Re: export opt in other languages

2020-01-16 Thread Thomas Beale
a new topic in the specifications category <https://discourse.openehr.org/c/specifications/6>. Make sure you watch or track the News and Specifications categories. - thomas beale On 16/01/2020 14:51, Joyce Liu wrote: Hello, How can I export opts to have them containing another language (or

New openEHR Discourse site replacing mailing lists

2019-11-06 Thread Thomas Beale
Marcus Baw, UK, who was the prime mover for the move to Discourse, and who performed the site installation and configuration. -- Thomas Beale Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <http://www.openehr.org> Health IT blog <http://wolandscat.net/> | Culture blog

Re: access on items in a cluster

2019-10-30 Thread Thomas Beale
at all ? If the fields "items" and "value" were already attached to the class ITEM it would be easier. Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org

openEHR ADL2 published as ISO 13606-2:2019

2019-10-26 Thread Thomas Beale
ble to point to this ISO standard. - thomas -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <htt

Re: difference in expressability for archetype and template definitions

2019-10-13 Thread Thomas Beale
n. Why are two specification languages needed ? And if one has elements that the other is missing, why can't those elements simply be included in the other, to reduce the amount of specification languages ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com>

Fwd: Re: openehr template specification questions

2019-09-16 Thread Thomas Beale
html I did not find a specification for the XML-Format of .opts. Is the .optx specification somewhere available ? Is it possible with one of the available workbenches (perhaps even using a CKM) to transform the .opt-XML file into an .adl file ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Sem

Re: Help list openEHR procurements, related documents and things to think of!

2019-09-12 Thread Thomas Beale
pretty much everything on this page was a (successful) procurement - thomas On 22/08/2019 13:34, Erik Sundvall wrote: Hi! I have started a wikipage about "Procurement of openEHR-related systems":

Improving FHIR - the admin resources

2019-09-11 Thread Thomas Beale
For people trying to work with FHIR, this post on how some of its Resources could be improved <https://wolandscat.net/2019/09/11/fixes-for-fhir-the-admin-resources/> may be of interest. -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant,

Re: Christmas cleaning of the openEHR wiki...

2019-08-07 Thread Thomas Beale
My personal view is that it is better to have slightly more spaces each with clear scope, even if some have not much content, rather than trying to push all content into a few spaces with larger amounts of content. To me it seems obvious what kinds of things I might find in 'ontology' and

Re: Christmas cleaning of the openEHR wiki...

2019-08-06 Thread Thomas Beale
and find the Questions link, which used to be on the home page. Maybe we should put it back? - thomas Kind regards, Silje *From:*openEHR-technical *On Behalf Of *Thomas Beale *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:29 PM *To:* openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org *Subject:* Re: Christmas

Re: Retrieving healthcare facility ID details using aql

2019-05-16 Thread Thomas Beale
p://ehr.network>ayushehr.com <http://ayushehr.com> <http://ayushehr.com> e: dil...@healthelife.in <mailto:dil...@healthelife.in> ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/

Re: AQL access of fields of potential subclasses or derived archetypes

2019-05-03 Thread Thomas Beale
esses this field with the assumption that the field is of type EHR_STATUS. I have written a type checker for AQL queries, so I am now stumbling across queries that access fields of potential subclasses or derived archetypes. Does/should the specification generally allow such a thing ? Greetings G

Re: AQL query for blood pressure from the AQL documentation

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Beale
Ian, If you were referring to the discussion about paths and data types, i.e. how do you know if you can refer to some path inside a DvQuantity if the archetype only knows about DataValue and LOINC codes, it's true that you can use such a path, if the real data (Element.value) happen to be a

Re: AQL query for blood pressure from the AQL documentation

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Beale
I'm confused... are you saying the value/value path is not a typo in the spec? On 02/05/2019 12:01, Ian McNicoll wrote: Thomas this is not a problem. The aql works as designed On Thu, 2 May 2019, 11:06 Thomas Beale, <mailto:thomas.be...@openehr.org>> wrote: Georg, can y

Re: AQL query for blood pressure from the AQL documentation

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Beale
RDERED defines 'normal_status', 'normal_range' and again 'other_reference_ranges'. The two parents of DV_ORDERED are DATA_VALUE and Ordered, both define no fields. Has this field access to be 'magnitude' instead of 'value' or am I missing something ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principa

Re: automatic demotion of lists in AQL ?

