Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-31 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 30/10/14 12:25 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote: On 10/23/2014 04:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Permissions differences for glance image-create between Icehouse and Juno

2014-10-31 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 31/10/14 04:57 +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Hi Jay, Wanted to clarify a few things around this: 1. are you using --is_public or --is-public option? 2. are you using stable/juno branch or it is a rc(1/2/3) from ubuntu packages? After trying out: glance image-create --is-public=True

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-10-31 Thread Sam Stoelinga
Are there any resources available or proven examples on using external tools which call nova evacuate? For example use a monitoring tool to detect node failure and let the monitoring tool call evacuate on the instances which were running on the failed compute node. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance]

2014-10-31 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 28/10/14 22:18 +, Jesse Cook wrote: On 10/27/14, 6:08 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/2014 06:18 PM, Jesse Cook wrote: In the glance mini-summit there was a request for some documentation on the architecture ideas I was discussing relating to: 1) removing data

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-31 Thread Lisa
Dear Sylvain and BLAZAR team, I'd like to receive your feedback on our blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/fair-share-lease) and start a discussion in Paris the next week at the OpenStack Summit. Do you have a time slot for a very short meeting on this? Thanks in

Re: [openstack-dev] Mistral - Real Time integration

2014-10-31 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi Raanan, In addition I would say that what you described after “Secondly” is one of the most important reasons why Mistral exists. This is probably its strongest side (not sure what else can fit so well). Just in case, here are the screencasts that can highlight Mistral capabilities

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-31 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 31/10/2014 09:46, Lisa a écrit : Dear Sylvain and BLAZAR team, I'd like to receive your feedback on our blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/fair-share-lease) and start a discussion in Paris the next week at the OpenStack Summit. Do you have a time slot for a very

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Guest RPC API improvements. Messages, topics, queues, consumption.

2014-10-31 Thread Denis Makogon
Hello, Stackers/Trovers. I’d like to start discussion about how do we use guestagent API that will eventually be evaluated as a spec. For most of you who well-known with Trove’s codebase knows how do Trove acts when provisioning new instance. I’d like to point out next moments: 1. When

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Provider Router topology

2014-10-31 Thread Jaume Devesa
Hi all, in Midokura we are working on a blueprint to define a new kind of topology for floating ranges, as alternative to external network topology. It is based on the idea of a Provider Router that links directly with Tenant Routers using /30 networks. It aims to be more pure-floating, helping

[openstack-dev] [Autoscaling][HA][Murano] Use cases for Murano actions feature. Autoscaling, HA and operations.

2014-10-31 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, In the Juno release Murano team added a new feature - Actions. This feature allows to declare actions as specific application methods which should be executed when an action is triggered. When Murano deploys an application with actions new web hooks will be created and exposed by Murano API.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-10-31 Thread A, Keshava
Hi, Agents upgrade support will be common requirements which we needs to address on priority. Regards, Keshava -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:47 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack

2014-10-31 Thread Sullivan, Jon Paul
-Original Message- From: Clint Byrum [mailto:cl...@fewbar.com] Sent: 28 October 2014 18:34 To: openstack-dev Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tuskar][tripleo] Tuskar/TripleO on Devstack Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-10-28 11:13:22 -0700: On 10/28/2014 06:18 AM, Steven

Re: [openstack-dev] [Autoscaling][HA][Murano] Use cases for Murano actions feature. Autoscaling, HA and operations.

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 03:23:20AM -0700, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: Hi, In the Juno release Murano team added a new feature - Actions. This feature allows to declare actions as specific application methods which should be executed when an action is triggered. When Murano

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-tc] Topics for the Board/TC joint meeting in Paris

2014-10-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: This is already on the agenda proposed by the board (as well as a quick presentation on the need for structural reform in the ways we handle projects in OpenStack). Would it be possible for the slidedeck and a quick summary of that presentation to be posted to the os-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] Finalizing cross-project design summit track

2014-10-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/30/2014 12:12 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 10/30/2014 04:53 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/29/2014 06:46 PM, Rochelle Grober

[openstack-dev] [glance] Image properties for deleted images

2014-10-31 Thread George Shuklin
Hello. I found that glance do not provide any meta information for deleted images, but hide them somewhere inside. glance image-create - #1 glance image-update #1 --property foo=bar #1 now has foo=bar nova start ... #1 - instance use image with foo=bar glance image-delete #1 ... and now we

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Design Summit schedule

2014-10-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: We still expect a number of changes (TripleO session schedule is still tbd, we might drop the gate debugging cross-project workshop...). If anyone pushes a change to the live schedule at this point, it would be nice to post a corresponding public service announcement to

