Hi John,
Metaphysics is not omniphysics. There must be secure borders in reality or
evolution is meaningless. The rigor of metaphysical logic has always been
in dispute. Dispute and clarification follow different pathways
Joe
On 4/25/14 7:22 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
indefinable
metaphysics.
Joe
On 4/21/14 4:58 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
How to describe the undead quality in consciousness is
a metaphysical chore.
This kicked loose a recent memory
Hi T-REXX Techs.
In trying to stabilize a vocabulary for levels in existence conscious and
unconscious can only be sorted out through definition metaphysically not
physical definition.
Metaphysically unconsciousness is not a statement of awareness, but a state
of being like death. How to
testingthis
On 2/28/14 12:17 PM, david dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Is society going to dominate intellect or is intellect going to dominate
society? And if society wins, what's going to be left of intellect? And if
intellect wins what's going to be left of society?
Intellect is not an
are reactions to social fears and triumphs for the self is a 3rd
level pattern and all emotions stem from a self-caring.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Andre and All,
There is a difference between emotional reality, and intellectual reality.
I
Hi Andre and All,
There is a difference between emotional reality, and intellectual reality.
I suggest it is different metaphysically. The one of emotion differs from
the one of intellect indefinable, definable.
Joe
On 2/26/14 5:56 AM, Andre andrebroer...@gmail.com wrote:
Joe to Andre and
Hi Andre and All,
Is there a difference between intellectual ideas and perceptions? Is the
difference between static ideas and poetic expression significant SQ DQ?
Joe
On 2/22/14 2:35 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
J: The only thing that intellect can possibly be (as a higher
Hi John,
I thought we were trying to delineate the ways of establishing Sq/DQ
metaphysics, or is it Dq/SQ. HM! I guess I refer indefinable to
understandable, and definable to understandable. Understandable is carrying
two metaphysical loads. I wonder if I have an indefinable brain that
Hi Horse and All.
DQ is indefinable. The social level based in love is indefinable. The
reality of a social level manifests in the study of DQ love. IMHO! Love for
one another matters.
Joe
On 2/7/14 11:16 AM, Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net wrote:
Even if the Giant is the social level then,
Hi Horse and All,
I accept the word essence as nonsense, and substitute existence when I
see it. I do not know why. Existence seems to have meaning, essence
has none.
Joe
On 2/2/14 4:14 AM, Horse ho...@darkstar.uk.net wrote:
From what you're saying in your
posts, to say that SOM is the
to foretell the future. They
listened to the wind and predicted the future from that. That sounds insane
now. But why should the inventors of reason sound insane?
John
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi John and All,
Logos and logic. Imho DQ
Hi John and All,
Logos and logic. Imho DQ dwells in all realities. Indefinable occurs in
all reality DQ/SQ. Freedom is sacred.
Joe
On 1/17/14 11:27 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote:
The best you could say is DQ is undefined,
not indefinable.
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Hi John and All,
Imho metaphysics is a structure for knowledge. Definition is required for
the consideration of structure, true or false!
Pirsig proposes a structured DQ/SQ metaphysics. DQ is indefinable. In what
form is DQ perceived? A structured experience of individuality 1 becomes
the
you feel satisfied! Individuality has meaning before 1
moves. DQ/SQ hosts structure, reality.
Joe
On 1/9/14 12:50 AM, Ian Glendinning ian.glendinn...@gmail.com wrote:
And your point Joe ?
Ian
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net
wrote:
Hi Ian
Hi Dan and All,
What is the argument for the description of reality, DQ/SQ? The
metaphysical discussion of reality? Can metaphysical reality be
communicated in a statement of indefinable reality? If so how is it
accepted as reality? In the statement of DQ/SQ when DQ is indefinable?
Hi Dan and All,
Fault! I do not know that indefinable DQ is a fault. Aristotle wrote
metaphysics S/O. Pirsig chose DQ/SQ reality, requiring a greater
exploration in the definition for reality, in the definitive descriptive
DQ/SQ approach to reality
What vocabulary can be created for truth in
has meaning before 1
moves. DQ/SQ hosts structure, reality.
Joe
On 1/9/14 12:50 AM, Ian Glendinning ian.glendinn...@gmail.com wrote:
And your point Joe ?