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Beale
checking point of view. Does the AQL specification allow such constructs and how is this situation interpreted ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/>

Re: constraining of laboratory_test_analyte Analyte result

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Beale
d in AQL. I am not yet that fluent in AQL, so I could need a little help in this. Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board,

Re: constraining of laboratory_test_analyte Analyte result

2019-04-30 Thread Thomas Beale
be resolved ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <http://www.openehr

Re: AQL questions

2019-04-25 Thread Thomas Beale
hin starts with. In your first query you use at0001 and at0002 each two times but they seem to have different meanings. Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthca

Re: FHIR-like terminology 'binding strengths'?

2019-04-17 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/04/2019 23:37, Grahame Grieve wrote: hi Tom well we need to be precise about what 'extended' means. If you add first level siblings to the previous version of your value set, it means your value set was incomplete when published. yes. and that's the point. The world gets by

Re: FHIR-like terminology 'binding strengths'?

2019-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
'Example' is surely a documentation level concept, not a computational one, and I would think often local. So if you are locally saying 'here's an example', it's pretty close to saying 'we recommend you use this (in this locality)'. So I would think at best it would appear in the annotations

Re: FHIR-like terminology 'binding strengths'?

2019-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/04/2019 00:16, Heath Frankel wrote: Hi Tom, I agree with Grahame, in over 20 years of implementing real systems, I don’t think I recall having seen one value-set that hasn’t been extended at some point when locally implemented. Even HL7 defined tables in V2 that were supposed to not

Re: FHIR-like terminology 'binding strengths'?

2019-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
I meant to say, in the previous post: For large domain value sets (anything beyond ?200), I assume the value set sits in a terminology service, and the archetype just has a binding straight to that. /So there is no problem with the changing contents of this kind of value set/, from the

FHIR-like terminology 'binding strengths'?

2019-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
lue set specified, clearly it is 'preferred' or recommended in some sense. If there is no value set, it's truly open. Interested in other thoughts on this, particularly a) users of this FHIR scheme and b) SNOMED, LOINC, ICD etc specialists. -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http:/

Re: Identity matching

2019-03-29 Thread Thomas Beale
pecial build-in mechanism to handle this matching issue? -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation

Task Planning Visual Modelling Language TP-VML

2019-03-07 Thread Thomas Beale
TP VML conditionals decision - thomas -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <http://www.o

Re: serialization syntax of openEHR instance data

2019-02-21 Thread Thomas Beale
contain some commonly used archetypes and some usual demographics data. I have taken a look at https://openehr.github.io/specifications-ITS-REST/ehr.html and at the "EHR Extract Information Model" but I haven't found something that satified me in this matter. Greeting Georg -- Thoma

Re: FW: Re: JSON for definitions-notation

2019-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/02/2019 14:00, Bert Verhees wrote: On 16-02-19 13:20, Thomas Beale wrote: Have a look at the Archie project <https://github.com/openEHR/archie>, you'll find very vanilla Java facilities used to do most of this work. Thank you for pointing this out. But I already knew this. My

Re: FW: Re: JSON for definitions-notation

2019-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/02/2019 01:38, Bert Verhees wrote: A few last words on this. It is easy for JSON based archetype repository to cooperate with an ADL based repository. Serializing of an AOM structure to ADL is very easy to do, this counts for the DADL and CADL part. The other way around, to convert

Re: FW: Re: JSON for definitions-notation

2019-02-16 Thread Thomas Beale
Bert, if you serialise a AOM archetype to any object dump format, you need typing information for the simple reason that there is polymorphism in the model, mainly places where the static type is C_OBJECT, C_DEFINED_OBJECT or C_PRIMITIVE_OBJECT but the attached type in a real archetype can

Re: JSON for definitions-notation

2019-02-15 Thread Thomas Beale
cal@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifica

Re: Rules in archetypes - what are the requirements?

