Re: [MBZ] Are w123s a major attraction to people?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

I think the 123 has transcended and is no longer a Mercedes, but *the*
Mercedes. It's the face that everyone thought of in the 80's, so everyone
that grew up in the 80's, 90's remember it best.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 6:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Just got home from hauling 2 more 123 turbos back to the house. Once is
> most likely a parts car on the trailer. The other is an absolute pristine
> BAT bait car. I’m mean jaw dropping nice. I mean Dean what’s his name nice.
> No way does it belong at Okie Acres nice. The wife drove it back.  Had
> people pulling along side taking photos. Had to stop at Sam’s on the way
> back and had people coming up asking about it? Wtf? I used to drive 123s
> all the time and never had this happen. What’s going to happen when I break
> out a 115 or 116 and start driving it?
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** A No Go

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What? Is that *really* a thing? I'd like to see a job notice on that one.
How do they even describe that? "You'll sit in the cab of a truck 8 hours a
day per shift to make sure the pumps have fuel. When the rig runs dry, you
will pull away for another truck to take your place." ??

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> Too bad.  I just learned of a killer job for the perpetually boredom
> proof.  Seems there is a job where you sit in a tanker truck all day long
> going nowhere for over $105k per annum.  You have to sit in the truck in ND
> and keep the well pumps fueled up for months on end.
>
>
>
> clay monroe
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>
>
> > On Oct 9, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Long story short, the UAE didn’t work out for me. My suppressed anxiety
> issues I have never correctly dealt with went ballistic. Additionally, I
> found out some sketchy work related stuff that only made making the
> decision easier. It’s tough to walk away from that paycheck, but preserving
> what’s left of my mental health is worth it.
> > Live and learn.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Buying Used Vehicles

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

That's the worry. No one reads papers anymore, so not worth paying to
advertise with them. Guess I'll have to stick with putting up with
Craigslist.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:37 AM clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> The local Nickle Ad papers have no deals on cars.  Local rags are two
> columns of ads on the back page.  ALL the ads in 2 columns, not only car.
> CL is the listing of last resort for standard cars.  Normal number of
> idiots selling.  Not enough real buyers.  Most are wanting “perfect” almost
> CPO for pennies out of a used car.
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Oct 8, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe it was always a hot mess and I've only realized it recently? Don't
> > know. The junk I've been seeing through my local craigslist and the
> numbers
> > attached to it, complete with the grammar issues and bad information. The
> > last vehicle I put up on Craigslist was a couple of years ago. Stayed up
> > for full term, and I re-posted. I'm not selling a new car, sure, but a
> good
> > solid driver with a $1000 price tag. All day long emails coming in "Give
> > you $200 for it." I'm sure you would. *I'd* give $200 for it, and I'm the
> > one selling it. *sigh* Then we haven't even gotten into the car deals
> that
> > have "gone down" where the guy buying shows up with the cash, and the guy
> > selling leaves with the cash, and the car. Gotten bad enough around here
> > most people only want to do deals in front of the police. My wife is far
> > past the point of "Don't ever use Craigslist again, ever." There just has
> > to be a better way, I think.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM Craig via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:31:08 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Craigslist has apparently become a very hot mess.
> >>
> >> ?  Please explain, Ed.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

I can agree with the FreeNAS. Get it set up and forget about it for the
most part.


On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:55 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Just a generic PC I built out of parts. Basic i7 processor I had laying
> around, although you could certainly use something less powerful.
> Motherboard with a RAID controller, 12GB of RAM, four 2GB hard drives, two
> 1GB hard drives and a 128GB SSD for a boot drive (again, major overkill but
> I had it on the bench.) The hard drives came out of my “failed” Drobo and
> have been working just fine. I think I’ve had one failure of a Toshiba
> drive and it was still under warranty.
>
> With a ZFS encrypted RAID 5 array I think I have around 6GB of space or
> thereabouts.
>
> Hot swappable drives, serious security and redundancy, based on a FreeBSD
> kernel, this thing has been rock solid since I built it.
>
> I’ve had media stuff on it, specifically Plex, but no one in the house
> really seemed interested in using it, so I blew it away and recovered the
> space for my Time Machine volume.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 8, 2018, at 10:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > What hardware are you running it on?
> > I mistakenly thought that new hardware meant to be  NAS would run a long
> > time. In reading reviews, it w=seems that too e many are finding that the
> > lower end Synology, QNAP, and WD NAS boxes are lasting just about three
> > months!
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 8:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> FreeNAS, dude.  My Freenas server has been churning away for almost
> three
> >> years without a hitch.
> >>
> >> Sorry to hear about the QNAP stuff.  My Mac buddies like them and
> Synology.
> >>
> >> Again, I prefer to “roll my own” after getting burned by Drobo and
> DLink.
> >> I’ve never looked back.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 8, 2018, at 9:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The second QNAP TS-328 has died now. They last three months, then just
> >> turn
> >>> off and won't turn on again. Always plugged into a UPS, power supply
> >> brick
> >>> still puts out power, but the box with the drives is just dead. The
> first
> >>> one lasted three months, died, got replaced by another new one. The
> good
> >>> news was that I just plugged the drives in, and all was good. The bad
> >> news
> >>> is that it just died - three months after getting it. I'm NOT impressed
> >>> with QNAP at this point. Don't know what I'll do next, but I'm looking
> >> into
> >>> Synology - just don't want to spend a lot of money ( <$300 ).
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying Used Vehicles

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Well, sure. But Indianapolis specifically.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 4:36 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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>
> Craig inquires:
>
> >>Gotten bad enough around here most people
> >> only want to do deals in front of the police.
>
> >Where is "here"?
>
> Anywhere in the US, around any medium sized to larger metropolitan area.
>
> And no, I'm not being facetious.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a rare Manny 240CD?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

The text indicates it is a conversion. Was an automatic, now a manual.
Although, from the looks of it, probably wasn't nearly well enough done.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:49 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Looking at the pictures closely, I see it as being an automatic... NOT a
> manual.
>
> Pretty sure it's not a 3 peddle car.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:37 PM Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Why is this one:
> >
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300d/6696257072.html
> > still available? $500 seems like a steal if she's running.
> >
> > EdB
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:13 AM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I know how to drive one.  Depending upon the conditions on I-90, I
> could
> > > get it there in a week.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Buying Used Vehicles

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Maybe it was always a hot mess and I've only realized it recently? Don't
know. The junk I've been seeing through my local craigslist and the numbers
attached to it, complete with the grammar issues and bad information. The
last vehicle I put up on Craigslist was a couple of years ago. Stayed up
for full term, and I re-posted. I'm not selling a new car, sure, but a good
solid driver with a $1000 price tag. All day long emails coming in "Give
you $200 for it." I'm sure you would. *I'd* give $200 for it, and I'm the
one selling it. *sigh* Then we haven't even gotten into the car deals that
have "gone down" where the guy buying shows up with the cash, and the guy
selling leaves with the cash, and the car. Gotten bad enough around here
most people only want to do deals in front of the police. My wife is far
past the point of "Don't ever use Craigslist again, ever." There just has
to be a better way, I think.

EdB

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 3:41 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 15:31:08 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Craigslist has apparently become a very hot mess.
>
> ?  Please explain, Ed.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a rare Manny 240CD?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Why is this one:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/1982-mercedes-300d/6696257072.html
still available? $500 seems like a steal if she's running.

EdB

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:13 AM clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> I know how to drive one.  Depending upon the conditions on I-90, I could
> get it there in a week.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Buying Used Vehicles

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Speaking of private sellers that think their vehicle is made of gold
pressed titanium. How is the list selling cars these days? Craigslist has
apparently become a very hot mess. No one reads the local papers anymore.
How do you get a car out there in the wild, generate traffic, and get a
sale?

EdB

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:26 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Has anyone made friends with a car dealer and had them make you an agent
> or whatever, to purchase cars at auction? Is it even possible? I am so
> tired of dealing with private sellers that think their vehicle is made of
> gold, and curbstoners that are slimier that a buy here, pay here lot.
> The whole thing just pisses me off.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

It actually isn't the autonomous software that worries me, they *will*
perfect that. They *will* get the software to a point that it will *never*
have a crash, or kill a pedestrian for any reason. *That* is the part that
worries me.

I watched a lot of anime in the 90s, I could have sworn it was Ghost in the
Shell that scared me so bad. However, I haven't been able to re-find the
scene in question, so it must have been another Japanese animated feature.

Where in, they had *perfected* autonomous auto driving software, and the
entire world trusted it because no one drove their own car anymore. Then,
someone is able to crack the software of a driving car and send it off a
cliff. What are we going to do when our great-grandchildren inherently
trust artificial intelligence and think granddad is being stupid for
keeping the 66 fintail with manual drive in the garage and a virus starts
killing us because we have given over so much control to our automatons?

That movie was *terrifying* to me.

