Re: Deadline for mailing llist changes

2012-10-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Mailing list changes are transparent- we include an internal alias from the old name to the new one so there should be no interruption in service once the move is made. From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Wednesday,

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-23 Thread Joe Schaefer
Excellent work Rob this is a great way to help manage contributors! From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at

Re: Is there a way to force website rebuild?

2012-10-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Make a trivial change to a file in templates/ or lib/ Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: It looks like parts of the CMS were down from last night until recently. I had some changes pending at the time on ooo-site and site. Now when I go in I

Re: Why a mailing list is superior to any web-based forum

2012-10-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW this is the only Apache project where forums are supported, and if a good case can be made as to why some mailing list traffic would be better served on the forums, go for it.  It's just that mailing lists are where we expect project decisions to be made because we have standard ways of

Re: Why a mailing list is superior to any web-based forum

2012-10-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
markmail carries all apache lists and has a great search interface. From: Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Why a mailing list

Re: [WWW] Web development in CMS

2012-10-20 Thread Joe Schaefer
Not that old saw again, please. From: Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org To: OOoDEV ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [WWW] Web development in CMS A few ideas were brought up for custom webapp development. The

Re: [DISCUSS]: next step towards graduation

2012-10-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
IMO- whatever Symphony code is in svn right now does not constitute a blocking licensing issue for graduation.  Obviously you will need to deal with the licensing prior to issuing any releases based on that code, but there are plenty of IBM people who are committers capable of changing the license

Re: need help with CMS anon commit! Fwd: CMS diff: 3.4.1_rn.html

2012-08-31 Thread Joe Schaefer
Just visit the good page and commit it, ignoring the page with unwanted changes. From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: OOo Apache ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 PM Subject: need help with CMS anon commit! Fwd: CMS diff:

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
Bullshit.  The policy is as old as the org itself and applies equally to every project in the org including this one.  Rob, if you had the vaguest clue about the history of what the httpd project produces you would have some idea of what the written policy is meant to cover.  People who don't

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Bullshit.  The policy is as old as the org itself and applies equally The problem is that when someone questions what the policy is, as several IPMC members have already, the response goes no further than yelling that the policy is well-known

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: The release documentation has far more precision in it than

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
Which better agrees with written policy anyway- the sigs are part of the release package to be voted on and voted on by the PMC, so even tho it constitutes individual sigs those sigs (well at least the RM's sig) are PMC-approved. - Original Message - From: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
Message- From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:07 To: gene...@incubator.apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote Which better agrees with written policy anyway- the sigs are part

Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
He uploaded to mino, still needs to complete the sync between mino and www.eu and www.us (aurora and eos). From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: rgalopp...@geek.net Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Fwd:

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件

2012-08-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
That doesn't make much sense to me  Michal given how publish is implemented.  Mind if I try publishing to see what's wrong? From: Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 1:37

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件

2012-08-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件 Hi Joe, Michal and Shenfeng-- On 08/09/2012 11:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: I just published the site without issue- there must be a language barrier here we

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件

2012-08-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
, August 9, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件 On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: I believe the situation goes like this: Shenfeng creates that directory as a copy of some other directory as the CMS anon user and someone committed that change

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice - 开放免费的文字处理软件

2012-08-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
No I'm not saying that at all.  Here is the documentation I just finished writing about this: http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref#anonymous-add From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: CMS diff: Why Apache OpenOffice: Great Software

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
The problem here is that this directory was added and committed by someone but still existed as a local modification in the anon tree.  I don't know how to resolve this without simply reverting the changes to the anon tree and losing all the edits so he'll have to start over.

Re: CMS anon changes...and applying them -- GREAT job infra!

2012-07-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Thx Kay- keep up the great work! From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:38 PM Subject: CMS anon changes...and applying them -- GREAT job infra! I would just like to give a BIG thank you

Re: CMS diff: index.mdtext

2012-07-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Different path Kay, this one's in sk/product/ not sk/ From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: michalh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CMS diff: index.mdtext Michal -- We just applied a new

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating)

2012-07-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Please be sure to decouple the source builds from downloading artifacts directly from svn.apache.org. I trust that has been done by now as what 3.4.0 did constitutes an infra policy violation, besides complicating eventual graduation moves of your svn tree. Thanks.