2019-02-02 Thread Thomas Beale
On 02/02/2019 16:21, Pieter Bos wrote: *From: *openEHR-technical on behalf of Thomas Beale *Reply-To: *For openEHR technical discussions *Date: *Saturday, 2 February 2019 at 15:01 *To: *"openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org" *Subject: *Re: Rules in archety

Re: Rules in archetypes - what are the requirements?

2019-02-02 Thread Thomas Beale
On 02/02/2019 13:15, Ian McNicoll wrote: Hi Pieter, "But why would I need a function to calculate a score that is just a sum of a number of values, instead of a few +-operators?" It is an open question but one advantage of using the function approach, with simple values is that it can

Re: Rules in archetypes - what are the requirements?

2019-02-02 Thread Thomas Beale
On 01/02/2019 14:53, Pieter Bos wrote: About the calculation: Ah, I see, the assignment seems like a good solution. But why would I need a function to calculate a score that is just a sum of a number of values, instead of a few +-operators? well you might want to re-use that function.

Re: Rules in archetypes - what are the requirements?

2019-02-01 Thread Thomas Beale
Thanks Pieter, this is very useful. On 01/02/2019 12:54, Pieter Bos wrote: For us the main requirement of the rules is to calculate the value of other fields based on other fields. Only the checking of assertions has relatively little added value for the use cases our customers encounter.

Rules in archetypes - what are the requirements?

2019-02-01 Thread Thomas Beale
For many years, there has been a little-used capability in ADL which enables basic expressions to be stated such as the following in the Apgar Observation archetype: *rules* /score_sum/: /data[id3]/events[id4]/data[id2]/items[id26]/value[id44]/magnitude =

Useful openEHR terminology Links on specifications page

2019-01-27 Thread Thomas Beale
There are now some useful links to get to any openEHR terminology group on the specifications home page (scroll down) in one click. - thomas ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

BASE Component 1.1.0 Release published

2019-01-22 Thread Thomas Beale
BASE component Release 1.1.0has been published  by theopenEHR SEC . It contains a number of improvements to theArchitecture Overview

Re: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-07 Thread Thomas Beale
one thing to note: DV_PROPORTION is a more complex data structure. I would be tempted to try to determine what use has been made of this archetype so far - i.e. in creating real data. If no real data has been created, then it could in theory be changed. - thomas On 07/01/2019 12:11, Ian

Re: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-05 Thread Thomas Beale
On 05/01/2019 12:56, Ian McNicoll wrote: There is a very clear use-case for having it there - O2 levels variably and equivalently described a FiO2 which is a unitary proportion or percent. I think we need to keep it for that reason if no other. So in that case we need to upgrade the

Re: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-05 Thread Thomas Beale
penEHR-technical On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:38 PM To: openehr-technical@lists.openehr.org Subject: Re: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for % On 03/01/2019 08:37, David Moner wrote: I think DV_QUANTITY is the option here. Someone could argue that % is not a prope

Re: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 03/01/2019 08:37, David Moner wrote: I think DV_QUANTITY is the option here. Someone could argue that % is not a proper unit, but it is, both in UCUM and SNOMED CT. DV_PROPORTION should be only used when you want to maintain the numerator and denominator explicitly separated, as a

Re: Error in website

2019-01-04 Thread Thomas Beale
Ths XSD and JSON repo folders did not have index files - we have added some simple ones to display everything. We'll improve these over time. - thomas On 04/01/2019 14:20, Bert Verhees wrote: Don't know where to tell this, but there is something not okay on:

Re: Christmas cleaning of the openEHR wiki...