Edd

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> On 30/05/2018 4:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Autopilot Does_not_work.
>>
>> I had my yearly physicians appointment today and we were discussing
>> different things. One thing that came up is a young physician that recently
>> died in a single car auto accident. He was showing off his new
>> Infinity with Pro pilot or some such autonomous driving feature to my
>> doctor. He remarked to my doctor he could probably sleep while it did the
>> driving.
>>
>> I suspect that sentiment cost him his life.
>>
>> http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/coroner-doctor-die
>> s-in-single-vehicle-crash-on-toll-road/article_bdbe746c-317
>> 5-5c1a-b4f3-b24bd1b2de98.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com_
>> campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F_medium=email&
>> utm_content=F16BB8682923D6A57EF91E25A80E537F60855CBF
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Finny find

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Silver and red

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I never kiss and tell... ;)
>
> It's a bit higher than I want for a project car, but it's a really good set
> of bones... so "worth it".
> Still.. it will have to wait for attention... there are other cars ahead of
> it in the "project warehouse"
>
> Taking suggestions on color combinations... anyone?
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What’s the number to make it yours?
> >
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> >
> > > On May 29, 2018, at 12:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm a mechanical genius, but a computer idiot... I was
> successful
> > > doing a direct email to Dan with pics.. So, I could make that work..
> > >
> > > Did a hands on survey of the car yesterday. After a good look at the
> > car, I
> > > only find the front carb missing, the carb cover portion of the air
> > > breather, and the Right tail light present with lens broken.  Doors all
> > > close like bank vaults [need latches oiled ASAP]
> > >
> > > Paint is done to chalk by AZ sun.. Interior is intact and unmolested
> but
> > > sun toasted. And, more importantly, ZERO rat or mouse. Floor pans and
> > > rockers are rust free. in fact, the only rust I could find was in the
> > > trunk, behind the rear wheels in the spare tire well on the Right, and
> at
> > > the bottom of the trunk well on the Left... Very repairable.
> > >
> > > Body is absolutely straight, good solid sheet metal, ALL the glass is
> > > original and clear, no chips or cracks... window rubber is sun toasted.
> > >
> > > Now, I have to decide what to do with it... It's a perfect candidate
> for
> > a
> > > complete body, chassis, interior restoration. Ohh... almost forgot,
> > engine
> > > turns over freely, plugs out. so good start for a running car.. In
> fact.
> > if
> > > I had a set of carbs and a jerry can of fuel, I'm betting I could start
> > and
> > > drive it on the trailer.[after mounting a set of tires, just happen to
> > have
> > > a "spare set" ;)) ]
> > >
> > > Car comes with two sets of keys and original documents and owners
> manual.
> > > Send a direct email and I'll push some pics over to you, if you like.
> > >
> > > Grant...
> > > [Just what I need, another project.. ha]
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:51 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Anyway to share the pics through Google or something? Interested to
> see
> > it
> > >> too.
> > >>
> > >> Edd
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Just came across an Arizona Finny, 1965, Going to look at tomorrow.
> > Been
> > >>> setting in a shade port for past decade or so... rear paint is
> "Arizona
> > >>> faded" , Interior is "Cooked" by the heat... Body is quite straight
> > with
> > >>> the only rust found so far in the trunk spare wells. Seems like a
> good
> > >>> car.. all intact. no parts missing that I see from pics so far.. Will
> > >>> inspect closely tomorrow in person.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone interested?
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Re: [MBZ] 1965 Finny find

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Anyway to share the pics through Google or something? Interested to see it
too.

Edd

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Just came across an Arizona Finny, 1965, Going to look at tomorrow. Been
> setting in a shade port for past decade or so... rear paint is "Arizona
> faded" , Interior is "Cooked" by the heat... Body is quite straight with
> the only rust found so far in the trunk spare wells. Seems like a good
> car.. all intact. no parts missing that I see from pics so far.. Will
> inspect closely tomorrow in person.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

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Unfortunately Red Hat 7 changed *everything*

Network checks are now done through the Network Manager. So command calls
start with nmcli.

*nmcli connection modify wlan0 help*

Also, ifconfig has been deprecated since Red Hat 6 and in 7 I believe it is
just a symlink to the net ip command.

*ip addr help*

A good starting resource is here:

https://access.redhat.com/articles/1189123

and lists most common administrator functions and how they are called in
RHEL 5, 6, and 7.

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wrote:

> > Craig wrote:
>
> > So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
> > graphical user interface.
> >
> > I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I
> > now need to get it working with a wireless connection.
> >
> > Any suggestions on how I do that?
>
> I am not familiar with RedHat ways...
>
> Try "ip link show", or "ifconfig -a"
>
> That should show all the interfaces that the system knows about.
> On Debian, the Wi-Fi will be listed as "wlan0", "wlan1" and the
> wired "eth0", "eth1", etc.
>
> If it's not listed, then it is probably missing the needed kernel
> module.
>
> If it is listed, then the tools I'm familiar with are iwlist,
> iwconfig, wpa_supplicant, ifconfig (been replaced by "ip" in
> systemd).
>
> ifconfig wlan0 up
>
> iwlist wlan0 scan
>
> iwconfig wlan0 essid "My WiFi" mode managed
>
> ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1
>or
> dhclient -v wlan0
>
>
> There are GUI tools, but I can't give advise on any of them...
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Re: [MBZ] 240 D manny $1200

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

"A joy to restore"
- Man who has obviously never worked on Mercedes-Benz before.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> In the Mercedes W123 (North America) FB group by a guy called Anton
> Koncaba Lincoln NE
>
> Selling my 82 240D, manual everything. New looking seats out of the same
> year 300D. 272,000 miles, shows no sign of powertrain problems. Some rust
> but mostly cosmetic, exhaust rattles and the muffler is in the trunk with
> most of an exhaust to replace the current. Needs rear shocks but planning
> on putting some on in a week or 2 unless a buyer is ok as is. I've been
> using as a daily for 9 months, block heater works great. New battery in
> Dec. Vacuum system needs all new lines. Asking $1200, shittier Pontiac's go
> for that much. Honestly would be a great project car, just enough is wrong
> that it'd be a joy to restore and probably wouldn't cost much. Except the
> windshield would cost a bit, you don't notice it while driving but it's
> delaminated in a couple spots you can see in the picture.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

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Though, I gotta ask, why CEntOS? Are you running it in an Enterprise /
Production environment? I mean, if you are that's great. Red Hat work pays
for my bacon. But otherwise, the stability comes at the cost of newer
technologies that most home / laptop users would want. Fedora / Ubuntu
would be a better choice from that perspective.

Also - RHEL7 Network Guide:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/networking_guide/sec-configuring_connection_settings
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Activating wireless service on CentOS 7 / MATE

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 (RHEL7 / CEntOS7) has a very good WiFi
interface. As long as you installed the appropriate packages, it should
recognize the wireless nic and ask you to walk through setup.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> So I finally put CentOS 7 on our laptop and then added MATE for a
> graphical user interface.
>
> I have been using it with a hardwired Internet connection, but I now need
> to get it working with a wireless connection.
>
> Any suggestions on how I do that?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] LWB poos

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Oh Deity, if it's worth that much take it to a Hagerty / Barrett-Jackson /
Mecum auction and stop using Craigslist. *sigh*

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> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/very-rare-mercedes-
> limo-one/6556545540.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

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Windows 10: Hit the Windows button or click on the Window Icon on the task
bar, Just above the Power Icon there should be a gear icon. That is the new
Settings interface. Click that and you will bring up "Settings" however I
don't have 10 on a laptop, so not sure which control panel will have the
setting you are looking for.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 5:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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>
> Did you try the video program on your OS? It usually has brightness
> settings. On Windows 7 you can find it on the control panel via the Windows
> button in the upper left hand corner of the screen. I don't know where it
> is on Windows 10.
> Gerry
> ~~~
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:07:04 -0400
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Anyone have an HP EliteBook?  I can't figure out how to adjust the
> > brightness.  When using the fn + F10 toggle it won't brighten or dim.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:26 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > All I know is my Windows PCs boot much faster after I replaced the HDs
> > > with SSDs.
> > > I know the SSD can fail suddenly but I've had HDs do that too.  I'm
> kind
> > > of anal about backup with files backed up locally and in the cloud as
> well
> > > as (at least) weekly drive images.  My backups are all automated so
> it's
> > > fairly painless.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim
> > > Cathey
> > > > via Mercedes
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:03 AM
> > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > > Cc: Jim Cathey 
> > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have read that SSDs have a much longer lifespan, and are a lot
> > > > > faster to boot (pun attempt).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Completely false on both counts, depending on circumstances and
> > > subtracting
> > > > the pun.
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - desktop hard disks

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Don't send it out to scrap!!

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> XW8600 is so 2010. ;)I've got one too and it's been great. The Z8 is out
> now so the old xw series is relegated to the dustbin. I've got one in the
> classroom due for the scrap pile as soon as I reinstall Windows on a Z820
> to replace it.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:17 PM, fmiser via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   > OK wrote:
>
> >  but am also thinking of one of those HP workstations Curt was
> > recommending a few years ago.
>
> I got a HP xw8600.  I _like_ it!
>
> I do have it doing server like duties, with multiple remote sessions.
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Re: [MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not even an MB

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Love the Panther body in all forms. Have driven and been in a few, but not
yet owned one.

However, had a LT1 - 9C1 Interceptor for a few years. That car was insane.
Blew the water pump, sold her and bought a Roadmaster wagon. (Also LT1) and
*somehow* that thing was even more insane. The 9C1 could keep up with a
Vette from the same year in straight line acceleration, and I don't know
how they did that either considering the Caprice had to weigh at least
twice what the Vette did, but I felt like that wagon was even faster.
Previous owner might have chipped it or something, because the only other
car I've ever owned that made me grin like that was an 86 IROC-Z that would
get sideways on beefy tires on dry pavement. That car was terrifying. Don't
try to take a Vette in a curve though, thing was built to *Intercept* not
*Pursue*

EdB

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> I'm with you.  I actually like the Crown Vic.  AND the Impala SS is
> definitely on my bucket list.
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 5:05 PM
> To: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not
> even an MB
>
> Reminded me of the Mercury Marauder that was out for a short while. It was
> parked in the lot here when I left for lunch. I did not go and look inside
> to see whether it had decent seats.
> I have always liked the last of the older Impala SS too. Not sold as an
> Impala otherwise. It was the Caprice if it was not the SS. Early 90's if
> memory serves to be correct.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 05/02/2018 5:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Was it donked?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/18 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Black on black Crown Victoria with tinted glass and shiny chrome wheels.
> >>
> >> RB
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 MERCEDES BENZ 230 FINTAIL - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Wha  what color is that!?

