How to subscribe..

2012-10-13 Thread jan iversen
Hi. can anyone give me a hint on how to subscribe to this mailing list. Empty mail does not seem to work nor does subscribe in the subject. I am just starting to work on a change in the translation process (coordinated on ooo-L10 list. rgds -- Jan Iversen

help for ubuntu needed.

2012-10-14 Thread jan iversen
Hi I am a newbie, trying to build AOO 3.4.1 on ubunto 12.04. I have it nearly running but build -all fails in step instsetoo_active, with the following message: More than one new package in directory .deb/en-USinprogress But the only directory in that path is en-USwith_errors. the rest of

Re: help for ubuntu needed.

2012-10-14 Thread jan iversen
- Hash: SHA1 Hello Am 14.10.2012 19:22, schrieb jan iversen: Hi I am a newbie, trying to build AOO 3.4.1 on ubunto 12.04. do you have special requirements to build it yourself. In general it is easier to install the DEBs from http://www.openoffice.org/download/ Regards Mechtilde

Re: help for ubuntu needed.

2012-10-14 Thread jan iversen
October 2012 20:17, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Jan, On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 07:22:11PM +0200, jan iversen wrote: Hi I am a newbie, trying to build AOO 3.4.1 on ubunto 12.04. I have it nearly running but build -all fails in step instsetoo_active

discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-16 Thread jan iversen
Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes on open issues I could find. Please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10proc.pdf and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Localization_AOO I hope we can have a discussion on the open issues,

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-16 Thread jan iversen
: On 10/16/12, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes on open issues I could find. Please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10proc.pdf and http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki

Re: OpenOffice

2012-10-16 Thread jan iversen
I can only agree with that statement. I have been using openOffice for many years and developed for and with apache tools, so I was pleased that apache got openOffice. But having said that, I think some marketing is needed, some statements like we are here and now that we have settled in, we are

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-16 Thread jan iversen
Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/16/12, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for asking but what is ML discussions ? Mailing list archives. This emails are publicly available on the web. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-l10n/ I will happely update

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
18:22, jan iversen wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes on open issues I could find. Please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/File:L10proc.pdfhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10proc.pdf and http

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
..). thanks for your input. jan On 17 October 2012 10:06, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 16/10/2012 jan iversen wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes on open issues I could find. Please have a look at: http

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
, combining some of the directories. That would be robust and work without change when we get new source files/directories. rgds JanI On 17 October 2012 10:06, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 16/10/2012 jan iversen wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes on open issues I could find. Please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10proc.pdf and http

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
strong suspicion that they are not always identical. rgds Jan I. On 17 October 2012 16:12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I did not see that file, that is what I want to make available for each

Re: save as HTML format.

2012-10-17 Thread jan iversen
Thanks, that was was I needed, as I wrote I am getting blind :-) rgds Jan I. On 17 October 2012 17:23, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Jan, On 17.10.2012 15:50, jan iversen wrote: In writer etc. I can use save as and save the document in html format. Can anyone please point me

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

2012-10-18 Thread jan iversen
Gratulation both with the graduation, but also your new job. Could someone please put a link to the press release on www.openoffice.org/da with the following text: --- Apache Software foundation annoncerede i dag at ApacheOpenOffice nu er et Top-Level Projekt under Apache paraplyen (se

Re: Apache OO General Questions

2012-10-18 Thread jan iversen
In my humble opinion it should be possible to have a shared code base, shared bug fixing but separate features !! When big companies like SAP, IBM and firmer SUN can do what, it should be soo much easier for us, being all volunteers working with one goal, to make quality software free of roalties

CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/da%2Findex.html jan iversen Index: trunk/content/da/index.html === --- trunk/content/da/index.html (revision

Re: [WWW]: shared ideas and looking for feedback

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
It would be a good idea to have the same structure and then one directory with country special parts...as you say it makes it easier to maintain, and with the extra directory nobody is limited. jan On 19 October 2012 10:22, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, yesterday I had

Re: CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
of the story, maybe a sentence or two, and then link to this page for the full story: http://www.openoffice.org/da/graduation.html -Rob 2012/10/19 jan iversen anonym...@apache.org: Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org

Re: [WWW]: shared ideas and looking for feedback

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
If pootle used SVN, you would at least have it in SVN automatically :-) jan. On 19 October 2012 13:51, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, yesterday I had problems to find a good place for the German

