Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/07/2014 09:07 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I think the difference is slot selection would just be Nova drivers. I think there is an assumption in the old system that everyone in Nova core wants to prioritize the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Still
It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible solution here is to do the following: - revert the libvirt version_cap flag - instead implement a third

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-10 Thread Michael Still
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-08-08 09:06:29 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] We've seen several times that building and maintaining 3rd party CI is a *lot* of work. Building and maintaining *any* CI is a *lot* of work, not the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-10 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Michael Still wrote: [...] I think an implied side effect of the runway system is that nova-drivers would -2 blueprint reviews which were not occupying a slot. (If we start doing more -2's I think we will need

[openstack-dev] [nova] 9 days until feature proposal freeze

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Hi, this is just a friendly reminder that we are now 9 days away from feature proposal freeze for nova. If you think your blueprint isn't going to make it in time, then now would be a good time to let me know so that we can defer it until Kilo. That will free up reviewer time for other

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue? Michael On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the

[openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Nova expects a minimum level of sustained code reviews from cores. In the past this has been generally held to be in the order of two

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Actually, thinking on this more -- the lack of consensus is on the attempt to re-add the patch, so I guess we'd handle that just like we do for a contentious patch now. Michael On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: It seems like this is exactly what the slots give us, though. The core review team picks a number of slots indicating how much work they think they can actually do (less than the available number of blueprints), and then

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f meetings sooo many times a year. OpenStack is very much the outlier here among open source projects - the vast majority of projects get along very

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:09 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Expecting cores to be at these sorts of things seems pretty reasonable to me, given the usefulness (and gravity) of the discussions we've been having so far. Companies with more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
So, there's been a lot of email in the last few days and I feel I am not keeping up. Sylvain, can you summarise for me what the plan is here? Can we roll forward or do we need to revert? Time is running out for Juno. Thanks, Michael On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Sylvain Bauza

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the mid-cycle meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to). That said,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Review priorities as we approach juno-3

2014-08-14 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: == Move Virt Drivers to use Objects (Juno Work) == I couldn't actually find any code out for review for this one apart from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94477/, is there more out there? This was an umbrella one to cover

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Review priorities as we approach juno-3

2014-08-14 Thread Michael Still
I have also been reminded that http://54.201.139.117/nova-bugs.html tracks bugs with outstanding code reviews (click on ready for review). There are 179 at the moment, so it sure would be cool to land some bug fixes. Thanks, Michael On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Michael Still mi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Review priorities as we approach juno-3

2014-08-15 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 06:53:41AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:37 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: == Move Virt Drivers to use Objects (Juno Work) == I couldn't actually find any

Re: [openstack-dev] Enabling silent Docker tests for Nova?

2014-08-15 Thread Michael Still
Agreed. I think this should be in unless infra vetos it for load reasons. Michael On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: Feature freeze is only a few weeks away (Sept 4). How about we just leave it in experimental until after that big push? That seems pretty

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] LOG.warning/LOG.warn

2014-08-17 Thread Michael Still
My recollection is that this was a request from the oslo team, but it was so long ago that I don't recall the details. I think the change is low value, so should only be done when someone is changing the logging in a file already (the log hinting for example). Michael On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 9 days until feature proposal freeze

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Still
. Thanks, Michael On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi, this is just a friendly reminder that we are now 9 days away from feature proposal freeze for nova. If you think your blueprint isn't going to make it in time, then now would be a good time to let me know

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from nova-network to Neutron for large production clouds

2014-08-25 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: Michael has been posting very informative blogs on the summary of the mid-cycle meetups for Nova. The one on the Nova Network to Neutron migration was of particular interest to me as it raises a number of potential impacts for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from nova-network to Neutron for large production clouds

2014-08-26 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: From: Michael Still [mailto:mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: 25 August 2014 23:38 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from nova-network

[openstack-dev] [nova] Brainstorming summit sessions

2014-08-27 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I'd like to start the summit planning process for Paris by asking for people to brain storm a list of topics we might want to cover. We can then prioritize that list and make sure that we address the most important issues. This is a process that worked well for us at the mid-cycle meetup. To