EdB

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Jaime, go get this!
>
> https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-mercedes-benz-230-
> fintail/6475029288.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] CD For Kaleb

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Oh man  I'd love to be able to afford a CD ... *sigh*

EdB

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1982-
> mercedes-300cd/6454155413.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Taking rust free cars to Michigan

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Abu Dhabi? That would be *really* interesting from a cultural perspective.
I'd like to have an offer from out there, give me a new outlook on life and
such. Probably wouldn't want to live there forever though, but the amount
of money has got to have created some really crazy differences.

EdB

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> Life is weird. I have been extended two ridiculous job offers. One in
> Michigan and one in Abu Dhabi.
> If it plays out and I end up choosing Michigan, I would probably bring my
> two rust free cars along. Am I going to get more for them up there in the
> land of Tim worm disease than I would get for them out here?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

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Nah, I failed Physics.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Physics
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 12/4/17 3:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Genius.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
>>> micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
>>> smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
>>> still. Then slowly work it into the seat.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
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>>>
>>> Hi Gang,
>>>>  The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had
>>>> finally
>>>> broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber
>>>> split.
>>>> Seems to be a pretty tight fit,
>>>>
>>>>  Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
>>>> break any more...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
still. Then slowly work it into the seat.

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> Hi Gang,
> The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had finally
> broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber split.
> Seems to be a pretty tight fit,
>
> Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
> break any more...
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grub (Grand Unified Bootloader) Questions

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Question, you weren't using BitLocker on the Windows partition, were you?

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Having cleared out space on my Windows laptop for a Linux installation, I
> finally installed CentOS 7 yesterday.
>
> In the past (on earlier versions), the install program would notice the
> Windows partition and ask if I wanted to be able to boot that, too. So I
> would end up with Grub showing both booting options.
>
> This time, however, I was not presented the option so I can no longer
> boot Windows even though it is still there.
>
> I thought this was no problem, thinking I could just add the correct code
> to /boot/grub/grub.conf (I have that specific code saved on my system so
> I could reference it).
>
> Well, I logged in and looked in /boot/grub and found that grub.conf was
> now named grub.cfg and that it was automatically generated from files
> in /etc/grub.d! It is now MUCH more complicated than it used to be!
>
> I tried inserting the code in what I thought was the right place, ran the
> command to generate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, rebooted, and found that I did
> not have the additional boot choice.
>
> Does anyone know what is going on?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Finny for poos

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Oh dude! That *patina* Clear coat the hell out that sumitch and drive it
like *I* stole it.

EdB

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>
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Re: [MBZ] One for Dan

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Dan,

Are you still looking for a clean fintail? I found a really expensive one
for you.

http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars/316/

I mean, it's only $17,500, so that's walkin' `round money.

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> If anyone has half a brain they will want to take advantage of his
> professed buyer’s remorse and offer him less than what he paid.  After all,
> if he’s so sorry he bought it, wouldn’t he expect to take a loss to get rid
> of it?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 24, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On June 24, 2017 at 6:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> On a related note, the schmuck that bought my 300D is getting requests
> to sell it on the “buyer’s remorse” story.  Guess if he wants to take a
> loss he might be able to get rid of it.
> >
> > Somebody might offer him BAT money (7k) for it, they can plainly see
> what he paid and might regret not doing it themselves.
> > I'm sure the transaction price will never be publicized unless he
> auctions it himself.
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[MBZ] Unlimited Power!

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I'll just leave this here.



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Re: [MBZ] Wonder if red seat covers are still available?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

They claim it is true MB-TEX. I've had them send me samples, but never an
entire bolt. But the samples felt legit to my uneducated hands.

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> Nice site, looks like they offer 124 cabriolet stuff as well.
> --
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> '95 E300
>
> On October 9, 2017 12:25:46 PM EDT, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
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> >Sure: http://www.worlduph.com/mercedes_benz/w107/
> >
> >On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> 1979 MERCEDES 450SL
> >>
> >>
> >https://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/d/1979-mercedes-450sl/6331329289.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Wonder if red seat covers are still available?

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Sure: http://www.worlduph.com/mercedes_benz/w107/

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice dead 240d

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Also, as an aside, if the manual transmissions are suddenly selling to
people who want to convert their automatics, I'd say you don't even have to
keep the car stock. You say it is too nice to part out, well, maybe convert
it to automatic, make sure it has a good serviceable engine, and then sell
it *and* the manual parts and come out well ahead. That's all probably
easier said than done, though, even for someone who works on old Mercedes
all the time.

Hell, get it running really well and put it up on BaT-crap insane and get
(blast now I can't remember who sold their car on there recently sorry) but
get the guy that paid several thou for a 123 down to buy her. Be great fun
for the entire family, or something.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Ed Booher  wrote:

> If it is truly rust-less I'd pay $1K for it. (Not that I currently have
> $1K at hand, but you know.) The way I see it, even if the engine is seized,
> as long as there is zero rust in the body, a donor engine is easily source.
> Very easy in your case, I'd imagine, given the cars you have lying around.
>
> Rust is very, very hard to deal with, as I'm sure you know. Mechanicals
> are easy by comparison. They are designed to be replaced as regular
> maintenance after all.
>
> Just my 2 cents, but I'd say buy it.
>
> EdB
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Re: [MBZ] Nice dead 240d

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

If it is truly rust-less I'd pay $1K for it. (Not that I currently have $1K
at hand, but you know.) The way I see it, even if the engine is seized, as
long as there is zero rust in the body, a donor engine is easily source.
Very easy in your case, I'd imagine, given the cars you have lying around.

Rust is very, very hard to deal with, as I'm sure you know. Mechanicals are
easy by comparison. They are designed to be replaced as regular maintenance
after all.

Just my 2 cents, but I'd say buy it.

EdB

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> Or give the old guy $1000 credit against a Benz he can drive.
> Mitch
>
> > On October 9, 2017 at 12:58 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> > As long as The Queen is all taken care of, and you have the cash to
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie for Dan

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I seriously hate when someone uses "Finished examples call down the Wrath
of Ra himself" in freaking marketing. If it is worth that much, you would
finish it and sell it for that much. */rant*

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> Here ya go.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

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I'd give $500 for that 300 CD.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> http://sable.secureserver.net/c/43569?id=151954.376.1.2e2337
> 8200cfdb782768328bf07e6193
>
> Max and I might have to go take a look at this thing.  Anyone interested?
> The agent probably has some totally unrealistic expectation on it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT This could be very dangerous

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Brother Dan, bring out the Holy Pump of Diesel Injection. Read from the
Good Book, Chilton's, Chapter 5, Verse 12 to 21.

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration?
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well ... *this*
> > https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item=1=9367
> could
> > be very dangerous. YMCA has not been able to afford the property, it was
> > taken by the municipality. A lease agreement of 60K annual was signed,
> but
> > so far YMCA has only been able to honor 24K annual. So there is no
> current
> > taxes on the property, since it is government owned, but a For Profit
> will
> > start being taxed immediately at 2.829% on a total assessment of
> > $3,107,600.00. Starting bid is only $5,000 though. Who wants to
> incorporate
> > a non-profit church and go buy the place?
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.govdeals.com
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT This could be very dangerous

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Well ... *this*
https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item=1=9367 could
be very dangerous. YMCA has not been able to afford the property, it was
taken by the municipality. A lease agreement of 60K annual was signed, but
so far YMCA has only been able to honor 24K annual. So there is no current
taxes on the property, since it is government owned, but a For Profit will
start being taxed immediately at 2.829% on a total assessment of
$3,107,600.00. Starting bid is only $5,000 though. Who wants to incorporate
a non-profit church and go buy the place?

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> https://www.govdeals.com
>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] Look Man, Ima' tell ya. I *really* need me one a them crack Mercedes.

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Oh yeah, light poles have been melting out there or something, right?

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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>
> But no fire chicken on the hood.
>
> Nothing like a black car with a black interior in AZ!
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Buyer's Remorse, or How My Flip Flopped

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Hey Dan, Have you seen this one?
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-230s/

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> http://bringatrailer.com/2017/06/22/bat-auction-success-
> story-1300-mile-drive-in-1982-mercedes-benz-300-d-allows-
> plenty-of-time-for-reflection/
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Re: [MBZ] Buyer's Remorse, or How My Flip Flopped

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So many people think these cars are built from gold pressed platinum just
because they have a three pointed star. I'm always walking up on old Benz
with for sale signs in the window, only to see new car prices on the card
for rusted out hulks. It's horrifying to be honest. You can buy a Rolls
Royce Silver Spirit in good shape for 10 - 15K. Too many Americans just
don't understand that Mercedes is the GM of Germany. They have very "Chevy
Level" cars for entry ownership to the "Dictator Level" cars for the
"Cadillac Feel." I love old Mercedes, but that doesn't mean they are worth
the asking price on most of them. Anyway, rant off.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

> I should respond to the "seller's remorse" comment and say, "No, not after
> selling a $1700 car for $6700, thank you."
>
> Ouch.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 22, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > /picked me up in another one of his Diesel Mercedes, a beautiful SD300/
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 6/22/17 10:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> http://bringatrailer.com/2017/06/22/bat-auction-success-
> story-1300-mile-drive-in-1982-mercedes-benz-300-d-allows-
> plenty-of-time-for-reflection/
> >>
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> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] Buyer's Remorse, or How My Flip Flopped

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Ah see, there it is:

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> May 8 at 2:16 PM
> Vitaminc914 237
>
> @bru212 are you out?
> ---
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> May 8 at 2:16 PM
> Vitaminc914 237
>
> Come one, 1 more bid
>
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>
> May 8 at 2:16 PM
>
> Sold on 5/8/17 for $6,700 to Vitaminc914
>
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> May 8 at 2:17 PM
> Vitaminc914 237
>
> I was honestly out..you could’ve gotten it for $100 more.. :)
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Re: [MBZ] Buyer's Remorse, or How My Flip Flopped

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The BaT history supports that, right before auction close he posted "Come
on, one more bid." Then told another user a little later in the convo
transaction that he was "honestly out, he could have had it for $100 more"

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>
> > On June 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What a moron.
>
> I still suspect Ray never wanted to buy the car, he was just playing an
> expensive game of chicken with the other bidders and took it one step too
> far.
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?

