[Mpls] Mpls. Shelter Codes

2003-12-03 Thread Dan Prozinski
A.H. "Thanks for posting the codes, Dan. However I guess I wonder if you mean homeless people should not be around children? If that is the case then children should be kept out of Target, the convention center, Southdale, Subway, the Target Center, the Metrodome, (the list goes on) because I kn

Re: [Mpls] Some clarification please/Do-goodin' fun & Profit

2003-12-03 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 12/3/03 8:30:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Why can we afford things like a new stadium, block E, downtown target, etc. when we have so many people homeless and in need of basic life elements? >> Keith says; Clearly they are not the funders for the

[Mpls] Federal Mediation: Signing of Agreement on Dec 4, 2003

2003-12-03 Thread Shawn Lewis
As a result of Federal Mediation between Minneapolis Police and representatives of various communities has led to an agreement. The signing will take place Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003 9:30 am at the Minneapolis Urban League's Northside Office. Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- __

RE: [Mpls] RE: response from PPL Executive Director - and Non-impacted Neighborhoods and affordable housing

2003-12-03 Thread Barbara Lickness
OOPS I hit enter too soon. To continue from my previous post.. Every time the people in my neighborhood have raised issues about the location of a supportive housing facility and brought up the subject of concentration the conversation always seems to digress into the merits of the individual

RE: [Mpls] RE: response from PPL Executive Director - and Non-impacted Neighborhoods and affordable housing

2003-12-03 Thread Barbara Lickness
Paul said: Lets look at the facts of each project and talk about the merits of specific projects in both impacted and non-impacted neighborhoods. I say: That's where we get in trouble. Many of those who speak out against the long term policy of concentrating affordable and service related hous

RE: [Mpls] Mpls. Shelter Codes

2003-12-03 Thread Allysen Hoberg
The main code issue raised was that a children's mission operating at this location for nearly 100 years was alive and well, and the city code clearly prohibited a mission site from hosting an overnight shelter. Mixing these two groups was also a very bad idea. Dan Prozinski Cedar Riverside All

RE: [Mpls] RE: response from PPL Executive Director - and Non-impacted Neighborhoods and affordable housing

2003-12-03 Thread Allysen Hoberg
So lets stop stereotyping. Lets look at the facts of each project and talk about the merits of specific projects in both impacted and non-impacted neighborhoods. And lets not interpret the loud voices of a few to speak for everyone. Paul Lohman Lynnhurst Where we have voted in favor of every

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread David Shove
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe with some sincerity, that all History curriculum should > consist of flat out lies (with the children's knowledge of that fact). In second > grade the class would consist of little funny fibs and it would just ramp up > from there. By Se

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 12/3/03 2:00:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other thing that's forgotten in this discussion is that kids, no matter what particular hogwash adults indoctrinate them with, usually throw it off, knowing it for what it is. I believe with some si

Re: [Mpls] still need clarification

2003-12-03 Thread ken bradley
Hello Minneapolis Folks, DB wrote: "The count is something like this: units of actual housing: 77 at 50% MMI and 103 at 30% MMI, plus 32 transitional housing 306 shelter beds 518 total" IKB writes: Mayor Sharron Sayles Belton adminstration counted affordable housing in the same way and affordable h

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread David Shove
Michael What is your position on JROTC - Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps - in the public schools, directed by the military, but financed in part by city property taxes? That's the situation in St Paul (and many other cities in the US). --David Shove Roseville On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Michael A

[Mpls] re: [ Mpls] a couple responses

2003-12-03 Thread Eric Oines
Dyna wrote: "I sat in on the housing committee meeting where your minion presented PPL's original scheme. We were told that PPL only wanted to build new whole block sized rental projects. Our Hawthorne neighbors held the line and said no. That's why PPL had to work "cooperatively" with the neighbo

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread WizardMarks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am for exposing students to a variety of perspectives and facts, and foe helping them to develop the skills needed to reach their own conclusions. However, the "peace curriculum" appears to be something else: A "values-based" curriculum, i.e., religious indoctrinatio

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread Socialist2001
In a message dated 12/3/2003 8:53:38 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Mission : To involve as many people as we can, > starting with the children, in activities that promote > a Peaceful, Healthy and Non-Violent World." > Why is the world not "peaceful, healthy, and n

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS/Is Creationism Coming to the MPS Science Classroom?

2003-12-03 Thread Eva Young
Or how about we stay away from the hot button History class and talk about Math and Science. In Math and Sciences classes our students are taught basically that anything and everything we know about Math and Science was developed by the Ancient Greeks and later Europeans either omitting or dis

[Mpls] Food for Thought

2003-12-03 Thread Dennis Plante
I have brought this up before and apparently it didn't register. From what I'm able to determine, 17 of the roughly 100 registered level III sex offenders in Minnesota currently reside in the 55411 zip code. In my neighborhood - Jordan (part of the 55411 zip code) we have one of the youngest p

Re: [Mpls] still need clarification

2003-12-03 Thread David Brauer
on 12/3/03 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was not asking for links to web sites regarding Tom L's post on affordable > housing. > I was asking for Tom to define what he meant by affordable housing when he > talked of it in his post. > and when he said that most of the