2018-12-19 Thread Thomas Beale
On 19/12/2018 11:19, Ian McNicoll wrote: Effectively empty: * https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/healthcare (mostly empty pages, last edit in 2011) there is some content here, but no idea who cares about it. * https://openehr.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ds

Re: openEHR on FHIR and vice versa

2018-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2018 17:04, Pablo Pazos wrote: Yes, in fact the closest we can get to automatic transformations is just defining the mappings between openEHR classes and the correspondent FHIR resources, and feed that to a system that, for a specific openEHR instance, provides a mapper user with

Re: AW: Syntax for including archetypes in SLOTs, regardless of version

2018-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2018 16:48, Sebastian Garde wrote: Hi Silje, hi Thomas, hi all, Whether the CKM validation errors from below are correct or bogus boils down to my question from before whether it is valid or not to just leave the version part out completely. In my understanding the regex needs to

Re: Syntax for including archetypes in SLOTs, regardless of version

2018-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
For reference, these are the various regexes I use in the ADL workbench . ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: Syntax for including archetypes in SLOTs, regardless of version

2018-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
.openehr.org -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <http://www.openehr.org> Chartered IT Pro

Re: Use of LinkEHR to create OPTs like we do with Template designer

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
They are already working on a local install version for that. On 13/12/2018 14:58, Bert Verhees wrote: On 13-12-18 13:08, Thomas Beale wrote: No, it is under heavy development, and will definitely become the main tool for modellers - I don't hope so, it would be bad for the OpenEhr

Re: Use of LinkEHR to create OPTs like we do with Template designer

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
On 13/12/2018 06:47, Dileep V S wrote: Do you have any idea on how to get an account for ADL designer? just working on that. ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: Use of LinkEHR to create OPTs like we do with Template designer

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
No, it is under heavy development, and will definitely become the main tool for modellers - or maybe with LinkEHR it will be equally used as well (that is also well maintained). The UI tool is not open source; some of the core libs are I think. So you will not see current source code in Github

Re: Use of LinkEHR to create OPTs like we do with Template designer

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
It's fully working but now I realise that you may have to apply for a login - they are still beta testing AFAIK. But it is already in significant use. I'll enquire the status of self-registering. - thomas On 13/12/2018 04:50, Dileep V S wrote: Have seen news in the mailing list and have been

Re: Use of LinkEHR to create OPTs like we do with Template designer

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
Have you tried ADL designer yet? This is the tool modellers are migrating to for general modelling of archetypes and templates, and it supports ADL 1.4 and .oet templates. - thomas On 13/12/2018 03:21, Dileep V S wrote: HI, I have been

Re: ID namespace for composer and healthcare facility

2018-12-13 Thread Thomas Beale
ou mean using UUIDs for EHRID, PersonID etc? Can you elaborate some more one how this is being managed? -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Manageme

Re: Reference Model as Archetypes ?

2018-12-12 Thread Thomas Beale
You can always check conformance with the ADL Workbench, it will consume ADL1.4 and ADL2. And Archie now produces the same regression results as ADL WB, so it could be used as well, and in future, will probably become the main reference tool. - thomas

Re: use_node semantics

2018-12-12 Thread Thomas Beale
s equivalent to an archetypes in which the referenced branch have been explicitely pasted into the use_node places ? Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.o

Re: ID namespace for composer and healthcare facility

2018-12-12 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Dileep, as far as I know, all target OBJECT_IDs of the various concrete types are already globally unique. I suspect the namespace attribute will not be used in the future, or will have just informational value. It would be useful to know what other implementers currently do with this

Re: Reference Model as Archetypes ?

2018-12-11 Thread Thomas Beale
8, Diego Boscá wrote: As an example, this is the Observation archetype https://pastebin.com/WhehexLR El mar., 11 dic. 2018 a las 11:53, Diego Boscá (<mailto:yamp...@gmail.com>>) escribió: It is basically AOM, serialized as ADL files El mar., 11 dic. 2018 a las 11:51, Thoma

Re: Reference Model as Archetypes ?