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Sounds like the guy is just an old Ford collector. One of the Jalopnik guys
had an article about how he almost couldn't give his old luxo barge away
and lost money on it. So it is all subjective. Find the right guy and you
can name your own price.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is actually a pretty big market for old malaise era Land Yachts.
> This particular car isn't that big.  But, my brother and I went to an
> auction last December and old 70's luxo yachts were selling fairly high.
> He ended up buying a 1977 Thunderbird with 19,000 miles.   He just sold it
> last week and doubled his money!   The guy who bought it also has a 1977
> Lincoln Mark, a 1978 Granada, and a 1978 Mustang II.  My brother is going
> to another auction next month to check out a 1979 Lincoln Mark with a
> 28,000 miles.   It is amazing how much $ people are making flipping this
> big boats.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:47 AM
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> Subject: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?
>
> This time-warp, retro "classic" resides in DC.  Fascinating window into
> the latest in early 80s technology and luxury.  How many barrels of crude
> were sacrificed to craft so many aces of faux wood?
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-lincoln-continental/
>
> I doubt this will crash through the $7500 barrier.
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want an '82 Lincoln Continental on BAT?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Man, wish I could have "pony'd" up to this "foxy" lady!

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> This time-warp, retro "classic" resides in DC.  Fascinating window into the
> latest in early 80s technology and luxury.  How many barrels of crude were
> sacrificed to craft so many aces of faux wood?
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-lincoln-continental/
>
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

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Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
man!

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> https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6163291067.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2014 Beetle TDI Convertible RIP

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Are you talking about the Phaeton?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Phaeton

or maybe the CC?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_CC


On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> I saw some thing at a stoplight that looked like a cheap asian
> (overpriced) knockoff of an E class.  It had a vw logo on the trunk.   I
> guess it was the new version of pissant or some such thing.
>
> I don't think it was big enough to be the vw knockoff of maybach.  Talk
> about "lost their way"...  The "folks car" trying to compete with MB by
> building a "car for kings and sundry turd world dictators!"
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> June 13, 2017 at 12:15 PM
>> Yea I think it might have been
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Poos could replace the SL

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

While the shade of pink is hilarious, whoever had that car painted must
have paid a pretty penny. Door jambs were painted to match.

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>
>
> 2008 MERCEDES CLK 350 CONVERTIBLE
> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6161762072.html
>
> via cPro for Craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] Forget the Crack, I'm Huffing Krylon Now...

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Guys need to start taking screen caps and posting too :)  18 hours and it's
already gone. This posting has been deleted by its author.

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> https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/6162243338.html
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody in indiana?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

That is darn near flippin' Chicago ... 2 hour drive to look and bid against
Rick ... hmmm

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> Go bid on this super rare W108:
> https://www.estatesales.net/IN/Griffith/46319/1564794?highlight=Mercedes
>
> And then please sell it to me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Stop everything, here is a finny for Poos

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>From the source of all true news, Wikipedia:

The legendary L16 four-cylinder design is derived from the Mercedes-Benz
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz> engine Prince Motor Company
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Motor_Company> was licensed to
produce copies of in four- and six-cylinder displacements. By the time
Prince merged with Nissan in 1966 it had altered the design to where it no
longer needed licensing. The engine still resembles a Mercedes in many
ways, particularly the valve train
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_train>.

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> I have heard stories about the Nissan Z cars having a pseudo-MB engine in
> them but always wondered how true this was. Is there anything that supports
> the claim?
>
> Just curious, as I worked on a number of them and would find it
> interesting to know that early in my life I was working on MB engines and
> didn't even know it
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 7, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nissan has always had close ties to DB/DC/D*(whatever it calls itself)
> to the point that the peekup I had was essentially a M120 engine, and the
> original 240Z was essentially a M180.   I once bought a 5 speed trans from
> a 280Z to see if it would bolt up to an OM621.  (it won't)  It might have
> bolted up to a W201 engine from the same era, but I never had one to try it
> on with.
> >
> > I won't be putting any ricer parts on a german car, but I have put parts
> from German cars on frods and Dogdes.
> >
> >> Ed Booher via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> June 7, 2017 at 9:25 AM
> >> Note to self, Nissan engine fits in bay of fintail. Now we can Rice the
> >> Germans. Got it. Now to find me a wrecked Sentra!
> >>
> >> EdB
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Re: [MBZ] Stop everything, here is a finny for Poos

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Note to self, Nissan engine fits in bay of fintail. Now we can Rice the
Germans. Got it. Now to find me a wrecked Sentra!

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] OT NT4 and Iomega Zip

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Sorry, I kind of rambled there toward the end. My point was, Iomega had
products most everyone in the industry wanted for one use or another. All
they had to do was make them quality and the world would have beaten a path
to their door. Instead class action lawsuits, bad taste in the public
mouth, and the loss of, I assume, a very lucrative contract to put a Zip
floppy in almost every Mac saw their stock plummet and a buyout occur.

EdB

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Ed Booher  wrote:

> Iomega had gold on their hands, but their quality control was absolutely
> horrific. The "click of death" would have been easily avoided by just a
> little QA on the backend. *Everyone* wanted a Zip back in the day. It is
> actually my firm belief that the click of death warranty repairs to Macs is
> what caused Jobs to demand an end to *all* floppy based media back in the
> day. The entire industry flipped its collective wig when the first iMac was
> unveiled with *no* floppy. USB thumb drives were not as readily available
> at this time either, though this helped to build that industry too.
> CD/DVD's were "good enough" and for everything else there was the network,
> since the i in iMac stood for Internet, and as such meant the system was
> designed around being networked.
>
> I once sold upper management on a plan to use the Iomega Jaz drives in
> support systems. We had contracts with communications providers dealing
> with the "Big Three" and their supply chains. The original plan was to have
> several systems to use for troubleshooting. Kind of odd that even then most
> people were using a form of Windows as their "Enterprise OS" but our
> primary systems were UltraSparc Suns. So instead of having several
> computers we had a single x86 system with a Jaz and "hard floppies" we
> could use to boot DOS, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0
> Workstation, NT Server, Linux, BSD and early x86 Solaris. So we could "see"
> what the customer was seeing to walk them through menu choices and control
> panels over the phone. Then the ticketing and other "day to day" work was
> done in Solaris on Sparc.
>
> EdB
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  > wrote:
>
>> We had billions of the external SCSI Zip drives when I worked in the
>> schools. Nearly all died from the dreaded "click of death" that affected
>> certain models.
>>
>> I can remember hauling hundreds of them out to the scrap dumpster by the
>> cables...
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have an external drive and some disks around somewhere in a box, i
>> think it has a parallel cable?
>> >
>> > --FT
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 6/5/17 11:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> Yep, I am moving a bunch and keep planning someday to put a zip drive
>> in an old computer
>> >>
>> >> I have 6 or 8 brand new disks, still in the wrapper/
>> >>> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>> >>> June 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM
>> >>> Anyone remember these?
>> >>> Found these here. Zip 100mb media - no drive.
>> >>> Anyone?
>> >>> mao
>> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT NT4 and Iomega Zip

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Iomega had gold on their hands, but their quality control was absolutely
horrific. The "click of death" would have been easily avoided by just a
little QA on the backend. *Everyone* wanted a Zip back in the day. It is
actually my firm belief that the click of death warranty repairs to Macs is
what caused Jobs to demand an end to *all* floppy based media back in the
day. The entire industry flipped its collective wig when the first iMac was
unveiled with *no* floppy. USB thumb drives were not as readily available
at this time either, though this helped to build that industry too.
CD/DVD's were "good enough" and for everything else there was the network,
since the i in iMac stood for Internet, and as such meant the system was
designed around being networked.

I once sold upper management on a plan to use the Iomega Jaz drives in
support systems. We had contracts with communications providers dealing
with the "Big Three" and their supply chains. The original plan was to have
several systems to use for troubleshooting. Kind of odd that even then most
people were using a form of Windows as their "Enterprise OS" but our
primary systems were UltraSparc Suns. So instead of having several
computers we had a single x86 system with a Jaz and "hard floppies" we
could use to boot DOS, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0
Workstation, NT Server, Linux, BSD and early x86 Solaris. So we could "see"
what the customer was seeing to walk them through menu choices and control
panels over the phone. Then the ticketing and other "day to day" work was
done in Solaris on Sparc.

EdB

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> We had billions of the external SCSI Zip drives when I worked in the
> schools. Nearly all died from the dreaded "click of death" that affected
> certain models.
>
> I can remember hauling hundreds of them out to the scrap dumpster by the
> cables...
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 6, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have an external drive and some disks around somewhere in a box, i
> think it has a parallel cable?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >> On 6/5/17 11:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Yep, I am moving a bunch and keep planning someday to put a zip drive
> in an old computer
> >>
> >> I have 6 or 8 brand new disks, still in the wrapper/
> >>> Mountain Man via Mercedes 
> >>> June 5, 2017 at 9:38 PM
> >>> Anyone remember these?
> >>> Found these here. Zip 100mb media - no drive.
> >>> Anyone?
> >>> mao
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oh for pete's sake

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

On a semi-related note: The 32-bit EFI, 32-bit Core Duo Mac Mini (and maybe
the equivalent Macbook) will only address 3 GB of RAM, not the 4GB maximum
of 32-bit architecture. It is slightly annoying have two 2GB DIMMs in my
Mini and only getting to see 3GB of it  *sigh*  at least the RAM
itself was "free" out of a dead and scrapped laptop.

