Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
Here is my business plan that I TRY to stick to. Auctions always end on thursday, I work on shipping stuff saturday or sunday, and have a batch of USPS pickup on Monday, and a fedex pickup on tuesday. If somebody doesnt pay by then then there item goes out the next week. Sometimes I get really busy and may miss a week myself, which is why clearly say in my auctions that if you needed the part yesterday buy new, and allow up 14 business days domestic, 45 for international. I usually only do international 1 time a month. The rest of the week Im at work and have to squeeze in rounding up new items to list, getting cars stripped etc the rest of the time. Steve MacSween wrote: This is a good point. People buying on eBay have become increasingly impatient to have their stuff NOW. It's become markedly worse over the last year. I have to deal with it more than most of you, as shipping from Canada takes 2-3x your domestic time. There is a good reason you will see disclaimers in some listings reading something like sellers are not responsible for transit time (comes up automatically when you specify your shipping cost, in the listing). What people fail to grasp is that buying from Kaleb or me on eBay isn't the same as ordering from Amazon.com or some other mail-order outlet with a dedicated shipping department that cranks stuff out the next day and probably gets bulk pickups from USPS. I TRY to ship within 48 hours of payment, but it often takes five to eight days for me to get the item packed and to the post office. I've followed this thread on and off and frankly I'm not devestated by what happened. The seller tried a cheesy ploy and got nailed. Who knows, this may be a 17-year-old selling this stuff. On the 1-10 scale of possible eBay FUBARs, this barely gets beyond 2. mac on 7/28/06 12:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not talking about luther, but I run across people ALL the time who will bitch about ANYTHING. They didnt like the box, they didnt like the tape. They wanted bubble wrap. Was your item damaged? NO? Then why bitch? OR its not delivered quick enough for them. I put in all my auctions to allow up to 14 BUSINESS days for delivery, and dont email asking where your item is before that time. This is in case I get busy and get behind. Bob DuPuy wrote: I know I should be taking my own advice and let it go, life is too short, but.. It is not the ebay seller that is the bad actor here but the buyer. Kaleb take note. If Luther ever orders a used part from you even if he you give him a great deal, he'll likely find something to bitch about. There is a little too much schadenfreude in the reaction below for my taste. Oh and by the way mail fraud is not trying to get over on the post office for a couple bucks, but defruading another individual through the use of the postal service. Bob DuPuy going back to skim and delete mode ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
In fact there was an email from eBay just the other day talking about that and that they intend to shift back to what was originally intended. I'll believe it when I see it... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:40:57 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Steve MacSween wrote: This is a good point. People buying on eBay have become increasingly impatient to have their stuff NOW. It's become markedly worse over the last year. I have to deal with it more than most of you, as shipping from Canada takes 2-3x your domestic time. I think the underlying problem here is that eBay has encouraged the creation of a lot of fixed-price stores. It's really changed the character of it, because a lot of them are commercial operations that are using eBay instead of setting up their own e-commerce site. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 29 00:59:52 2006 Received: from bay0-omc2-s28.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.164]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G6dBI-0007xH-FP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:59:52 + Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.229.85]) by bay0-omc2-s28.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:59:42 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:59:42 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.120.55.28 by BAY110-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:59:41 + X-Originating-IP: [71.120.55.28] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:59:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2006 00:59:42.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[465D9380:01C6B2AA] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:59:52 - Pretty much looks like we could have an eBay forum too.. Probably get as much or more traffic than Biodiesel does, 'cept when things get political... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and theyre always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a sensor is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. Censor is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I cant find the word rediculous in the dictionary. I know this is a stupid cliché, but Ill offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week.
Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I agree. THough last time I used USPS, I could order the tape and stickers for free as well. But that was a while ago... (: Levi On 7/29/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They got rid of the tape but you can still get all of the stickers, even long ones that make decent tape. I used to order tons of the tape and I heard allot of other people did too. Was likely costing them too much for that. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update I agree. THough last time I used USPS, I could order the tape and stickers for free as well. But that was a while ago... (: Levi On 7/29/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http
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never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. I guess I said that wrong. I get 1.5% of the purchases I make so it really works out to 50% of the Paypal fees I get back. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update I agree. THough last time I used USPS, I could order the tape and stickers for free as well. But that was a while ago... (: Levi On 7/29/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What sort of items do you sell? I sure hope its not used Mercedes parts :) Brian Smyla wrote: Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they’re always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a ‘sensor’ is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. ‘Censor’ is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can’t find the word ‘rediculous’ in the dictionary. I know this is a ‘stupid’ cliché’, but I’ll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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I use the free priority boxes for items that only weight a couple of lbs, up to about 3, or parcel post. For items over that, fedex is cheaper. Mike Canfield wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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they dont have the tape anymore I dont think Levi Smith wrote: I agree. THough last time I used USPS, I could order the tape and stickers for free as well. But that was a while ago... (: Levi On 7/29/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD
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Not if they will fit in a Flat Rate box for $8.10 anywhere, any weight. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update I use the free priority boxes for items that only weight a couple of lbs, up to about 3, or parcel post. For items over that, fedex is cheaper. Mike Canfield wrote: I'm not trying to be smart here but you guys really need to rethink your shipping. There is no reason at all to buy boxes! No reason to buy packing materials other than tape. Get on the USPS website, sign up and have them ship to you, AT NO CHARGE, as many Priority Mail boxes you want in all different sizes and shapes. Free newspapers from the local blab make great packing material AT NO CHARGE but to go pick it up. Customers never complain about price and speed when the item arrives in less than a week even if I don't get it shipped out for a couple days or so. Flat rate boxes can make things very easy for you as they can be used for anything that fits in them regardless of weight and only costs $8.10 for delivery anywhere in the USA, even PR and HI. No need for a spreadsheet and such, just a bit of common sense that says you better cover yourself on the fees so start all auctions at no less than $2.99. You may not make a cent on that item but as long as you ship it promptly you will gain more positive feedback. Allot of positive feedback gets you better bids. Comments from buyers about how fast the shipping is gets you ALLOT more bids. I do all of my auctions from my laptop and hand write the labels to save costs. Used to keep all sorts of books and such but E-bay has made things so easy to deal with that I don't even need the book at the end of the year to file my taxes. Just pull up the sales for the year, print them out and go. Anyone who whines about the measly fees that E-Bay and Paypal charge have never tried to run a business elsewhere for the same costs. It won't happen. Consider also that I get 1.5% of my fees back just for using my Paypal debit card. Mike - Original Message - From: Brian Smyla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Had to add my $0.02 here.. I earn a significant portion of my income from ebay sales, and have been selling on ebay for the last 8 years. All of my auctions include some sort of packaging fee, clearly stated in the auction text, and is usually no more than $20. I have to cover the cost of packaging materials and my time to get the items packaged. Only one percent of buyers complain, mainly because they failed to read the auction text, and they're always satisfied after they receive their item. And Luther.. a 'sensor' is something that you find on your engine that has wires sticking out of it. 'Censor' is when you leave dirty words out of your emails. And I can't find the word 'rediculous' in the dictionary. I know this is a 'stupid' cliché', but I'll offer it anyway: People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. :-) -brian ---original post: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:44:28 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5
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Guilty as charged. But it isn't necessarily to avoid eBay fees, it is to sell the item dirt cheap but not lose money on the legitimate fees. I think everyone knows what is happening when they bid. And I don't inflate too much, maybe $3 over actual costs. Nothing sucks as much as having an item go for a penny, charging actual mailing fees, and then losing money when eBay tacks on their costs. On 7/27/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
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This can be sticky and sometimes completely innocent. Brand new OM606IP I recently bought on german ebay with the intention of trading for a rebuild to go into my '87 wagon was weeks arriving even though I'd paid for 'express' shipping. Turned out it got to US customs quick time at which point it was transfered from Deutsch Post to the good ol' USPS (w/ no tracking) for final delivery. Took about 3 weeks to get from JFK to me after taking no time at all to get to JFK from the fatherland. SNAFU is to be expected whenever those idiots get into the act. Left me a little red faced for the - albeit goot natured I'll warrant - grief I gave the seller in the interim, especially after I'd determined that it'd have cost ~$250 to ship the thing FedEx or DHL instead of the EUR50 I paid for DP. -j
