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m] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:52 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: National broadband > >When I discuss this with clients that have replaced T1s and Frame-Relay > with Broadband ( xDSL and Cable ) I tell them that ‘Up To’ begins with ZERO > … and t

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My Business Class line from Comcast has an SLA on it. Doesn't mean it's honored but there is one. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband When

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g process, not a one time event ! ' From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband True that “up to” often means “less than.” But I use Comcast, and sometimes I get more than

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ll, although other ISPs-or even the same ISP but in other areas-may be worse. John From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband http://www.pcworld.com/article/192128/the_real_truth_about_broadband

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rastructure for DSL (since users can't be more than whatever distance from that equipment for DSL to work). From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband And the telco went bankrupt? I

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On 16 Mar 2010 at 11:39, David Lum wrote: > Thoughts, comments? Is this really system-admin related, or is this a troll for political rants about the "proper role of government"? -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finall

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o: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Yes, I know that they use fibre optic cable to the street curb, but then it's just standard cable going to my house. So, can anyone explain the difference to me? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource

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explain the difference to me? MMF From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I'm sure the telco had multiple reasons for going bankrupt, bu

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since users can't be more than whatever distance from that equipment for DSL to work). From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband And the telco went bankrupt? I'm in AT&T and

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.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband The telco-the ones who refused to lower their prices despite the change to the competitive landscape. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9

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The telco-the ones who refused to lower their prices despite the change to the competitive landscape. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband Which one the telco or the cable company

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plant and scale down future build outs. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Where are you at? This is the first I’ve ever heard of Verizon de-emphasizing FIOS … -sc

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Wonder how the news of Googles plans will affect this. From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I read about that in a financial publication a few weeks ago

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Really? Interesting… -sc From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I read about that in a financial publication a few weeks ago. Verizon basically declared that they spent a lot of money

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build outs. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Where are you at? This is the first I’ve ever heard of Verizon de-emphasizing FIOS … -sc From: Jon Harris

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Similar... I VPN in to home. -sc > -Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:36 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > Yeah... I SSH into my linux box at home and

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n [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I figured that was the answer, but I guess after all my years in computers and trying to secure them, I'm anul about denying outside access to my home computers. There

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ginal Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband It affects us nerds who like to host things on our connections. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]

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Useful if you are running services like a web server, SMTP, etc -sc > -Original Message- > From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > I&#x

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It affects us nerds who like to host things on our connections. -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I'm not sure I completely understand this "

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ct me as I don't really work out of my house except an occassional VPN connection to my office, and my computers are turned off when I'm not home. MMF -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:10 AM To: NT System Adm

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I read lots of comments here about this subsidizing the poor. Maybe it will, but I also think it will help those that live too far from the telco. My sister owns a small ranch in rural Missouri. She's not some corporate farmer, nor is she living in a McMansion on the outskirts of an urban area. She

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Fl 32601* > > *Office (352) 393-2741 x320* > > *Cell (352) 215-6944* > > *Fax (352) 393-2746* > > *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4* > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:49 AM > > *To

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ng Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Nat

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rom:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:26 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: National broadband > > > > I only wish FIOS was available for my place. It is across the road from me > and Verizon has stopped push

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et.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:30 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > Yeah. No-IP is nice as it detects when my IP changes and in a very short time > (15 minutes or so, I think) it updates my DNS entry and all's well again. :-) &

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Where are you at? This is the first I've ever heard of Verizon de-emphasizing FIOS ... -sc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband I only wish FIOS was available for my

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Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Ha, Regional Cable Co in my little podunk town of 1000 (of when we've had DSL, Wireless, and Cable services for years) wants $250/month for a "Business Plan" with static IP's. Same plan I had for a remote warehouse with Comcast was $80. W

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k.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband IT geeks are not typical of the end user. Many of home users use the one supplied by their ISP. A few will have hotmail/yahoo/google accounts as well but their primary wou

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ay, March 18, 2010 10:10 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: National broadband > > > > Ha, Regional Cable Co in my little podunk town of 1000 (of when we've > had > > DSL, Wireless, and Cable services for years) wants $250/month for a > > &q

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My Verizon FIOS business class service is $160/mo for 15Mbps up/down and 5 static IP's (all usable). -sc > -Original Message- > From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:10 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Nation

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8:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband As Steven Caesare said it would be nice to have a static IP at a reasonable price without a whole bunch of restrictions. Unfortunately Windstream deems a static IP to be part of a "business" plan and wants me to pay over

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] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:57 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: National broadband > > > > Which one the telco or the cable company? Most people will not change just > because they can. There has to be a difference greater than the pain

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:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband Which one the telco or the cable company? Most people will not change just because they can. There has to be a difference greater than the pain to change will cause. How