Re: CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
(in the long term) we could simplify thing and e.g. say we use mediaWiki. jan. 2012/10/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org 2012/10/19 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com: Hi Rob I just followed your youtube video :-) and CMS sent this off, more or less automatically. One thing I didn't

CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/da%2Findex.html jan iversen Index: trunk/content/da/index.html === --- trunk/content/da/index.html (revision

Re: CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
2012/10/19 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com: Got it, my failure (it was obvious a bit too late when I made it) I will do a new CMS session after lunch. It seems that mdtext is just an abbreviation of mediaWiki, would life be easy if the gurus of all these different forms could get

Re: CMS diff: DA.OpenOffice - En komplet fri kontorpakke

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
) possibility to add a note to the committer. The page is ok for now, and in a week or two, I would like to push this news into a news list. Thanks for your help. have a nice day Jan I. On 19 October 2012 15:21, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: 2012/10/19 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com

Re: Estimating contributors by looking at wiki accounts?

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
I think your idea of filtering out account that actually contributed is a wise thing, especially because our product has many end-users that want to be informed but do not contribute. As a developer I do not care, but thinking of some of the ongoing discussions in other forums (like: nearly

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
That is a BIG +++1 from me. Being a new contributors, I could have saved a lot of stupid questions, had I had a reading list. I have spent quite a number of hours (and that of others too) finding things, everybody knows. It would be good to have 1 wiki page with a suggested reading and items to

Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to be proud of !! Would it be an idea, to put a link in the on openoffice.org to this page, e.g. in the news area with the name (download statistics) ? Jan. On 19 October 2012 19:44, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
, 2012 at 1:55 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to be proud of !! And intriguing. It shows 62 downloads from the Vatican City. So Pope Benedict, of course. But who are the other 61 ;-) Would

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
I had a funny feeling, that I was the drop that made it flow over :-) I will make a lists of what I missed and post it on l10n and then we can take that as a starting point. jan. On 19 October 2012 20:04, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, jan iversen

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
Thanks for your reply. On 19 October 2012 22:33, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/10/2012 jan iversen wrote: Would it be an idea to have 1 UI file pr directory in main (that would be so easy to implement) and 1 Help file pr directory in helpContent2 ? Yes, this might work

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
I think it is a good starting point, however I dont like the notation level 1, is looks like a graduation process, and I have to ask myself where am I on that latter. 1) Introduce yourself (by the way I think I have forgotten that). why do it on the mailling list, when Wiki ask you for more or

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-19 Thread jan iversen
I think it is important to remember, that a volunteer is not signing up for anything. A volunteer, in my view, is a person who wants to help with his/hers skillset...so if we start saying you have to pass level x before continuing we have already lost (At least I can relate that to myself) I

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
Sorry, I think I was a bit to argumentative last night, I really like your idea I have added a few comments below. jan. On 20 October 2012 00:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a good starting

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
00:24, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:16 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is important to remember, that a volunteer is not signing up for anything. A volunteer, in my view, is a person who wants to help with his/hers skillset...so

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
I really like the logo on the openOffice.org site, it is (at least to me) more modern and eye-catching. We should only use 1 logo, that is simpler and for the end-user more understandable. Jan. On 20 October 2012 16:28, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: See upper left here:

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
+1 to consistent branding but I admit I cannot follow the details here it is beyond my scope :-) BUT I trust your suggestions. janI On 20 October 2012 20:21, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 jan iversen

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com I really like the logo on the openOffice.org site, it is (at least to me) more modern and eye-catching. +1 We should only use 1 logo, that is simpler

Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? jan. On 20 October 2012 21:23, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/get-it-here.html This logo has an integrated incubator reference in it as well. I think Drew made

Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry for the slang. By respin I meant taking whatever vector source file (SVG, perhaps) that Drew used for that button originally, and then remove the incubator

Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!