Re: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for localization web page]

2012-07-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
The sooner we stop clinging onto that unsupported service the better IMO. From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for

Re: CMS diff: index.mdtext

2012-07-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW I'm watching you try to commit the index.html changes... you have to actually resolve the conflicts or tell Michal to update the anon tree and resolve them for you.  Either way just clicking on the clone link won't get you past that. - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher

Re: CMS diff: styles.css

2012-07-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
I don't see any attempts to deal with these particular files from you Dave.  If it's a new directory with new files you mighttry committing from the parent dir. - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: CMS diff: styles.css

2012-07-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
Keep up the great work Michal, just please remember to [Update] your CMS working copy every so often to pull in the latest changes and resolve any conflicts so Dave and company don't have to ;-). From: Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com To:

Re: CMS diff: styles.css

2012-07-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
Watching the logs... you probably want to run Revert (or better Resolve) on brand.mdtext not the conflict-marking artifact files like brand.mdtext.mine. HTH From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: Michal Hriň michalh...@aol.com; ooo-dev

Re: CMS diff: Pakiet biurowy OpenOffice.org po polsku

2012-07-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
: Good news, I look forward to seeing these results. On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: You did the right thing in resolving the conflict. I looked at your working copy and other than there being 2 title sections for the page it looks ready to commit. Yeah, well, my

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: hagar.del...@laposte.net Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:26 AM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) Hagar Delest wrote: You've taken the fun out

Edit button for webpages?

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
One of the novel features of the openejb.apache.org site is the presence of an Edit button on most pages, which eliminates the need for people to install the CMS bookmarklet. For example see    http://openejb.apache.org/dev/website-dev.html and look at the links in the upper right corner of the

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:18 AM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) If Hagar really step back and won't continue his great job it will

Re: Edit button for webpages?

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
is definitely cool. Also, I hadn't seen the {row and {span commands in mdtext before are those extensions by the project? Regards, Dave On Jul 18, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: One of the novel features of the openejb.apache.org site is the presence of an Edit button on most pages

Re: Edit button for webpages?

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Edit button for webpages? On Jul 18, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Custom extensions yeah.  David Blevins really

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: CMS diff:

2012-07-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
Way to go folks! - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: j...@apache.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:06 PM Subject: Re: CMS diff: Thanks, Michal.  I applied your website patch. -Rob 2012/7/18 Michal Hriň

On parks, commons, and websites

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Since I'm still not satisfied that people have understood the point I've tried to make about the CMS and website management, let me couch it in a more familiar analogy so you can better understand where I'm coming from and why I do what I do. Imagine your website as if it were a giant park that

Re: On parks, commons, and websites

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Le mar. 17 juil. 2012 20:04:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a écrit : Since I'm still not satisfied that people have understood the point I've tried to make about the CMS and website management, let me couch it in a more familiar analogy so you can better understand where I'm

Re: On parks, commons, and websites

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:29 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites I like the spirit of your analogy.  The overall message is that, if something needs doing, and you see it needs doing

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:10 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) Let's be clear: I don't have the desire to take the effort to do such thing.

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:54 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) On 2012-07-17 2:38 PM Joe Schaefer wrote: From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:57 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) 2012/7/17 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing list can accomplish for themselves. That's the best you're going to get Larry. - Original Message - From:

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
larry.gus...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:12 PM Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) On 2012-07-17 3:01 PM Joe Schaefer wrote: Larry, I trust you reserve this behavior for this mailing list and do

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) T he following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are invited to be committers on AOOi.  It is derived from

Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

2012-07-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of) T he following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site Hi Hagar, [...] I don't have the time to learn another system again (as some have correctly

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
makes no difference to anyoneif only a select few areexpectedto even try. - Original Message - From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:49 PM Subject: RE: Java download

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
unfamiliar with the documentation see nothing wrong with what Hagar offers here is not surprising, those people aren't going to read and apply it either.  Oh well, it's your community folks. - Original Message - From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
, but to discuss it with an aim towards improvement.  That's all I've tried to do here. - Original Message - From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: RE: Java

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site On 2012-07-12 1:06 PM Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message - From: Hagar Delest

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
, despite his attitude towards it. - Original Message - From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site Hagar Delest wrote: Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 21:19:50 CEST, Joe

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:59 PM Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello

Re: Java download link on AOO site

2012-07-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out?  Isn't Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page himself with the CMS? JFDI Hagar.  This does not need discussion unless you require more documentation about how to use the CMS. - Original Message - From: Marcus (OOo)

CMS build system core logic

2012-07-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
This is mainly for Dave's benefit, but I've realized it'd be helpful to provide some examples of how to exploit the CMS's core build logic so I added a pair of them here:     http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref#core-logic HTH

Re: CMS build system core logic

2012-07-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: This is mainly for Dave's benefit, but I've realized it'd be helpful to provide some examples of how to exploit the CMS's core build logic so I added a pair of them here:     http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref#core-logic HTH

