that petition taking them to task for allowing shoppers to carry guns in their supermarkets ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sure wish it was a diesel
So, how did MB change it after 74? The AC system in my 76 is pretty basic. I wouldn't have thought they would have changed anything much before they went from the 115 to the 123 models? Any ideas? RB On Sep 7, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Actually, there a simple but difficult to properly repair cause for blower failure in the W114/115 -- the damper flap that switches from heat to AC has a change-over switch on it that switches the fan control over between the AC blower and the heater blower. If this servo (vacuum operated) leaks, or the switch fails -- very common, by the way -- the switch-over can get stuck between the two positions with neither fan blowing. The servo is long unavailable (not used since 1974) but you can cheat and simply wedge the blower switch (and the damper) in the correct position manually. Otherwise, it's the blower switch or the motor, and the motor is pure hell to replace. On that car, you have to remove the evaporator. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prius
I find that I cannot distinguish between brands of cars sitting next to me in traffic unless I can see some symbol. There are often logos in the wheel centers. They all have about the same profile anymore. Wind tunnel testing? or just copying each other? RB On 09/09/2014 2:56 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I tried to distinguish sedans and found it near impossible to tell a Benz from a asian anymore. Same head and tail ends. clay On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:04 AM, John Reames via Mercedes wrote: Speaking of ID'ing cars... When taking long drives in the wee hours, has anyone (else) taken to guessing car make/model etc by the head/tail lights? It does have some practical purpose... I bet that you learn to spot American SUV's (particularly Ford) and American full-size sedans first... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:36, Gerald L Bailey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri wrote: Priapism. Gerry wrote: If I buy a Prius I'll put a Mercedes star and a 300D insignia on it so people will think it's just another brain fart from Mercedes designers in Germany. Few people can identify a car by it's shape. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prius
I believe a lot of the bike folks think that loud is good as it makes them more noticable. Drivers do not pay enough attention and it is easy to miss a motorcycle. I can say that I have heard bikes coming before I have seen them. Randy who would not want to ride one the noisy ones very far PS - As you get older, do you find that you have more issues with spelling? I am looking at the message above and wondering if noticable and noisy are correct. Wierd. On 09/09/2014 7:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Man some days it feels like it. Makes you want to swerve over when one sits next to you at a light constantly blipping the throttle. Harley owners are generally a menace. A couple years ago they talked about giving the anti-loud pipe laws here some teeth and the Harley guys were all against it including Angie's Dad. I pointed out that quieting things down was better than getting banned outright but he doesn't understand me. Of course he thinks the Ninja Turtle bikes should be quieted down... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Probably true but you know what they say about statistics. And, I assume your odds of dying in gun violence are a lot higher in the USA than they are in Canada. RB On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: More people die of: Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes. Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is astonishingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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*U.S. vs. The World* *Last year, handguns killed 48 people in Japan, 8 in Great Britain, 34 in Switzerland, 52 in Canada, 58 in Israel, 21 in Sweden, 42 in West Germany and 10,728 in the United States.* (Half True http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/dec/23/facebook-posts/facebook-posting-handgun-deaths-has-out-date-numbe/) The numbers are wildly out of date. They also omit important context, such as population size. But the odds of being murdered by a gun in the United States is far in excess of the risk in the listed countries. More quick google research so take it for what it is worth, but this site says the odds are much greater in the USA than in Canada. RB who knows lots of people that he would not want to see carrying a gun On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: More people die of: Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes. Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is astonishingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I thought the standard line was that you never show that you have a gun unless you actually intend to use it. RB On 09/09/2014 7:08 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: I never saw much point in open carry in public. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius and changing subjects
Let me suggest that apples and peaches have little to do with a Prius. RB On 09/09/2014 10:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure there is at least one heritage and heirloom apple site on the internet, with pictures. You can indeed identify your tree by the apples. My boss up in Canada had some trees up the hill behind the house that I think were SnowQueen or Famouse (sp) -- one of the original named apples from ether England or France. The house was originally built before the American Revolution (Sailor's Encampment on St. Joseph's Island, Ontario), and I suspect from the condition and appearent age of the trees, they had been there since the place was built. Bright but darkish red skin with pronounced red streaks in the flesh, small, and the best tasting apples I've ever eaten. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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You might not like the source, but are the numbers correct? RB On 10/09/2014 7:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: At 2:15 PM -0500 9/9/14, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: *The big picture:* * Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence There's your problem there, the source. They have a rather large axe to grind. -MMM- ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N and guns
So, how secure is that gun in the holster? How easy might it be for someone to come up behind you and take the gun from you? That is what would concern me as much as anything. If some nut case takes your gun, you may just be the first one to get shot. RB On 10/09/2014 7:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I live in Arizona, where it is both legal and common to carry discrete or openly, no restrictions. It is quite common to meet other shoppers who, like me are armed. No one except the criminals or some back east visitors who are gun phobic worry about it. I shop Krogers [branded as Frys here] often. There have been no robberies and no gang assaults in the parking lot either. Here's a picture of Fry's carry, complete with a $30 Blackhawk Sherpa retention holster, or maybe a $15 knockoff of same. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/09/dean-weingarten/open-carry-at-kroger-well-frys/ ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