Ian
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Ian,
Metaphysics, physics. Why two words
Hi Jan-Anders,
I do not see how the conscious perception of indefinable is definition. DQ
remains indefinable though knowable in the experience of an individual.
Individuality is DQ consciousness, before definition. SQ is definition.
Joe
On 1/8/14 1:28 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson
Hi Ian,
Metaphysics, physics. Why two words? There is a point to logic.
Joe
On 1/7/14 1:31 PM, Ian Glendinning ian.glendinn...@gmail.com wrote:
When are we going to lose these pointless degenerate myths like free will
is undefinable ffs?
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Hi Andre and All,
DQ/SQ, indefinable/definable! A structure which supports indefinable
reality must include aspects of reality which are indefinable like free-will
which remains outside of definition through freedom. If I can't make a
mistake in what I choose I am not held responsible for my
Hi Andre and All,
My understanding of the reality of experience proposed by Persig contains an
experience of DQ (indefinable), SQ (definable) reality.
My experience of an indefinable lies in consciousness (self awareness). New
experience makes it possible to describe something previously
Hi Richard,
I don't understand the meaning of gross generalization as applied to DQ/SQ
terms? DQ/SQ requires precision in removing the clutter around SQ in
metaphysical reality.
DQ is accepted as indefinable in the common logical perception of
metaphysics dq/sq MOQ.
Physics and Metaphysics!
Hi Andre and All,
I do not doubt that there is a physical differentiation between men and
women. Both are sentient beings. What about angels?.
What is the criteria for the differentiated aesthetic continuum? Language?
Does undifferentiated aesthetic continuum contain the experience of
reality
Hi Dan and All,
One size individuality does not fit all. IMHO Man/Woman experience
indefinable reality in differing perspectives. One divided by one becomes
one divided, open to new possibilities like babies.
Joe
On 12/31/13 2:36 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
You're right...
Hi Dan and All,
Imho DQ/SQ metaphysics, DQ is indefinable like emotional experience. I
experience Love though I cannot define it conceptually, only emotionally.
Joe
On 12/28/13 4:58 PM, Dan Glover daneglo...@gmail.com wrote:
Definition, meaning, ideas... they all seem to correlate to
Hi MarshaV and All,
IMHO the proper way to spell compelling is DQ/SQ. There is always
something missing in a defined statement, indefinable DQ.
Joe
On 12/26/13 6:20 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Are we human beings so captivated by writing that we will be compelled to try
to discover a
Hi Dan and All,
IMHO Chapter breaks are whimsical and outside the definition DQ/SQ.
Defining the indefinable in DQ/SQ metaphysics uses consciousness as the
arbiter of indefinable reality, DQ. DQ remains outside definition in a
reality of direct experience.
Joe
On 12/22/13 3:48 PM, Dan
Hi Dan and All,
Are DQ/SQ hoboes? They are not mainstream yet. For myself I had no
interest in mainstream until I went to New York to help on the Catholic
Worker paper put out by Dorothy Day. I left New York to go south for voter
registration. A new metaphysics and I still have no solid
, at 4:27 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV
and All,
IMHO emotions are indefinable. Definition does not describe a
totality for
emotion. E.G. Love. DQ/SQ metaphysics and emotions are
bedfellows.
Joe
On 12/15/13 4:49 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net
wrote:
Hi
before perceptions and
conceptions?
Marsha
On Dec 14, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All;
If a man is not in a mood what is he in? I wish I were not alive? The
heavens above the earth are the epitome of unknown reality. I am sure
curiosity
Hi MarshaV and All;
If a man is not in a mood what is he in? I wish I were not alive? The
heavens above the earth are the epitome of unknown reality. I am sure
curiosity has meaning in individuality. 1 is lazy and reacts to 2. AHHH
life!
Joe
On 12/13/13 8:57 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net
.
Mojo
Risin': The Story of L.A. Woman'. On youtube:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYigFBVNwXU
On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and all,
Love does not grow from a feeling perspective. Love flows from
metaphysical
individuality. I am
'. On youtube:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYigFBVNwXU
On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and all,
Love does not grow from a feeling perspective. Love flows from metaphysical
individuality. I am alone! Feeling, idea, decision all
it show
On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and all,
I suppose idiosyncrasies are discernable.
For the discernment of reality by an individual sentient DQ/SQ is a proper
format. I experience the indefinable.
How is that possible?
SOM
Hi MarshaV and all,
I suppose idiosyncrasies are discernable.