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YHAW, I Like. A totally different way to bust his @!!$ :D :D :D :D I just reported 10 of his auctions as excessive shipping and handling charges. All of them were at least double and likely triple the true charges. That'll keep him busy for a while http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfcoZ1QQfrppZ25QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZthedoublem On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:51:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been ignoring this discussion, but http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200606270927042.html deals with something like it -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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Not that I ever deal with ebay much, I have to wonder what they hell that guy was thinking asking $65 for shipping!!! Seriously, how big can a DVD burner be? Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:07:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update he actually committed mail fraud, which is a federal offense. Just realize that sooner or later, he'll get what's coming to him. On 7/27/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Bob. Life is too short to worry about small matters. Stress like this is not good for you. You got the item. You are happy with it. The poor guy tried to save a buck and got caught. He paid the extra money and got it shipped out again didn't he. You had a few days of wondering where it was but it did show up. Could have been a whole lot worse. Why worry now? Relax, have a cold one, get on with life. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know I should be taking my own advice and let it go, life is too short, but.. It is not the ebay seller that is the bad actor here but the buyer. Kaleb take note. If Luther ever orders a used part from you even if he you give him a great deal, he'll likely find something to bitch about. There is a little too much schadenfreude in the reaction below for my taste. Oh and by the way mail fraud is not trying to get over on the post office for a couple bucks, but defruading another individual through the use of the postal service. Bob DuPuy going back to skim and delete mode On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YHAW, I Like. A totally different way to bust his @!!$ :D :D :D :D I just reported 10 of his auctions as excessive shipping and handling charges. All of them were at least double and likely triple the true charges. That'll keep him busy for a while http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfcoZ1QQfrppZ25QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZthedoublem On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:51:48 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been ignoring this discussion, but http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200606270927042.html deals with something like it -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you really feel this deserves a bad feedback at least go with a neutral and an short explanation. If the item is good I'd not spend time and energy trying to mess him up. BillR [with 100% positive feedback - but all I do these days is buy] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update I agree with Bob. Life is too short to worry about small matters. Stress like this is not good for you. You got the item. You are happy with it. The poor guy tried to save a buck and got caught. He paid the extra money and got it shipped out again didn't he. You had a few days of wondering where it was but it did show up. Could have been a whole lot worse. Why worry now? Relax, have a cold one, get on with life. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd like to give a big banned reply to this message, but I have to sensor the message. he'll likely find something to bitch about. WTF is your reason for saying this? This seller tried to defraud the USPS by sending it Media Mail. That is illegal and he was busted by the USPS and they refused his package. He paid the difference in the shipping and it confused the USPS and caused my package to take 17 days to arrive to me. THAT IS REDICULIOUS! I should have had the drive over a week ago, were it not for his stupidity. I know for a FACT that Kaleb would NEVER do anything like this. GO back to your skim and delete and take a big cup of shut the %)(#%$)#%#%) up! Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know I should be taking my own advice and let it go, life is too short, but.. It is not the ebay seller that is the bad actor here but the buyer. Kaleb take note. If Luther ever orders a used part from you even if he you give him a great deal, he'll likely find something to bitch about. There is a little too much schadenfreude in the reaction below for my taste. Oh and by the way mail fraud is not trying to get over on the post office for a couple bucks, but defruading another individual through the use of the postal service. Bob DuPuy going back to skim and delete mode -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
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Luther Gulseth wrote: Luther, dealing with stupid men and women for the last week. Could you take your angst and childish antics to myspace.com and keep it off the lists, please? Thanks! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 272+kmi 1980 300TD 183+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi 1972 220 278+kmi