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Thierry Carrez
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Another option: 3) People consider the lower choices on their list to be equivalent. I personally tend to vote in tiers (these 3 are top choices, these 3 are secondary choices, these 6 are third choices) and I don’t differentiate individuals in the bottom tier

Re: [openstack-dev] Writing a cinder volume driver

2014-10-31 Thread Darshan Ghumare
Thank you so much Eduard :). On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Eduard Matei eduard.ma...@cloudfounders.com wrote: Hi Darshan, Having just finished writing a volume driver i can say you need a lot of patience. First, to quickly answer your questions: 1. Read ALL the drivers in the official

Re: [openstack-dev] Writing a cinder volume driver

2014-10-31 Thread Darshan Ghumare
Thank you so much Duncan. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: All excellent advice from Eduard. To confirm: - You will definitely need to write your driver in python. - Devstack is the recommended environment for development - Please look at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-31 Thread Lisa
Hi Sylvain, thanks for your answer. Actually we haven't yet developed that because we'd like to be sure that our proposal is fine with BLAZAR. We already implemented a pluggable advanced scheduler for Nova which addresses the issues we are experiencing with OpenStack in the Italian National

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/30/2014 09:15 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: I was thinking after reading all this; besides modifying the number of required patches, perhaps we could try a blind election; candidate names are removed so ballots have to be cast based on the merit of each candidate's responses to the questions

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/31/2014 08:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Another option: 3) People consider the lower choices on their list to be equivalent. I personally tend to vote in tiers (these 3 are top choices, these 3 are secondary choices, these 6 are third choices) and I don’t

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-31 Thread Nikolay Starodubtsev
Hi Lisa, Sylvain, I'll take a look at blueprint next week and will try to left some feedback about it. Stay tuned. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2014-10-31 16:14 GMT+04:00 Lisa lisa.zangra...@pd.infn.it: Hi Sylvain, thanks for your

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-31 Thread Erik Moe
I thought Monday network meeting agreed on that “VLAN aware VMs”, Trunk network + L2GW were different use cases. Still I get the feeling that the proposals are put up against each other. Here are some examples why bridging between Neutron internal networks using trunk network and L2GW IMO

[openstack-dev] [oslo.db] Marker based paging

2014-10-31 Thread Heald, Mike
Hi all, I'm implementing paging on storyboard, and I wanted to ask why we decided to use marker based paging. I have some opinions on this, but I want to keep my mouth shut until I find out what problem it was solving :) Thanks, Mike ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: As discussed during the neutron-drivers meeting this week [1], we've going to use one of the Neutron 40 minute design summit slots for lightning

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][TripleO] Clear all flows when ovs agent start? why and how avoid?

2014-10-31 Thread Ben Nemec
On 10/29/2014 10:17 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Hly henry4...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my iPad On 2014-10-29, at 下午8:01, Robert van Leeuwen robert.vanleeu...@spilgames.com wrote: I find our current design is remove all flows then add flow by entry, this

Re: [openstack-dev] Mistral - Real Time integration

2014-10-31 Thread Raanan Ikar
Thank you Dimitri and Renat for your kind and swift replies. This was very helpful at the least, it will certainly drive or reinforce an option I am likely to promote and consider taking for driving integration both inside and outside of OpenStack. I won't unfortunately be going to the OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-10-31 Thread Lisa
Hi Nikolay, many thanks. Cheers, Lisa On 31/10/2014 14:10, Nikolay Starodubtsev wrote: Hi Lisa, Sylvain, I'll take a look at blueprint next week and will try to left some feedback about it. Stay tuned. *__* Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/31/2014 08:29 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/30/2014 09:15 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: I was thinking after reading all this; besides modifying the number of required patches, perhaps we could try a blind election; candidate names are removed so ballots have to be cast based on the merit of

[openstack-dev] MOS Infra weekly report (29 Oct 2014 - 31 Oct 2014)

2014-10-31 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi colleagues, here you can find the weekly report for MOS Infra activity - https://mirantis.jira.com/wiki/display/MOSI/2014/10/31/MOSI+Weekly+Report%2C+Phase+%231%2C+29+Oct+2014+-+31+Oct+2014 Please, note that it includes the previous three days, previous reports could be found in the MOSI

Re: [openstack-dev] MOS Infra weekly report (29 Oct 2014 - 31 Oct 2014)

2014-10-31 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Heh, wrong mailing list :( On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi colleagues, here you can find the weekly report for MOS Infra activity -