For the discernment of reality by an individual sentient DQ/SQ is a proper
format. I experience the indefinable.
How is that possible?
SOM based in definition is inadequate to describe social indefinable
reality. There is no
Hi MarshaV,
Negation, not this not that, cannot locate the reality of dynamic quality.
Reality requires a positive assertion in existence. Reality does not exist
in the throat of negation. I.E., nothing.
Negation only clears away debris for the understanding of DQ. The reality
of Existence is
Hi MarshaV and All,
DQ/SQ! DQ individuality explores cognitive biases, remaining indefinable.
SQ static quality by definition will never stand alone in DQ individuality.
The perception of DQ precedes definition. Love remains indefinable.
Joe
On 12/7/13 12:27 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
Logos/logic! DQ/SQ! Metaphysics/Physics! All strange bedfellows. I
suspect there is an order to the strangeness Logos/logic DQ/SQ. I perceive
the order though I cannot define it DQ/SQ. Logos, I stand alone with no
support DQ/SQ!
Joe
On 12/2/13 3:57 AM, MarshaV
Hi MarshaV and All.
Hi MarshaV and All,
The instant seems available, nursing creation DQ/SQ. The event is
determined DQ/SQ. Strange bedfellows!
Joe
On 11/29/13 12:44 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
I cannot but smile at my own wealth, when I am thus reminded that every chink
and cranny
Hi MarshaV and all,
Inner dialogue is vague. Every word has a place in metaphysics. The word
that I question is Love. In a logos logic duality love proposes a reality
for duality as DQ/SQ love. DQ/SQ is a more precise definition for love than
S/O love!
Joe
On 11/28/13 4:23 AM, MarshaV
Hi Marsha and All,
DQ/SQ! DQ is indefinable experience. I experience indefinable reality like
Love. I am able to engage the indefinable in DQ/SQ experience. SOM
metaphysics embraces definition. Existence upholds DQ/SQ.
Joe
On 11/27/13 12:42 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi low Joe,
-- a place.
On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All:
Logos/Logic! The word (logos) embodies logic. Meaning is embedded in the
word (logos). Without logic a word has no meaning DQ/SQ. A word DQ
embodies indefinable logic.
Imho
Hi MarshaV and All:
Logos/Logic! The word (logos) embodies logic. Meaning is embedded in the
word (logos). Without logic a word has no meaning DQ/SQ. A word DQ
embodies indefinable logic.
Imho Joe
On 11/25/13 2:09 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
His Quality was a metaphysical entity,
Hi MarshaV and All,
IMHO Quality can not describe its own existence. Substance is closer to
reality. Quality modifies something existing DQ/SQ.
In a metaphysics of evolution ultimate truth contradicts evolution in being
an impossible gradation of reality unless reality is described as levels
Hi David B and All;
The negative side of evolution (ex voluntas) is nothing, in chaos. DQ/SQ!
I experience the indefinable! DQ is indefinable and not Chaos. DQ is
indefinably creative. I experience indefinable creation, free will. I guess
sometimes I act in error and am held accountable.
Joe
Hi David and All,
The physical order of the universe is also the moral order of the universe,
Rta is both. This was exactly what the Metaphysics of Quality was
claiming.
IMHO the word QUALITY has no reality in that dogfight. For thousands of
years the word QUALITY has been used as an
Hi MarshaV
IMHO meditation does not have to deal with SQ reality. There must be a
further discipline for discerning the DQ base in SQ. I like evolution as an
arbiter for levels in reality. Mathematics for the reality of physics!
IMHO Evolution is cast as levels in existence in definable
Hi MarshaV and All,
Out of tune!!!. The reality of DQ/SQ!
I do not know that there is a tuning fork for DQ/SQ? Definition is out of
tune in DQ/SQ metaphysics. I surmise that there must be an understanding of
DQ/SQ that is not out of tune beyond definition since metaphysics are king..
The
Hi MarshaV and all,
Word games! Logos/logic! Dynamic/Static! Quality indefinable, Quality
definable! Consciousness Con (Cum/with) sciousness (scious/science strict
logic mathematics). Metaphysics DQ/SQ tries to include it all!
Evolution (Ex from, volution (voluntary), from will).
Metaphysics
Hi Horse and All,
A monism, Quality, is a briar patch. The first accepted usage of Quality in
SOM is a Modifier.