Re: CMS anonymous user improvements

2012-07-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Good job Rob- I've added a link to the appropriate docs on the www site: shortened url is http://s.apache.org/cms-anonymous-tutorial. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Monday, July

CMS anonymous user improvements

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
This weekend David Blevins and I worked on streamlining the anonymous user support in the CMS.  Two major improvements are the introduction of Quick Mail and anonymous clones. Quick Mail is the analog of Quick Commit but for anonymous users- it is enabled by default and makes submitting patches

Re: CMS anonymous user improvements

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:41 AM Subject: Re: CMS anonymous user improvements On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: This weekend David Blevins and I

Re: CMS anonymous user improvements

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:15 AM Subject: Re: CMS anonymous user improvements On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: CMS anonymous user improvements

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Bug fixed, sorry.  Please try again. - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: Re: CMS anonymous user improvements

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice (Incubating)

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice (Incubating) On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM,  robw...@cms.zones.apache.org wrote: Clone URL (Committers

Re: CMS diff: Apache OpenOffice (Incubating)

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Just a brief caution here: when you clone another user you are creating an unmanaged dependency on their working copy tree, which means if for some reason it becomes time to destroy that working copy, yours will be destroyed as well. For this reason it may be a good idea to Force a New Working

Re: Would like to help, but...

2012-06-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
Please do not feed the troll.  Thanks. - Original Message - From: Shannon Jacobs sha...@alumni.rice.edu To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:51 AM Subject: Would like to help, but... Feels like I should start by saying that I'm actually one of

Re: [Mailing lists] User mailing list promotion

2012-06-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
You have a bug in your xml: missing /td or somesuch. Sadly anakia doesn't return a non-zero exit status when a page fails to build, which causes the CMS to go ahead and delete it. - Original Message - From: Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc:

Re: [Mailing lists] User mailing list promotion

2012-06-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
anakia fun? - Original Message - From: Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Mailing lists] User mailing list promotion Am 06/17/2012 01:34 PM, schrieb Joe Schaefer: You have a bug in your xml

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW, part of migrating to a TLP involves relocating your svn tree to top-level, thereby breaking any links to svn urls in 3.4.0's source tarball.  No we do not support redirects for svn.a.o, and I doubt Subversion does either. I trust 3.4.1 will therefore address this issue properly going

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
violates infra policy just as much as distribution from any other apache.org website would be.  I'm not sure we've written this down anywhere but it is certainly well-understood as infra policy for as long as I have worked here as a contractor. HTH From: Joe

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process) On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW, part of migrating to a TLP involves relocating your svn tree to top-level, thereby breaking any links to svn urls in 3.4.0's source tarball

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
This situation doesn't seem to be diffusing itself, even tho I have tried to explain that the 3.4.0 release deps packaging does not comply with infra policy. Surely there is a middle ground here- that the missing release deps package simply be generated from those tarballs in svn.  So long as the

Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process)

2012-06-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Moving Category-B tarballs (was Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process) On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae

Re: [PROPOSAL] [USER EXPERIENCE] - Create ooo-ux mailing list

2012-05-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
FWIW, I meant what I said about promoting the idea of a separate UX group here.  Early efforts to fork off subgroups are often failures at Apache, and they don't need to be if you keep all the traffic on the dev list.  Using tags like [UX] in the subject are a good way of getting a gauge for how

Re: [PROPOSAL] [USER EXPERIENCE] - Create ooo-ux mailing list

2012-05-17 Thread Joe Schaefer
mailing list On 2012-05-17, at 07:47 , RGB ES wrote: 2012/5/17 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com: FWIW, I meant what I said about promoting the idea of a separate UX group here.  Early efforts to fork off subgroups are often failures at Apache, and they don't need to be if you keep

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS Hi Joe, An enhancement idea: On May 11, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: With 1100 builds so far

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS - Original Message - From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
/view.pm. HTH - Original Message - From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS Hi Joe -- On 05/11/2012 11:18 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: With 1100 builds so far the ooo-site CMS

Re: [WWW] AOOo french website

2012-05-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
Please ratchet the tone of this conversation back to civil levels- thanks! From: FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [WWW] AOOo french website Do you see them mentionned on the

Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
With 1100 builds so far the ooo-site CMS instance is only 350 builds behind www.apache.org as the most-used CMS tree so far.  I monitor the CMS logs daily to evaluate usage and this project publishes about as often as all our other projects combined, which really makes me wonder where we'd be here

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS On May 11, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Joe, On May 11, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote

Re: Feedback on the CMS

2012-05-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: svn commit: r816885 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
Too soon.  The builds are taking longer than normal, so please check them before attempting to publish. http://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging - Original Message - From: ima...@apache.org ima...@apache.org To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: svn commit: r1336367 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
Get rid of the BOM at the front! - Original Message - From: r4z...@apache.org r4z...@apache.org To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: svn commit: r1336367 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/topnav.mdtext Author: r4zoli

Re: Shout Out for our Mentors!