[Mpls] still need clarification

2003-12-03 Thread m1r3201
I was not asking for links to web sites regarding Tom L's post on affordable housing. I was asking for Tom to define what he meant by affordable housing when he talked of it in his post. and when he said that most of the numeric goals have been meant-- does that include the counting of shelt

[Mpls] RE: Some clarification please

2003-12-03 Thread Leighton, Thomas J
Sorry I can't respond extensively to all of the good clarifying question right now, but I want to say something about the definition of affordable housing, and provide a link to some relevant material. There's a good reason it's hard to pin down the definition of affordable housing. Different

Re:[Mpls] Location of Affordable Housing

2003-12-03 Thread Fredric Markus
Thomas Leighton has done a good job of illuminating the planning landscape re the location of affordable housing. This is a familiar vocabulary to many of us who have been championing the cause of housing affordable to folks at the low end of the income scale. I confess not to have read the many r

[Mpls] RE: response from PPL Executive Director - and Non-impacted Neighborhoods and affordable housing

2003-12-03 Thread Paul Lohman
Allysen Hoberg Writes: As a shelter provider who has tried to site shelter in non-impacted neighborhoods, we come up against just as much resistance from those neighborhoods as we do in "impacted neighborhoods." Are we supposed to spend years (YEARS!) banging our heads against a wall to try to sit

[Mpls] Some clarification please

2003-12-03 Thread Leurquin, Ronald
Amen to some clarification here. I've been watching these posts on "affordable housing" and my head hurts from the overload of information given and the lack of clarity in what it all means. What is "affordable housing"? Do we need multiple definitions or classifications? What are the numbers o

[Mpls] Some clarification please

2003-12-03 Thread m1r3201
Tom L. notes that most of the numerical goals of affordable housing have been met: As always-- the term affordable housing gets used without definition of what affordable means. Also, as we now know, shelter beds, mats are being counted as affordable housing, is Tom using those numbers as p

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread Brandon Lacy
Comparing this agenda to the Alabama Chief Justice's posting of the Ten Commandments is akin to comparing oranges to Bibles. The posting of the Ten Commandments was illegal. The United States Constitution clearly delineates a separation of Church and State. Having the foundation for Judeo-Christ

[Mpls] Location of Affordable Housing

2003-12-03 Thread Leighton, Thomas J
Several recent posts have expressed the viewpoint that new affordable housing should be located in neighborhoods where such housing is not already concentrated. I share this view, and more importantly it is very much in line with City policy. As an example, the following goal statement is state

Re: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread David Brauer
on 12/3/03 8:52 AM, Michael Atherton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Mission : To involve as many people as we can, > starting with the children, in activities that promote > a Peaceful, Healthy and Non-Violent World." > > And it's intention to influence public school curriculum > is just as clea

RE: [Mpls] Political Bias in MPS

2003-12-03 Thread Michael Atherton
School Board Member Dennis Schapiro wrote: > I'd be interested in the specifics of the flyer. I think that Mr. Schapiro should be able to obtain a copy of the flyer; it does appear to be distributed by one of his schools and the contact person is one of the MPS administrative staff (Andy Vollm

[Mpls] Minneapolis Green Party

2003-12-03 Thread Dooley, Bill
Minneapolis Greens take heart. Matt Gonzalez is closing fast in the San Francisco mayor's race. See 12/3/03 USA TODAY page 5A. Headline: Green win could have impact beyond city race. Subhead: San Francisco candidate has serious shot at mayor's job, altering Dem's landscape. Bill Dooley Kenny -

[Mpls] RE: a couple responses

2003-12-03 Thread Bill Cullen
> All of the public funding for Armadillo Flats is in the form of loans. I am surprised that a "grant" must be repaid. Why isn't it called a loan? I assume the terms are very favorable or you would have gone with conventional financing? > 0 BR $363 PPL actual$469 Cullen > 1BR $490 PPL ac

[Mpls] shelter

2003-12-03 Thread m1r3201
Regarding the post about the failed attempt to get a shelter in the Love Power Church. Why is it a bad idea to have a children's mission and a homelessshelter in the same building?   Margaret Hastings-Mpls-Kingfield   

RE: [Mpls] response from PPL Executive Director

2003-12-03 Thread Pamela Taylor
Allysen Hoberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Allysen Hoberg: Why is no one asking that to the non-impacted neighborhoods where there currently is no affordable housing? Pamela Taylor: It is being asked to non-impacted neighborhoods.  They just have selective hearing and the backing of a city that ap

Re: [Mpls] Re: What Minneapolis Can Learn from Two Cities

2003-12-03 Thread Eric Mitchell
Aaron Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Police Slogan: Peter T Schmitz writes: > In Minneapolis we no longer have the "Protect and to Serve" motto on our> police vehicles. Why is that?It is my understanding that the MPD changed there tag (slogan) from "To Serve and Protect" to "Enforce and Regulate

[Mpls] Black church leaders praise Flynn for speaking out/Is Speaking Out Dangerous?

2003-12-03 Thread Shawn Lewis
Black church leaders praise Flynn for speaking out Tony Kennedy, Star Tribune Published December 3, 2003 Black church leaders praised Catholic Archbishop Harry Flynn Tuesday for illuminating the problem of racism in Minnesota, saying organized religion has too often fostered attitudes of rac