EdB

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Ed Booher  wrote:

> Yup the 32-bit EFI is fun. However, I know that the 32-bit EFI Mac Pro 1,1
> will boot 64 bit Red Hat / CentOS. Because I've been using my CentOS Live
> DVD to try and get some data off a drive. So GRUB *will* do it, maybe
> MacPup doesn't include the 32-bit GRUB loader since they assume this is
> replacing a 64-bit OS X install?
>
> EdB
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Some of you might remember I found a small cache of Macbook Pro Core2Duo
>> machines. I'd intended to install MacPup Linux on one of them and use it as
>> a machine for camp, mostly for pulling pictures off game camera SD
>> cards.Turns out that most (all?) Core2Duo machines use a 32bit EFI even
>> though its a 64bit machine. The hoops that have to be jumped through are
>> not insurmountable but definitely annoying... Gee thanks Apple...
>>
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Oh for pete's sake

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Yup the 32-bit EFI is fun. However, I know that the 32-bit EFI Mac Pro 1,1
will boot 64 bit Red Hat / CentOS. Because I've been using my CentOS Live
DVD to try and get some data off a drive. So GRUB *will* do it, maybe
MacPup doesn't include the 32-bit GRUB loader since they assume this is
replacing a 64-bit OS X install?

EdB

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> Some of you might remember I found a small cache of Macbook Pro Core2Duo
> machines. I'd intended to install MacPup Linux on one of them and use it as
> a machine for camp, mostly for pulling pictures off game camera SD
> cards.Turns out that most (all?) Core2Duo machines use a 32bit EFI even
> though its a 64bit machine. The hoops that have to be jumped through are
> not insurmountable but definitely annoying... Gee thanks Apple...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT NT4 and Iomega Zip

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Oh yeah, still have a zip drive in the Power G3  both the Putty and the
Blue and White G3's have Zips I think. Dude, NT 4.0 was odd, still have the
Workstation install disks around somewhere. Microsoft made some slight code
changes to the NT kernel just past 4 because they had claimed that the
Workstation and Servers had *completely* different kernels. Like, didn't
share a line of code different. There was a huge controversy because an IT
firm wrote a program that would forcibly change a single bit in
Workstation, that would boot it into Server mode. You can't do it by hand,
the OS will change it back. Microsoft flipped. It was hilarious at the time.

EdB

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> Anyone remember these?
> Found these here.  Zip 100mb media - no drive.
> Anyone?
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Re: [MBZ] Old house pics

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When I was younger, just a bad little kid,
My mama noticed funny things I did,
Like shootin' puppies with a B B gun
I'd poison guppies, and when I was done
I'd find a pussycat and bash in its head
That's when my mama said

She said, "My boy, I think someday
You'll find a way
To make your natural tendencies pay
You'll be a dentist
You have a talent for causin' things pain
Son, be a dentist
People will pay you to be inhumane
Your temperament's wrong for the priesthood
And teaching would suit you still less
Son, be a dentist
You'll be a success!

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Then on the other hand if I were crazy enough to dive in what are he
> chance of Fannie Mae taking my $12-$15k offer on a $30k listing. On another
> note the wife went over to talk to the neighbor who had lived there her
> whole life. Apparently back in the day it was owned by a dentist who ran a
> small dental office in one of the rooms. I come from a long line of
> dentists with my grandfather being Will Rogers dentist. I should have been
> a dentist.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You will have to call the local house mover.  It should be less there
> than most of the rest of the country.
> >
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> June 1, 2017 at 3:14 PM
> >> So what does it cost to have a foundation fixed? 20k? 30k? Assuming you
> picked it up for 15k and spent 30k on foundation you are only at 45k in.
> Still have room to do windows and cosmetic. Wiring looks to have been done
> but would have to verify. Not sure on plumbing. It's all just thinking out
> loud at this point.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I hate these kits

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

If memory serves, the SSK was technically only a chassis ala Cord and
Duesenberg. The manufacturer partnered with a carriage maker and sold
completed vehicles, but they were hand built, not mass produced, so they
weren't all exactly identical. They were sport / race cars, so the bodies
were usually race specific ala today's NASCAR. There were only 40-ish SSK's
ever actually built, and there were a couple of different over all looks.
Most of them were crashed. *None* of which the "Gazelle" actually
effectively "replicates." Realistically the "Studebaker" Excalibur comes
*far* closer to being an SSK replicar than the Gazelle ever did, and the
Excalibur didn't need a hood star as it was built in tribute of the SSK but
as a fully modern new car. Was kind of the first "retro styled" cars,
really, that everything is now trying to be.

EdB

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Mercedes replicars.
>
> Typically advertised as replicas of a 1930 something SSK or something like
> that…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 31, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rather odd that they advertise them as being Mercedes. Not much about
> them is Mercedes.  A hoodstar maybe if someone springs for it but nothing
> else.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >
> > On 31/05/2017 3:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Mercedes SSK.Gazelle kit cars on CL today:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6115653997.html
> >>
> >> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6146852020.html
> >>
> >> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/6119363483.html
> >>
> >> https://modesto.craigslist.org/cto/6114162292.html
> >>
> >> https://redding.craigslist.org/cto/6135798994.html
> >>
> >> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/6128136008.html
> >>
> >> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/cto/6116796326.html
> >>
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6150893754.html
> >>
> >> https://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/6151654540.html
> >>
> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/6148456687.html
> >>
> >> https://evansville.craigslist.org/cto/6151365735.html
> >>
> >> https://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/6151432279.html
> >>
> >> https://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6147938738.html
> >>
> >> https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6128462106.html
> >>
> >> https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6138182866.html
> >>
> >> https://limaohio.craigslist.org/cto/6146000526.html
> >>
> >> https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/6150113199.html
> >>
> >> https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/6140388814.html
> >>
> >> https://austin.craigslist.org/cto/6111041799.html
> >>
> >> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6147723809.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Semi OT: BMW Question

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

You store the BMW at my place, I'll make sure it gets plenty of exercise.
When you get a house you can have what's left of it back. Fair Dinkum.


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> My brother lives there and has for 20+ years. He has been very helpful.
> But, I appreciate the offer.  His opinions are a little slanted because his
> ideas on housing prices are significantly higher than mine.
>
> I wish I could take all the vehicles to Memphis. But,  I will have to rent
> a house for a while until my house in Wichita sells and I'm not sure I'll
> have room for all the cars.  I can't store any at my brothers house because
> he has 4 cars of his own.
>
> > On May 24, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Floyd Thursby 
> wrote:
> >
> > Drive a 740 to Meffis, fly back and tow the other one with the truck.
> Yer all good.
> >
> > I have some good friends who live in/near Memphis if you need any advice
> on places to live, etc.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >> On 5/24/17 12:48 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I am pursuing a job opportunity in Memphis and if I get it, I will be
> moving to Memphis.  I currently have three cars:  1. 1999 BMW 740iL with
> 102,000 miles  2.  2000 BMW 740iL with 231,000 miles and 3. 1992 Ford
> F150.   I really want to keep the truck, but I am not sure it will make
> sense to move it also.  So, the real question is what is my 2000 BMW 740iL
> really worth?   I still love driving it.  It has tons of options but lots
> of miles.   The rear bumper has good hole/crack in the bottom of it.  The
> interior is still in really good shape.  There is a small spot of rust on
> the rear passenger door about the size of a lemon.  It is surface rust.
>  Everything works.   Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> Donald H. Snook
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Sick 1978 Lincoln coupe on BAT

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

She is absolutely *prime* for an IH Power Stroke upgrade.

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:54 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> It will wallow down the road, slowly, gulping gas along the way. It is good
> for scrap metal though - just like when it was new!
>
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 18/05/2017 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I want it so badly.  Talk me out of it.
> >>
> >> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-lincoln-town-coupe-3/
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Sick 1978 Lincoln coupe on BAT

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Andrew, you know you want it. Let know one deter you from the proper path.

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> I want it so badly.  Talk me out of it.
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-lincoln-town-coupe-3/
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Re: [MBZ] Stolen Mercedes ML55

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

$2000 seems very reasonable. Are MLs really this cheap?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> Remember that rusty burgundy ML55 that I was sort of kicking myself for
> not buying at $1700 last summer?
>
> Looks like the buyer is already tired of it.
> https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/6132632566.html
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Re: [MBZ] eBay W111

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

I've been trying to digitize a lot of my life. Buying eBooks, Digital
Videos, MP3 Albums and recycling things as they get replaced. My house is
still fairly packed, but it is getting *much* better. Except for computers.
I do seem to pick up one new of those every year.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s “Dan’s Law of Storage Relativity”, which states:
>
> “No matter what the size of the living area, the amount of personal crap
> will always expand to exceed the available space.”
>
> I am so, so happy that we only lived it the 4,000SF house in Indiana for
> about two years.  I can’t imagine what it would have been like after 4-5
> years.
>
> Years ago I was horribly sentimental about stuff.  The wife straightened
> me out after a move or two.  I am so glad she did.  And I don’t collect
> anything, thank goodness.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 17, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is it like the one from Back to the Future? I need one of those for the
> > DeLorean (that I don't have yet either, but I know a guy.)
> >
> > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm decluttering now, we've been in our house 10 years and its full. The
> >> all-American thing to do is to get a bigger house, instead I'm getting
> rid
> >> of stuff. Anybody want a box of stuff? Rich and Phillip and OK Don have
> all
> >> gotten boxes from me in the past, you think you're getting one thing but
> >> the box includes a whole bunch of other stuff too...
> >> I have a computer box (a big box a computer came in) on the porch full
> of
> >> stuff that we don't want but haven't yet gotten to the Salvation Army.
> >> Probably got 5 times that much stuff to go. It bothers me that last
> year I
> >> took a pickup truck load to the SA and could do it again...
> >> Anybody want an HDV camcorder? JVC brand, works good.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:17 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay W111
> >>
> >> The sad part is you spend your life collecting things, or organizing
> >> things or whatever, then when you die it all probably gets thrown away.
> For
> >> example my grandmother used to record music off the radio and had a
> massive
> >> cassette collection and had it all catalogued so you should look for
> >> whatever song you wanted and it would tell you want tape. She also had a
> >> bunch of tv shows on VHS she used to record. When she died to took all
> that
> >> stuff and had it for many years piled up. When we moved I ended up
> tossing
> >> It all. It was hard to do but I just could not justify moving it again.
> >> Same with belongings that might not be really worth anything but you
> loved.
> >> It will just get tossed.  I'm sure all my stuff will when I pass on.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] eBay W111

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Is it like the one from Back to the Future? I need one of those for the
DeLorean (that I don't have yet either, but I know a guy.)