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Matt Joyce
On one hand, I agree a member of the TC should be a very active member of the development community. Something I have not been, much to my shame. However, there are obviously some fundamental issues in how the TC has been governing OpenStack in the past few releases. Very serious issues in the

[openstack-dev] [api] API Working Group sessions

2014-10-31 Thread Everett Toews
The schedule for the Paris sessions has been finalized and the API Working Group has two design summit sessions and one follow up session on Thursday! Part 1 Tuesday November 4, 2014 11:15 - 11:55 Room: Manet http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/13fc460f359646dcd41d6a2d7ad0bec0 Part 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API Working Group sessions

2014-10-31 Thread Everett Toews
Link to the follow up session Thursday November 6, 2014 16:30 - 18:00 Room: Hyatt - Vendome room (Hyatt Hotel) http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/3f0a5f22f2d641ef69965373f3e23983 Everett On Oct 31, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: The schedule for the

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/31/2014 12:17 PM, Matt Joyce wrote: On one hand, I agree a member of the TC should be a very active member of the development community. Something I have not been, much to my shame. However, there are obviously some fundamental issues in how the TC has been governing OpenStack in the

[openstack-dev] [all] new meeting channel

2014-10-31 Thread Doug Wiegley
Hi all, In trying to find some alternate times for the Neutron LBaaS meeting, all of the slots that fall roughly in business-ish hours for the US/Europe are jam packed (at least on the days that aren’t risking long weekends.) I’d like to propose adding #openstack-meeting-4 to alleviate this.

[openstack-dev] [swift]Questions on concurrent operations on the same object

2014-10-31 Thread jordan pittier
Hi guys, We are currently benchmarking our Scality object server backend for Swift. We basically created a new DiskFile class that is used in a new ObjectController that inherits from the native server.ObjectController. It's pretty similar to how Ceph can be used as a backend for Swift

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Joyce's message of 2014-10-31 09:17:23 -0700: On one hand, I agree a member of the TC should be a very active member of the development community. Something I have not been, much to my shame. However, there are obviously some fundamental issues in how the TC has been

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] new meeting channel

2014-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Doug Wiegley do...@a10networks.com wrote: Hi all, In trying to find some alternate times for the Neutron LBaaS meeting, all of the slots that fall roughly in business-ish hours for the US/Europe are jam packed (at least on the days that aren’t risking long

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Guest RPC API improvements. Messages, topics, queues, consumption.

2014-10-31 Thread Tim Simpson
Hi Denis, It seems like the issue you're trying to solve is that these 'prepare' messages can't be consumed by the guest. So, if the guest never actually comes online and therefore can't consume the prepare call, then you'll be left with the message in the queue forever. If you use a ping-pong

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/31/2014 12:17 PM, Matt Joyce wrote: On one hand, I agree a member of the TC should be a very active member of the development community. Something I have not been, much to my shame. However, there are obviously

[openstack-dev] What's Up Doc? Oct 31 2014 [trove] [sahara]

2014-10-31 Thread Anne Gentle
For those of you with this crazy creepy candy holiday, happy Halloween to you! Here's a rundown of this week in docs. The install guide has been tested for the main core projects on RHEL and Ubuntu -- trove and sahara, we need more testing for the install guide on your projects specifically. See

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance]

2014-10-31 Thread Jesse Cook
On 10/31/14, 3:21 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 28/10/14 22:18 +, Jesse Cook wrote: On 10/27/14, 6:08 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/27/2014 06:18 PM, Jesse Cook wrote: In the glance mini-summit there was a request for some documentation on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Permissions differences for glance image-create between Icehouse and Juno

2014-10-31 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Did you test this with an admin user? Yes, did test it with an admin user. may be caused by an upgrade from Icehouse - Juno. Possibly, good point. Thanks, -Nikhil From: Flavio Percoco [fla...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:03 AM To:

[openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] Working Group Session

2014-10-31 Thread Steve Gordon
Hi all, I wanted to highlight that as mentioned in the OpenStack NFV subteam meeting yesterday [1] there is a Ops Summit session aiming to bring together those interested in the use of OpenStack to provide the infrastructure for communication services. This includes, but is not limited to: -

[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Cookie collision between Horizon Stacktach

2014-10-31 Thread Aaron Sahlin
I was posed this question, but am not familiar with Horizon or StackTach cookie management. Anyone know what the issue might be? Issue: Logging into one site logs you out of the other. (horizon/stacktach) First I open horizon and notice there are two cookies: csrftoken (horizon) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Cookie collision between Horizon Stacktach

