Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Sean I almost take you, driving a '96 Toyota and a '97 Honda :P Talking about scooters, I've an Honda Vision 110 (probably not available in the US). 2.2l/100km (107 mpg), price was 2000€ (2700$) and top speed 80km/h (50mph). Of course I don't recommend you to go into the highway with it (personal

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

With bikes I am like with women, I like them all! On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Don't get me wrong Paul it is one of the best looking bikes made, and from > what I've read a brute to ride. If money were no issue I'd own one just for > the prestige factor along with on

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] The screw

I don't think that screw is supposed to be there. -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Matthew Ward wrote: > Well they say a picture is worth a thousand words > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsu

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Don't get me wrong Paul it is one of the best looking bikes made, and from what I've read a brute to ride. If money were no issue I'd own one just for the prestige factor along with one of the Duc classics. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

This car has and will have the same problem that all the "new" hybrid and hi-millage cars have. Unless you drive a ton of miles a year - If you do the math you should just buy a used car for $5,000 and flip it in a couple of years. My 1991 Volvo wagon gets an average of 29 mpg in Honolulu. W

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Cant win them all but I still love them On Jun 30, 2014 8:33 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > Besides the only Aprilla to race the isle of Mann last year blew up on the > first lap. It was almost an entire Honda win. > > Allen Thomas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

The 97 VMAX had a louder exhaust note than the previous model I had (92) and the later 2007 model. It had black mufflers. I don't know whether it was just that model year or not Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > Graham, yes you do have to launch full thr

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Yep, I liked it Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > Sabers are cool bikes I'd love to get an 1100, the old school muscle bikes > are a blast. The VTEC is a love/hate thing, it adds a really cool intake > sound and an almost turbo like kick. But it takes so

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Besides the only Aprilla to race the isle of Mann last year blew up on the first lap. It was almost an entire Honda win. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

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Graham, yes you do have to launch full throttle at least once! And I agree on the VMAX. Paul I'll never be able to afford an Aprilla anything. LOL. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from

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Sabers are cool bikes I'd love to get an 1100, the old school muscle bikes are a blast. The VTEC is a love/hate thing, it adds a really cool intake sound and an almost turbo like kick. But it takes some getting used to and early on it made for some serious pucker factor moments. Javier hates my bik

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Unless you have one of these... http://www.apriliausa.com/mobile/motorcycles/rsv4-factory-aprc-abs/overview.html Yea sorry that's the ultimate sport bike imho... but more then 2x the cost of our orignal post On Jun 30, 2014 8:13 PM, "Graham Rogers" wrote: > Allen, you don't have to launch a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I like the exhaust of a 97 yamaha VMax, sounded like a V8 Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > > The only V4 experience I've had so far was a V45 Sabre. I loved that exhaust > note. > > -Kyle > >> On Jun 30, 2014 6:55 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: >> They are grea

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Allen, you don't have to launch at full throttle the first time you know Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > That is a good deal but a couple of thing wrong with it 1st they require > premium gas, and 2nd it is not a great bike for a beginner. I almost fell

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

The only V4 experience I've had so far was a V45 Sabre. I loved that exhaust note. -Kyle On Jun 30, 2014 6:55 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > They are great bikes, mine is the best handling road bike I've ever > ridden. Comfortable too, and the sounds it makes are wonderful. > > Allen Thomas > > --

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They are great bikes, mine is the best handling road bike I've ever ridden. Comfortable too, and the sounds it makes are wonderful. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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That is a good deal but a couple of thing wrong with it 1st they require premium gas, and 2nd it is not a great bike for a beginner. I almost fell off the first time I launched at full throttle, I actually had to pull the clutch and use the rear brake to keep from flipping upside down. Numerous tim

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I'm wishing I had $7K to throw around and space in the garage. -Kyle On Jun 30, 2014 6:14 PM, "Kurt Nolte" wrote: > Thanks Kyle, now I'm drooling. AGAIN. > On Jun 30, 2014 6:16 PM, "Kyle Munz" wrote: > >> Like this one? >> http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4515821257.html >> >> >> >> -Kyle >> >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Thanks Kyle, now I'm drooling. AGAIN. On Jun 30, 2014 6:16 PM, "Kyle Munz" wrote: > Like this one? > http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4515821257.html > > > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Allen Thomas > wrote: > >> Kurt, I agree, the 2007 RWB is the one to have. >> >> Allen Thoma

