Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn McMahon wrote:
If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing
all of my emails to /dev/null.
the issue wasn't a personal accusation. you're welcome to sign (or not
sign) your emails as you wish.
in any event, the
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]:
I'd just like to hear, why signing PGP for mails going to mailing lists
is not so wanted thing to do? And yes, I agree 100% - let's not start a
flamewar or anything. The whole thing is, that I'm a newbie to the whole
Pretty Good
begin quoting what Robert Conde said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:20:46PM -0500:
When I send a pgp encrypted message to someone, I can't read it in my
fcc folder. I set the fcc_clear variable so that the FCC is stored
unencrypted. I read in some FAQ that it's possible to configure Mutt
Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
If you didn't want to start a flamewar, I'm fear, you asked the wrong
question ;-)
Well, that wasn't my intention at all
* Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 15:41]:
this page contains a long-obsolete link for ncurses
(has not been active for about 6 years):
http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/
indeed. I did not notice since noone told me. *grin*
I have removed the link now.
I would assume
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 12:45]:
macro pager ,@r13on enter-commandset display_filter=$HOME/local/bin/rot13;macro
pager \\cx ,@r13off 'Toggle ROT13
decoding'\ndisplay-toggle-weeddisplay-toggle-weed
macro pager ,@r13off enter-commandset display_filter=;macro pager \\cx ,@r13on
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 01:40]:
At least connditionals are absolutely missing
in mutt's config file functionality.
.. and also missing with setup files
for elm, pine, outlook, ...
Btw: which mailers *have* a setup language?
ok - emacs. any else?
Sven
Hi!
Is anyone else having trouble with threads that look like spaghetti? The
following is from one of my mail boxes:
5 L Mar 23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] willing slave
6 L Mar 23 Artur Grabowski |--
7 L Mar 23 Morten Liebach | |--
8 L Mar 23 Robert Urban| |-
9 L
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:51:28PM +, jmc wrote:
Hi!
Is anyone else having trouble with threads that look like spaghetti? The
following is from one of my mail boxes:
5 L Mar 23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] willing slave
6 L Mar 23 Artur Grabowski |--
7 L Mar 23 Morten Liebach
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:12:20AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:51:28PM +, jmc wrote:
Hi!
Is anyone else having trouble with threads that look like spaghetti? The
following is from one of my mail boxes:
5 L Mar 23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] willing slave
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:33:19PM +, jmc wrote:
Sorry, it's running on GNU/Linux, no platform :-) Home made.
Ncurses version 5.2.
I really don't know anything about locale, I simply run the machine at
UCT, and always compile with --disable-nls, because I only use US_English
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:33:19PM +, jmc wrote:
Tab expansion? Sorry, I don't follow. How could I check?
that's simpler to see (but less likely). ncurses can be configured to send
tab characters (making some
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-22 20:31 -0500:
* Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 15:51]:
Can't you BCC all messages to one address, and filter with procmail?
that's what I'm doing :) The problem is, when I
post news (nntp-patch), I don't want a Bcc header.
well,
This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc:
ignore *
unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent
ignore x-status x-uid x-keywords x-accept-language x-imagebase x-fid
ignore x-mailer x-priority x-fid x-fver x-fit x-fcol x-fcat x-fdis
ignore x-extensions x-bg
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
BOFH excuse #178:
Short
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]:
This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc:
ignore *
unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent
ignore x-status x-uid x-keywords x-accept-language x-imagebase x-fid
ignore x-mailer
* Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 19.26 +0100]:
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]:
This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc:
ignore *
unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent
Look at the man page; it doesn't say anything about the order of ignore
or unignore statements. It just says unignore is a list of exceptions to
the ignore statement(s).
That's the precedence; unignores are exceptions, they take precedence over
ignores no matter what.
man muttrc
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;)
LOL! Well, maybe
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:09:42PM +0200:
Ah well, I've decided not to use signed mails in mailing lists if
there isn't any reason for me to do it. What matters, is, that PGP
works with my Mutt - whole other thing is, if I use it... ;-)
The same reasons
Moin,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 20:14]:
The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists.
The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail.
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists.
The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail.
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100:
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Yes. For instance, there are far more people who would be impacted by
a forgery. There are also far more
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200:
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected
more appropriate place for testing it for the first time); or would
I get a
Hi,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 20:34]:
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100:
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Yes. For instance, there are far more people who
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:47:42PM +0100:
I take it from this that you are in fact not interested in a
discussion, but in a flame war. Have fun!