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Yeah I'm with both of them. If you wanted next day shipping and such buy it from a company. You wanna save money, expect slower shipping... -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:56:20 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I agree with Bob. Life is too short to worry about small matters. Stress like this is not good for you. You got the item. You are happy with it. The poor guy tried to save a buck and got caught. He paid the extra money and got it shipped out again didn't he. You had a few days of wondering where it was but it did show up. Could have been a whole lot worse. Why worry now? Relax, have a cold one, get on with life. Randy B - Groups are talking. Weacute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 28 15:48:10 2006 Received: from bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.153]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G6UZO-0001Ln-Gi for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:48:10 + Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.229.88]) by bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:48:02 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:48:02 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 71.120.55.28 by BAY110-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:47:58 + X-Originating-IP: [71.120.55.28] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:48:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2006 15:48:02.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[35829210:01C6B25D] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:48:10 - What about the second biggest auction site? My son-in-law buys and sells there. I forget its name. Gerry Precisely why people use eBay. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
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A brand new Pioneer A110 16x DVD burner from Tiger direct is $42.99... -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:11:22 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original You probably have enough time - although it sounds like you got a pretty good deal - but you'll have trouble telling what happened in the very few words allowed in the Feedback menu. I believe it's 80 characters - not enough to tell much of a story. Good luck with your $5 DVD drive - or is it a $70 DVD drive ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jul 28 16:05:55 2006 Received: from 70-184-20-28.atlasok.com ([70.184.20.28] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G6UqZ-0002sx-0B for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:05:55 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:05:55 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT new eBay shipping fraud-update X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:05:55 - You cant do that, its against the rules. That is why everyone pays more for shipping and handling even if they dont use paypal. Luther Gulseth wrote: you could pass that cost onto the buyer IF they want to use paypal. Make a disclaimer in the auction about it. Seller prefers Cashiers check or Money Order. If PayPal is used, total is subject to a 3% fee On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:08:11 -0500, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Not talking about luther, but I run across people ALL the time who will bitch about ANYTHING. They didnt like the box, they didnt like the tape. They wanted bubble wrap. Was your item damaged? NO? Then why bitch? OR its not delivered quick enough for them. I put in all my auctions to allow up to 14 BUSINESS days for delivery, and dont email asking where your item is before that time. This is in case I get busy and get behind. Bob DuPuy wrote: I know I should be taking my own advice and let it go, life is too short, but.. It is not the ebay seller that is the bad actor here but the buyer. Kaleb take note. If Luther ever orders a used part from you even if he you give him a great deal, he'll likely find something to bitch about. There is a little too much schadenfreude in the reaction below for my taste. Oh and by the way mail fraud is not trying to get over on the post office for a couple bucks, but defruading another individual through the use of the postal service. Bob DuPuy going back to skim and delete mode -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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This is a good point. People buying on eBay have become increasingly impatient to have their stuff NOW. It's become markedly worse over the last year. I have to deal with it more than most of you, as shipping from Canada takes 2-3x your domestic time. There is a good reason you will see disclaimers in some listings reading something like sellers are not responsible for transit time (comes up automatically when you specify your shipping cost, in the listing). What people fail to grasp is that buying from Kaleb or me on eBay isn't the same as ordering from Amazon.com or some other mail-order outlet with a dedicated shipping department that cranks stuff out the next day and probably gets bulk pickups from USPS. I TRY to ship within 48 hours of payment, but it often takes five to eight days for me to get the item packed and to the post office. I've followed this thread on and off and frankly I'm not devestated by what happened. The seller tried a cheesy ploy and got nailed. Who knows, this may be a 17-year-old selling this stuff. On the 1-10 scale of possible eBay FUBARs, this barely gets beyond 2. mac on 7/28/06 12:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not talking about luther, but I run across people ALL the time who will bitch about ANYTHING. They didnt like the box, they didnt like the tape. They wanted bubble wrap. Was your item damaged? NO? Then why bitch? OR its not delivered quick enough for them. I put in all my auctions to allow up to 14 BUSINESS days for delivery, and dont email asking where your item is before that time. This is in case I get busy and get behind. Bob DuPuy wrote: I know I should be taking my own advice and let it go, life is too short, but.. It is not the ebay seller that is the bad actor here but the buyer. Kaleb take note. If Luther ever orders a used part from you even if he you give him a great deal, he'll likely find something to bitch about. There is a little too much schadenfreude in the reaction below for my taste. Oh and by the way mail fraud is not trying to get over on the post office for a couple bucks, but defruading another individual through the use of the postal service. Bob DuPuy going back to skim and delete mode
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Steve MacSween wrote: This is a good point. People buying on eBay have become increasingly impatient to have their stuff NOW. It's become markedly worse over the last year. I have to deal with it more than most of you, as shipping from Canada takes 2-3x your domestic time. I think the underlying problem here is that eBay has encouraged the creation of a lot of fixed-price stores. It's really changed the character of it, because a lot of them are commercial operations that are using eBay instead of setting up their own e-commerce site.