2012-10-20 Thread jan iversen
+1 On 20 October 2012 23:09, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/20 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:40 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to have the same logo all over, respin I assume would not do the job ? Sorry

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-21 Thread jan iversen
, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:47 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: 3) +1, but I will never understand why it is a mailing list and not a forum, where it is so much easier to look at history Oh please, not again... mailing lists have many

proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-21 Thread jan iversen
I have finally finished my proposal for a new workflow. please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10procNew.pdf I have tried to implement the comments (on the document describing the existing workflow) from the community, and at the same time avoid non-essential themes that

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-21 Thread jan iversen
. Oktober 2012 um 23:52 schrieb Alexandro Colorado: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-21 Thread jan iversen
20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-21 Thread jan iversen
On 22 October 2012 00:01, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have finally finished my proposal for a new workflow. please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:L10procNew.pdf I'll take

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
: On 21.10.2012 18:16, jan iversen wrote: Now I am the one that is confused (again). Is the directory mediaWiki active or not ? The extension in that directory is built only if you used the --enable-wiki-publisher configure option. Herbert

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
Sorry, You wrote configure option...please forget my mail. janI On 22 October 2012 10:49, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I thought --all meant just compiling it all :-) I tried to do man build to get a list of all switches, which of course did not work

build --all and clean.

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
I have made a build --all, after which I use configure to set other options. Now is there any way I can clean all objects etc. from the previous build. I thought build --all --clean would do it, but build does not recognize --clean I cannot find it in wiki. thanks in advance for help. JanI.

Re: File: readme.xrm

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/21/12 2:16 PM, jan iversen wrote: There is exactly one file with extension .xrm main/read_license_oo/docs/readme/readme.xrm is there a reason (apart from history) for it being in .xrm or could it be converted to e.g. .xhp ? If so we could get rid of one more

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
--all and should have done with --with-lang ? thanks in advance. rgds Jan I On 22 October 2012 10:36, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 21.10.2012 18:16, jan iversen wrote: Now I am the one that is confused (again). Is the directory mediaWiki active or not ? The extension

Re: File: readme.xrm

2012-10-22 Thread jan iversen
+1, That is a very good point !! But may we can still write it as plain text, put some tags in, and use sed to split when generating installation sets ? janI On 22 October 2012 18:00, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.netwrote: jan iversen wrote: As far as I can see on the usage

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-23 Thread jan iversen
working with the mediawiki sources, because the reason I do this was to fix a couple of problems I have found. Jan. On 23 October 2012 10:06, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source

Re: Updated Stats page

2012-10-23 Thread jan iversen
+1, fine page. Monthly should be enough. Would it be worth to consider to include the country discussion (e.g. list top 5 countries, and the total number) ? Jan. On 23 October 2012 17:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've moved the download stats to its own page:

Re: Updated Stats page

2012-10-23 Thread jan iversen
A report would serve the same purpose, and posted with regular intervals (like 1 month), with figures based on e.g. last month, last half year. jan. On 23 October 2012 18:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:23 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1

Re: Extensions website unavailable?

2012-10-23 Thread jan iversen
I have no problem with download, but extensions is down seen from spain as well, but extensions have been rather unstable the last couple of days. I do not know why. jan On 23 October 2012 17:31, John Myerson john.myer...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: The link

Re: Updated Stats page

2012-10-23 Thread jan iversen
+1 to both the page you just made and the idea of a new column with regular intervals. Jan. On 23 October 2012 20:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:10 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: A report would serve the same purpose, and posted

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
+1, that was something I could really have used some weeks ago :-) Maybe a word about active volunteers might not be harmful (I think I am in that state now) Jan I. On 23 October 2012 23:30, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
, and rebuilt/reinstall main/swext/mediawiki IT WORKS. So, please excuse me, but it seems to me that the extension do have a problem, or ??? rgds Jan I. On 24 October 2012 12:52, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com

Re: [SOURCE]: code repo move after graduation

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
Question: If have made a svn co on the incubator version, will I have to do a new svn co on the new path, or will svn update (as usual) work ??? rgds Jan I. On 24 October 2012 18:16, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: +1 openoffice Ditto for bugzilla. Pedro. ps. FWIW, it would've been

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
again, your document are SUPER...the rest is just my experience. jan. On 24 October 2012 10:09, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: +1, that was something I could really have used some weeks ago :-) Maybe a word about active volunteers might not be harmful (I think I am in that state now

svn update, simple question.

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
Hi. If I do a svn update trunk (I have all sources stored in directory trunk, do I then need to run configure again ??? my system seems to be spinning, after svn update I cannot run build in the single directories that all worked before svn update. Simple question, hopefully simple answer :-)

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
+1 Anything is better than nothing !!! and afterwards it can be improved. jan On 24 October 2012 18:49, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/24/2012 09:40 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:30 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: After a day of work, maybe

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
Thanks for your kind words. see below please: On 24 October 2012 19:49, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jan, On 12-10-16, at 12:22 , jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Finally I have finished describing the current process, and also combining all the notes

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
May I politely ask if there are other comments or more importantly objections ? If not I will continue with the process and keep you posted, please remember comments are also welcome as the new workflow takes shape. Jan I. On 24 October 2012 20:18, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Volunteers, Contributors, Committers, PMC members -- is there any way to consolidate these lists?

