Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Napmobile?  As in "nappy" or "take a nap"?


"Take a".  That LWB W126 is _comfy_ with the seat flopped back.
Sunshades in front and hang some blankets on the sides, and
yer in bidness.  I don't even put the seat back up on the
passenger side, unless I'm expecting one.  That's rare.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:33:06 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Way cool!  I really would like a "how to" write up to go with the 
> picture so i can do it WHEN needed (not if)...  or send it to some 
> one else if one of #1 daughter's cars need it since i am too far away 
> and since she is mechanically/electrically inept.

There isn't much to a "how to". I thought the first picture showing how
the terminals harvested from the old electronic flasher were hooked with
short lengths of 14 gauge wire to the new, mechanical flasher's terminals
(which conveniently have holes in them) was pretty self explanatory.

The only difficulty might be knowing where to connect the wired-up
terminals on the flasher socket. That's shown in the schematic attached
(a screen capture from the PDF Fred sent, cropped in the Gimp, and saved
as a GIF): The terminals connect to socket contacts 49 and 49a; polarity
doesn't matter. The old relay is labeled with which contacts are which.
They ended up being the two closest to each other; if you hold the bottom
of the relay so the plastic locating pin is up, the two contacts are on
the left.

Is that sufficient?


Craig

P.S. Soldering connections and using electrical tape would be advised; I
 did not because our household goods are packed up in a furniture van
 and I don't have access to them at the moment.
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:21:01 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Well then you've earned a Cathey with Oak leaf clusters, as well as
 an Attaboy from Wilton!

 Way to go!


Oh, wow!



 Is the original  flasher switch still used to turn on the 4 ways?  I
 didn't see it in your pictures.


One cannot tell it is not stock without removing the console cover and
seeing the flasher. One of the original pictures I sent should have shown
the emergency flasher switch.


Craig


Way cool!  I really would like a "how to" write up to go with the 
picture so i can do it WHEN needed (not if)...  or send it to some 
one else if one of #1 daughter's cars need it since i am too far away 
and since she is mechanically/electrically inept.


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:21:01 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well then you've earned a Cathey with Oak leaf clusters, as well as 
> an Attaboy from Wilton!
> 
> Way to go!

Oh, wow!


> Is the original  flasher switch still used to turn on the 4 ways?  I 
> didn't see it in your pictures.

One cannot tell it is not stock without removing the console cover and
seeing the flasher. One of the original pictures I sent should have shown
the emergency flasher switch.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds a bit like a former neighbor of mine.
> He had a diesel Jetta that was trying to overheat while he and his family
> were on holidays in the USA.
> He determined that the electric fan was not coming on but that the fan
> motor worked.
> If I recall, there was a problem with a relay.
> They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much available
> locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and a household
> light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the fan from inside
> the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix it properly.
>

I  did sommat similar with my 1980 Subaru BRAT, but did it proper with a
Radio Shack toggle switch and light under the dash.  When things got warm,
I hit the switch and the light reminded me to turn it off so as not to run
down the battery...

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Napmobile?  As in "nappy" or "take a nap"?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 3, 2015 12:40:08 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>I recently resoldered the lamp-out warning unit in the Napmobile.


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall


I was in Jackson WY, and the SDL was overheating.  I used a coat
hanger to bypass the thermostatic fan clutch.  It helped.  Got
us home OK, anyway.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown 
bulbs.


I recently resoldered the lamp-out warning unit in the Napmobile.
Cured its weird intermittent warning, which was actually an
intermittent rear side marker light, _in_ the LOWU.  Bad solder.
Again.  It wasn't the only one, but it was in the lead.  You go, VDO!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:39:32 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award!


Thank you.



 As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers.  Is that correct?


My emergency lights work correctly. The same flasher is used for both the
turn signals and the emergency lights.



 I always thought integrating the turn signals
 with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure
 it solves other problems, like feedback if both
 turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same
 time.


If you have a turn signal on and then turn on the emergency flasher
switch, the other turn signal comes on in time with the original turn
signal light.

Craig


Well then you've earned a Cathey with Oak leaf clusters, as well as 
an Attaboy from Wilton!


Way to go!

Is the original  flasher switch still used to turn on the 4 ways?  I 
didn't see it in your pictures.


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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:39:32 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award!

Thank you.


> As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers.  Is that correct?

My emergency lights work correctly. The same flasher is used for both the
turn signals and the emergency lights.


> I always thought integrating the turn signals 
> with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure 
> it solves other problems, like feedback if both 
> turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same 
> time.

If you have a turn signal on and then turn on the emergency flasher
switch, the other turn signal comes on in time with the original turn
signal light.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ahhh, good man!

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:22 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.
>


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:


If I recall, there was a problem with a relay.
They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much 
available locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and 
a household light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the 
fan from inside the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix 
it properly.