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm decluttering now, we've been in our house 10 years and its full. The
> all-American thing to do is to get a bigger house, instead I'm getting rid
> of stuff. Anybody want a box of stuff? Rich and Phillip and OK Don have all
> gotten boxes from me in the past, you think you're getting one thing but
> the box includes a whole bunch of other stuff too...
> I have a computer box (a big box a computer came in) on the porch full of
> stuff that we don't want but haven't yet gotten to the Salvation Army.
> Probably got 5 times that much stuff to go. It bothers me that last year I
> took a pickup truck load to the SA and could do it again...
> Anybody want an HDV camcorder? JVC brand, works good.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay W111
>
> The sad part is you spend your life collecting things, or organizing
> things or whatever, then when you die it all probably gets thrown away. For
> example my grandmother used to record music off the radio and had a massive
> cassette collection and had it all catalogued so you should look for
> whatever song you wanted and it would tell you want tape. She also had a
> bunch of tv shows on VHS she used to record. When she died to took all that
> stuff and had it for many years piled up. When we moved I ended up tossing
> It all. It was hard to do but I just could not justify moving it again.
> Same with belongings that might not be really worth anything but you loved.
> It will just get tossed.  I'm sure all my stuff will when I pass on.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 17, 2017, at 11:45 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't understand the "retire and mold away" thing, though I've seen
> it. i
> > am retired and have way more than I can get to. There is NO shortage of
> > things to keep me busy. I cringe it when we have to go visit kids across
> > the country - I don't have time to leave!
> > I have an  airplane to maintain, another to finish building, two porches
> to
> > re-build and another one that needs to be built, a green house to design
> > and build, re-model the home office with lots of built-in shelving and
> > cabinets, the kitchen to re-model, etc. I don't think I'll ever get
> around
> > to scanning and cataloging the 50,000 or so slides and negatives. The
> list
> > just keeps growing.
> > When I was still working, one retiree came back after a year. I asked
> why,
> > and he said that he flunked retirement.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Going to need knowledge on that flash to 2,1 thing soon.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> We have two MP 1,1 units that I flashed to 2,1 firmware, into which I
> installed 2x4-core 3GHz CPU's and HD4870 video cards and 16GB of
> RAM, running El Capitan.  They run hot, of course, as in up to 350W or so,
> but only when somebody is doing something, which is not many hours in a
> week.  They are only two of the many Time Machine clients of the G4.
>  (There are also 3 Macbook Pro laptops aimed at it, and the old G5 quad
> that my son is using.  So that makes for seven total Time Machine targets
> currently on the G4's RAID.  There are two inactive targets that I have not
> yet removed, the retired G5's.)  All three of the cheese graters have 30"
> monitors on them.  None of this stuff is any newer than 10 years old, and
> is quite affordable, and running software that's only a bit over a year
> old.  (Except for the G5 quad, and the G4 itself.)
>
> You can't predict when somebody will want some computing done, and I want
> the machines to be in charge of their own backup schedules, which they
> currently are.  So we can't put the server on a timer.  It's also our
> personal web site server, so there's that too.
>
> Everybody always says that you have to put RAM sticks in the MP's in
> pairs.  Turns out you don't.  The proposed server is running happily with
> only one 4GB stick in it.  I don't know if that slows it down, I don't
> care.  If I could downclock the FSB I would, just to save power.  I think
> it's the single biggest suck in the unit, measured with my fingers.
> There's no way that it wouldn't be significantly faster than the G4, no
> matter what I could do to it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Old school XServe RAID:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/xserve/specs/xserve_raid_sfp.html
Need a fiber card, but it holds 14 drives.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> Primary service is SATA RAID.  For the Time Machine backups from all the
> other computers.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Best thing about using a laptop as a server? Built in UPS.

EdB

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> Can a MacBook serve as a server?
> Does it draw less power than the desktops?
> Or does an external drive defeat the power savings?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Servers

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Just bought a 1,1 that is wheeling its way to me as we speak. (From
Michigan to Indiana with an estimated arrival of Tuesday, so maybe it is
walking.) I plan to go full on the other direction and strip down the
system I call beast currently running 2 quad core xeons for eight cores and
16 GB of RAM. Maybe I'll even put in a second CD drive. I'll take all that
power you aren't using.

Seriously though, I wouldn't enable wake on LAN if you are going to use the
thing as any type of server. Either it will never sleep, because it is
receiving constant hellos from the rest of the network, or it will take
*seconds* to fully wake each time and your initial request to the server
may time out as it waits for it to wake, then you have to try reaching out
again, which would be annoying in my opinion. What is the power draw of the
equivalent Xeon XServe? Those were designed ground up to be headless
servers.

EdB

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> suitable replacement for the G4 Sawtooth that is our current file/web
> server.  Because it's 24x7 the power draw is a big issue.  The G4 is
> 35-40W, headless, but the best I can beat out of the MP is 97W.  That's
> with removing one of the two CPU's, putting in a very slow CPU (1.6GHz
> L5113) for the other one, cutting the RAM to the bone, removing the video
> and even the DVD drive.  I even tried putting in 533MHz RAM, which made no
> difference.  The biggest power users are the Northbridge and the FB-DIMM
> RAM.  Unless I can find a way to actually underclock the thing I think the
> project is a no go.  Unless you can have it asleep most of the time, and
> wake on service requests over Ethernet?
> I hear that's theoretically possible, but maybe in practice it stinks?
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Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan

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Yeah, see, I do think that there will be a tipping point and moving forward
*all* new cars will be electrically driven. The electric motors are just
too good at low end torque and such. However, I think the full on electrics
like Tesla will still be the rare bird and the fully electric, yet gas
generated hybrids like Chevy Volts will be the dominant factors.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:26 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> All vehicles will be electric by 2025, says expert
>
> No more petrol or diesel cars, buses, or trucks will be sold anywhere in
> the world within eight years. The entire market for land transport will
> switch to electrification, leading to a collapse of oil prices and the
> demise of the petroleum industry as we have known it for a century.
>
> This is the futuristic forecast by Stanford University economist Tony
> Seba. His report, with the deceptively bland title Rethinking
> Transportation 2020-2030, has gone viral in green circles and is causing
> spasms of anxiety in the established industries.
> Tesla Model S electric car
> Tesla's electric cars have the power of elite super-cars at a fraction of
> the purchase cost, and one tenth the running cost
>
> Prof Seba’s premise is that people will stop driving altogether. They will
> switch en masse to self-drive electric vehicles (EVs) that are ten times
> cheaper to run than fossil-based cars, with a near-zero marginal cost of
> fuel and an expected lifespan of 1m miles
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/05/14/petrol-
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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

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There was an auction ... in Indiana ... that isn't Mecum this week?!

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> Buddy of mine is at an auto auction in Auburn, IN. $2500 or best.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] E300D Arrives!

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However, conspicuously keep the "coffee can" out of all of them.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Don't forget to sent photos, especially of the engine.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 12, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think someone broke the law
> >
> > My 95 E300D is already here (it left PHX on Wednesday.)  Just got a call
> from the driver. He will be at the drop off point later this morning.
> >
> > Now that's service!  Let the Martha'ing begin!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Was $950 Firm last weekend...

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The most expensive Mercedes model, is a cheap Mercedes. It has been hooned
and unmaintained, run! Though have to admit, I'd almost be willing to make
a run to Lansing to pick that thing up and set it next to the W110.

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> I'd rather have an ML from this century, but for this price I'm starting
> to consider it...
>
> https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/6124715214.html
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Re: [MBZ] Dang It Again W110

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Just got to make sure I'm following the story properly!

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Yes it is.  I’m looking for a W110/111/112, essentially any fintail bodied
> car.  I didn’t call out the 230S as a W110 - that is the car in DC that’s a
> 200 - it’s a W110.
>
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Re: [MBZ] AC recharge

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Yup, evacuate the system, bring to full vacuum, then inject as much fairy
dust as you can get your hands on. That crap is magical! Also heard it can
take you back in time.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:46 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I am thinking I hit the lottery with my w126 diesels.  They both seem to
> want to make cold happen when I adjust the temp.  The SDL really tries to
> make cool air and does the high speed fan as well as the lower fan speed.
> The SD is at least trying to blow something, but does not do high fan in
> response to temp requests.
>
> The FLAPS has cold in a can, but I am not sure this is a good way to make
> it cold.  Should I not evacuate the system with a massive vacuum pump, test
> if for days on end, and then inject magical cold faery dust?   I do not
> even know if it uses R 134.
>
>
> clay
>
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> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] Dang It Again W110

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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Working a deal on a nice W110 (1966 200) in DC that I made an offer on
> last night.  Haven’t heard back from the seller yet.
>
> Saw a response later in the evening to a “Want to Buy” thread I started on
> PeachParts for a finnie.  The guy is in Orlando.  Called him last night
> after I had sent the offer to the guy in DC.  No answer.
>
> Got a text and email from the guy in Orlando around 1:00 am this morning.
> He has a 1966 230S he wants $500 more than the offer I made on the 1966 200
> in DC.  I could drive this car home and save the $1000+ it would cost me to
> transport a car from DC to Florida.
>

Isn't a "230S" technically a W111? My `66 W110 is just a 230  Right?