2018-12-11 Thread Thomas Beale
Diego, what do you use as the underlying information model in that case? Presumably the BMM/UML meta-model, i.e. things like Class, Attribute etc? - thomas On 11/12/2018 09:40, Diego Boscá wrote: Hi Georg, That's exactly how we define reference models with LinkEHR. We generated them from

Re: ADL specification question

2018-11-29 Thread Thomas Beale
WürzburgTel.: +49-(0)931-31-85516 Am Hubland Fax.: +49-(0)931-31-86732 97074 Würzburg mail:georg.fe...@uni-wuerzburg.de - ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-techn

Re: Two-level modelling diagram

2018-11-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 28/11/2018 17:56, Pablo Pazos wrote: Do we need the user in the middle? we could, although I learned a long time ago to only include relevant elements, and the point of this diagram is just one thing: where the models of information are made, and how they relate to the built system.

Re: Two-level modelling diagram

2018-11-28 Thread Thomas Beale
I was already on it ;) (FWIW, I habitually leave out terminology from diagrams only because it's so pervasive that putting it in properly would always turn a simple piece of sushi into a bowl of spaghetti...) For people who want the document context, and another well-known diagram, see here

Two-level modelling diagram

2018-11-28 Thread Thomas Beale
This diagram (SVG) is a replacement for an old one used in a lot of papers. People who want a better diagram might like this one, from a more recent version of the Architecture

Better definition of 'system_id' attribute in openEHR sytems

2018-11-26 Thread Thomas Beale
Following SPECPR-99 and this email string from 2014, the imminent RM 1.0.4 release will include SPECRM-80

Re: Postcoordinated terminology expressions in openEHR

2018-11-19 Thread Thomas Beale
ehr.org> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.or

openEHR BMM files have moved to new specifications-ITS-BMM repository

2018-11-19 Thread Thomas Beale
ded approach is to point the tool to the|components|(or|original|, if using Release 1.0.2) directory of a clone checkout area, and to manage a table of files identified by schema id (determined by meta-data inside the files), and to resolve the include references via this table. -- Thomas Bea

Re: Parsing of Archetypes/Templates

2018-11-12 Thread Thomas Beale
On 12/11/2018 16:04, Bert Verhees wrote: On 12-11-18 16:13, Thomas Beale wrote: you can, it's called a Template Data Schema (TDS), and is generated from the Template Designer and I think the new Marand ADL-designer. Its intended exactly for checking data sets... Of course you can write any

Re: Parsing of Archetypes/Templates

2018-11-12 Thread Thomas Beale
On 12/11/2018 09:44, Bert Verhees wrote: Sorry, I first replied to Pieter Bos only, now to the list. Pieter already replied to me that the question was not about XSD to check datasets was . So, read my reply, for those interested in easy validating datasets: It is possible to have an XSD

GDPR and consent - Sitra's IHAN blueprint

2018-11-09 Thread Thomas Beale
Finland's Sitra institute (something like Fraunhoffer in Germany) has published a very interesting paper on a GDPR-compliant architecture for consent <https://media.sitra.fi/2018/09/25133347/180925-ihan-blueprint.pdf>. I have not fully digested yet, but I thought I would share here. --

Re: Unique paths for slots problem if slots are filled with same archetype

2018-11-03 Thread Thomas Beale
I've just been thinking more about this problem. I agree we need to fix it, and it seems fairly likely adjusted rules for forming paths and storing archetype markers in data will be needed. But... the archetype structure mentioned is a hack for getting around the lack of order-tracking

Re: AQL on versioned compositions

2018-11-02 Thread Thomas Beale
e data - this will appear in the next RM release, very soon. hope this helps. -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR

Re: AQL on versioned compositions

2018-11-01 Thread Thomas Beale
ife.in/> e: dil...@healthelife.in <mailto:dil...@healthelife.in> ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org -- Thomas Beale Princi

Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-11-01 Thread Thomas Beale
A revised version of the services landscape is now available here . ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org