In SOM Quality is the first adjective modifying existence in the noun.
Reality must have quality or it is a pipedream.
In MOQ quality is dual reality DQ/SQ indefinable/definable.
Hi Horse and All,
I accept DQ/SQ indefinable/definable reality. An inconclusive definable S/O
reality SOM follows illogical reasoning by avoiding indefinable reality
evolution (ex-voluntas) out of will, or creation.
I experience a definable/indefinable emotion, love. MOQ embraces
Hi David M and All,
In DQ/SQ metaphysics there are two descriptions for understanding reality
definable/indefinable DQ/SQ. For reality I do not understand an existential
distinction between entity and function? Being and Cause??
Joe
On 10/21/13 10:16 AM, David Morey david...@blueyonder.co.uk
Hi David B and All,
Entity and function are strange bedfellows
On 10/18/13 9:01 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
David quotes Wiliam James:
To deny plumply that consciousness exists seems so absurd on the face of it
for undeniably thoughts do exist that I fear some
Hi Andre,
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! There were no takers!
DQ/SQ Metaphysics are not a precisely flowing discipline. Analogy and
metaphor, when acknowledged, are useful to help portray indefinable DQ.
IMHO Joe
On 10/17/13 10:32 AM, Andre andrebroer...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Andre and All,
IMHO your acceptance of 'flowing discipline' to help uncover and follow
indefinable DQ is vague. It seems to accept movement not existence as the
arbiter of reality. DQ follows DQ?
Discipline embraces DQ/SQ. Portraying a flowing static SQ reality begs
definition. Flowing DQ
Hi X Acto and All,
DQ/SQ! When can the intellect acknowledge reality as indefinable?
Metaphysics endorses indefinable/definable reality DQ/SQ. The concept of
intellect alone is inadequate to validate DQ as indefinable. IMHO A baby's
learning curve starts with suckling, crying, and other
, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thought the question was concerning your indefinable emotions.
Marsha
On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and all,
IMHO neutral experience comes before the attraction repulsion mandate.
Evolution
Hi MarshaV and All,
In metaphysics an indefinable is a turn off. A definable is a turn on. And
here we go round the mulberry bush.
Joe
On 10/14/13 11:37 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Joe,
On Oct 14, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
DQ/SQ metaphysics! S/O metaphysics
.
Joe
On 10/10/13 1:27 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Joe,
Do you mean attraction and repulsion, or something else?
Marsha
On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
I do not know what you mean by not knowable
Hi DMB and All,
Knowledge is an aftertaste of experience determining a true or false
reality. Quality, DQ, is existence. There can be no dispute about quality!
It is determined in SOM to be an adjective. In MOQ quality is determined to
be a noun. A dispute requires definition! There is
Hi MarshaV and All,
I do not know what you mean by not knowable? Are indefinable emotions
knowable?
Joe
On 10/9/13 3:34 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
not patterned, not divisible, not knowable, not definable, not bounded, not
differentiated.
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Hi David and All,
I agree we can't explain the change in DQ. IMHO, however, we can posit a
model like evolution which helps us identify levels (differences) in change.
Evolution describes metaphysics in levels DQ/SQ.
Joe
On 10/8/13 5:58 AM, David Morey david...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
why
Hi David and All,
Speculation: Evolution! (Ex voluntas)! From Will! My free decision
accepts or negates what I perceive.
Belief and knowledge. Manifestation follows reality. When intellect and
will manifest, do they follow differing metaphysics? Mind/matter? I am
confused!
Joe
On
Hi David M and All,
Modern science owes a great debt to the rigid logic in mathematics.
Mathematics can only describe definable SQ.
DQ is indefinable, outside a purview of mathematical structure. This
explains the need for the reality of DQ/SQ metaphysics in the further
discernment of reality
Hi David Morey and All,
IMHO Pirsig suggests there are indefinable, definable perceptions. To have
a flow of perceptions accepts a metaphysical DQ/SQ reality. Logic follows
observable reality. DQ/SQ metaphysics embodies logic, opening a door for
the perception of a logic of indefinable
Hi MarshaV and All,
There is a word that keeps rattling my head, evolution. Does evolution
limit the not divisible, not bounded, not patterned, not dualistic, not
this, not that negation only scenario?