> When it rains it pours, I guess.  I’ll connect with the Orlando guy today
> and find out more.  He sent me one picture and the car looks pretty decent.
> I hate to say it, but I like the 200 better than the 230, mainly because
> the 200 is so plain.  The 200 has AC, too, don’t know if the 230 does or
> not.  Of course, AC on a 200 is sort of a joke, but….
>
> More as I know it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

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For reals? Slap down $7 large and walk away with a plate that is good
forever?

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:26 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> $7 in Arkansas, no renewal after that.
>
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Re: [MBZ] IT HAS BECOME A COLLECTABLE CAR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE SHOULD BEGIN APPRECIATING IN VALUE WITH TIME.

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So what I'm hearing is I need a ramshackle cabin in the middle of Nowhere,
WA that has a property tax of $5 a year, but offers me a "Home Address"
then I can plate the car with "Only drive this once, maybe twice a year
plates" permanently ... and drive as much as I want here in Indiana. :)

(Which wouldn't actually work anyway, we have laws about the length of time
you can drive an out of state vehicle before you must get IN plates, but I
digress.)

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> >
> > Around here you can only drive classic plate cars to Special Events, or
> to
>
> the shop for repairs.  Registration is $100/yr. and there is no inspection.
> >
>
> Wow, nasty.  Here it's something like the regular cost for 1 year, but then
> never a fee again.
> And while you can't commute to work, pleasure jaunts of any sort are fine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another Kleb Coupe for Floyd

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I'm pretty sure, reading between the lines here, that the seller means:
"Git rid of the junk V8 that came from Hitlerville in here and drop in a
nice `Murican LS1 Yeehaw!"

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> What is a V8 conversion on a car with an existing V8?
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > oh damn you are killing me here.  Go buy it, put in the flex disk, and
> > flip it so some playa
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/10/17 9:55 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6099632217.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 98 PORCHE BOXER $950 O.B.O

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Is that a flood car? Because I see a flood car.

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Kleb needs to expand his German car passions
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6125485075.html
>
> ENGINE RUNS BUT NEEDS WIRING HARNESS
>
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> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] I had intentions of old school pin stripping it just to make all the Mercedes guru's Cringe. LOL

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I am agog, Sir. Simply agog at the prospects of pictures for this fine
automobile.

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> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6070642313.html
>
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Car Transporters

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Where is the car sitting again? Was it AZ?

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Holy mother of pearl, trying to find a transport company to move this car
> is like trying to buy a new TV.  You’re faced with literally hundreds of
> choices and no decent way to vet them in a reasonable period of time.  That
> and nearly all of them are brokers, so you’re not even dealing with the
> people who are moving your car.
>
> My brain hurts.
>
> Anyone have some direct experience with a car transporter company?
>
> Oy.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Car Transporters

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If it is that competitive, they'll take the $500.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Bids so far have been stupid, like $1000.  There are published rates that
> are in the $750 range with well rated carriers that are local to me in
> Florida.  If I don’t get a decent bid by the end of the day I’ll take one
> of their offers and be done with it.
>
> Jeez, this is a really a PITA.  These people are like cockroaches.  They
> spam and bombard you with calls and emails - it must be stupid competitive.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem comes in when you get a good offer from a broker, who tells
> you he can ship your car, but what that really means is he hopes he can
> find a carrier that will haul it for $200 less than he quoted you, and you
> accept the offer and nobody on the carrier side accepts but the broker
> keeps you in the dark...
> >
> > I never figured out what the need was for brokers, or why they often
> expect to net more profit off the transaction than the carrier does...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Go for the Gold

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Agreed. Would love to see pics, and GoPro Vid. Completely document the
entire journey. Then edit that video into a professional looking "episode"
and upload to a new YouTube channel "Clay'll Paint It!"

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Take some pix, before / after would be great!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:42 AM, clay via Mercedes 
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>
> > Figured I may as well bite the bullet and see how much goodness I could
> > bestow upon Allen.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] FLASH SALE!

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But I only have tree fiddy!!

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $10,000.00
>
> < chuckle >
>
> I’m not “trying” to sell it, I AM selling it.
>
> In reality, I have no idea.  It’s a moot point now, as the car is in a no
> reserve auction on BAT, so it’s going to sell at the gavel no matter what.
>
> Interested?  Bid on it.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 2, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So you sold he SEL and now you are trying to sell the 300D? How much do
> you realistically want for the 300D?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

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Ooo ... tricksy hobbitses.

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 8:11 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Rustoleum makes marine paint too.
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message --------From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-05-02  6:28 AM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Ed Booher <
> edboo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!
> Rustoleum? That's so 10 years ago. All the cool kids use marine paint now.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Paint my Benz!

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Rustoleum? That's so 10 years ago. All the cool kids use marine paint now.

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> Rustoleum
>
> RB
>
> On 01/05/2017 5:21 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Since I am working my way to getting Allen looking pretty again, I
>> decided to talk to the boys at the paint shop.  Wesco, who reps PPG paints.
>>
>> I thought there was some form of highway robbery associated with body
>> shops and getting your rig all prettied up.  Maybe there is, but the cost
>> of product is atrocious.  There is all manner of “REAL” paint that needs to
>> be applied, not just whip out your HVLP guns and blast away.  And the
>> amount of paint needed seems excessive, but may not be.
>>
>> Gold paint, by the gallon, starts at $700, but will be more, “”Fo’
>> Sho’”.  That will give me three coats and just enough for touch up.  But
>> first I need a primer sealer for a few hundred $$.  Then some reducers and
>> other fluids cost more dollars, before I can even shoot three coats of
>> clear.  That needs catalyst for the gallon that will give me three coats.
>> All this chemical goodness has an entry price of at least $1600.  And that
>> does not include the booth, guns, filters, swabbing cloths and other
>> product.
>>
>> The sales rep was nice enough to come out and look the car over.  We
>> chatted about what I had done and what the original paint was like.   He
>> was happy the original coating was in good enough condition, so that I do
>> not need to strip it all the way to bare metal.  Doing the glazing putty
>> was done passably, so I just need to sand down through the primer and color
>> I put on, then do all the magical paint application.
>>
>> Now I have to decide if i call Maaco for their Premier service, or spend
>> more than that would cost to screw it up myself.
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] FLASH SALE!

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Did she sell well?

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Going to take one more swing at moving the 1990 300SEL.  Got it on CL for
> $3500 this weekend, which I think is really pushing the envelope
> value-wise, but given the time and effort put into it is reasonable, I
> think, based on what the seller will end up with.
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6108616626.html
>
> I’ll sell it to anyone on the list for $3200 and toss in the Euro
> headlights, trim panels and the spray can of custom matched Tower Paint to
> paint the trim panels to match the body color.
>
> Got a Flickr album for it, too:
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskTZiBDt
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] And it hit like a ton of bricks

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What I'm hearing is, if I get a $30K resto done on my 66, I can trade up
for a nice 123? Sweet!

Edd

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> Trust me, you can’t afford it.  Unless you come up with a really nice
> finnie to swap for it.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 26, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure why, or how, but I'm sitting here scrolling Craigslist and
> I see a 123 300d turbo. I am over 123's. All the sudden I am taken back to
> my teens and early 20's when I drove 123s and the urge for a 82-85 300d
> just hit hard. Damn. Guess I'm looking for a car. I probably need poos's
> car.
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Re: [MBZ] The Crack is Very Strong With This One

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Ha! That is a money laundering set up there. Seller has a feedback score of
2, and the item is no longer available.

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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/182545246548?ul_noapp=true <
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/182545246548?ul_noapp=true>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Looking at pickups ...

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

I tend to stick with Ford as they are easy to work on and parts are cheap.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I'm thinking about exchanging our '89 Chevy G20 Beauville van for a
> pickup and ran across:
>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/6077314895.html
> '93 chevy cheyanne 1500 - $1800 (Moriarty)
>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/6056185421.html
> 1977 Chevrolet Truck - $1995
>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/6070130821.html
> 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 - $2000
>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/6087518826.html
> 1997 f 150 4x4 - $2000
>
> Which one should I pick or avoid?
>
> Why?
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. I'm leaning toward the '77
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Re: [MBZ] BDub dizzels

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Pictures or it didn't happen. :)

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> Now, there will be two Moonrock silver Beatles with beige tops and
> interiors in town, and they will both be in my driveway!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL Fun

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So what I'm hearing is my offer of $500 has been rejected. It's fine man, I
can take it. I'm only a man! Flesh and blood! It'll be alright.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Took some time to look closely at the front suspension at lunch today.
> Good news!
>
> The lower ball joints are intact and tight.  There was all sorts of cruft
> covering them, giving them the appearance of leaking grease.  I cleaned
> them off and checked them closely and they’re intact with no cracks or
> damage. Good and tight, too.
>
> The upper control arm joints are the culprit for the occasional noise I’m
> hearing when turning.  They’re shot, at least the boots are.  The right
> side is almost completely torn off, the left side just cracked with some
> small tears, but it’s definitely open to the elements.  I used my grease
> injector to push as much grease as I could into both as a stop gap measure,
> but I’ll be ordering the control arms today.
>
> This is great news, as it means I’ll probably keep the car and pass it
> along to the eldest boy.  I’ll do the upper control arms and fix the left
> rear window and gas door lock and the car will be pretty much complete.
> I’ve read up on the CIS duty cycle adjustment some more and I’m planning on
> checking that out tonight to see how close it is to spec.
>
> Cool.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL For Sale

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Sounds great! I'll give you $500 for it. Can you hold it for me until next
month, when I can start paying you $50 a quarter for it? Great! Thanks.

