Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
We live in a suburban/semi-rural area, where small farms are being converted to new developments all the time. We have a street light on the perimeter of our property that is paid for by the county electrical utility (publicly owned). Initially, when the bulb died we were grateful that the light pollution was gone, but crime in the area (mostly vehicle prowls) prompted us to reconsider. A call to the utility got the light repaired the next day. We also have a motion sensor light nearer to the house. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
This is brilliant, good show Craig! -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned off? Probably not. Actually, they don't have to. All you need to do is to rig up a small light (maybe even a laser pointer) to shine on the photocell of the sun-sensor. Turn on the light, the power company's light goes off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:21:21 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is brilliant, good show Craig! Thank you! Craig On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned off? Probably not. Actually, they don't have to. All you need to do is to rig up a small light (maybe even a laser pointer) to shine on the photocell of the sun-sensor. Turn on the light, the power company's light goes off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
Motion sensor would be the ideal solution, so it's probably against power co. policy to install one. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On August 14, 2015 at 12:55 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, you are. Insist on a motion sensor and offer to pay for it. Why? It's not like the utility A: offers a motion sensor option b: meters the power consumed by the light ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When you put your own light up, pay more up front for the lamp, and get LED. Cheaper to operate and should last longer. RB On 14/08/2015 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
This is actually a good deal for the electric co -- they can keep their baseload plants spinning at times of low demand and not have to build as much intermediate and peaking capacity. In aggregate it probably adds up. I think too, it goes back to the original rural electrification when every house needed a porch light they kept on all night. Probably for a similar reason. I have one out on the pole where the above ground line ends and it goes underground to the house, it is maybe 150ft from the house, and lights up the woods, but it does an adequate job of putting out some light in the area out front. When the power goes out, it is REALLY dark out here. I thihk it is $5 a month. --R On 8/14/15 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I think the advantage on those lights is a reduced rate. If you run your own light all night, every night, the power will cost you more than if you use theirs. If you don't keep your outside lights on much, you may not save much, but it likely won't cost you more. RB On 14/08/2015 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ours is $7/month. My wife likes to be able to see the skunks as soon or before they see her when taking the compost out after dark, so we still have it. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
I think the advantage on those lights is a reduced rate. If you run your own light all night, every night, the power will cost you more than if you use theirs. If you don't keep your outside lights on much, you may not save much, but it likely won't cost you more. RB On 14/08/2015 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
Kaleb wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? Way back in the early days of Rural Electrification, the electric load in the rural areas dropped to near zero at night. So to even out the load a bit, the coops provide a light for free if you pay for the electricity. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off Around here, they will NOT allow a switch on that light. But you sure can have them turn it off and you can put up your own lights - with a switch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
Forget the power company. you did the right thing by telling them to stuff it. If you want a light, put it on a building, or worst case, put in a pole or an old windmill tower, then add whatever switches or motion sensor you want. You could really freak out trespassers by having the motion sensor play a recording telling them they are being watched and video recorded. For extra effect, add a IR sensor to aim a red laser and tell them they are in your sights and to leave or be shot. Your little tractor has a loader. With that you can raise a pole with a light on it; worst case. I still contend that the lights do little more than light the path for thieves, and that total darkness is tougher for them to deal with. You might even forgo the light in the proposed scenario, and just have a motion sensor to play a recording that tells them they are being watched, video recorded, and that they are in your rifle sights. With that coming out of the dark, they'd wet their pants trying to get away. I doubt if many would try to come back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, you are. Insist on a motion sensor and offer to pay for it. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well that's what I am thinking but since it seems like everyone has one I thought maybe it was for the cows or something. I can see the point though at night I can look out and see if anybody is creeping around but with motion lights would see if somebody came up though. I guess the only drawback is the street light is way up high and not easy to take out but lower to the ground motion lights could be taken out easy by a criminal. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:42 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Very creative! On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Forget the power company. you did the right thing by telling them to stuff it. If you want a light, put it on a building, or worst case, put in a pole or an old windmill tower, then add whatever switches or motion sensor you want. You could really freak out trespassers by having the motion sensor play a recording telling them they are being watched and video recorded. For extra effect, add a IR sensor to aim a red laser and tell them they are in your sights and to leave or be shot. Your little tractor has a loader. With that you can raise a pole with a light on it; worst case. I still contend that the lights do little more than light the path for thieves, and that total darkness is tougher for them to deal with. You might even forgo the light in the proposed scenario, and just have a motion sensor to play a recording that tells them they are being watched, video recorded, and that they are in your rifle sights. With that coming out of the dark, they'd wet their pants trying to get away. I doubt if many would try to come back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I guess I was getting screwed by PSO. Yea I get having a switch before the motion light but I'm talking about a switch I can turn on to have the lights stay on bypassing the motion sensors. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Easy to do - just put a switch in-line before the light. The motion detector is in the light - up where it is. The switch is where you put it then - hopefully where you can reach it. Maybe even inside. Mine at $7/mo. includes the power - it's before the meter. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: snip I wonder if they sell any that are motion activated but I can also cut them on with a switch full time if wanted. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No they are charging me for the power to it. All said and done it's about $10 a month and my yard looks like a parking lot. I'm going to install several motion activated lights. I wonder if they sell any that are motion activated but I can also cut them on with a switch full time if wanted. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 14/08/2015 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On August 14, 2015 at 4:07 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is actually a good deal for the electric co -- they can keep their baseload plants spinning at times of low demand and not have to build as much intermediate and peaking capacity. In aggregate it probably adds up. I think too, it goes back to the original rural electrification when every house needed a porch light they kept on all night. Probably for a similar reason. Yeah, they're not doing Kaleb a favor, he's doing them a favor. Mitch. ___ I don't know about that. If they install the light and maintain it and provide the power to light it whenever it is dark for $10 a month, then I doubt he could do that any other way for that amount of money. So, if he wants it, I suggest it is a good deal. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 14/08/2015 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On August 14, 2015 at 4:07 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is actually a good deal for the electric co -- they can keep their baseload plants spinning at times of low demand and not have to build as much intermediate and peaking capacity. In aggregate it probably adds up. I think too, it goes back to the original rural electrification when every house needed a porch light they kept on all night. Probably for a similar reason. Yeah, they're not doing Kaleb a favor, he's doing them a favor. Mitch. ___ I don't know about that. If they install the light and maintain it and provide the power to light it whenever it is dark for $10 a month, then I doubt he could do that any other way for that amount of money. So, if he wants it, I suggest it is a good deal. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The motion sensor light thats on my garage has that feature. Turn the switch Off-On and the light stays on 'till the switch is turned Off. If you do Off-On Off-On the light stays on for an hour then goes off and back ti motion sensing mode. Russ W Sent from my Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country Date: Fri, Aug 14, 2015 16:57 I guess I was getting screwed by PSO. Yea I get having a switch before the motion light but I'm talking about a switch I can turn on to have the lights stay on bypassing the motion sensors. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2015, at 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Easy to do - just put a switch in-line before the light. The motion detector is in the light - up where it is. The switch is where you put it then - hopefully where you can reach it. Maybe even inside. Mine at $7/mo. includes the power - it's before the meter. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: snip I wonder if they sell any that are motion activated but I can also cut them on with a switch full time if wanted. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, your switch wires just go from a hot to the light after the motion switch. I guess I was getting screwed by PSO. Yea I get having a switch before the motion light but I'm talking about a switch I can turn on to have the lights stay on bypassing the motion sensors. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No they are charging me for the power to it. All said and done it's about $10 a month and my yard looks like a parking lot. I'm going to install several motion activated lights. I wonder if they sell any that are motion activated but I can also cut them on with a switch full time if wanted. Sent from my MBPhone Any motion light will work. HF has em, so do the big box lumberyards, tru-valu or ace hdw etc. Jut run a switch from the house or where ever you want it out to the light to switch the power on or off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:16:39 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned off? Probably not. Actually, they don't have to. All you need to do is to rig up a small light (maybe even a laser pointer) to shine on the photocell of the sun-sensor. Turn on the light, the power company's light goes off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If it's not too high, that's not a problem - it most likely is wired for that already. If you want it higher or further away, just add wires to move the switch out of the light housing down to where you can reach it. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I was getting screwed by PSO. Yea I get having a switch before the motion light but I'm talking about a switch I can turn on to have the lights stay on bypassing the motion sensors. Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 14:20:09 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ours is $7/month. My wife likes to be able to see the skunks as soon or before they see her when taking the compost out after dark, so we still have it. When we lived in Colorado Springs after our stint out in the country, we had a house that had floodlights around its perimeter. We would open the windows in the evening to cool the house down. When I would notice skunk smell, I would turn on the lights and the skunks would leave. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I just looked at my bill and I am paying closer to $10 a month for that light. I told them to remove it. Hope I am not making a mistake. I did this when I moved here in '93, and never looked back. If I'd have wanted to live under a streetlight, I'd have stayed in the city. Cost was $X/mo here, unswitched and running off of unmetered power. Was not possible to be motion-sensored, because it was a sodium vapor bulb. Could not be turned off, their policy prevented this. (I asked.) It took them months to remove it, in the meantime it was full daylight 24/7 around here. One day it was gone: pole and all! You can do better, yourself. Especially for a light that is NOT going to be on 12/7. Doubt it'll be as bright as that yard sun, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone The theory in the 50s when the dusk to dawn light came out was that thieves didn't like the light, so would not steal from you if you have a yardlight. In 1980 I took a different outlook. Most thieves come from town and are used to street lights. town people freak out when confronted by night without streetlights. I installed the yardlight myself, with a switch. I seldom turned it on. I'd tell them to turn the blasted light off. it is not worth $5 a month. It is light pollution, and a small part of the reason why most of us can't see the milky way at night. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you have night sights on your rifle? --R On 8/14/15 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wonder if the power company can put a switch in so it can be turned off? Probably not. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's security lighting. It's convenient to just have the power company install/activate one, assuming it's in a good location. Cost is about the same. But you won't be able to turn it off. I installed my own photo-eye lights (sodium and mercury vapor) on my barn with switches so I can control them. That also let me place them where I wanted them vs the existing poles. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's so the criminals that come from the city to rob you can see at night I would vote for motion lights with on/off manual switch instead. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country
It's security lighting. It's convenient to just have the power company install/activate one, assuming it's in a good location. Cost is about the same. But you won't be able to turn it off. I installed my own photo-eye lights (sodium and mercury vapor) on my barn with switches so I can control them. That also let me place them where I wanted them vs the existing poles. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] OT streetlights in the country I have lived out in the country for many years, but now live even further out on a ranch/farm. Why do all farms/ranches have a street light on their power poll? When we turned on the power they asked us if we wanted it turned on and it's like $5 a month I believe. Problem is when you go outside at night it's lite up like, well, a street light. It comes on at dark and turns off at light. I'm thinking about calling them and telling them to turn it off. The stars would be brilliant without it and it is annoying when trying to watch the meteor shower. So anybody know of any major reason that all farms seem to have these? I think I would put up motion flood lights that I can turn off. I don't mind the light but would like to be able to turn it off. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