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
On 24 October 2012 20:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We have the following today: 1) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html -- This lists a variety of people involved in the project, independent of status. 2) I'd like to have a place for new volunteers to put their

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
+1 On 24 October 2012 21:08, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As you have probably noticed, I'm engaged in a variety of initiatives to grow the community, bring in more volunteers, etc. One additional piece that I think would be useful is to add a new field to Bugzilla to indicate the

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-10-24, at 14:35 , jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: May I politely ask if there are other comments or more importantly objections ? Press on. And expect to be patient: this is a volunteer effort. I 'd also, if I were you, see about

Re: discussion on new l10n workflow

2012-10-24 Thread jan iversen
be just perfect. jan. On 24 October 2012 22:08, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Jan, more information about ApacheCon can be found here: http://www.apachecon.eu/ Am 24.10.2012 22:03, schrieb jan iversen: Where can I read more about ApacheCon EU or NA ? I cannot quite follow you

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
Juergen: could we use the snapshot build as basis for a branch where I can start working (and can you do it) ? Jan. On 25 October 2012 07:21, Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com wrote: I'm downloading windows and mac install package and will do BVT and general testing against it. 2012/10/24 Jürgen

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
2012 10:25, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto: I cannot tell if the problem is in the extension, but the behavior is as follow: 1) I do a confgure --with-lang --enable-wiki-publisher

Re: svn update, simple question.

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
clean. I worked in another project, where the build required you to open 3 shells, and start different commands at different stages, that was challenging compared to this :-) have a nice day. jan I. On 25 October 2012 11:03, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 24.10.2012 18:54, jan iversen

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
Sorry for expressing it badly. Yes I do mean a branch based on the same version, because with the snapshot we know the state of the whole source (at least it is compileable). Jan. On 25 October 2012 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/25/12 9:04 AM, jan iversen wrote

Re: svn update, simple question.

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
On 25 October 2012 13:03, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Jan, On 25.10.2012 11:09, jan iversen wrote: Now I know what I did wrong, I did run configure again but not in a new shell (forgot the environment variables). Good. Do you happen to know which environment variables were

Re: apache2.conf file for openoffice.org server.

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
:22, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:48 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi In order to test web page changes offline, I am configuring my own apache server, and would like to see the configuration of the openoffice.orgapache server, but I

Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
Ups...that´s the problem, I will fix that. Tested a small change and it works. thanks. jan I On 25 October 2012 16:28, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 24.10.2012 18:17, jan iversen wrote: Roberto: I cannot tell if the problem is in the extension, but the behavior is as follow

Re: apache2.conf file for openoffice.org server.

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
will have another look at the templates (it is never too late to do a good thing). Jan. On 25 October 2012 17:55, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:04 AM, jan iversen wrote: Thanks for your as usual very informative instructions. I did that, BUT it does not tell me

[proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
To my knowledge, articles that are marked outdated with a reference to a newer article stays in Wiki. Would it not be a good idea to remove such pages, in order not to confuse users ?? There are however no means, which I can find, to do that ? Reason for my idea/question is that I am looking at

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-25 Thread jan iversen
inactive projects. Still good conversation to debate. On 10/25/12, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: To my knowledge, articles that are marked outdated with a reference to a newer article stays in Wiki. Would it not be a good idea to remove such pages, in order not to confuse

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
private mail adresses/bugzilla etc. Thanks for using time on my proposal. Jan. On 25 October 2012 23:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 21/10/2012 jan iversen wrote: I have finally finished my proposal for a new workflow. please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Do you mean the outdated symbol, which should do just fine ?? Jan. On 26 October 2012 17:18, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/25/12 9:19 PM, jan iversen wrote: Maybe we could move them to an archive ?? I think we can find probably common consensus that we want

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
2012 19:03, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.netwrote: Jan; No the outdated symbol is different. {{Delete}} Is a template that puts the article in a special category to be deleted by an admin or by a bot. Keith jan iversen wrote: Do you mean the outdated symbol, which should do just