2014-10-31 Thread Gabriel Hurley
I have no familiarity with stacktach, but it sounds like it's trampling data on the sessionid cookie (even if it's also setting a beaker.session.stacktach cookie). Your options include running the two at different domains/subdomains (and specifying the subdomain as the cookie domain; that

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Wells
Maruti's talk is, in fact, so interesting that we should probably get together and talk about this earlier in the week. I very much want to see virtual-physical programmatic bridging, and I know Kevin Benton is also interested. Arguably the MPLS VPN stuff also is similar in scope. Can I propose

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-31 Thread Veiga, Anthony
I’ll +1 this. I think this is going to be relevant to quite a few things, including NFV and routing (if you want to establish an L2 neighbor for ISIS…). This seems like a useful feature. -Anthony Maruti's talk is, in fact, so interesting that we should probably get together and talk about

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] pci pass through turing complete config options?

2014-10-31 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
On 10/28/14, 11:01 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:18:37AM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 10/28/2014 07:44 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: One option would be a more CSV like syntax eg pci_passthrough_whitelist =

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Poll for change in weekly meeting time.

2014-10-31 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi all, It was noticed in the past few meetings that the participation in the alternating time-slot of Thursday at 20 UTC (or called as later time slot) was low. With the growing interest in Glance of developers from eastern latitudes and their involvement in meetings, please find this email

[openstack-dev] [api] APIImpact flag for specs

2014-10-31 Thread Everett Toews
Hi All, Chris Yeoh started the use of an APIImpact flag in commit messages for specs in Nova. It adds a requirement for an APIImpact flag in the commit message for a proposed spec if it proposes changes to the REST API. This will make it much easier for people such as the API Working Group who

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Proposal to add reviewers requirement to the glance-specs.

2014-10-31 Thread Nikhil Komawar
FYI, this has been made effective as of earlier this week. Please be on the look out for any mysteriously failing tests in your specs... Thanks, -Nikhil From: Nikhil Komawar [nikhil.koma...@rackspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 PM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-31 Thread Mohammad Hanif
Hi Ian, all, I would very much like that. Please let me know what time works for you. I will be in Paris all 5 days. Thanks, Hanif. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: Maruti's talk is, in fact, so interesting that we should probably

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Lightning talks during the Design Summit!

2014-10-31 Thread Mohammad Hanif
Hi Kyle, Thanks a lot for organizing this. I heard from Tom Nadeau that you might not be coming to Paris. Hope all is well. Hanif. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Guest RPC API improvements. Messages, topics, queues, consumption.

2014-10-31 Thread Denis Makogon
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Tim Simpson tim.simp...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi Denis, It seems like the issue you're trying to solve is that these 'prepare' messages can't be consumed by the guest. Not only 'prepare' call. I want to point out that each RPC API call that uses RPC 'cast'

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Poll for change in weekly meeting time.

2014-10-31 Thread Louis Taylor
Thanks for bringing this up, Nikhil. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Here's a poll [0] to find what time-slots work best for everyone as well as for the interest to remove the alternating time-slot aspect in the schedule. Could this poll be expanded with a wider range of times? I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Wells
On 31 October 2014 06:29, Erik Moe erik@ericsson.com wrote: I thought Monday network meeting agreed on that “VLAN aware VMs”, Trunk network + L2GW were different use cases. Still I get the feeling that the proposals are put up against each other. I think we agreed they were

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Wells
Go read about HSRP and VRRP. What you propose is akin to turning off one physical switch port and turning on another when you want to switch from an active physical server to a standby, and this is not how it's done in practice; instead, you connect the two VMs to the same network and let them

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nfv] VM-based VLAN trunking blueprints

2014-10-31 Thread Ian Wells
To address a point or two that Armando has raised here that weren't covered in my other mail: On 28 October 2014 11:00, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: - Core Neutron changes: what needs to happen to the core of Neutron, if anything, so that we can implement this NFV-enabling constructs

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-10-31 13:50:25 +1300 (+1300), Robert Collins wrote: Actually no - because of pip install, we need to keep support up until we can tell folk we don't support them anymore, which is after the last point release, not at it. If we drop support earlier, we can't release the support dropping

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-10-31 09:24:31 +1000 (+1000), Angus Salkeld wrote: +1 to this, with a term limit. Notable that the Debian TC has been discussing term limits for months now, and since DebConf they seem to have gotten much closer to a concrete proposal[1] in the last week or so. Could be worth watching

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Poll for change in weekly meeting time.

2014-10-31 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thanks for voting Louis! Finding a spot in a channel is always tricky. If we get early votes, we can determine our position for this [0] proposal. [0] http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-10/msg02119.html -Nikhil From: Louis Taylor