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Posted here as well for relevance...:) Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the inten

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paying the same price for slower speeds. They recently filed for bankruptcy protection. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Well, just checked and my

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-Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > Well, just checked and my ISP has 6 Mbit internet available for the same > price I'

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Indeed... -sc > -Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:51 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > Yeah... it would be nice to have a static IP, and not have to

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slower speeds. They recently filed for bankruptcy protection. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Well, just checked and my ISP has 6 Mbit internet

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scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I wish that "reasonable" plans allowed for a static IP and didn't have stupid clauses about what services you could run... -sc > -Original Message- > From:

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ystem Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6 Mbit. I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP. -Original Message- From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:

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It's a four-hour drive for me. Less if traffic and weather are cooperative. :-) From: paul d [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Wow, John, you could've put my name to this email. I"m b

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W then I am. Two day trip for me.) > From: john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us > To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:37:50 -0400 > Subject: RE: National broadband > > The Average Joe has no clue what BitTorrent is, though. > > Streaming

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] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband MiFi devices are EVDO <-> 802.11b/g and is it's own firewall. No ethernet in the devices I've seen. jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: > How pcs can run on mifi and can a fw or swit

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stem Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6 Mbit. > I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP. > > > > -Original Message- > From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myr

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Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6 Mbit. I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP. -Original Message- From: hg [mailto:hgedr...@myrealbox.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: N

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works for a lot of folks. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I agree John. My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the most part. My Comcast

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27;ve been using it for a while :-) -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband - Now Cell/SAT Service Cisco was not the first to offer EVDO connectivity.

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Ahh I see --Original Message-- From: Phil Brutsche To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband - Now Cell/SAT Service Sent: Mar 17, 2010 6:22 PM Cisco was not the first to offer EVDO connectivity. jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: > Ci

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Cisco was not the first to offer EVDO connectivity. jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: > Cisco makes a cdma router (3G) -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ ~

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rable. Much better than the car :-] -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband MiFi devices are EVDO <-> 802.11b/g and is it's own firewall. No ethernet in

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- From: Richard Stovall Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:28:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband LOL! On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Avenue Q. > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:23, Joseph Heaton wrote: >> I agree John. My big activities

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Cisco makes a cdma router (3G) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "N Parr" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:55:15 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband - Now Cell/SAT Service Anything that is wireless can hook up to a MiFi. Or it can be

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rch 17, 2010 3:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband How pcs can run on mifi and can a fw or switch be hooked up for desktop pcs? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "N Parr" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:37:06 To: NT System Admin Issues S

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MiFi devices are EVDO <-> 802.11b/g and is it's own firewall. No ethernet in the devices I've seen. jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: > How pcs can run on mifi and can a fw or switch be hooked up for desktop pcs? -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN

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Is their a fee for the repeater ??? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "N Parr" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:37:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I had a VP here on Wildblue for the past 4 years or so and he was down more t

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How pcs can run on mifi and can a fw or switch be hooked up for desktop pcs? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "N Parr" Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:37:06 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I had a VP here on Wildblue for the pa

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uckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Good point. A co-worker recently started using WildBlue, and loves it. It's actually less expensive than what he was previously paying for dialup (plus a dedi

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ch 17, 2010 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband While I haven't tried to use Hughesnet or other satellite based IP communications, they advertise that if you have a clear "view" of the southwestern sky, you can have Internet Access anywhere. I have Direc

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ginal Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband The Average Joe has no clue what BitTorrent is, though. Streaming video is another story--YouTube and Hulu are more mainst

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ystem Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband >What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need 50 - >100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up? Bit Torrent, HD Streaming. NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or fr

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Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I agree John. My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the most part. My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that. I'm not running a business out of my home or anything. What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, tha

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0 11:08 AM >>> >>> I feel like such a neoluddite... I get 10-15Mbps at home via cable modem, >>> and honestly that's plenty fast for 99% of what I do. >>> >>> >>> >>> John Hornbuckle >>> MIS Department >>> Taylor County School

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all > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:28:28 > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: National broadband > > LOL! > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> Avenue Q. >> >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:23, Joseph Heaton wrote: >>> I agree J

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>What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need 50 - 100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up? I can say that I use my home connection for email and searches. I don't download music or movies. Now, this discussion seemed to "home in" on poor people having Internet Access. Poor pe

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gt; >> >> John Hornbuckle >> MIS Department >> Taylor County School District >> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM >> To: NT Sys

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I do. > > > > John Hornbuckle > MIS Department > Taylor County School District > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE:

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What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need 50 - 100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up? Bit Torrent, HD Streaming. From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broad

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jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I agree John. My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the most part. My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that. I'm not running a business out of my home