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Lol On Jun 30, 2014 5:55 PM, "Allen Thomas" wrote: > paul I would not glue ANYTHING to MY nub. ;-) well more of a stick but you > get the point. > > Allen Thomas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsubsc

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Like this one? http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/4515821257.html -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Kurt, I agree, the 2007 RWB is the one to have. > > Allen Thomas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motor

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Kurt, I agree, the 2007 RWB is the one to have. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@google

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Javier, I rode a scooter once it was terrifying at like 25 mph. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+un

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

paul I would not glue ANYTHING to MY nub. ;-) well more of a stick but you get the point. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an ema

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

Check that you have spark on all four. If so then I would guess a fuel blockage. Dirt in cabs maybe. So just test the spark on all four by using a fifth spark plug. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Dave wrote: > > any ideas as to what it could be Graham? > >> On Monday, Jun

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: CB700SC hard to start

My '85 had the same problem, I tried rebuilding my starter motor, however the commutator was shot. I replaced the starter with one from Rick's Motorsport Electrics and now bike starts and runs better than it has in years. Here's a link.http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/ I highly

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

The aprilia sr50 runs about 3k new... and imho worth every penny.. just avoid anything chinese unless it has a gy6 clone engine (150cc) New they run about $1500, used with needing some work anywhere from free to $800. They dont get the mpg that the 50s do. But much better power. On Jun 30, 2014 5:0

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Im redneck enough that I would use the broken fork tine (probably plastic fork) glued onto my nub... But a non functioning speedo has gotten me out of a few tickets in the past (note to self... develop a speedo interrupt switch) On Jun 30, 2014 4:36 PM, "Tommy Hill" wrote: > Quite the conundrum!

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

any ideas as to what it could be Graham? On Monday, June 30, 2014 3:38:33 PM UTC-4, kiwinPA wrote: > > The coils are the same for the 83 550' the CB650SC and the 700S. I have > one coil but I doubt the coil is your problem, graham > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Dave > wro

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Doing 100mph on that little scooter has to be the most terrifying thing ever. Living now in Cambridge I have been thinking seriously in getting a scooter. My daily commute is only 2 miles, which makes me feel almost ridiculous suiting up in firing one of the big boys. But evert scooter I see is qui

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Quite the conundrum! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I had a 2007 Chevy Malibu as a company car. 2.4 liter 4-cylinder. After it got broke in, it would get 40Mpg on the highway. I got 42 mpg one day with a tail wind. Thank you, Ross -Original Message- From: "Kurt Nolte" Sent: ‎6/‎30/‎2014 1:52 PM To: "nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com"

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Are those termites eating your speedometer needle? Shh, don't look at that. -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > I used a flat tooth pick, even sanded it with 400 grit, no one ever > noticed the difference > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 30, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Tommy

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

I used a flat tooth pick, even sanded it with 400 grit, no one ever noticed the difference Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Tommy Hill wrote: > > HA! No more excuses. > > Now, what do I make a new one out of? A toothpick will not suit me! > > -- > You received this message

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Oh I've had it out, I know the steps, but I can either start removing those two fairing bolts or stick the key in the ignition, and the key usually wins. However, while I'm riding the speedo nubbin annoys me and makes me think I should have been wrenching... -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:04

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

HA! No more excuses. Now, what do I make a new one out of? A toothpick will not suit me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to night

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Yeees. Though I'll have mine in RWB please. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > :-) > ​ > IMG_0308.jpg > > ​ > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Kurt Nolte > wrote: > >> Coincidence.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Kyle, Not to worry about time. Had my dash out and in the house in 10 minutes. 1. Loosen, but don't remove lower of two bolts on each side (aft) of front fairing. (10mm) 2. Remove the clips and pins on lower forward fairing 3. Remove bolts in step 1. and gently remove fairing, unplug lig

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

:-) ​ IMG_0308.jpg ​ On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > Coincidence... same here! Especially V4 motorcycles, because then there is > no suck. > > -Kurt > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Alle

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Coincidence... same here! Especially V4 motorcycles, because then there is no suck. -Kurt On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > That is why I ride motorcycles! > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Kurt Nolte > wrote: > >> You can, but then they start to suck in the bottom e

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

That is why I ride motorcycles! On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > You can, but then they start to suck in the bottom end. Scooter CVT tuning > is about moving the suck around until you can live with it. > > -Kurt > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Allen Thomas > wrote: >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

You can, but then they start to suck in the bottom end. Scooter CVT tuning is about moving the suck around until you can live with it. -Kurt On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > You do know you can change the weights and pully sizes in a CV to tune it > for more top end? A bu