Re: e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-29 Thread Thomas Beale
As mentioned elsewhere, while I completely agree on the lifestyle / sports / wellness needs in the wider e-health context, at the moment I am not sure if special SOA services are needed or not, since these kinds of data can be committed to the EHR using the generic EHR service, just as for any

e-health services landscape - initial proposal, open forum

2018-10-23 Thread Thomas Beale
Every so often I get bored of what I am doing and start trying to draw one of those 'services roadmap' kind of diagrams. These often pretty pictures appear in slide presentations, in standards, whitepapers etc, but are not often used as a tool to help map out the road ahead. We do however

Re: AW: Unique paths for slots problem if slots are filled with same archetype

2018-10-23 Thread Thomas Beale
I'm becoming convinced that we need to make a technical change to allow the slot id be stored in the data, as suggested on the discussion thread already. So my suggestion for modellers is: assume it will get solved, and do your modelling in the natural / preferred way (i.e. don't introduce

Re: AW: Unique paths for slots problem if slots are filled with same archetype

2018-10-23 Thread Thomas Beale
On 23/10/2018 10:09, Sebastian Garde wrote: So that we don’t forget, I have created https://openehr.atlassian.net/browse/SPECPR-279 for this. I am not fussed whether it is prepended or appended, I can see tiny advantages for both. The more interesting question to me is whether this is

Re: Unique paths for slots problem if slots are filled with same archetype

2018-10-22 Thread Thomas Beale
I need to study this problem a bit more, but having read the posts here, I think the solution would potentially to allow the /optional addition/ of a '::at' appended to an archetype id at a root point. This means that all current systems and data remain valid. It is better if it is

SEC f2f meeting Oslo 5-7 Nov - agenda items welcome

2018-10-15 Thread Thomas Beale
TheopenEHR Specifications Editorial Committee (SEC) will be having a face to face meeting in Oslo, 5-7 Nov 2018, hosted courtesy ofDIPS . The agenda is beingput together here

Re: AW: Seeking clarification regarding Assumed value

2018-10-09 Thread Thomas Beale
It is still in ADL2, but harmless, so I would leave it in the specs and advise tool developers to ignore it, if that is the consensus. - t On 09/10/2018 06:29, Sebastian Garde wrote: Assumed value was a slick idea at the time, but I do agree with your sentiments now: * it is hardly or

Re: SHRINE for openEHR ?

2018-10-04 Thread Thomas Beale
's SHRINE in the openEHR world ? SHRINE is a system that distributed an i2b2 query to a network of i2b2 installations and aggregates the returned results. Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Heal

Re: DV_DURATION and magnitude_status?

2018-09-24 Thread Thomas Beale
On 24/09/2018 16:19, Pablo Pazos wrote: I think there was a conversation about being able to constraint the magnitude of a DV_DURATION instead of the String expression. The issue was the magnitude is a function, not an attribute of DV_DURATION. that is also my understanding...

Re: DV_DURATION and magnitude_status?

2018-09-24 Thread Thomas Beale
It was added to the RM years ago to support quantities in lab results, which are sometimes of the form Y etc. If I had my time again, I would have moved the date/time types out a bit so they did not inherit this attribute. Usually it is Void. - thomas

Re: DV_DURATION and magnitude_status?

2018-09-24 Thread Thomas Beale
st openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org <mailto:openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org _______ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://li

formal openEHR guidelines, GDL, expressions, Task Planning: who will author them?