Joe
On 9/28/13 2:50 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
not divisible, not bounded, not
Hi MarshaV and All,
The existence of Dynamic quality is not negated in being indefinably
knowable. To say dynamic quality is an intellectual construct with only
intentional existence denies existence to dynamic as a metaphysical
principle leaving it as logical reality only, not real oogflump.
Hi David B and All,
DQ/SQ! It seems that in reality there is indefinable/definable. In being
married they are separated only in language for communication since you
can't have one without the other.
Joe
On 9/26/13 1:31 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Then ask yourself
Hi David B and All,
IMHO ypu do not have all the answers necessary to validate MOQ logic which
accepts a metaphysical reality of an indefinable/definable reality DQ/SQ.
What about evolution? For a beginning the definition of reality as a
perceived order in existential differences, evolution,
Hi MarshaV and All,
IMHO Static definable, Dynamic indefinable, seem to embody concepts
describing evolving reality. I see Evolution as EX VOLUNTAS. Out of will.
EX VOLUNTAS, seems to provide a reasonable source for order in change.
Change requires some difference. The reality for Evolution
Hi David B and All,
Logos Logic. The unchangeable changeable! Logos is determined by
definition! Logic evolves creating new definitions SOM, DQ/SQ!
Joe
On 9/21/13 12:25 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
To say that static patterns are ever-changing is like saying our
Hi MarshaV and All,
IMHO The soundness of a premise follows its relationship in evolution. In a
DQ/SQ acceptance for reality some relationships in existence are
indefinable. I accept evolution as the measure of indefinable/definable
reality. I guess that makes evolution a supreme reality.
Joe
Hi Ron and All,
Emotional level indefinable. Intellectual level DQ/SQ.
Evolution is useful when describing different levels in existence. There is
a hierarchy used when describing action and thought. Evolution defines the
dynamic reality of that hierarchy DQ/SQ.
Joe
On 9/12/13 6:12 PM, X
Hi MarshaV and All,
The brain is a house of logic, meaning in words. Logos/Logic. How can we
know to emphasize words in creating consistent logic? Our environment and
training through encouragement by parents, help meaning. The brain is
sensitized early by language to meaning in words,
Hi MarshaV and All,
Logic and instinct are functions. Logos formats the brain's experience in
sentient communication. Instinct and logos follow differing formats in
reality, definable instinct and free will. And I seem to be going round and
round in circles.
Joe
On 9/11/13 10:46 AM,
Hi DMB and All,
Imho you are wrestling with elephants! Good luck!
In SOM there is no evolution, reality is SO. The first adjective modifying
reality is quality followed by the second adjective quantity, time, place,
etc.
Moq proposes Quality as metaphysical reality in existence. Evolution
Hi David B and all,
The structure of metaphysics DQ/SQ differs from a mathematical structure of
logic. Mathematical structure does not support indefinable reality it only
eliminates it. In mathematics DQ/SQ is a nonentity.
Metaphysics has a different approach to logic from physics. Evolution
Hi DMB and All,
How can I describe a feeling for logic? What I learned at my mother's knee.
Metaphysics do not have a base in logic since metaphysics create logical
reality. Defective metaphysics accept an illogical base in describing
reality e.g., SOM.
Metaphysics accept a perception of
Hi David and All,
The SOM format SQ leaves us OK in definition, but bypasses existence as a
necessity for reality DQ/SQ.
MOQ format DQ/SQ, DQ in existence comes before SQ formulation.
Indefinable overcomes a barrier, experiential definition. No one defines
DQ. An experience of indefinable DQ
Hi MarshaV and all,
Is there a determinable order of concepts? Evolution was suggested as one
order, color variety is another order, musical scale is another order.
These all seem to be denied in indefinable DQ. Order and concepts are at
odds if they do not have a connection. IMHO levels in
Hi MarshaV and All,
LOGOS word, LOGIC valid reasoning. I wonder is there is any etymology
connecting the two words?
Joe
On 9/2/13 11:40 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
RMP wrote Remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object or a
subject or anything else. It is
Hi David and All,
Logos, Logic. Which comes first? Metaphysics accepts logic and logos.
Pirsig through DQ seemed to wish to separate logic from logos. Metaphysics
of quality MOQ cannot be the metaphysics of logos SOM.
Joe
On 8/27/13 7:53 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
is
amazing? Life is amazing!