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
I wouldn't make too much fuss over what the mentors did. Yes this project had a very good pool compared to what most incubating projects have to deal with, but the public accolades surrounding the successful release belong to the committers and the supporting community on this project.  Most of

Re: Hello all, I'm Xin Li, the UX designer of Symphony

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Schaefer
From my perspective it's been a welcome change from the old way to see this PPMC operate as one big team, and not as a collection of little fiefdoms breaking up bits of control over various bits of the codebase. Apache projects work best IME when there are no boundaries for committers to cross

Apache mirrors are seeded

2012-05-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
We actually had our bandwidth controls a bit too tight for the first day, but in general I'd suggest anticipating about 24 hours between the time dist/ is populated and the time an adequate supply of mirrors have picked up the packages.  Please continue to notify infra in advance of any dist/

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
From what IP address are you trying to connect? If you send it to me privately I'll check our firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's little else we can do. From: lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent:

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

2012-05-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
require. From: Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 1:08 AM Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website? 2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com: I explained

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

2012-04-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply replace closer.cgi with aoo-closer.cgi in your paths.  Please don't forget this or users could be directed to mirrors which have opted out of carrying AOO releases.

Re: [WWW] Apache CMS don't accept my changes

2012-04-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
ooo-site is the project name for www.openoffice.org From: Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [WWW] Apache CMS don't accept my changes Hi all I was making a small change on the

Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

2012-04-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Branches/tags are just server-side copies, which are O(1).  Not a big deal for us- it's the merges that can be painful. From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Release Apache

Re: [WWW] two questions about DL button on home page...

2012-04-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
Kay- please hop onto #asfinfra sometime soon so I can speak to you about the requirements for AOO regarding Apache mirrors- you CANNOT use the ordinary closer.cgi script for AOO! It'd be easier to explain the situation to you over some dialog that is best accomplished on irc. Thx.

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
...@poeml.de To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? Hi Joe, Am 13.04.2012 um 20:47 schrieb Joe Schaefer: Not what I need atm drew.  I'm looking for the names/addresses of people associated with this PPMC who

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
Right. The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement that with sf help. That we all agreed to this only to have sand kicked in our faces again is merely status quo for how this project operates. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:00 AM,

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution? On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 03:23 -0400, Joe Schaefer wrote: Right.  The plan all along was to migrate the mirrorbrain network to apache mirrors and supplement

Re: Ditching our mirror system for an inferior solution?

2012-04-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
Not what I need atm drew.  I'm looking for the names/addresses of people associated with this PPMC who manage the network- ie the local analog of Henk.  Peter is one guy, are there any others? From: drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com To: Joe Schaefer

Re: RC vs. Release ( was Re: [RELEASE]: showstopper Bug 119215 )

2012-04-12 Thread Joe Schaefer
You should have exactly one tag for the release candidates. You can either use straight version numbers, in which case you burn a version number on a failed vote, or you can use RC candidates in the tag/tarball name, in which case you can iterate over the RC number on separate votes. The first

Re: [DL LOGIC] How to choose a mirror when more than 1 is available?

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
Not true re Apache mirror system scripting.  While some people avoid the ezt templating involved in a typical download page by just using closer.cgi, the fact is that most projects use it successfully.  For example see httpd's download page with links generated by the download script pointing

Re: [DL LOGIC] How to choose a mirror when more than 1 is available?

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [DL LOGIC] How to choose a mirror when more than 1 is available? On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openofficeorg-site-staging

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
My bad- fixed the bug in the build script.  Please tweak that file again to have it properly built- thx. - Original Message - From: build...@apache.org build...@apache.org To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 12:47 PM Subject: buildbot failure in

Re: [DL LOGIC] How to choose a mirror when more than 1 is available?

2012-04-07 Thread Joe Schaefer
If you're really paranoid about the ASF mirrors you can use ezt to embed the [preferred] mirror inside some javascript within the page and run a test HEAD request on the url to ensure it exists. I don't see the point of the MirrorBrain stuff at this point tho- will just make things more messy

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