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] Specs for K release

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Still
For nova we haven't gotten around to doing this, but it shouldn't be a big deal. I'll add it to the agenda for today's meeting. Michael On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Andreas Scheuring scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi, is it already possible to submit specs (nova neutron) for the K

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] Specs for K release

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:51:32AM +, Alan Kavanagh wrote: How to do we handle specs that have slipped through the cracks and did not make it for Juno? Rebase the proposal so it is under the 'kilo' directory

Re: [openstack-dev] [vmware][nova] Refactor reseries rebased

2014-09-02 Thread Michael Still
By which John means generally trying to avoid filling. Michael On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:52 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 2 September 2014 15:27, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: We've been playing a game recently between oslo.vmware and the refactor series where a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Michael will be out of contact tonight

2014-09-02 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I'll be on a long haul flight tonight from about 21:00 UTC. So... Once feature freeze happens I'm not ignoring any freeze exceptions, it will just take me a little while to get to them. Michael -- Rackspace Australia ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-02 Thread Michael Still
Hi. We're soon to hit feature freeze, as discussed in Thierry's recent email. I'd like to outline the process for requesting a freeze exception: * your code must already be up for review * your blueprint must have an approved spec * you need three (3) sponsoring cores for an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-02 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 08:16 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. We're soon to hit feature freeze, as discussed in Thierry's recent email. I'd like to outline the process for requesting a freeze exception: * your code must

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [feature freeze exception] Move to oslo.db

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
I'm good with this one too, so that makes three if Joe is ok with this. @Josh -- can you please take a look at the TH failures? Thanks, Michael On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 9/3/2014 5:08 PM, Andrey Kurilin wrote: Hi All! I'd like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] Feature freeze exception for config-drive-image-property

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
I'll be the third core here. Approved. @John: can you please remove your -2 from this one? Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:35 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:07 PM, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Hi, I'd like to ask for a feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-start-lxc-from-block-devices

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
These look good to me, I will be your third core. The middle one has some comments from Jay, but it didn't look like a big deal Approved. @John: can you please remove your -2's on 104048, 74537, and 99974? Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Brainstorming summit sessions

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com wrote: Did you have a specific goal/date in mind for when you might start to finalize this list? I am guessing at least after the dust settles on J-3 and possibly even the first RCs but just curious. Good question. Looking at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [feature freeze exception] Move to oslo.db

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
Approved. Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I'm good with this one too, so that makes three if Joe is ok with this. I am ok with this, I hope the move to oslo.db

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: [Heavy snipping because of length] The radical (?) solution to the nova core team bottleneck is thus to follow this lead and split the nova virt drivers out into separate projects and delegate their maintainence to

Re: [openstack-dev] [vmware][nova][FFE] vmware-spawn-refactor

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
So, that's your three. This exception is approved. Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:46 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 02:09:26PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: I'd like to request a FFE for the remaining

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE request v2-on-v3-api

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
Approved. Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi ken1ohmi...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-04 20:34 GMT+09:00 Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com: Hi, I'd like to request a FFE for 4 changesets from the v2-on-v3-api blueprint: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113814/

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE request serial-ports

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Still
Approved. Michael On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/04/2014 02:42 PM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: Hello, I would like to request a FFE for 4 changesets to complete the blueprint serial-ports. Topic on gerrit:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [FFE] Final Libvirt User Namespaces Patch

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
Approved. Michael On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Matt Dietz matt.di...@rackspace.com wrote: Thirding sponsorship. I didn¹t review as much as the other two, but I helped merge a couple of the patches. Agreed with Jay otherwise; we¹re almost there, let¹s finish it. -Original

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature Freeze exception for juno-slaveification

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
Approved. Michael On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: I am also happy to sponsor it. I've already reviewed the patches... On 09/05/2014 04:34 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com

[openstack-dev] [Nova] List of granted FFEs

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I've built this handy dandy list of granted FFEs, because searching email to find out what is approved is horrible. It would be good if people with approved FFEs could check their thing is listed here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-nova-approved-ffes Michael -- Rackspace

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature freeze exception for virt-driver-numa-placement

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
For better or for worse we have already merged about half of the patches for this series, so I think stopping now because of concerns about CI is pretty arbitrary. I do think Sean's point about scheduler tests outside of tempest is valid though and I'd like to see it reflected in the review