2018-09-21 Thread Thomas Beale
It is early days for guideline and rule authoring, but it will certainly come. So it would be helpful to get some ideas from the community on this. You could reply here, or comment on the wiki page linked above. thanks - thomas beale ___ openEHR

Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

2018-09-19 Thread Thomas Beale
hr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-implementers_lists.openehr.org ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical@lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemanti

Re: Generic modeling and issues for querying

2018-09-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/09/2018 10:15, Karsten Hilbert wrote: Panels are like folders. Whether to define inhabitants thereof by LOINC, by arbitrary instance links, or by other means, is an implementation detail. that is more or less the design concept of the current lab archetypes; I would just say that

Re: Generic modeling and issues for querying

2018-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/09/2018 22:45, Pablo Pazos wrote: Thanks Thomas, that in fact seems to generate different nodeIDs for each analyte, thus avoids the querying issue. right. The key is that it is done in specialisations - so the querying in the generic form based on the generic archetypes will still

Re: Generic modeling and issues for querying

2018-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
Pablo, I have also seen a need for queries that distinguish analyte level objects, within the new lab archetypes. The original reason was to be able to distribute pre-built panel templates (or even archetypes) to EMR (=PEP) locations in Brasil, but your need is generic. This wiki page

Re: Identifying archetype nodes in AQL via terminology code

2018-09-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/09/2018 09:46, Ian McNicoll wrote: Hi Thomas, Would it not at least in theory be possible to ignore the atCode? We can already do searches that ignore archetype node Ids at a higher level. It would be challenging to implement but I can certainly see some value. under the covers, I

Re: Identifying archetype nodes in AQL via terminology code

2018-09-06 Thread Thomas Beale
ically wrong. Greetings Georg -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead, openEHR Foundation <http://www.openehr.org

Re: GDPR and OpenEhr.

2018-09-01 Thread Thomas Beale
I continue to wonder what will happen when a cancer patient (perhaps in a moment of depression or disaffection with care) asks for the hard delete, gets better, then has a recurrence a few years later. What does the health system do when /all the notes are really gone/? I think a better

Re: Recommended versioning strategy for Templates

2018-09-01 Thread Thomas Beale
cating the template version? Secondly, is there any template best practices document? -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://intermountainhealthcare.org/> Management Board, Specifications Program Lead,

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Thomas Beale
lders at all) or DIPS (using questionable overloading of the semantics) is more right or wrong with their approaches on this matter... Birger -- Thomas Beale Principal, Ars Semantica <http://www.arssemantica.com> Consultant, ABD Project, Intermountain Healthcare <https://interm

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Thomas Beale
/08/2018 10:28, Karsten Hilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: Some of these Contsys definitions are problematic: ENCOUNTER But there is an encounter when the HcP interacts with the EHR without a Patient (Virtually) present. that would certainly

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Thomas Beale
And I meant to say: can you check if it has a PR, and if not, add one? In either case, you or Seref might add the text from his proposal as well. - thomas On 21/08/2018 16:25, Sebastian Iancu wrote: Hi Seref, Thomas, On the last SEC meeting, another proposed idea (besides the one from

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Thomas Beale
I had forgotten this, but I think it will turn out to be a syntax equivalent to Seref's proposal. It is probably the kind of syntax man people would like to use, so we should certainly consider it; it maybe that both mechanisms should be put in, and respective users can then argue over who

Re: AQL on specific list of compositions

2018-08-21 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Birger, Note that no openEHR RM types (COMPOSITION etc) are part of the AQL spec - they are just used in examples. AQL doesn't actually know anytthing about particular types. Seref's intention is that it stays this way, and his proposed function, or some other equivalent resolver mechanism

Re: Strange behavior in Template designer 2.8.94 Beta

2018-08-20 Thread Thomas Beale
that been changed? Last time I checked and asked Marand it was ADL 1.4 only. Or is it AOM 2.x but ADL 1.4? Regards, Pieter Bos From: openEHR-technical on behalf of Thomas Beale Reply-To: For openEHR technical discussions Date: Monday, 20 August 2018 at 13:04 To: "openehr-tech

Re: Strange behavior in Template designer 2.8.94 Beta

2018-08-20 Thread Thomas Beale
The new tool is AOM 2.x inside, but I have to admit I have not investigated how this particular problem is resolved in it. - thomas On 20/08/2018 11:42, Peter Gummer wrote: Hi Hildi, On 20 Aug 2018, at 19:13, Hildegard McNicoll > wrote: Incidentally, the new web

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