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
just two small comments. have a nice weekend. Jan. On 26 October 2012 19:43, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a

Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot base don revision r1400866

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Please allow a side-question. Can the UNO command also be used to identify where a string is used in the UI framework and not only the source code where it is programmed ? my problem is that I was told that it would be of high value to language QA if the system could provide screenshots showing

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
of it as there are still people using older versions. This can however get carried to extremes. My personal opinion is that it is probably time to start seriously considering purging version 2.x stuff, but that is a discussion for another thread. Regards Keith jan iversen wrote: So if an article

Re: [proposal] Outdated articles in Wiki

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
: 2012/10/26 jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com Thanks for clearing that up. I have just been searching for build instructions (again), and in the search response I cannot see if an article is outdated, so I had to open some before I got the correct one. Would it be an idea (if possible

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang packs only for now 2) release full installs, but for only these new languages I don't see a big difference between a

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
Just an idea, which once helped me. Typically users dont think things will go wrong so they dont pay attention to whatever we write, but one apache project had a quite clever solution (if I remember right it was Axis, but dont depend on my memory), when the installation failed it did not just

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
On 26 October 2012 23:38, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 11:20 PM, schrieb jan iversen: On 26 October 2012 23:06, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/26/2012 07:43 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rob Weir wrote: 1) release new languages via lang

extensions and translations.

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
While doing an update to the l10n workflow I think I found a slight problem. Extensions offers the capability to integrate/extend our UI. Assuming somebody writes an extension, and publishes it on http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/ how does that get integrated into the translation process ?

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-26 Thread jan iversen
+1, being a non-native english speakng person, I want to ensure that we keep the AOO stability in language versions and not just see them as nice to have add-on !! jan On 27 October 2012 01:48, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ...

Re: extensions and translations.

2012-10-27 Thread jan iversen
Got it, as Marcus explained, this is not a path to follow, but now I can write in my document that is has been discussed. jan On 27 October 2012 14:47, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:27:34AM +0200, jan iversen wrote: I agree with you, we should

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-27 Thread jan iversen
evening. jan I. On 25 October 2012 23:01, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 21/10/2012 jan iversen wrote: I have finally finished my proposal for a new workflow. please have a look at: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/File:L10procNew.pdfhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki

Re: AOO volunteers: essential skills and tasks

2012-10-29 Thread jan iversen
I think asking me would be wrong...I would come with the much to complicated answers :-) I really like the idea of simple start page, for people who want to help without getting so deeply involved as I am trying to become. May I suggest a wiki page, where we constantly (very frequently write) -

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
it if you prefer, but then where do I put a link to the more detailed description of the CURRENT process. jan. On 30 October 2012 13:30, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am guilty. see below. On 30 October 2012 13:22, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/12 10:51 PM

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
+1, such a download page additional untested language packs would allow us to make a translation official immediately with a limited responsibility, just like the snapshots. jan On 30 October 2012 14:02, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/30 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On

Re: proposal for new l10n workflow

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
If my page needs updating, feel free to do so, I actually copied all the scripts things from the other page. jan. On 30 October 2012 14:28, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/30/12 1:33 PM, jan iversen wrote: I just double checked: the pointer is: Localization AOOhttp

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
Question: Is there a rule in the apache way defining who can do QA, or is it totally up to the single teams ? Do we use the review statistic in pootle to anything, it seems actually quite clever. Jan. On 30 October 2012 16:17, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/30/12 2:46 PM,

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-30 Thread jan iversen
Hi Speaking for myself and the other 2 in the teamwe do the translation to get AOO available in denmark (again). Right now another openSource product is using the fact that we cannot release our versions in danish, to their benefit. I do not want to compete (which is why I do not write the

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
will (hopefully) soon get an extra pair of hands to help! Den 31/10/2012 11.10 skrev Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com: On 10/30/12 4:22 PM, jan iversen wrote: Question: Is there a rule in the apache way defining who can do QA, or is it totally up to the single teams ? It's up to the teams I

Re: [RELEASE] Releasing new languages for 3.4.1

2012-10-31 Thread jan iversen
filled (national team, someone else?) Jan. On 31 October 2012 14:42, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/31/12 12:18 PM, jan iversen wrote: I do not understand the release discussion assuming juergen is right. or I have misunderstand your question ;-) I think we as AOO can

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