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE server-group-quotas

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
So, this one is looking for one more core. Any takers? Michael On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: The corresponding Tempest change is also ready to roll (thanks to Ken'inci): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112474/1 so its kind of just a question of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FFE server-group-quotas

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
On 09/05/2014 06:32 PM, Michael Still wrote: So, this one is looking for one more core. Any takers? Michael On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: The corresponding Tempest change is also ready to roll (thanks to Ken'inci): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112474

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [feature freeze exception] FFE for libvirt-disk-discard-option

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Still
I will be the third here. Approved and added to the etherpad of doom. Michael On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/05/2014 07:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:28:55AM +, Bohai (ricky) wrote: Hi, I'd like to ask for a feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] List of granted FFEs

2014-09-06 Thread Michael Still
That's something I'll work on today. Michael On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Michael Still wrote: I've built this handy dandy list of granted FFEs, because searching email to find out what is approved is horrible. It would be good if people

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] List of granted FFEs

2014-09-06 Thread Michael Still
storage encryption is not on the list of granted FFEs but I sent an email to John Garbutt yesterday listing the 3 core sponsors for the FFE. Why was the FFE denied? Dan From: Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 5:23 PM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] List of granted FFEs

2014-09-07 Thread Michael Still
outlining the FFE process was not specific about how sponsors had to register their support, just that there should be 3 core sponsors. Dan From: Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2014 4:50 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [FFE] alternative request for v2-on-v3-api

2014-09-07 Thread Michael Still
I didn't put two and two together and come up with three cores here. Sorry for that. This FFE is approved. Michael On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/04/2014 07:54 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:08:09 +0900 Ken'ichi Ohmichi

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Still
I haven't had a chance to read other people's posts, so I am sure there is duplication here. What would I have all of OpenStack working on if I was ruler of the universe? Let's see... 1. Fixing our flakey gate: we're all annoyed by our code failing tests with transient errors, but most people

[openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Still
Hi. One of the last things blocking Ironic from graduating is deciding whether or not we need a Nova API proxy for the old baremetal extension to new fangled Ironic API. The TC has asked that we discuss whether we think this functionality is actually necessary. It should be noted that we're

Re: [openstack-dev] On an API proxy from baremetal to ironic

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: With my admittedly limited knowledge of the whole Ironic process, the question seems to me to be: If we don't implement a proxy, which people are going to have a serious problem? Do we have an data on which users/operators

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Current state of play for nova FFEs

2014-09-09 Thread Michael Still
Hi. So feature freeze seems to be going quite well to me. We've already landed 10 things which had requested exceptions. However, there are still six things in flight, so I would like to remind people to keep focussing on those please. The deadline for these patches to be approved is Friday

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-10 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're talking about a release worth of work to get that right.

[openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-13 Thread Michael Still
Just an observation from the last week or so... The biggest problem nova faces at the moment isn't code review latency. Our biggest problem is failing to fix our bugs so that the gate is reliable. The number of rechecks we've done in the last week to try and land code is truly startling. I know

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: Unfortunately the reliability of the gate systems has the highest negative impact on productivity right at the point in the dev cycle where we need it to have the least impact too. Agreed. However, my instinct is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-15 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 05:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:07:13AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Just an observation from the last week or so... The biggest problem nova faces at the moment isn't code

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Still
for a bug day if we ran one? Michael On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:30:26AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 05:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Its time to start identifying release critical bugs

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Is time to start identifying (and working on) release critical bugs in nova before we ship RC1. My initial position is that any critical bug is release critical. There are currently critical bugs not targeted to rc1, but that should change in the next day or so. If we're not interested in

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
I would like to do a python-novaclient release, but this requirements commit hasn't yet turned into a requirements proposal for novaclient (that I can find). Can someone poke that for me? Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: All of the final

[openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
I'd like another term as Compute PTL, if you'll have me. We live in interesting times. OpenStack has clearly gained a large amount of mind share in the open cloud marketplace, with Nova being a very commonly deployed component. Yet, we don't have a fantastic container solution, which is our

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 weeks ago

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
Thanks. That's now approved and we're waiting for the merge. Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Andrey Kurilin akuri...@mirantis.com wrote: Here you are!:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122667 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I would like