My first car was a 1975 CVCC Honda Civic.
The electric fan was activated by a thermostatic switch in the bottom tank of 
the radiator. When the coolant being returned to the engine was deemed too warm, 
the fan came on. Until, of course, the switch died. Fortunately, the switch 
hooked up with bullet connectors, one male, one female. So all I had to do was 
unplug both wires, plug them together, and the fan would come on with the 
ignition. When the weather got cooler, put the wires back the way they belong.

IIRC, I never did replace that switch.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[clay via Mercedes]

I have to clear faults midway down the road.  It works fine for a mile or ten, 
then decides it is no longer happy.  Not even when I use the dang blinker... 
just ... because

clay


On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Interesting that you mention this, as my new (to me) S430 has thrown warnings 
> for two lamps recently, but both are working.
> 
> I clear the fault and ignore it.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.
>> 
>> The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs.  I 
>> changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs 
>> are out.  It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator 
>> goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected.  
>> Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> So how can you tell if a light is not working now???
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
 the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
 epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
 some gremlin
 
 clay
 
 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>>> 
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>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[clay via Mercedes]

They are factory spec.  I tried the garbage FLAPS stuff and went with euro 
spec.  Still do the same

clay

On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> But is one bulb is not of the factory specified type, the indicator stays on.
> 
> 
>> I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.
>> 
>> The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs.  I 
>> changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs 
>> are out.  It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator 
>> goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected.  
>> Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> So how can you tell if a light is not working now???
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
 the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
 epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
 some gremlin
 
 clay
 
 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>>> 
>>> *"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts."* - Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Interesting that you mention this, as my new (to me) S430 has thrown warnings 
for two lamps recently, but both are working.

I clear the fault and ignore it.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.
> 
> The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs.  I 
> changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are 
> out.  It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes 
> crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected.  Contact 
> cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> So how can you tell if a light is not working now???
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
>>> the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
>>> epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
>>> some gremlin
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>> 
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

But is one bulb is not of the factory specified type, the indicator stays on.



I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.

The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown 
bulbs.  I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still 
insists the bulbs are out.  It depends on some ambiguous stray 
neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the 
turn signal is blinking as expected.  Contact cleaner, bulb grease 
and sanding the fitting does not help.


clay


On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:


 So how can you tell if a light is not working now???

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
 the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
 epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
 some gremlin

 clay




 --
 OK Don

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 our people need it sorely on these accounts."* - Mark Twain

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 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves."

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 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[clay via Mercedes]

I do a pre-flight check when she goes out.

The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs.  I 
changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are 
out.  It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes 
crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected.  Contact 
cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help.

clay


On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

> So how can you tell if a light is not working now???
> 
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
>> the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
>> epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
>> some gremlin
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So how can you tell if a light is not working now???

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out
> the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the
> epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of
> some gremlin
>
> clay
>
>

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for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[clay via Mercedes]

The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the 
incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107.  There are no longer the epileptic 
blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin

clay

On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> THat would qualify as a Cathey with oak leaves awards if you'd only used a 
> salvaged flasher.  As it is, it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey 
> award!
> 
> As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers.  Is that correct?
> 
> I always thought integrating the turn signals with the 4 way was a dumb 
> solution, but I am sure it solves other problems, like feedback if both turn 
> signals and 4 ways are put on at the same time.
> 
> 
>> Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with
>> intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening.
>> 
>> I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket
>> pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It
>> works just fine. Cheap, too.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Pass an ATTABOY to 'im, eh?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!



Sounds a bit like a former neighbor of mine.
He had a diesel Jetta that was trying to overheat while he and his family 
were on holidays in the USA.
He determined that the electric fan was not coming on but that the fan 
motor worked.

If I recall, there was a problem with a relay.
They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much available 
locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and a household 
light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the fan from inside 
the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix it properly.


RB

On 01/06/2015 8:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with
intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening.

I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket
pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It
works just fine. Cheap, too.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sounds a bit like a former neighbor of mine.
He had a diesel Jetta that was trying to overheat while he and his 
family were on holidays in the USA.
He determined that the electric fan was not coming on but that the fan 
motor worked.

If I recall, there was a problem with a relay.
They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much 
available locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and 
a household light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the 
fan from inside the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix 
it properly.


RB

On 01/06/2015 8:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with
intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening.

I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket
pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It
works just fine. Cheap, too.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

THat would qualify as a Cathey with oak leaves 
awards if you'd only used a salvaged flasher.  As 
it is, it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a 
Cathey award!


As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers.  Is that correct?

I always thought integrating the turn signals 
with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure 
it solves other problems, like feedback if both 
turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same 
time.




Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with
intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening.

I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket
pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It
works just fine. Cheap, too.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And got a bonus ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!



Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with
intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening.

I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket
pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It
works just fine. Cheap, too.


Craig
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