EdB.

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> Just for grins I put the 300SEL for sale on CL. If I can get a taker in
> the next week or two I’m doing it.  I’ve got some work related stuff that’s
> going to take a lot of my time in April, so if it’s still around once I get
> past that I’ll be taking on the front end rebuild.
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6060825853.html
>
> Personally, I think it’s a great deal and will sell quickly. We’ll see.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] CL crackhead photographer of the day

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G-d D@*% VPS!!  Turn your phone sideways!!

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6022485044.html
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

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An Intel Mac is an Intel PC. While Apple has added some customization to
the ROM with the EFI, it is still the base reference Intel EFI underneath.
As long as the GRUB you are using has the support for EFI in it you should
be able to boot. Also, GPT disks are usually a thing in the Apple world,
but I've got standard MBR disks to boot in my Mini. As I said in an earlier
post, though, I've had to install the Linux OS on a straight IBM PC and
transplant the disk.The Intel EFI will recognize the MBR and attempt to
boot it. Ran CentOS 6 on Mini for a while this way.

However, the Apple bit in the EFI is looking for GPT stuff, so *sometimes*
the Live CDs don't boot completely, or can't see the MBR disk once booted
because the Apple portion of the BIOS ROM didn't pass off the HDD as
available because it wasn't GPT. I haven't looked at it real low level or
anything, so I'm not 100% sure where the hiccups start happening. I just
know that I was jaw dropped surprised when I took a disk from a failed
CentOS 6 laptop and dropped into the Mini with a dead HDD that I looked
away to find a disk to boot Mac OS X with and came back to my login prompt
on CentOS 6.

I've used the workaround / trick a couple times since.

EdB

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> Puppy is a good, lightweight distro, I've used it a lot as a portable OS
> on a USB drive. Sadly Mac won't support that, or I've never gotten it to
> work anyway.
> Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

The proper response of course, is to drive the rusty 126 to Kaleb's
"hinterlands" and do the full engine swap there. Then drive home. No
trailering of non-rusty body needed.

EdB

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> costs too much to move them from the hinterlands where you live to where I
> live.
>
> clay via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2017 at 9:49 PM
>> Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to
>> the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on CL that
>> just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There are too few
>> buyers with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.
>>
>> clay
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Macbook linux?

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Curley,

Are you sure it is a Core 2? The spec list I'm looking at lists the
processor for a MacBook 1,1 as a Core Duo 1.83 13". That also explains the
2GB RAM cap, the Core Duo's were 32-Bit processors. Technically if you
could get the motherboard to recognize the DIMM it should be able to
address up to 3GB, but there is also the limitation of the 32-Bit EFI BIOS.

So, linux wise, you may want to go as lightweight as possible. Usually I
recommend Elementary OS because it is very Mac like in usage. But it is
also a bit graphics heavy so you might get annoyed with some of the
slowness. A very large amount of the distros today are based around the
Ubuntu base image, which is itself based on Debian. Debian has always had a
huge following. The other major distro would be the RPM style, Fedora
based. CentOS, Red Hat and the like. Someone else mentioned Mint, it is
also an Ubuntu based lightweight distro so would be another good choice.

Though I think you'd probably want to look at something like Lubuntu. It
runs LXDE as the desktop, so doesn't give a lot of the graphics heavy stuff
most new OSes seem to like. It has minimum specs of a P4 and 1GB of RAM, so
will run on the MacBook hardware.

I'll tell you though, I have not had much luck installing Linux directly on
Apple hardware for some reason. Always seem to get a hiccup, so your
mileage may vary. However, I have had luck installing Linux on a more IBM
styled PC system, getting GRUB loaded, yanking the disk and dropping back
in the Mac and watching it boot. Which is really wild, so if you try to
install direct and run into a lot of headaches, maybe do the initial
install on a IBM PC system and see if that works.

EdB

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> I have SWMBO's former Macbook 1,1  Core 2 1.8; 2 Gb Ram (max) with recent
> HD and battery.  Looks like now it is tough to sell one for even $100 on
> the bay of fleas.  Perhaps it is time to load some flavor of linux on it?
> What flavor would you guys recommend?  Sort of a Ed B or Looey Don question.
>
> In looking at the bay of fleas, it appears el crap might run on it  or can
> be hacked to run on it.  Anybody got experience with this?
>
> It is only worth 50-$75, I may as well keep it an use it as a shop
> computer or some such.
>
> I guess I shoulda put winders 10 virus magnet on it while that was still
> free.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gnome 3 and Linux Desktop Managers

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Eh. Don't worry about learning how to monkey under the hood. As far as
desktop is concerned, you don't *have* to. You just have to choose the
distribution that runs easiest for you. Personally, as far as desktop *NIX
is concerned, Elementary OS is maturing very fast. They are trying very
hard to be the Mac equivalent for Linux. Which means you are needing to
know less and less "under the hood" as they give you graphical
replacements. Which for a desktop is great. Keeping RHEL on my servers,
though.

EdB

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> All reasons why I have not been comfortable moving to linux.  Lots of
> monkeying around under the hood in a language I don't know, and have little
> interest in learning.
>
> Craig via Mercedes 
>> February 17, 2017 at 11:40 PM
>>
>> You may recall my abortive attempt last year to update to a new version
>> of CentOS so I can run current versions of browsers. I just could not get
>> Gnome 3 to work like Gnome 2 I have been using for years.
>>
>> I found some interesting comments about this situation at
>>
>> http://www.osnews.com/story/27160/What_s_Happening_with_User_Interfaces_
>>
>> It has an introduction to the situation, mentioning Windows 8 and other
>> things and then says, among other things,
>>
>> GNOME 3 with the GNOME Shell
>>
>> When it was introduced in spring 2011, GNOME 3 abandoned the
>> traditional desktop design of GNOME 2 in favor of the new GNOME Shell.
>> The GNOME shell is superficially somewhat similar to Unity (though the
>> two are diverging over time). Both present a new style of desktop
>> interaction influenced by mobile devices. As with Unity, some liked
>> the new GNOME desktop paradigm, but others didn't and it caused quite
>> a controversy. Linus Torvalds famously criticized it and switched
>> from GNOME 3 and its shell to Xfce. Then, as the product rapidly
>> improved, he went back to GNOME. Tons of extensions and packages like
>> the GNOME Tweak Tool smoothed the way. Computers that couldn't boot
>> GNOME 3's new graphics ran a Fallback mode that was reminiscent of
>> GNOME 2.
>>
>> GNOME 3.8 was announced in May. It includes a new Classic mode "...for
>> those who prefer a more traditional desktop experience." Classic mode
>> replaces Fallback mode. Through Classic mode, the GNOME team addresses
>> those who dislike its new interface. The goal is to continue with the
>> new desktop while keeping users who want a traditional system in the
>> fold. My guess is that most will judge GNOME on the basis of its
>> enhanced version 3 design, which today many like. Those who want a
>> traditional UI have probably already left the GNOME Shell for
>> alternatives. In any case, the GNOME project remains vitally important
>> to the free software movement in its support of many dozen tools and
>> applications.
>>
>> Maybe I should follow the comment, "Those who want a traditional UI have
>> probably already left the GNOME Shell for alternatives."
>>
>> The article also says,
>>
>> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE
>>
>> With the drastic changes in some UIs, interfaces that have remained
>> true to the traditional desktop metaphor have gained in popularity.
>> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE innovate within the context of this
>> long-established paradigm. Xfce is well polished and much faster than
>> when I first tried it with Xubuntu several years ago. Today it really
>> flies on my Mint systems. You can customize it by adding icons to its
>> desktop or quick launch panel as easily as you can in Windows. LXDE
>> features a highly-modular design with independent, plug-and-play
>> components. Together with its fast apps, LXDE has become the
>> lightweight default interface for several distros including Knoppix,
>> Lubuntu, and Raspbian. MATE continues the GNOME 2 heritage and
>> incrementally improves it with new features and themes. Several
>> distros have adopted MATE instead of GNOME 3.
>>
>> Xfce, LXDE, and MATE will run on mature computers. The newer UIs
>> require state-of-the-art graphics hardware. These include current
>> releases of GNOME (with 3.8's elimination of Fallback mode), Ubuntu
>> (with 12.10's dropping of Unity 2D), and Cinnamon (which requires 3D
>> acceleration).
>>
>> So, it sounds like MATE might be a possibility ...
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Dang! A Bucket List Car...

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

VW Bug is still sold in this country, and I see them everywhere. Hell, I
own one.

EdB

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> You do have to consider that the VW bug was sold in this country for almost
> 40 years with very minor changes. A cheby sedan changed considerably in
> that time frame.
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Re: [MBZ] Dang! A Bucket List Car...

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The DeLorean? Runs a PRV-6 The PRV stands for Peugeot, Renault, Volvo. This
engine is in cars all over the place, so parts are still readily available
for it.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> It used a pretty decent Buick engine, didn't it?
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Feb 17, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Like I said earlier, quality control for those cars was horrible. To
> daily
> > drive one you *must* properly sort it. Which means taking it to DMC and
> > give them a dump truck full of money. As a grand tourer, once sorted,
> they
> > are actually wonderful cars. Been part of DeLorean groups for a while, so
> > know some people that for them it is their only car. Getting to that
> point
> > took a lot of time and effort though.
> >
> > EdB
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