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

You do know you can change the weights and pully sizes in a CV to tune it for more top end? A buddy of mine has built some pretty radical scooters. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > Increased sure, but perhaps not greatly. There's only so much 12hp can do, > and the gearing i

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Increased sure, but perhaps not greatly. There's only so much 12hp can do, and the gearing in a small scooter CVT SUCKS for speed. I do admit that jumping to 400 was probably a bit of a stretch. I pulled that number out as the next readily available scooter size I could think of. -Kurt On Mon,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

The aerodynamics of high speed are wildly different than the aerodynamics of highway speeds. F1 and other high speed racer designs are actually intended to create resistance in very specific ways (generating downforce for traction) while downforce is never a problem in your average grocery getter.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

400CC Seriously?? A Ninja 250 can do 90 stock. In an super aerodynamic shell, top speed would be greatly increased. They use that design in electrothons. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Kurt Nolte wrote: > Considering the average 150cc scooter mill will barely do highway speeds > with a scoote

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

The coils are the same for the 83 550' the CB650SC and the 700S. I have one coil but I doubt the coil is your problem, graham Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Dave wrote: > > Graham- > > I thought you just might have what i need, and you are relatively close if I > remember

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Sorry, I am going to replace the speedo drive when I do the front end swap, and I just haven't gotten around to getting a replacement tach drive cable. The last one fell out one day going to work. Eventually I think I'll probably replace the whole cluster with a Koso unit, but not until I get the p

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Fuel wise, there is nothing to realistically compare it with except maybe those 1900 bicycles with the 5' tall front wheels, ha ha. Seriously though, it is virtually a single wide go cart frame that rests on 4 big 15" car tires: lots of coasting power. Indy 500 being the fastest racers would no

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Considering the average 150cc scooter mill will barely do highway speeds with a scooter, probably not Allen. Maybe a 400cc scooter engine. -Kurt On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > I think something like this with a 150CC scooter motor/swingarm setup > could easily do 100 MP

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

Yes you do. I don't know the specs for your bike but it is a hall effect sensor, so basically you will get spikes of voltage as the engine cranks. There will be two sensors one for each coil pack, so as long as both of them make a pulse of roughly equal value then they should be working. Whether ti

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Mine still has the nub vaguely pointing more or less at the speed I'm going. That's not good enough for me though, if only they didn't bury the gauge so deep in the instrument panel. Some day I'll get back to trying to fix that, but I can ride, or I can wrench, and usually riding wins out over wren

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I think something like this with a 150CC scooter motor/swingarm setup could easily do 100 MPG and probably do highway speeds. I'd like to make one that has leaning steering as a prototype then race it at the track. Then eventually build a larger one, maybe a tandem using a GL1500 engine/swingarm d

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

How do you check the pulse generator output? I guess I need to buy a multimeter! On Monday, June 30, 2014 1:20:53 PM UTC-4, Allen wrote: > > Take an extra spark plug and see if you are getting spark on all 4 > cylinders, before going out and buying new coils. If no spark then check to > make s

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

Graham- I thought you just might have what i need, and you are relatively close if I remember correctly, I'll check for spark and let you know soon. On Monday, June 30, 2014 1:20:29 PM UTC-4, kiwinPA wrote: > > Check the spark and I'll check my inventory, graham > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

Dammit, Allen! I was counting on you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

My GS just has half of a speedo needle. However since the speedo drive is shot it doesn't work anyway, so it matches the tach. Guages are overrated anyway. LOL. On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > I painted a tooth pick with a magic marker and glued it to what was left > of

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Wait, WHAT? 51/48 (Prius) mileage figures versus 25/35 (Camry) mileage figures don't justify a $3k price difference? Not even full $3k if you're comparing base to base, closer to $2k. Even in the top trims you're paying only $5k more for the Prius versus a standard Camry and $1.5k more versus a top

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

I painted a tooth pick with a magic marker and glued it to what was left of the old needle Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > > I'm in the same boat and googled how to remove the needle. One guy mentioned > the "fork" method where you slide the tines around th

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

I'm in the same boat and googled how to remove the needle. One guy mentioned the "fork" method where you slide the tines around the shaft then gently pry, this method worked great on a spare tachometer that I have but so far hasn't worked on the speedo. The other method is where you hold the back o