I'm sorry, if you'll point out which of my statements was personally
insulting to you, I'll be glad to
begin quoting what Rob Reid said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:53:39PM -0500:
Derot-13? *grin* Where's Enrot then? ;-)
The correct answer, of course, is Houston.
msg25991/pgp0.pgp
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At 8:50 AM EST on March 24 Sven Guckes sent off:
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 01:40]:
At least connditionals are absolutely missing
in mutt's config file functionality.
. and also missing with setup files
for elm, pine, outlook, ..
Btw: which mailers *have* a setup
begin quoting what Rob Reid said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:01:35PM -0500:
If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, then
this mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's bloated, and
which one would we use? thread would probably recur less frequently.
It
At 8:25 PM EST on March 23 Sven Guckes sent off:
* Rob Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 01:18]:
Hey, you changed your attribution string! ;-)
Is there a way to pass the location of the current folder to the shell?
no. unless you have set MAIL before starting mutt - then it'll be
begin quoting what Robert Conde said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:07:40PM -0500:
What would you suggest as an alternative?
Like I said, it's a tradeoff. If it's important that you be able to refer
back to the contents, encrypting to yourself is necessary.
If it's important that you NOT be able
At 2:56 PM EST on March 24 Shawn McMahon sent off:
begin quoting what Rob Reid said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:53:39PM -0500:
Derot-13? *grin* Where's Enrot then? ;-)
The correct answer, of course, is Houston.
Close, but I think you meant Houstot.
--
Emotions are alien to me.
--9amGYk9869ThD9tj
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Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus:
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]:
This is really weird. I have the following lines in my
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700:
Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my
grandmother and nobody else?
Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them
out; that will work as a general
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure.
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we
speak!
Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13.42 -0700]:
[...snip...]
Then one day my grandmother started using IncrediMail (I think) and
now all her emails have 3 screenfuls of useless X- headers that I
want to hide, without hiding the X- headers of *nix-using people
who have creative
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Alas! Rob Reid spake thus:
You'd think they're the same but obviously derot is for reading and enrot=
is
for sending.=20
Uh? How are they different? rot13 is
--L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4
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Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at
01:42:09PM -0700:
Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:53:18 -0700]:
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure.
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages!
--KdquIMZPjGJQvRdI
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Rob Reid spake thus:
If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, =
then
this mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:02:55PM -0700:
Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail?
Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work.
msg26006/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:53:18PM -0700:
So long, suckers.
You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-)
msg26007/pgp0.pgp
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Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED], I guess?
Yeah. I didn't cover anything like my message id's up, I didn't want to
get too elaborate. I was just making a point that mail can be spoofed
and signing your messages prevents this :)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Sometimes I wonder
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 14:09:41 -0700]:
Alas! Rob Reid spake thus:
If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, then
this mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's bloated, and
which one would we use? thread would probably recur
Okay, did som testing (nothing thorough, mind you), and this seems
to be one of many(?) ways of doing it in Mutt.
message-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'ignore x-'
message-hook '~f @' 'unignore the headers I want to see'
I guess these'll take precedence over the original values in your
.muttrc.
--9ADF8FXzFeE7X4jE
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
So long, suckers.
=20
You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-)
;D
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
What is a magician
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 16:06:29 -0500]:
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:02:55PM -0700:
Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail?
Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work.
Hi,
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 22:02]:
Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at
01:42:09PM -0700:
Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for
my grandmother and nobody else?
Or list all of
How do i setup an app like gqview to view any attached images? something
like using urlview?
--
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
hurtling down the highway. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
Chad Young - Registered Linux User #195191 http://counter.li.org
At 4:09 PM EST on March 24 Rob 'Feztaa' Park sent off:
Alas! Rob Reid spake thus:
If mutt could pass variables like the current folder to the environment, then
this mutt needs a scripting language, but no, that's bloated, and
which one would we use? thread would probably recur less
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 05:37:38PM -0400, skidley wrote:
How do i setup an app like gqview to view any attached images? something
like using urlview?
Put
image/gif; xv %s
image/jpeg; xv %s
in your ~/.mailcap
--
William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8 CPU
At 4:37 PM EST on March 24 skidley sent off:
How do i setup an app like gqview to view any attached images? something
like using urlview?