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-20 Thread Michael Still
And the python-novaclient release has now been done. Thanks, Michael On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Thanks. That's now approved and we're waiting for the merge. Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Andrey Kurilin akuri...@mirantis.com wrote

[openstack-dev] Reverting recent refactorings of RBD support for config drives

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
Hi. Today I encountered bug 1369627 [1] as I trolled the status of release critical bugs, which appears to be fall out from the decision to implement adding support for config drives stored in RBD. While I have no problem with that being at thing we do, I'm concerned by the way it was implemented

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd do that thing. Additionally, this came to my attention because

Re: [openstack-dev] Reverting recent refactorings of RBD support for config drives

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Still
LVM support, and leaves an unused file behind in the instance directory. Other than that, it's acceptable for a late-stage change, IMO. Best Regards, Solly - Original Message - From: Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd do that thing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting

Re: [openstack-dev] Adding DB migration items to the common review checklist

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Still
I don't have a problem with any of these requirements, but I'd like to explore automating the checks. Would it be possible to write a unit test that verified this for all migrations? Then we don't need to add it to the checklist... Michael On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Matt Riedemann

Re: [openstack-dev] additional core review criteria - recent Jenkins pass - otherwise you break the gates

2013-12-22 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Thu, Dec 19 2013, Sean Dague wrote: So please look for recent passes before +Aing anything. What about making that automatic? Same question for patchset that stays that for a month, finally got approved and fails

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2013-12-31 Thread Michael Still
Hi. So while turbo hipster is new, I've been reading every failure message it produces to make sure its not too badly wrong. There were four failures posted last night while I slept: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64521 This one is a TH bug. We shouldn't be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Still
mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 12/31/2013 3:58 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. So while turbo hipster is new, I've been reading every failure message it produces to make sure its not too badly wrong. There were four failures posted last night while I slept: https://review.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:24 AM, James E. Blair jebl...@openstack.org wrote: However, there are _a lot_ of third-party test systems coming on-line, and I'm not sure that expanding the recheck language to support ever more complexity is a good idea. I can see how being able to say recheck foo

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote: I'd love to attend this chat, if possible. A number of the coming on-line third-party test systems are motivated by neutron plugins. I'd get a lot from hearing this discussion. I've created a BoF on Monday night straight

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:24 AM, James E. Blair jebl...@openstack.org wrote: However, there are _a lot_ of third-party test systems coming on-line, and I'm not sure that expanding the recheck language to support ever more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bogus -1 scores from turbo hipster

2014-01-07 Thread Michael Still
apologise for this mis-vote. Michael On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 12/30/2013 6:21 AM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. The purpose of this email to is apologise for some incorrect -1 review scores which turbo hipster sent out today. I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][turbo hipster] unable to rebase

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Still
Hi! Sorry the slow response. I've been at a conference this week, so I'm a bit behind. I apologise for that. The root cause here is a failure to understand the relatively undocumented git behaviour of zuul. We think we've now got a fix, and will deploy it soon. Michael On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bogus -1 scores from turbo hipster

2014-01-11 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Another question. This patch [1] failed turbo-hipster after it was approved but I don't know if that's a gating or just voting job, i.e. should someone do 'reverify migrations' on that patch or just let it sit

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bogus -1 scores from turbo hipster

2014-01-11 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: [snip] So instead of trying to fix the individual runs, because t-h runs pretty fast, can you just fix it with bulk. It seems like the issue in a migration taking a long time isn't a race in OpenStack, it's completely

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bogus -1 scores from turbo hipster

2014-01-11 Thread Michael Still
Please note that turbo-hipster currently has -1 voting disabled while we work through these issues. +1 voting is still enabled though. Michael On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: [snip] So

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
You mention some concerns with processutils on that wiki page that I was unaware of. I can't find bugs for them either. Do you have any pointers to what is being referred to there? Thanks, Michael On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: I've spent some

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: The notes are from the summit discussion, and I didn't open the bugs. I'll do that this week. Should I assign them to you? If you assign them to me I will take a look at them. Michael -- Rackspace Australia

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] dependency analysis for graduating more oslo libraries