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I'm not saying that the car isn't aerodynamic, I just don't think that it was the primary driver of the styling. #1 was to make it unique so that buyers could signal their concern for energy conservation to other drivers. Look at the Honda Civic hybrid, cars sitting on lots that nobody wanted, mean

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

Take an extra spark plug and see if you are getting spark on all 4 cylinders, before going out and buying new coils. If no spark then check to make sure the leads going to them are connected. Then use an Ohm meter to check coil Primary and secondary resistances. Then check the pulse generator outpu

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

Check the spark and I'll check my inventory, graham Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Dave wrote: > > My 86 700s just started running really badly with no power. I had to keep > it wide open and downshift out of overdrive just to maintain speed with > traffic on the way home

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Kyle, if the aerodynamics were done for aethetics then why do all hybrids, and most new vehicles have the basic shape, K-back or kammback design? Remember the Prius was the first mass produced Hybrid and the Honda that came out shortly thereafter looked almost identical. Supposedly its Cg is .26. A

[Nighthawk Lovers] Help with speedo needle

How do I get this thing off? Seems like I am gonna break it. Have bent (and fixed) the center post but don't wanna pry harder. Must fix it while on there? Needle broke off and gonna make a new one. What should I make it out of? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

I just bought two new ones on Ebay. Use this guy. I had a great experience with him. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-SETS-OF-IGNITION-COIL-FITS-HONDA-CB700SC-NIGHTHAWK-S-1984-1985-1986-/271456936293?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1984%7CMake%3AHonda%7CModel%3ANighthawk+700S&hash=item3f3

[Nighthawk Lovers] anyone have parts to sell in central PA?

My 86 700s just started running really badly with no power. I had to keep it wide open and downshift out of overdrive just to maintain speed with traffic on the way home. I think one of the coils just went on me. Is there anyone near Williamsport, PA that has one (or two) that are in good sh

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Weight (officially ~2900 pounds so not tons plural more) matters very little in highway mileage calculations. Aerodynamics are the major player in the high end numbers, and the Prius' kammback styling is spot on for aerodynamic efficiency at steady speed. -Kurt On Jun 30, 2014 12:36 PM, "Kyle Munz

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

48.1 mpg in summer, normal driving in city or on trip at 70-75 mph; 50 mpg driving very carefully; 52 mpg, holding up traffic Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > If a Prius can't get any where near 80 mpg then I doubt this will. I have to > think Toyota

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Or you could buy a Fit for ~16k, get an honest 40 mpg on the highway, have space for four and a crapton of cargo, and enjoy a known quantity of quality and service availability. Tiny cars in the U.S.seem to be selling between 800-1200 units per month, except the Versa which is enjoying a boom in p

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

The Prius is constrained by being a 4door sedan, plus it weighs tons more. I'm also not convinced that the engineers were tasked with making the most efficient vehicle, but rather a vehicle that seemed more fuel efficient than the competition and stood out with unique styling so that their drivers

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

If a Prius can't get any where near 80 mpg then I doubt this will. I have to think Toyota has a wind tunnel and highly experienced engineers. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Road Trip Photos

Im going to flat out say it, you.have bigger balls then most of us here. I had a dream of building a modular hybrid bike from a rebel 450 frame. Then take it cross country with my SO... then sell the plans to mother honda... but.it will probably never happen On Jun 29, 2014 9:14 PM, "Melissa Hickso

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

I.agree with what has been said here On Jun 30, 2014 10:50 AM, "Tommy Hill" wrote: > Cool! I have a spare petcock at home! Bonus! Might reconsider... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To unsubscribe fro

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I agree that the projected numbers seem outlandish, but even if it gets 45-50 it would be great. I just see this going the way of the Tucker On Jun 30, 2014 11:38 AM, "Graham Rogers" wrote: > You could still buy a lot of gas for a 35 mpg focus for example, which > costs half the cost of the Priu

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

You could still buy a lot of gas for a 35 mpg focus for example, which costs half the cost of the Prius. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Kyle Munz wrote: > > Prius mileage, without having to be a "Prius Driver" is a selling point for > me. > > > -Kyle > > >> On Mon, Ju

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Prius mileage, without having to be a "Prius Driver" is a selling point for me. -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Joey Kelley wrote: > Even if it only gets 40 MPG - that is still very good for a car and if the > price is under $7000, you could buy a lot of gas for the price difference >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Even if it only gets 40 MPG - that is still very good for a car and if the price is under $7000, you could buy a lot of gas for the price difference as compared to a traditional sub compact. Just a comment. -Joey On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Kyle Munz wrote: > Mythbusters