Marsha
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and all,
It is hard for me to conceptualize a pattern of existence. Evolution is
scary enough, and pre-patterned evolution takes the fun out of reality by
slighting
Hi MarshaV and All,
What is the distinction between the observed and the observer if nothing
exists prior to the observation. The observation cannot create the
observer unless modifying is the existence of creation. In which case
creation is horribly restricted to definition and indefinable DQ
/22/13 12:42 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
What is the distinction between the observed and the observer if nothing
exists prior to the observation.
A pattern.
Moq_Discuss mailing
Hi MarshaV and All,
Do levels in existence describe reality DQ/SQ?
The basis for reality in such an assumption would entail
indefinable/definable reality in existence. Does that describe DQ/SQ?
Is evolution nothing more than rhetoric?
MOQ DQ/SQ proposes indefinable reality. How can I
Hi David,
Good is a noun is a can of worms! Good boy! Good tree! Good soup!
Good DQ! Oops I forgot DQ is indefinable. Good is out of place.
Joe
On 8/18/13 4:13 AM, David Harding da...@goodmetaphysics.com wrote:
Good is a noun - not an adjective!
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Hi David and All,
DQ metaphysics find the test of defineable mathematical computation
inadequate for reality.
Tests for truth. DQ experience! All movement can be attributed to
indefinable reality.
Is Metaphysics MOQ a forum for evolutionary reality? DQ change has a long
history! Festering
Hi Arlo and All,
SOM MOQ. Quality in SOM duality is an adjective modifying substance.
Quality in MOQ reality is a stand alone term, the base exploring existence
in the order of ever changing reality.
Evolution DQ/SQ probably could provide metaphysical limits to possibility in
the origins in
Hi MashaV and All,
I cannot recognize Dynamic Quality if is is unknowable! Knowledge is
formatted as experience. I experience DQ. There must be a parking space
between undefinable and unknowable. (My computer reacts badly to
undefinable by putting a redline under it whereas indefinable gets
Hi Arlo,
I prefer the metaphor of the wind! The answer my friend is blowing in the
wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.
Joe
On 8/1/13 12:37 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu wrote:
To paraphrase Pirsig's metaphor, DQ is the paper on which our
cultural-intellectual narratives
Hi Arlo and All,
I do not like the metaphor of dust for reality. In some mysterious ways we
are keepers of the wind, you know like a windbag! Without moving wind there
would be no differentiation in individuality. A blowhard!
Joe
On 8/2/13 11:01 AM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu
Hi Arlo and All,
Just to keep the pot boiling. Imho indefinable DQ is involved in our
intellectual description of nature even when culturally defined. Maybe I am
just showing my ignorance by including indefinable DQ analogy and metaphor
in cultural definition!
Joe
On 8/1/13 4:32 AM, ARLO
Hi MarshaV and All,
In a discussion of DQ/SQ I don't see the foundation for the blank space
between the thoughts. Indefinable DQ is not blank space. I experience the
indefinable. I do not know how blank space becomes indefinable.
Is nothing defined as the indefinable?
Nothing and existence
Hi Ron and All,
I was shocked the other day to realize that I didn't know what I was
writing. My logic was totally words, without intellectual participation!
When I examined this further I realized that I was upset, I was not calm.
Logic stresses me in a discussion of the evolution of levels
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Joe,
On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Indefinable is not the same as unknowable!
Are there any ways 'indefinable' and 'unknowable' are the same?
Marsha
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Hi MarshaV and All,
For a theory to have any meaning there must be reality. For reality to have
any meaning there must be sentient perception.
How is DQ perceived in a sentient environment? Indefinable! Indefinable is
not the same as unknowable!
Joe
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Hi MarshaV and All:
I am unclear what a dream of indefinable DQ might dream mean?
Joe
On 7/21/13 12:46 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
I have had my dream--like others--
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Hi Arlo and All,
I guess you found DQ/SQ! IMHO Its worth a fight!
Joe
On 7/17/13 12:17 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR ajb...@psu.edu wrote:
In other words, its not intellectual level that's generating angst among
students, its the social/cultural/economic foundations to intellectual level
Hi MarshaV and All,
Does education produce peace of mind, or does it add to angst? Are students
more high strung than employees learning a new job? They certainly seem to
be more out of control! Youth! Lack of experience!
Joe
On 7/17/13 2:07 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
If you
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