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That's how they make the money selling the item for $5 and charging ridiculous price for shippingAvoids a ton of E-Bay fees if you sell alot. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Not that I ever deal with ebay much, I have to wonder what they hell that guy was thinking asking $65 for shipping!!! Seriously, how big can a DVD burner be? Harry 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:07:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update he actually committed mail fraud, which is a federal offense. Just realize that sooner or later, he'll get what's coming to him. On 7/27/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Bob. Life is too short to worry about small matters. Stress like this is not good for you. You got the item. You are happy with it. The poor guy tried to save a buck and got caught. He paid the extra money and got it shipped out again didn't he. You had a few days of wondering where it was but it did show up. Could have been a whole lot worse. Why worry now? Relax, have a cold one, get on with life. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
Remember this? So, I stopped by the USPS today and asked them about the package. I went into it expecting to take a few pictures proving that the seller short paid the shipping or sent it to the wrong address. It was a bit different. Turns out he tried to ship it Media Mail to save some 's on shipping. As if $65 wasn't enough already Anyway, Media Mail is subject to inspection, and they inspected the package and sent it back (because it wasn't media) to him to pay $2.19 extra for the shipping. That label for $2.19 made my post office think it was short paid on shipping when actually that was the second payment made on the shipping. He tried to save money on shipping, was busted, and my package arrived over a week late. That is shoddy! Now, what is the time frame for leaving feedback? I'm gonna negative him bad on this and would rather him not have a chance to levae me feedback. Can I do this? Luther original mesage Sat Jul 22 20:35:59 GMT 2006 UGH, so I emailed the seller and here's the reply. That was taken care of already. It's not being held at the post office. The package is now on the way. I apologize for the delay and the lack of communication on my part. You should receive the DVD burner no later than tuesday. SOOO, I'll see if it get's here On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:54:31 -0500, Luther Gulseth luther at gulseth.net wrote: this was clearly listed in the auction BEFORE I agreed to buy and pay for the auction so that was not the problem. On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:33:47 -0500, Michael lendzian at earthlink.net wrote: Yes, I have before too with an ebay purchase. I refused to pay the difference and he cancelled the purchase an refunded me my money. I asked the MORON 3 times over 3 DAYS what the correct price was. So I had to take the final EBAY PRICE and send that (which was not enough!) -MPL So, a package should have arrived today for me from an eBay auction but the seller short paid the shipping and I owe $6.10. HELL NO, I'm not paying this. Anyone ever dealt with this type of crap before? I'm tempted to reject the package and send it back and report Item not received. I'm exploring both PayPal and eBay's sites to see if they say anything about this. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
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Luther Gulseth wrote: Now, what is the time frame for leaving feedback? I'm gonna negative him bad on this and would rather him not have a chance to levae me feedback. Can I do this? It used to be 30 days. I think it's now been extended to 60. You might get lucky if you leave feedback on the last day and he doesn't notice right away.