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: It would be nice to get lockutils graduated to solve some of the issues mentioned in the oslo.db section, but I believe we do have an outstanding question regarding its behavior without lock_path being set. I think Clint

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Third party testing

2014-01-15 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:28 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: Hey Everyone, A while back I started talking about this idea of requiring Cinder driver contributors to run a super simple cert script (some info here: [1]). Since then I've been playing with introduction of a

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] Third party testing

2014-01-15 Thread Michael Still
John -- I agree with you entirely here. My concern is more that I think the CI tests need to run more frequently than weekly. Michael On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu

Re: [openstack-dev] MariaDB support

2014-01-27 Thread Michael Still
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: We are reviewing options between MySQL and MariaDB. RHEL 7 beta seems to have MariaDB as the default MySQL-like DB. Can someone summarise the status of the OpenStack in terms of -What MySQL-flavor is/are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] nova-network in Icehouse and beyond

2014-01-29 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: So if nova-network doesn't go away this has implications for the V3 API as it currently doesn't support nova-network. I'm not sure that we have time to add support for it in icehouse now, but if nova-network is not

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V Nova CI Infrastructure

2014-02-01 Thread Michael Still
I saw another case of the build succeeded message for a failure just now... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59101/ has a rebase failure but was marked as successful. Is this another case of hyper-v not being voting and therefore being a bit confusing? The text of the comment clearly indicates

Re: [openstack-dev] Hyper-V Nova CI Infrastructure

2014-02-02 Thread Michael Still
: Hi Michael, On 02 Feb 2014, at 06:19 , Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I saw another case of the build succeeded message for a failure just now... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59101/ has a rebase failure but was marked as successful. Is this another case of hyper-v not being

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Making periodic tasks config consistent.

2014-02-06 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Matthew Gilliard matthew.gilli...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone. wrt these bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1276203 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1272830 - I'd just like to make sure that the approach I'm planning makes sense. To

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][ml2] Maintaining support for the Tail-f NCS mech driver in Icehouse

2014-02-09 Thread Michael Still
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:10 AM, CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote: Kyle Mestery wrote: So, in general I don't think this will fly because it's my understanding the OpenStack servers only test fully open source code. Allowing a third party vendor system to run on the OpenStack servers as part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] Goal setting // progress towards integration

2014-02-12 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Additionally, the TC has laid out some (draft) graduation requirements [2] for projects that duplicate functionality in a pre-existing project -- that means us, since we're supplanting the old Nova

[openstack-dev] [Nova] libvirt doesn't migrate cdrom devices?

2014-02-17 Thread Michael Still
Hi. For the last day or so I've been chasing https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1246201, and I think I've found the problem... libvirt doesn't migrate devices of type cdrom, even if they're virtual. If I change the type of the config drive to disk, then block migration works just fine. Does

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] libvirt doesn't migrate cdrom devices?

2014-02-18 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: So I'd saying changing it to 'disk' is out of the question unless we unconditionally use vfat as the filesystem instead of iso9660. So, at the moment we conflate a flag about format (iso9660 or vfat) with a flag

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] libvirt doesn't migrate cdrom devices?

2014-02-18 Thread Michael Still
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 03:08:59AM -0700, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:43 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: So I'd saying changing it to 'disk' is out of the question unless we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] why force_config_drive is a per comptue node config

2014-02-27 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:34 AM, yunhong jiang yunhong.ji...@linux.intel.com wrote: Greeting, I have some questions on the force_config_drive configuration options and hope get some hints. a) Why do we want this? Per my understanding, if the user want to use the config drive,

Re: [openstack-dev] All Hyper-V CI jobs fail to start due to non portable signal handling in Nova guru-meditation report

2014-03-01 Thread Michael Still
I think we should also acknowledge that part of the problem here is that whilst the Hyper-V CI ran on this patch (and failed), its not very obvious when you look at gerrit. I would say the solution to that is to turn voting on, but the Hyper-V CI fail rate is about twice that of Jenkins at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Michael Still
I think its also pretty unfair on the people who put a lot of work into the v3 API. We're seriously going to delete their code after they put a year into it? To me OpenStack isn't just the users, its also the development community. I think we do measurable harm to that development community by

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