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Mythbusters proved that bikes aren't all that aerodynamic, especially with the human flapping around on top of them. You never really see the drag coefficient numbers for bikes either. That will probably make most of the difference, still, I'll believe 84MPG after Car and Driver slogs one cross cou

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

My cbr1000f is also water cool, 4 cylinder, has fairings (well they are a mess but they are there), and presumably carries less weight than Elio. You can't get more than 45mpg out of that bike. Here we are talking about twice as much. I know is not the same engine, but is a reference point to make

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Javier, it will be a water-cooled 3 cylinder engine in Indy race car dynamics. And if ethanol corn liquor gas is over-tuned, at least 20% more gas mileage (from my observations) and at least 20% less gas processing fees. Just think, kt would be better than starting another World War! On Mond

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

Cool! I have a spare petcock at home! Bonus! Might reconsider... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...

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If it is ergonomically structured, then it would envelope good posture around you. The only bad thing, like needed on a motorcycle, it may not allow multiple positions to get the blood flowing to parts that you have been sitting on for a while. I did see where it originally was supposed to be D

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Supposedly it'll be a 900cc 55hp 3cyl built by IAV. According to the following link you can replace the stock airfilter with a performance filter!!! http://eliomotors.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/engine-qa-with-iav-2-21-14/ -Kyle On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > I agree it w

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

Yea just drain and replace the filter. Fix the petcock and most likely clean the carbs and you should be golden. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

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I agree it would have to be a hybrid electric to get that kind of mileage, or extremely under powered by say a 250cc motor. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec

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Bike supposedly ran 3 months ago. Won't start now. So draining out oil and all, fix diaphragm, and should be fine? Even if, worst case, gas sat in there 3 months? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscrib

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

and helps clean the engine Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > > A bad petcock diaphragm leaks into the vacuum line and floods the cylinder > then it leaks past the rings. You entire tank can empty that way. As long as > you don't run it that way it won't ha

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

Sitting for a long time and gas goes through the carbs into the crankcase. I had a suzuki gs550 that had a crankcase full of gas and oil. It had been sitting for years. I actually started the bike before realizing it, quickly shut it off. The sound of the engine gave it away. No harm done and b

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB700SC hard to start

Starter motor rebuild. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

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Same here a GL1500 power plant in a leaning chassis. Allen Thomas On Jun 30, 2014 8:40 AM, "paul annen" wrote: > Ive been wanting to build something similar except my.powerplant was > going to be a small diesel or goldwing > On Jun 29, 2014 8:15 PM, "Phil" wrote: > >> http://eliogenuine.eli

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

A bad petcock diaphragm leaks into the vacuum line and floods the cylinder then it leaks past the rings. You entire tank can empty that way. As long as you don't run it that way it won't harm anything. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ni

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB700SC hard to start

Allen..after running one hour or more...when turned of it will take an hour or so to cool down...then it will start again...thanks for prompt reply Mustapha -Original Message- From: "Allen Thomas" Sent: ‎6/‎30/‎2014 4:42 PM To: "Nightwawk Lovers" Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB70

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

Ive been wanting to build something similar except my.powerplant was going to be a small diesel or goldwing On Jun 29, 2014 8:15 PM, "Phil" wrote: > http://eliogenuine.eliomotors.com > > [image: The Next Generation Elio] > > $6800 next tear maybe in old GM factory in New Orleans, LA. The only

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] A new kind of motorcycle I might want next year

I'm interested in the concept - and for the price - I guess I'd be willing to consider taking the gamble. It does give one to wonder how it would be for long distance travel though. Bit small compared to a car. -Joey On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > My dad is on the pr

[Nighthawk Lovers] Gas in oil

I was considering a 700S in Cincinnati. My brother in law went to look at it for me and said when he removed the oil cap, gasoline came out. About a cup! How does this happen? Only thing I can imagine is sticking float valve(s) and seeping rings! -- You received this message because you a

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It doesn't lean, so it is a car IMHO. Allen Thomas On Jun 29, 2014 11:27 PM, "Phil" wrote: > I hear you Kurt. That's what I thought about Telsa many times (for many > years since the Internet was popular). > > The only reason I saw this one again was a CNN Money editor took a test > ride in a ro

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] CB700SC hard to start

Mustapha, is this when you go to start the engine or when it is running.? If it is when you start it then Javier is right, take the starter motor apart and clean it. Allen Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. T