No, put this in your .mailcap, or ~/.mutt/mailcap (see manual)
image/*; gqview %s sleep 7
I think there was a recent thread about whether or not the
On Sun 24-Mar-2002 at 02:09:41PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
I can't think of anything that can be done with a scripting language
built into the .muttrc that can't be done with a bash script being
evaluated with backticks inside the regular .muttrc. (but then again,
I haven't put
--doKZ0ri6bHmN2Q5y
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alas! Nicolas Rachinsky spake thus:
Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work.
=20
formail with -I
You mean something like this
Alas! Rob Reid spake thus:
I don't understand why mutt so desperately needs a scripting language.
I wasn't saying it does.
Sorry, I didn't mean _you_ were saying that, but some people have and I
didn't get why.
What's wrong with the backtick evaluation that the .muttrc already has?
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 15:09:38 -0700]:
Alas! Nicolas Rachinsky spake thus:
Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work.
formail with -I
You mean something like this at the beginning of my procmailrc:
:0 Whf:
* X-Mailer:
* thus spaketh William Park (Mar 24 at 04:45PM):
Put
image/gif; xv %s
image/jpeg; xv %s
in your ~/.mailcap
based on my faith in xv to render anything even remotely an image, i
have the following entry:
image/*; xv %s
--
timothy lupfer
http://sadlittleboy.com
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200:
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected
more appropriate place for testing it for the first time);
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we
speak!
Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on this list. You're all a bunch of
assholes! I'm going to unsub as
* Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 16:18]:
I've got a couple of things to tweak yet before
I'll be as productive with multiple folders as I
was in NS, but otherwise I'm a really happy camper.
I'm so used to having a 3 way split in my mail
program: folders on the left side,
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this demonstrates exactly why you ought to sign all of your
messages, ESPECIALLY if it's to a public list. Had Jussi been in the
habit of signing all her messages, people would have noticed that this
message wasn't signed, and immediately questioned
--FCuugMFkClbJLl1L
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Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
LOL Rob (I presume?)!=20
Yeah that was me ;)
Well yeah, I really am on the verge of should I or should I not.
Next time, the
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Alas! Rob 'Feztaa' Park spake thus:
:0 Whf:
* X-Mailer: IncrediMail.*
|formail -I X-
I'm not sure if it makes much difference, but I ended up using this:
:0
* Rob Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 20:20]:
At 8:25 PM EST on March 23 Sven Guckes sent off:
* Rob Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-22 01:18]:
Hey, you changed your attribution string! ;-)
(sssh! dont tell anyone - ok?)
Is there a way to pass the location of the
current folder
Dear
all,
I come across mutt
email in the internet search.
I am administer some
applications runing at Unix (SCO Openserver 5.5) and also administer
the Linux Redhat 6.2
mail server. All users are working with PCsrunning Microsoft windows
(w2k,98,NT4)
within the
company network.
* J. Effendi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 00:55]:
[..] Can I use mutt to replace this kind of
notification messages to all users easily?
No.
if mutt is not appropriate, then any recommnedation?
anything but mutt, please.
seriously - mutt sends email. that's it.
if your users don't read
Is there any way of telling mutt to execute an interactive command (e.g.
collapse-all) in .muttrc short of using push?
--
// [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
There are no differences but differences of degree
between different degrees of
* Russell Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 01:34]:
Is there any way of telling mutt to execute an interactive
command (e.g. collapse-all) in .muttrc short of using push?
eh? no. why? push not good enough? heh?
Sven
Drew Raines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe the suggestion was something to the effect of
send-hook ! . 'my_hdr Blah: foo'
That won't quite work. Internally, Mutt translates the simple pattern
. into ~A, which matches everything. Negating that matches nothing,
which is the effect
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Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-)
You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry.
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot
Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus:
Sven [mmh.. ye... deeper.. oh, yeah..]
You sure that's a massage you're getting? ;)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Of course there's no reason for it, it's just our policy.
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* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 05:33]:
Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus:
Sven [mmh.. ye... deeper.. oh, yeah..]
You sure that's a massage you're getting? ;)
I dunno... but I'm certainly HOOKED. hehe
Sven
Wim Kerkhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm so used to having a 3 way split in my mail program: folders on
the left side, message list in the top right, and preview in the
bottom right. With that setup, it's a breeze to drag and drop
messages to any of my 138 folders.
Mutt gives you more
J. Effendi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can I use mutt to replace this kind of notification messages to all
users easily? Where can I get more information about it?
Others have answered your first question, but I have a suggestion. You
may wish to install and make use of the Samba package for
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