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Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Remember this? So, I stopped by the USPS today and asked them about the package. I went into it expecting to take a few pictures proving that the seller short paid the shipping or sent it to the wrong address. It was a bit different. Turns out he tried to ship it Media Mail to save some 's on shipping. As if $65 wasn't enough already Anyway, Media Mail is subject to inspection, and they inspected the package and sent it back (because it wasn't media) to him to pay $2.19 extra for the shipping. That label for $2.19 made my post office think it was short paid on shipping when actually that was the second payment made on the shipping. He tried to save money on shipping, was busted, and my package arrived over a week late. That is shoddy! Now, what is the time frame for leaving feedback? I'm gonna negative him bad on this and would rather him not have a chance to levae me feedback. Can I do this? Luther original mesage Sat Jul 22 20:35:59 GMT 2006 UGH, so I emailed the seller and here's the reply. That was taken care of already. It's not being held at the post office. The package is now on the way. I apologize for the delay and the lack of communication on my part. You should receive the DVD burner no later than tuesday. SOOO, I'll see if it get's here On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:54:31 -0500, Luther Gulseth luther at gulseth.net wrote: this was clearly listed in the auction BEFORE I agreed to buy and pay for the auction so that was not the problem. On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:33:47 -0500, Michael lendzian at earthlink.net wrote: Yes, I have before too with an ebay purchase. I refused to pay the difference and he cancelled the purchase an refunded me my money. I asked the MORON 3 times over 3 DAYS what the correct price was. So I had to take the final EBAY PRICE and send that (which was not enough!) -MPL So, a package should have arrived today for me from an eBay auction but the seller short paid the shipping and I owe $6.10. HELL NO, I'm not paying this. Anyone ever dealt with this type of crap before? I'm tempted to reject the package and send it back and report Item not received. I'm exploring both PayPal and eBay's sites to see if they say anything about this. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
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Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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he actually committed mail fraud, which is a federal offense. Just realize that sooner or later, he'll get what's coming to him. On 7/27/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Bob. Life is too short to worry about small matters. Stress like this is not good for you. You got the item. You are happy with it. The poor guy tried to save a buck and got caught. He paid the extra money and got it shipped out again didn't he. You had a few days of wondering where it was but it did show up. Could have been a whole lot worse. Why worry now? Relax, have a cold one, get on with life. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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You probably have enough time - although it sounds like you got a pretty good deal - but you'll have trouble telling what happened in the very few words allowed in the Feedback menu. I believe it's 80 characters - not enough to tell much of a story. Good luck with your $5 DVD drive - or is it a $70 DVD drive ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update Remember this? So, I stopped by the USPS today and asked them about the package. I went into it expecting to take a few pictures proving that the seller short paid the shipping or sent it to the wrong address. It was a bit different. Turns out he tried to ship it Media Mail to save some 's on shipping. As if $65 wasn't enough already Anyway, Media Mail is subject to inspection, and they inspected the package and sent it back (because it wasn't media) to him to pay $2.19 extra for the shipping. That label for $2.19 made my post office think it was short paid on shipping when actually that was the second payment made on the shipping. He tried to save money on shipping, was busted, and my package arrived over a week late. That is shoddy! Now, what is the time frame for leaving feedback? I'm gonna negative him bad on this and would rather him not have a chance to levae me feedback. Can I do this? Luther original mesage Sat Jul 22 20:35:59 GMT 2006 UGH, so I emailed the seller and here's the reply. That was taken care of already. It's not being held at the post office. The package is now on the way. I apologize for the delay and the lack of communication on my part. You should receive the DVD burner no later than tuesday. SOOO, I'll see if it get's here On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:54:31 -0500, Luther Gulseth luther at gulseth.net wrote: this was clearly listed in the auction BEFORE I agreed to buy and pay for the auction so that was not the problem. On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:33:47 -0500, Michael lendzian at earthlink.net wrote: Yes, I have before too with an ebay purchase. I refused to pay the difference and he cancelled the purchase an refunded me my money. I asked the MORON 3 times over 3 DAYS what the correct price was. So I had to take the final EBAY PRICE and send that (which was not enough!) -MPL So, a package should have arrived today for me from an eBay auction but the seller short paid the shipping and I owe $6.10. HELL NO, I'm not paying this. Anyone ever dealt with this type of crap before? I'm tempted to reject the package and send it back and report Item not received. I'm exploring both PayPal and eBay's sites to see if they say anything about this. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/401 - Release Date: 7/26/2006
Re: [MBZ] new eBay shipping fraud-update
I have been ignoring this discussion, but http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200606270927042.html deals with something like it -- Original message -- From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geeze louise! Did you get your item? Did you pay a good price? If the guy wasn't trying to rip you off and just tried to save money on shipping, why try to burn him with bad feed back with no chance to respond. Suck it up, quit your bitching, and just move on. Life is too short. Bob DuPuy On 7/27/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flat rate shipping of $65. Price was BIN for $20 or best offer. I offered $5 and it was accepted. I'm not disputing the price I paid, which was less than every other auction for this DVD burner I loked at, I'm disupting the seller trying to save a few bucks at my time expense. Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Did the auction state actual shipping or was it flat rate? A lot of times, to avoid eBay fees, the seller inflates the shipping and states it is fixed. They only pay fees based on the selling price, not shipping. I always consider shipping as part of my bid price for comparable items and bid accordingly. Dave W -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