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What if goverment ran world of war craft servers??? Would you play? Paid for by tax payers? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:28:28 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband LOL! On Wed, Mar 17, 2010

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recipient, you are hereby >> notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and >> attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly >> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive >> information for the inten

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ystem Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband Avenue Q. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:23, Joseph Heaton wrote: > I agree John.  My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the most part. >  My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that.  I'm not running a > busines

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27;s plenty fast for 99% of what I do. > > > > John Hornbuckle > MIS Department > Taylor County School District > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM > To: NT System Admin Iss

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taylor.k12.fl.us From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband >From what I gathered from this site, they just want to release the capping the >ISP's do on the available bandwidth for the cu

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Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I feel like such a neoluddite... I get 10-15Mbps at home via cable modem, and honestly that's plenty fast for 99% of what I do. John

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10 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband >From what I gathered from this site, they just want to release the capping the >ISP's do on the available bandwidth for the customers, not necessarily allow >Internet for all citizens. ISP's truly have a l

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nt: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I could run a cable up to you from our OC3... ;-) From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadba

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Issues Subject: RE: National broadband I could run a cable up to you from our OC3... ;-) From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Though I would love to see the US and all broadband

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I could run a cable up to you from our OC3. ;-) From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband Though I would love to see the US and all broadband providers give us better services, my

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Also in those days, people didn't do a whole lot of traveling, either. Mostly stayed within about 50-100 miles of where they were born, so there were strong roots to that community/state. These days, those roots are almost non-existent for the most part. I was born in Mississippi, and have li

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expanded >>>>> government.  Even going back to Washington.  No disrespect to the >>>>> founding >>>>> fathers intended, it's the nature of the beast. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Kurt Buff >>>&

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which the administration in question >>>> expanded >>>> government. Even going back to Washington. No disrespect to the >>>> founding >>>> fathers intended, it's the nature of the beast. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 16,

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In the old days (in the US, around the time of the founding) it was normal for people to consider themselves citizens of their State first, and country second. It wasn't well after the War Between The States that this changed. Mostly, I wish it hadn't changed. Kurt On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 19:05,

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ment. >> >> >> >> Didn't like either one, and still don't. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:06, Ray wrote: >> >> > And were you equally unhappy during the last administration? >> >> > >> &

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In the good old days there used to be a community and country spirit. but that is long gone In New Zealand (where i am) , the government has just announced a levy to the telecoms carriers to fund rural broadband http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1003/S00205.htm Before we gave away (sold) the

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> > >> Didn't like either one, and still don't. > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:06, Ray wrote: > >> > And were you equally unhappy during the last administration? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >&g

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Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:06, Ray wrote: >> > And were you equally unhappy during the last administration? >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:47 PM >> > To: NT Syste

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ration? > > > > > > > > From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:47 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: National broadband > > > > > > > > Another huge spending project by

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+1 Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband

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se to pay for their lifestyle choice). > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:15 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: National broadband > > > > The government always looks (based on compla

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On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:14, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > The government always looks (based on complaining of constituents) to step > in when an industry doesn't properly regulate itself - for better or for > worse, its happens.  Its what government does. But, the market *does* regulate itself

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PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband The government always looks (based on complaining of constituents) to step in when an industry doesn't properly regulate itself - for better or for worse, its happens. Its what government does. I do not believe by any stretch

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checked and also found out that the telco gets a cut of the USF to help the “farmers”. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: National broadband We are paying for it. The government subsidizes

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My thoughts are that I think this topic is riding the blurry line between technology and one's view on gov't. I have my opinions on what has been said already, but I hope that we will try to keep the politics out of this discussion. (But I'm not sure that you can really have this discussion witho

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urt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: National broadband Yup. Both Bush and Obama are all about more government. Didn't like either one, and still don't. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:06, Ray wrote: > And were you equally

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> To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: National broadband > > Should the goverment be in charge of antivirus > Poor people need antivirus and antimalware?? > > Will goverment provide means to remove malware?? > > Will the goverment issues patches to said systems?? &

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get it > More goverment > I don't like it > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > -- > *From: * "Bill Lambert" > *Date: *Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:47:15 -0500 > *To: *NT System Admin Issues > *Subject: *RE: National broadband > >

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The government always looks (based on complaining of constituents) to step in when an industry doesn't properly regulate itself - for better or for worse, its happens. Its what government does. I do not believe by any stretch that anyone advocating for socialism. Thats a very extreme outlook as

Re: National broadband

: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:47 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: National broadband > > > > Another huge spending project by our leadership…and government intervention > into our private lives.  This, like the healthcare bill, is the start of > centralized cont

Re: National broadband

> > > *Murray * > > > -- > *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:55 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: National broadband > > I dont think that my tax dollars sh

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